Sounds kind of like this one.
I tried what more do you want from me :v(
Sounds kind of like this one.
We are all just jealous.I tried what more do you want from me
We are all just jealous.
What CPU is it?
HWmonitor is just confusing things, use CPUz and it will tell you the VCore.
The VID is determined dynamically on the latest CPUs, it is solely dependant on the bios, CPU and Multiplier. Most likely a 0v offset will give you that Vcore with Load Line Calibration disabled, which will be about 1.28v probably after VDrop and Vdroop. 1.33v for 4.1Ghz just sounds like a lot to me is this is an i5 4670k. You should be able to do it close to stock voltage.
Just don't mix these up with the ones from the honeymoon.I'm going to take lots of PC porn pics
Two 770s aren't what you want. Get a single 780 or an R9-290x.Thanks ! Yes, I plan on selling my old rig altogether. I am not a big fan of my Cooler Master CM690III anymore and I really want to aim for a small factor gaming rig. If the next generation of nVidia GPUs are noticeably better than the 700s series, I would even go for a single GPU setup in order to fit everything in an EVGA Hadron Air.
Just don't mix these up with the ones from the honeymoon.
Two 770s aren't what you want. Get a single 780 or an R9-290x.
If you want something that is like two 770s, get a GTX 690 or even the Mars 760, though I recommend you don't do that.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97MX-Gaming 5 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($121.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston Fury Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($499.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Node 804 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($95.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1267.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-12 16:30 EDT-0400
That is what I'd build given the same budget.
When the 880 comes out, sell the 780 and upgrade. Rinse repeat with new top end cards. That's how you "futureproof".
Well men...the decision has been made...Core i7 2600k you have been a good soldier for me, a brother even. For 3 good years. But the time has come:
Got some white sleeved EVGA PSU cables coming tomorrow along with a Pro SLI 3-way bridge. Then it's time to build!
I'm ok with this. This board is top notch and with the 6 core 4930k I'll be good for a while. I do most of my changes on the GPU side, and I won't be limited with this board anytime soon. Haswell-E after sleeping on it...I'll let it marinate before hopping in. Kind of like SB-E -> Ivy-E.
Got it with a 2 year replacement plan from Microcenter...so if something goes wrong with it and they don't have this board in the future, which they probably won't, I'll get a gift card for what I paid and can use that for another board in the store. Either the ASUS Swift monitor or Asus 4k Gsync monitor is the only other PC purchase I'm making this year. IT'S A WRAP.
Goodbye PCIe 2.0 ;_;
Thank you so much for the advice ! Yeah, for this rig, I'd rather take a EVGA Hadron even though it's a bit more expensive. Linus showed that you could run a 780 in there so the power supply that comes with it is good enough. I will make sure I get a 780 or a 880 if it launches before January 2015. In any case, it's good to hear I can game @ 3440*1440 for altogether little money. I will start sparing money to get the LG. Hopefully, A-Sync, G-Sync will be widely available in 6 months.Two 770s aren't what you want. Get a single 780 or an R9-290x.
If you want something that is like two 770s, get a GTX 690 or even the Mars 760, though I recommend you don't do that.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97MX-Gaming 5 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($121.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston Fury Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($499.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Node 804 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($95.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1267.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-12 16:30 EDT-0400
That is what I'd build given the same budget.
When the 880 comes out, sell the 780 and upgrade. Rinse repeat with new top end cards. That's how you "futureproof".
Ouch, bummer. If only the 804 wasn't that much bigger than the Hadron. I really need to have side by side pics to really assess the size of both cases. It is crucial to me that the case is as small as possible. And there shouldn't be much noise either since I plan on using the rig with a projector. There is no middle ground by chance ?That being the case, follow the SFF build guide in the OP. You'll need a different heatsink and a different motherboard.
Keep in mind it'll be a bit more noisy than the Node. The PSU fan on the Hadron is a tad loud.
The Node 304. Third post in thread.Ouch, bummer. If only the 804 wasn't that much bigger than the Hadron. I really need to have side by side pics to really assess the size of both cases. It is crucial to me that the case is as small as possible. And there shouldn't be much noise either since I plan on using the rig with a projector. There is no middle ground by chance ?
Go into BIOS and see what the CPU Fan speed is set to.
Just pre ordered my Devils canyon 4790k, Fuck yeah!
Gotcha, I didn't understand that other fans worked on the same headers. Yeah, just replace the fan.I'll check when I am home. But since I tried it onto multiple connections where a different fan would work I don't think it could make a difference.
They're about 10-15% faster clock for clock than Sandy.Do you have any idea mate if there are performance benefits over Sandy Bridge CPUs? People have told me to not upgrade the CPU but my CPU - A 950 3,0 ghz i7 is from 2011. Its hard to imagine that CPU gains having not grown much in the past 3 years.
But I assume you can over clock some of these new devil canyons processors to 4,5 or maybe even 5 GHz? Is there any of them that has a stock speed of 4 GHz? And does any of these processors come in a 6 or 8 core variety?
