opticalmace
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I would go for a single 970 over 670 SLI.
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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 2. Read OP, your 2500K will run Witcher 3. MX100s! 970!
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I would go for a single 970 over 670 SLI.
Its here ;p
I purchased my PC in July 2008, so this is quite the upgrade
i7-4790K
GIGABYTE Z97X-GAMING 7
GIGABYTE GTX 970 G1
Kingston HyperX FURY 4x4GB DDR 3 1600MHz
Patriot BLAZER SSD 240GB
Western Digital 2TB
I was going to make a new post, but I'll just quote it since its on the same page
Some advice needed guys!
I got my new parts today, and I wanted to take it the store so they can put it together for me, but it will cost me at least 65$ since I have no car and will need to take a taxi there and back as well
I need to take out everything expect fans and the PSU out of my case, and remove one hard drive cage so the GPU will fit in
Don't think putting everything together in there will be an issue, but the question is if there's anything else that I need to do? like other than putting the parts in place? adjust something on one of the parts? do something software wise?
Also using an SSD for the first time, is there anything I need to know about using it? I'm going to install Windows on the SSD and possibly some games, but not all
I appreciate you coming back to us about your RMA. I like to hear follow up stories.
You've got a better card back. It's a bit faster (not by that much though) but you're getting an extra gig of vram, wider memory bus and a better cooler.
Well worth the $25 imo. Plus at least now too you've a working card should you ever want to sell and upgrade.
AstuteClass
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LOL! Thanks! GAF really does have threads devoted to everything!
ColonelSkills
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Hey guys, quick question regarding a usage case and appropriate requirements, particularly because I've never built for this scenario before.
I have a strong primary PC. I want to build a mini ITX support machine to stick in the living room and hook up to my television.
Most use cases for this are standard HTPC things, light RetroArch, BluRay playback, streaming content from my server, etc.
But I want to accomplish two things with this that are slightly different from standard.
- I want to use the machine to stream via Steam In Home Streaming from my primary PC.
- I want to capture content from my consoles (also hooked up in the living room) for both recording and streaming to twitch/hitbox. Preferablly at 1080p60, so that rules out some of the USB options.
Now, the capture device and so on along with the mini ITX requirement means that'll eat my PCI-E slot and I'll be without a video card.
My question is if something like an i3 4130 with onboard video would be able to handle the streaming and capturing, or am I better off going with something like an i5 and a 750ti and then using a USB solution for the capture device?
I have a strong primary PC. I want to build a mini ITX support machine to stick in the living room and hook up to my television.
Most use cases for this are standard HTPC things, light RetroArch, BluRay playback, streaming content from my server, etc.
But I want to accomplish two things with this that are slightly different from standard.
- I want to use the machine to stream via Steam In Home Streaming from my primary PC.
- I want to capture content from my consoles (also hooked up in the living room) for both recording and streaming to twitch/hitbox. Preferablly at 1080p60, so that rules out some of the USB options.
Now, the capture device and so on along with the mini ITX requirement means that'll eat my PCI-E slot and I'll be without a video card.
My question is if something like an i3 4130 with onboard video would be able to handle the streaming and capturing, or am I better off going with something like an i5 and a 750ti and then using a USB solution for the capture device?
If card's good that sounds like a very good deal for you.
atomic moth
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Hi guys,
I'm looking at slightly upgrading my i3 / and 7750 machine by adding:
I5-4690k
R9 280 3gb
I've got 650 watt power, 8gb ram of some ddr3 sort, and a h61m motherboard. The parts picker said that mobo will work if I don't overclock, and I don't plan on it.
For mostly gaming at 60fps and 1080p, should I be looking beyond this price point? I would be hoping to play GTA5 on high settings in January.
I'm looking at slightly upgrading my i3 / and 7750 machine by adding:
I5-4690k
R9 280 3gb
I've got 650 watt power, 8gb ram of some ddr3 sort, and a h61m motherboard. The parts picker said that mobo will work if I don't overclock, and I don't plan on it.
For mostly gaming at 60fps and 1080p, should I be looking beyond this price point? I would be hoping to play GTA5 on high settings in January.
Torhthelm Tídwald
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Thank you. I don't care how the ram looks, but I switched for better air flow. My Seagate HD has given me no trouble at all, but my newer WD has acting up over the summer, so that's why I went with Seagate. It was a green though, so that might be it. I have heard that it's good to buy hard drives locally since they get dropped in shipping and this might damage them. Is this true?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zd96yc
CPU Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor
Motherboard ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Memory G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Case Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)
I've placed an order for everything but the hard drive and the OS, but I can still change it if anyone has any suggestions.
