"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 2. Read OP, your 2500K will run Witcher 3. MX100s! 970!

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While the FT02 is pretty good, it is outdated and is kind of tough to work in.

Might be a bit outdated but humanity haven't designed better air cooling case yet ;)

And looking at this one - it will have same problems - just look at amount of space below PSU. They are also using AiO watercooler on cpu to hide how crowded that area would be with something like Mugen4/Macho/NH-15 etc.
 
Help me GAF :(

I currently have 2 7970s.

R9 295x2 price is coming down in price in the UK too for a limited time to about £600-700. Is that worth it do you think, or better to hold off for Nvidias new cards? I can't imagine Nvidia would match that price/performance...
 
Help me GAF :(

I currently have 2 7970s.

R9 295x2 price is coming down in price in the UK too for a limited time to about £600-700. Is that worth it do you think, or better to hold off for Nvidias new cards? I can't imagine Nvidia would match that price/performance...

Depends if you're satisfied with your 7970s.
 
Huh, so that dumb "Nvidia's skipping the 800 series" thing might have some truth behind it. Too bad it's impossible to confirm without an account for the wholesaler's website.
 
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Help me GAF :(

I currently have 2 7970s.

R9 295x2 price is coming down in price in the UK too for a limited time to about £600-700. Is that worth it do you think, or better to hold off for Nvidias new cards? I can't imagine Nvidia would match that price/performance...
What kind of display do you have?
 
Unlike the "Ultra Durable" Gigabyte boards, ASRock ones have never failed me :P

Anyway, I don't know how anyone could buy anything but an ASUS board for X99. Just for pure excitement and entertainment value, their custom socket is the single most interesting thing which happened in mainboards in the past 5 years. That needs to be rewarded, so I'm going ASUS.
 
If they release a mATX board, I will buy ASUS. However, they've already announced there will be no Rampage V Gene. I'd be happy with a standard board in mATX though. They're totally silent about it so far.

And, to counter your anecdote, I've only had one Gigabyte board fail on me, which was directly the result of faulty PSU cables.

And I've owned (including workstations here at work) at least 30 of them.
 
Unlike the "Ultra Durable" Gigabyte boards, ASRock ones have never failed me :P

Anyway, I don't know how anyone could buy anything but an ASUS board for X99. Just for pure excitement and entertainment value, their custom socket is the single most interesting thing which happened in mainboards in the past 5 years. That needs to be rewarded, so I'm going ASUS.

I've yet to see any advantage in overclocking, though, based on reviews. Wasn't that the whole point?
 
Unlike the "Ultra Durable" Gigabyte boards, ASRock ones have never failed me :P

Anyway, I don't know how anyone could buy anything but an ASUS board for X99. Just for pure excitement and entertainment value, their custom socket is the single most interesting thing which happened in mainboards in the past 5 years. That needs to be rewarded, so I'm going ASUS.

I only had positive experience with Asrock/GB while Asus had worst support for their mobos.
 
As much as I know about computers, the one thing I've never tried, nor completely understand how to do, is overclocking. I want to since I have a i7-3770k, but.... Lol
 
I have an old Q6600 with 12GB RAM and an old ATI hd4770, would a GPU upgrade to something modern be worth it or would the GPU be bottle necked by the CPU?
 
I have an old Q6600 with 12GB RAM and an old ATI hd4770, would a GPU upgrade to something modern be worth it or would the GPU be bottle necked by the CPU?

If you have a Q6600 G0, you should be able to overclock it to 3.1-3.4ghz and it'll be fine with modern GPUs and give you a massive gaming improvement. Even if you can't OC, it'd be fine most of the time. I wouldn't go all out, but something in the range of a Radeon 260x if stock, 265 if you can get a good OC, would see you a large improvement for little cash. I wouldn't get anything more expensive though.

My logic: A buddy of mine has a Q6600 @ 3.3Ghz and paired it with a strongly overclocked GTX 560 (which is similar to a stock 260x) a few years ago and it does just fine still today - I think it could handle something even a little faster hence my 265 suggestion if you can get a good overclock on the CPU. I also went from a Phenom II @ 3.5 (similar to a Q6600 around 3.0-3.4) and from a 4850 (barely faster than a 4770) to a very overclocked GTX 460 and saw a massive improvement - if I went a couple steps higher (260x-265 range nowadays) I am certain I still would have benefited a bit more.
 