That makes me more happy than you can knowEDIT: This is going to sound weird, but I love these I need a New PC threads. For the last several years it's been one of my favourite threads. No arguing in here, no trolls just people helping each other, and so much good condensed info. Truly PC gaf is a wonderful thing. It's not at all like PC gaf was in 2006-2007. Not that many Neogaffers PC gaming back then<3
Do you have any idea mate if there are performance benefits over Sandy Bridge CPUs? People have told me to not upgrade the CPU but my CPU - A 950 3,0 ghz i7 is from 2011. Its hard to imagine that CPU gains having not grown much in the past 3 years.
But I assume you can over clock some of these new devil canyons processors to 4,5 or maybe even 5 GHz? Is there any of them that has a stock speed of 4 GHz? And does any of these processors come in a 6 or 8 core variety?
EDIT: This is going to sound weird, but I love these I need a New PC threads. For the last several years it's been one of my favourite threads. No arguing in here, no trolls just people helping each other, and so much good condensed info. Truly PC gaf is a wonderful thing. It's not at all like PC gaf was in 2006-2007. Not that many Neogaffers PC gaming back then<3
Do you have any idea mate if there are performance benefits over Sandy Bridge CPUs? People have told me to not upgrade the CPU but my CPU - A 950 3,0 ghz i7 is from 2011. Its hard to imagine that CPU gains having not grown much in the past 3 years.
But I assume you can over clock some of these new devil canyons processors to 4,5 or maybe even 5 GHz? Is there any of them that has a stock speed of 4 GHz? And does any of these processors come in a 6 or 8 core variety?
EDIT: This is going to sound weird, but I love these I need a New PC threads. For the last several years it's been one of my favourite threads. No arguing in here, no trolls just people helping each other, and so much good condensed info. Truly PC gaf is a wonderful thing. It's not at all like PC gaf was in 2006-2007. Not that many Neogaffers PC gaming back then<3
EDIT: This is going to sound weird, but I love these I need a New PC threads. For the last several years it's been one of my favourite threads. No arguing in here, no trolls just people helping each other, and so much good condensed info. Truly PC gaf is a wonderful thing. It's not at all like PC gaf was in 2006-2007. Not that many Neogaffers PC gaming back then<3
That seems like a sound proposal but the volume of the 304 is nearly twice the one in the Hadron Air. I guess I took my decision. I just hope there is a way to change the PSU in the Hadron.The Node 304. Third post in thread.
Gotcha, I didn't understand that other fans worked on the same headers. Yeah, just replace the fan.
They're about 10-15% faster clock for clock than Sandy.
The i7, 4790K, comes with a stock clock of 4.2 basically.
The max overclock is going to be silicon lottery. You might end up with a good chip, you might end up with something that maxes out at 4.4-4.6. It's just a dice roll.
No 6 or 8 core varieties.
That makes me more happy than you can know
Didn't want to wait for Broadwell-E? :O
I am going to reapply the cooling paste, and that might make a bit of a difference but how much of a difference is the lack of fan making? Thinking of getting a new fan or maybe even a new heatsink. Any advice?
Huge difference.Do you know how much of a difference a fan could make? Because about twenty degrees lower sounds normal for me with the setup that I have.
It's not. You'd get about a 6-10% boost, clock for clock.What would be a good motherboard to go for Devil's Canyon? Current one is only z77 so I'll have to change that. Will broadwell be a different chipset? Really have no idea how motherboards are set up. Also, what does one need to do to prepare for GDD4? Appreciate the knowledge as always.
My i53570K just feels like its limiting performance in some games.
Huge difference.
It's not. You'd get about a 6-10% boost, clock for clock.
Arctic Cooling F12s are usually pretty cheap and they perform really well.Alright, I'll troubleshoot a bit more to be sure, and otherwise I'll get a new fan.
Anyone has a recommendation? Netherlands, if it makes a difference.
Huge difference.
It's not. You'd get about a 6-10% boost, clock for clock.
DDR4 will be on Haswell-E, which is the enthusiast socket. Basic motherboards will be around $200-230, the cheapest processor around $330-350. It won't be appearing on the consumer socket until Skylake, which is after Broadwell.
Arctic Cooling F12s are usually pretty cheap and they perform really well.
Right, but there's nothing really to upgrade to.Maybe I need a new CPU fan or something, performance in CPU heavy games like Arma III barely improved going from a 670 to a 780 Ti
Alright, I'll troubleshoot a bit more to be sure, and otherwise I'll get a new fan.
Anyone has a recommendation? Netherlands, if it makes a difference.
I tried what more do you want from me :v(
They are officially out of production, which really sucks.Azerty is usually my go-to shop. Personally I like Thermalright's TY-141s, but I'm not sure if those would fit on a Mugen 2. Noiseblockers make great fans too, but they aren't cheap. Scythe's Gentle Typhoons have good CFM/db and they aren't usually too expensive either.
Right, but there's nothing really to upgrade to.
What is it clocked at?