Would be a solid upgrade, for the right price. No idea how it'll play GTA5, though. I have a feeling it'll be pretty CPU limited, so picking up a Z97 mobo and overclocking would be a good choice, but thats obviously another ~$120 or so.
atomic moth
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Thanks. The two parts alone are looking to be about $400 aka the price of a ps4. I'd rather play in 60fps with lower settings than 30fps though.
And a reminder that there is cashback going on:-
https://toptechcashback.com/uk/en/pages/cashback/qualifying
This is the best combo I could find, a sweet £40 cashback.
MSI Z97 Gaming 5 £106.56
Intel Core i5 i5-4690K £167.50
£234 after cashback.
I wish somewhere in London (Uk) build be as good a rigI have no clue/time.
Not sure if I want a monster rig or small form factor...
Recommendations for both please that come prebuilt.
Budget: £700
Look above.
Exploratory
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Is black Friday a good time to build a gaming PC? Considering doing that instead of buying an Xbox. Are sales cray good or is it better to buy throughout the year?
i did it around black friday last year, i actually finished my build about a week before, and there were no better deals come black friday. Right now you might as well wait six days to see if great deals pop up, but if you see a deal now, i'd grab it.
The Lamonster
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ha, I made that comfy chairs thread.
I just assembled my Bekant (corner-right). It's pretty amazing. PM me if you have any questions about it.
I considered suggesting that, but that might limit what size video card he can buy in the future, and decent mATX cases seem to cost more than the 200R.
Fair enough, but then why not go with a ATX board? If you don't gain anything in terms of form factor, are there any other advantages to choosing a mATX board?
He seems to be really wanting to fit it within the budget without going over. I recommended ATX motherboards for him and mentioned that the mATX versions were slightly cheaper but had most if not all of the same features and just less expandability.
csquared587
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Well guys, my PC won't boot and I think it is power supply failure. I unplugged it to move rooms, and that was the last time it powered on for me. My ASUS 970 blinks white when the power cable it in, but nothing gets power or boots up, not even the power supply fans.
Could this be the motherboard as well? if so, do you guys think it's safe just just take the plunge towards a 4790k and new motherboard, or is there something new that will prove to be a significant leap up from it? I'm not quite ready to abandon my i5 2500k build, but if the motherboard is busted i will.
Could this be the motherboard as well? if so, do you guys think it's safe just just take the plunge towards a 4790k and new motherboard, or is there something new that will prove to be a significant leap up from it? I'm not quite ready to abandon my i5 2500k build, but if the motherboard is busted i will.
Your 2500k is still a great processor. Still counts for mid to high end gaming these days, but a i7 4790 would give you a bit of a boost in some areas.
It's hard to say if it's the motherboard or PSU. Try out this flow chart to eliminate anything you might have missed or overlooked. Did you just move the computer or did you disassemble and reassemble it? Try another wall socket?
It sounds like a stupid question, but does it work if you plug it back into the wall socket in the old room?
Felix Lighter
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I was hoping that Linus's Haswell E Overclock video would give me some possible insight on how to get more out of my CPU but it confirmed that I did pretty much everything I could and my CPU is still a turd.
I asked a question in this vein the other day, but I've just upgraded to two 970s, with the plan of reaping the sweet, sweet benefits of 1440p.
Looking for opinions: should I just latch onto G-sync and bite the bullet on the ROG Swift, or are there any other models on the way? The Swift has all of the features I want... but man, it's hideous. I can't stand PC parts that look like they're from Tron.
Looking for opinions: should I just latch onto G-sync and bite the bullet on the ROG Swift, or are there any other models on the way? The Swift has all of the features I want... but man, it's hideous. I can't stand PC parts that look like they're from Tron.
csquared587
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Yea, I really want to hold on CPU upgrades for awhile, but I'll make the jump if it's a motherboard failure I think. I'm going to go through that flow chart when I get some time later, thanks.
I just moved my computer, no disassembly at all. I tried different wall sockets and power cables, same results. I started having usb issues yesterday before this happened. If I plugged in more than around 3 usb devices I'd get errors and even got a windows message saying USB power surge, not enough power. Other than that, PC has been working well.
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The USB ports mentioned are from the motherboard, not the case USB ports.
In that case, it's almost certainly either the PSU or motherboard. Any other issues with the motherboard, like BSODs? I forgot to mention, any status LEDs on the motherboard, and what color and status (blinking or solid red/green, etc)
csquared587
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I have not had any bsod issues at all. My moyherboard has a reset button and power button that lights up red, but nothing lights up at all besides the little white power indicator on my gpu.
Just installed a Noctua NF-A14 Industrial 2000rpm fan as my rear exhaust fan... and by golly miss Molly this thing moves air. Super quiet below 1200rpm as well. Most of the sound comes from the air/suction. It actually makes less noise when the side panel is off.