I have an old Q6600 with 12GB RAM and an old ATI hd4770, would a GPU upgrade to something modern be worth it or would the GPU be bottle necked by the CPU?

To add confusion to your question, it entirely depends on the game in question. In some, you will see nearly all of the gains you are paying for with a new GPU. In others, like UE3, Source, some others, you're going to be bottlenecked by the CPU during certain parts of gameplay. Multiplayer games as well will give you an overall higher frame rate, but choppiness and stutters will likely remain where they are.
 
I've yet to see any advantage in overclocking, though, based on reviews. Wasn't that the whole point?
Even if it does nothing at all (and personally, I doubt there's a significant difference outside of "extreme overclocking" scenarios none of us will reach), the sheer audacity of the idea of having a socket with 73 more pins than specified by the CPU manufacturer needs to be rewarded.

As I said earlier in the thread, it sound like a story a teenage overclocker would make up, and not like something which actually happened.
 
I have an old Q6600 with 12GB RAM and an old ATI hd4770, would a GPU upgrade to something modern be worth it or would the GPU be bottle necked by the CPU?

Speaking as someone who had a Q6600 and 4850. I saw a great improvement when I upgraded to a 670.

I saw an incredible amazing astounding improvement when I upgraded to a 2500K.

Keep your eyes out for a used 2500K and motherbaord. You should be able to find Cpu, Mobo and Ram for under 200. Or if you want new, get an Anniversary Pentium.

You'd still see a decent improvement getting a new GPU and it would be one less thing to buy when you upgraded eventually.
 
It could be one of those freaky optical illusions due to the camera angle but that CoolerMaster heat sink looks waaaaaay off centre.

Agreed, definitely looks somewhat "on the piss" in comparison to the rest of the case.

It's not as bad as it looks, but it is angled slightly. I've ordered some alcohol and wipes from Amazon, and they'll be here saturday. I really didn't want to do this
 
If I'm being honest, I wouldn't even know where to start, aside from looking up a "how-to". Lol

That's pretty much it, see if you can find a how to for your motherboard brand and CPU. But the basics are the same. Go to the BIOS, up the multiplier, see if it boots, if not add a little voltage in the BIOS, check CPU temperature in Windows, stress test for a short time when you are reaching limits. And when you are done stress test for a long time.
 
Do you guys think I messed up installing my cpu+cooler?

I put a blob the size of a healthy pea on my 4690k. It looked rather big but I said fuck it and stuck the heatsink on. Then maybe 30 minutes later I realized my heatsink was oriented wrong and pried it off. The paste was spread over the entire cpu all the way to the edges. I waffled for 20 minutes, then decided to just stick my heatsink on the right way since I had no rubbing alcohol to remove the paste.

Does that sound like too much paste? Will sticking the heatsink on again 50 minutes after initially applying the paste mess with the bonding or whatever?
 
maybe thats the difference?
Does the 290x really equate to x3 GTX 770 4gb each?
Its suppose to take into consideration. This is the extreme test

Is your CPU overclocked at all? I have a 4790k @ 4.4GHz, and 16GB of RAM (not that I think RAM makes any difference). Also at 1080p.

My guess is you had SLI disabled or something.
 
Watercooling an Anniversary Pentium - pointless? Thoughts?
Just like with any modern CPU, it doesn't give you access to speeds that would be otherwise be impossible to achieve. It is all about the aesthetics, sound, and tinkering.

So, it isn't any more or less pointless than a 4790K or 5960X.
Is your CPU overclocked at all? I have a 4790k @ 4.4GHz, and 16GB of RAM (not that I think RAM makes any difference). Also at 1080p.

My guess is you had SLI disabled or something.
Nah, his score is for extreme. Yours is not.
 
Just like with any modern CPU, it doesn't give you access to speeds that would be otherwise be impossible to achieve. It is all about the aesthetics, sound, and tinkering.

So, it isn't any more or less pointless than a 4790K or 5960X.s
Just a shame to not use the Splash to full potential. Selling my i7 and stuff to switch from Asus to gigabyte.
 
Just like with any modern CPU, it doesn't give you access to speeds that would be otherwise be impossible to achieve. It is all about the aesthetics, sound, and tinkering.

So, it isn't any more or less pointless than a 4790K or 5960X.
Nah, his score is for extreme. Yours is not.

Ah thats it. Didn't know there was a difference.
 
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