Azerty is usually my go-to shop. Personally I like Thermalright's TY-141s, but I'm not sure if those would fit on a Mugen 2. Noiseblockers make great fans too, but they aren't cheap. Scythe's Gentle Typhoons have good CFM/db and they aren't usually too expensive either.
They are officially out of production, which really sucks.
Depending on your cooler, you should realistically be able to get it to 4.4-4.6 pretty easily. That'll be more of a bump than a Haswell at 4.0.I do only have it at 4.0 so I could OC a bit more. Just need to spend time reading a few guides as I ran into issues last time and got discouraged from going too high.
Was just a bummer to load up Arma III and have it running at the exact same framerate as before. Suppose I need to look more into the settings, turned the visibility down.
Dude, I barely know shit about PC building, best if you ask these guys about anything. I just know that the Devils canyon is like the next step up. My thing should be coming on the 22nd of this month.
Gotcha, I didn't understand that other fans worked on the same headers. Yeah, just replace the fan.
They're about 10-15% faster clock for clock than Sandy.
The i7, 4790K, comes with a stock clock of 4.2 basically.
The max overclock is going to be silicon lottery. You might end up with a good chip, you might end up with something that maxes out at 4.4-4.6. It's just a dice roll.
No 6 or 8 core varieties.
That makes me more happy than you can know
Your i7 is Bloomfield not Sandy Bridge. SB was the generation after your chip.
Your CPU is still solid, and very solid if you overclock it to 4GHz. Intel doesn't really have much competition so they've focused on mobile and iGPUs rather than pushing CPU power on.
As for OCing, I'd be surprised to see most DC chips exceed 4.6 GHz. The i7s come clocked at 4GHz and turbo to 4.4.
No 6 or 8 core CPUs unless you go Ivy Bridge-E and pay huge money.
This thread is great that way. Even though some of us might have preferences towards Nvidia or AMD, we don't get into wars like some of the console fanboys. It's very much like Neogaf porn threads in a way. Someone with better photo shopping skills should make the below photo say "neogaf discusses PC hardware".
Depending on your cooler, you should realistically be able to get it to 4.4-4.6 pretty easily. That'll be more of a bump than a Haswell at 4.0.
Adoption of engines for more than two threads is still a tiny fraction of games, interestingly enough.Well guys, then let me ask you, do you think 6 and 8 core will be a thing? Adaption for Quad-Core took a while.
I remember that in 2008 when Age of Conan came out, and GTA4 PC, that I saw people with QuadCore having a massive advantage. But both were hailed as poorly optimised. At least initially.
I wonder, with the requirements of Watch_Dogs, what do you thinks we are looking at in the nearby future in regards to GTA5 PC, Assassins Creed Unity, Dragon Age 3, Witcher 3? We're talking bigger open worlds than ever before, big worlds are always heavy on the CPU right?
It's my understanding that bumping up the resolution, going for the AA, the shadow, particle, smoke, fire, water, weather, spell, explosions, all those types of things are GPU intensive.
But what taxes the CPU are things like physics simulations, and simply rendering many models, and big worlds with lots of world objects. I'm particularly concerned about GTA5. Even though this is a last gen game, it's hard to believe how much they have bumped it. The level of cars and pedestrians, and that draw distance. I wonder if a 6 or 8 core will really be desired for this?
I know it's impossible to say, as it depends on the quality of a port, but if we use the adaption from Core 2 Duo to QuadCore which seems to have been a 2-3 segway, I am beginning to wonder if we need this? After all, Xbox One and PS4 both have architecture with lots of smaller CPU cores and many threads right? And given their easy porting language for PC, could you make the argument that it would be good to have a system that mirrors the consoles in architecture?
Built this on Monday. No issues, running great!
I'm finally able to play all those games I bough on Steam sales that I could never run before lol.
Reading through this thread was great help. I haven't built a pc since like 04.
CPU - i5 4760k - $220
Motherboard - MSI z87m - $150
GPU - MSI r9 280x gaming (got off craigslist) $250
PSU - Thermaltake 750w PSU - $70
SSD - PNY 240gb - $130
HDD STORAGE - 1tb toshiba (not pictured) - free
RAM - 8gb of Corsair Vengance - $90
CASE - BitFenix Prodigy M - $59
OS - Windows 8.1 Pro - free
Wanted to make a mid tier gaming/media center pc. Using big picture mode on my 60" tv playing Batman AA is awesome.
Just need to get a real cpu cooler and maybe a BD drive and I'll be set. Any recommendations?
Nice setup. Congrats. What is your budget for the CPU cooler? Air or water cooling? For the BD drive, I don't think it matters really. Just make sure there aren't a lot of bad reviews on reliability.
Pretty much anything in the op would fit.I would love to try a to put a water cooling setup together but I don't think my case is a good candidate, plus it's a little cramped.
Looking for a sub $60 CPU Air cooler. A quiet one would be best. The pc runs pretty quiet as it is.
I would love to try a to put a water cooling setup together but I don't think my case is a good candidate, plus it's a little cramped.
Looking for a sub $60 CPU Air cooler. A quiet one would be best. The pc runs pretty quiet as it is.