Build quality is fantastic. Plastics are extremely firm and the whole thing just feels quality. Only complaint is the short power cable, something I am noticing on a lot of fans. Regardless, highly recommended.
Separate topic. Does anyone have any recommendations for a 5.25'' (3.5'' compatible) drive bay? Right now I have my 3.5'' drives sitting in their original trays up in my DVD bays. The rattle is not horrible on idle, but when two drives get going it becomes pretty annoying? Recommendations?
Build quality is fantastic. Plastics are extremely firm and the whole thing just feels quality. Only complaint is the short power cable, something I am noticing on a lot of fans. Regardless, highly recommended.
Separate topic. Does anyone have any recommendations for a 5.25'' (3.5'' compatible) drive bay? Right now I have my 3.5'' drives sitting in their original trays up in my DVD bays. The rattle is not horrible on idle, but when two drives get going it becomes pretty annoying? Recommendations?
OrlanisWorks
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Because I'm stupid, I didn't hop on the R9 280 deal that happened a couple weeks ago. Now, I'm staring down the barrel of the Sapphire R9 280X. It's $200, but with certain maneuvering, I'll be bringing the total cost down to ~$170. (e: ~185 because fuck you NewEgg for destroying the google wallet promo)
I think I'm gonna jump on this since it looks to be the cheapest this card has ever been. (and it's better than the 280 which would be pretty great in the long run)
e: bought it. Will report results when upgrade is complete.
I think I'm gonna jump on this since it looks to be the cheapest this card has ever been. (and it's better than the 280 which would be pretty great in the long run)
e: bought it. Will report results when upgrade is complete.
You want to mount hard drives in the optical bays? What case do you have? If the optical bays are not separated by horizontal bars or panels, then you might be able to buy a hard drive case that takes up the space of 2 or 3 optical drive bays and just slides into the front of the case. Otherwise, you could just buy generic brackets that will fit one HDD to one optical Bay.
Windom Earle
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Around the 7 minute mark he is saying that newer versions of Prime can cause permanent damage to the CPU... Is this true?
The "Wndows" folder on my SSD is 24GB and I don't know why. Is that normal? What would cause it to take up so much space?
I've already done everything in the OP's SSD optimization guide and it had no effect on that folder. The only games I have installed on the SSD are very small (my whole Steam folder on there is about 2GB).
I've already done everything in the OP's SSD optimization guide and it had no effect on that folder. The only games I have installed on the SSD are very small (my whole Steam folder on there is about 2GB).
Yes. It's normal. Windows could take from 20-30GB depending on the version.
Vulcano's assistant
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that is normal. Also, if you are concerned with space. If you leave your computer on all the time and on Hibernate mode, a file for hibernation ( hiberfil.sys) may grow to 6-12 gigs or so depending on your RAM (about 70% of you physical ram iirc) there are instructions to disable this if you wish to do so, a bunch show up in the first page if you google "hiberfil.sys".
edit: whoops, forgot that's in the OP.
Femmeworth
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I'm looking into building a new PC in the spring. I don't have all the money yet so I'm thinking about getting a CPU or GPU now. Which category typically has the better deals during holiday sales?
It is. Do not run small FFT tests if you have 59xx. Even on 1.25v, my temps goes up to 85 (5390K).
I used Realbench, Cinebench and Heaven for stress tests. I find it harder to pass these tests than running Prime.
That's normal. My Windows system folder is just shy of 28 GB. Windows is a big girl.
How large is your SSD? If it's very small, consider using another drive for your OS and keep the SSD as a secondary drive just to store the games you want on it.
GPU as CPUs never go on sale barring price drops or $20 off coupons per retailer. There have been some insane AMD deals like the 280X last page.
Vulcano's assistant
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So I'm having a bit of an issue here.
Here's what happening in short:
1) none of my usb ports work so I can't get to the BIOS or input anything.
2) getting the infamous "reboot and select proper boot device..." message, when anything other than my OS drive is connected; and stuck in the "EFI Shell version..." screen when I disconnect the other sata ports.
What do I think it caused it?
I am not sure but the last thing that happened is that I updated my bios and then when I saw that it was not using the OC profile that I had saved before the updated I loaded it and restarted, an then I was met with the "reboot and select..." screen.
On a side note, before that I was OCing my GPU, which seems to work fine, and the DVI port works.
What I'm trying is to get my mobo to factory design settings (MSI X99 Sli PLUS)
Here's what happening in short:
1) none of my usb ports work so I can't get to the BIOS or input anything.
2) getting the infamous "reboot and select proper boot device..." message, when anything other than my OS drive is connected; and stuck in the "EFI Shell version..." screen when I disconnect the other sata ports.
What do I think it caused it?
I am not sure but the last thing that happened is that I updated my bios and then when I saw that it was not using the OC profile that I had saved before the updated I loaded it and restarted, an then I was met with the "reboot and select..." screen.
On a side note, before that I was OCing my GPU, which seems to work fine, and the DVI port works.
What I'm trying is to get my mobo to factory design settings (MSI X99 Sli PLUS)
Bloodember
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I figured this would be a good place to ask this, if not sorry.
I have an Asus X502C laptop that needs a new battery, it has the C21-X502, 7.4V, 5136mAh, 38Wh battery in it. Will the C31-X502, 11.1V, 4000mAh, 44Wh battery work in it? I'm worried about the voltage being higher and if that will affect anything.
I have an Asus X502C laptop that needs a new battery, it has the C21-X502, 7.4V, 5136mAh, 38Wh battery in it. Will the C31-X502, 11.1V, 4000mAh, 44Wh battery work in it? I'm worried about the voltage being higher and if that will affect anything.
Im not an expert on laptops, but my experience is telling me you want the same voltage, but highest capacity (mAh).
Try a CMOS reset by removing the Motherboard battery for a few minutes.
I recommend to always load optimized defaults before and after the BIOS flash, then to overclock from scratch since the profiles tend to break afterwards.
How did you bring this down to 170? I'm looking at that exact card at that exact price range.Because I'm stupid, I didn't hop on the R9 280 deal that happened a couple weeks ago. Now, I'm staring down the barrel of the Sapphire R9 280X. It's $200, but with certain maneuvering, I'll be bringing the total cost down to ~$170. (e: ~185 because fuck you NewEgg for destroying the google wallet promo)
I think I'm gonna jump on this since it looks to be the cheapest this card has ever been. (and it's better than the 280 which would be pretty great in the long run)
e: bought it. Will report results when upgrade is complete.
atomic moth
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Because I'm stupid, I didn't hop on the R9 280 deal that happened a couple weeks ago. Now, I'm staring down the barrel of the Sapphire R9 280X. It's $200, but with certain maneuvering, I'll be bringing the total cost down to ~$170. (e: ~185 because fuck you NewEgg for destroying the google wallet promo)
I think I'm gonna jump on this since it looks to be the cheapest this card has ever been. (and it's better than the 280 which would be pretty great in the long run)
e: bought it. Will report results when upgrade is complete.
I wouldn't be able to get away with a 600W power supply running that thing would I?
What PSU is it?
atomic moth
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Corsair CX600 80+
Acrylic7
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SO where is the best place to purchase PC parts this Black Friday? Trying to build my first gaming/image and video editing PC.
I know I wont be able to get everything at once but I at least want to get the most expensive items (Processor/ Graphics card) out of the way the cheapest way possible and I'm assuming that's Black Friday or Cyber Monday, right?
I know I wont be able to get everything at once but I at least want to get the most expensive items (Processor/ Graphics card) out of the way the cheapest way possible and I'm assuming that's Black Friday or Cyber Monday, right?
Lollipop Dave
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I currently have an i7-920 and an Alienware Area51 motherboard.
I'm upgrading my Graphics card to a GeForce GTX 970 and figured I'd upgrade everything.
I have two questions:
1) Do I need to upgrade my processor for the card to work on my current set up(I have zero knowledge of pc parts and requirements)
2) I eventually plan to upgrade the cpu/motherboard, just preferably not on the same paycheck as the card. What are some good yet relatively cheap bundles to get. My budget for the motherboard/cpu is about £250-350. Though the cheaper the better.
I will be playing games like Divinity original sin and the Witcher.
I currently play Smite, Team Fortress 2, Civ5, FFXIV.
Much thanks.
I'm upgrading my Graphics card to a GeForce GTX 970 and figured I'd upgrade everything.
I have two questions:
1) Do I need to upgrade my processor for the card to work on my current set up(I have zero knowledge of pc parts and requirements)
2) I eventually plan to upgrade the cpu/motherboard, just preferably not on the same paycheck as the card. What are some good yet relatively cheap bundles to get. My budget for the motherboard/cpu is about £250-350. Though the cheaper the better.
I will be playing games like Divinity original sin and the Witcher.
I currently play Smite, Team Fortress 2, Civ5, FFXIV.
Much thanks.
atomic moth
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In regards to a 600w psu running that R9 280x, I found a thread on toms hardware saying since its a rebranded 7970 a good 500w would be the minimum.
I can't link it because my phone is acting up.
Does anyone agree with that?
Edit: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1834929/280x-psu-requirement.html
I can't link it because my phone is acting up.
Does anyone agree with that?
Edit: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1834929/280x-psu-requirement.html
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