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"I Need a New PC!" 2015 Part 1. Read the OP and RISE ABOVE FORGED PRECISION SCIENCE

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mkenyon

Banned
Managed to get ahold of a free copy of Windows 7 (Embedded) from Microsoft through this student programme I'm abusing for gaming lol, but I'm not sure how I go about installing it. Can I just put the 2gig file onto a memory stick and stick it into my PC to install?
You need this.
OK guys I have 4 gigs of 1333

At Fry's they have 8 GB of 1866 for 49.99 should I pull the trigger ?
Sure. But keep in mind you'll need to set it at 1866 through XMP in BIOS in order for it to run at those rated speeds. Anything over 1333 is technically an overclock on memory.
 

Grimsen

Member
Too late, I called dibs. Gettin' old kennah.


$400 is really hard for new parts. Prices are a bit lower than specific things I put on here since this is half a year old, but this would do it.



Drop the heatsink off of that, and maybe find a nice used GPU that still has a warranty. That'd put you right around $400.

Otherwise, used would be the way to go.

Thanks for that! Gonna use it as a starting point.
 

nelchaar

Member
Hey all, what's the best graphics card for $200 max? I'm in between R9 270x 4GB over clocked and a GTX 960, but the latter is a 2GB card.
 
I know somebody who just bought (<1 week) a 960 2gb from EVGA, that should be eligible for the step up to the recently announced 4gb when it hits presumably?
 
Generally they don't allow step up on ram upgrades. An exception was made for the 780 Ti I think.

Wait what, really? That sucks if true.

On their step up page they have this:

"Graphics Cards Examples:

GTX 460 &#8594; GTX 580: YES (Upgraded GPU)
GTX 460 768MB &#8594; GTX 460 1GB: YES (Upgraded Memory)
GTX 970 FTW &#8594; GTX 970 FTW+ : YES (Upgraded Model)"
 

kennah

Member
Wait what, really? That sucks if true.

On their step up page they have this:

"Graphics Cards Examples:

GTX 460 &#8594; GTX 580: YES (Upgraded GPU)
GTX 460 768MB &#8594; GTX 460 1GB: YES (Upgraded Memory)
GTX 970 FTW &#8594; GTX 970 FTW+ : YES (Upgraded Model)"

Hmm, weird. I could be miremembering.
 

mkenyon

Banned
Wait what, really? That sucks if true.

On their step up page they have this:

"Graphics Cards Examples:

GTX 460 &#8594; GTX 580: YES (Upgraded GPU)
GTX 460 768MB &#8594; GTX 460 1GB: YES (Upgraded Memory)
GTX 970 FTW &#8594; GTX 970 FTW+ : YES (Upgraded Model)"

This used to not be the case, and I know they made an exception when the 6GB 780s hit. Perhaps they decided to make that standard?

In any case, they do not allow stepping up to/from every model, and the model the person is stepping up to might be exempt.
 

kennah

Member
Income tax has me looking at finishing my water cooling build finally...

$264 plus taxes and shipping, not counting needing a new motherboard and CPU.
 

OraleeWey

Member
I'll be looking to build a beefy computer in the coming months. Can I count on GAF to help a noob who knows 0% about computers build one for himself? What parts to buy,etc. :)
I hope yes
 

LilJoka

Member
I've skimmed through it. There's a lot of overwhelming information I don't truly understand. I can somewhat comprehend but not completely understand.

This is what we need

Your Current Specs: CPU / RAM / Motherboard / GPU (Graphics) / PSU (Power Supply) / Case / HDD (Hard Drive)
Budget: Price Range + Country
Main Use: Rate 1-5. 5 being Highest: Light Gaming, Gaming, Emulation (PS2/Wii), Video Editing, Streaming games in HD, 3D/Model work (and what program), General Usage (Word, Web, 1080p playback).
Monitor Resolution: What resolution will you be playing your games at? Are you going to upgrade later? Are you buying a new monitor?
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Is 30FPS acceptable? 60? 120? How important is PhysX / SuperSampling / CUDA to you?
Looking to reuse any parts?: List make and model (e.g. Corsair 520HX, 640GB SATA HDD, Antec 900)
When will you build?: Do you have a deadline?
Will you be overclocking?: Yes, No, Maybe (This means yes!)
 

OraleeWey

Member
This is what we need

start by giving a budget


Yeah. I understand. But I'm looking to build one in the coming months. Ideally my budget would be $1,500-$1,600 on parts. Excluding keyboard and mouse, but including a monitor.

I'm looking for "future proof" as I want to upgrade as minimal as possible. Though, I understand that I have to and price can be a factor as well as time since in months a new graphics card may be released.

This is my general idea. I'd like to be able to play 1080p and at least 120fps for the foreseeable future. If applicable within my build. For a monitor I want something wide, don't know about the inches yet. So, yeah... I know what I want but not how to execute it!
 

mkenyon

Banned
The best way to future proof is to not overspend and save money for upgrading the GPU every 2 years.

Monitor included in that price?

*edit* just read that again.

I'll put something together in 20 mins or so.
 

OraleeWey

Member
First - learn that there is no such thing as future proof.

Only then, can you embrace the truth of PC gaming.

I've covered that. I know I have to at some point.

I'm looking for "future proof" as I want to upgrade as minimal as possible. Though, I understand that I have to and price can be a factor as well as time since in months a new graphics card may be released

The best way to future proof is to not overspend and save money for upgrading the GPU every 2 years.

Monitor included in that price?

*edit* just read that again.

I'll put something together in 20 mins or so.

Thanks. Would really appreciate it.
 

LilJoka

Member
I've covered that. I know I have to at some point.





Thanks. Would really appreciate it.

Possible ITX build, Node 304 and Hyper 212 CPU cooler would also work.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1220 V3 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i 57.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.99 @ Mwave)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M-ITX/AC Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone RVZ01B Mini ITX Desktop Case ($79.99 @ Directron)
Power Supply: Silverstone 500W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply ($91.16 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1006.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-04 21:13 EST-0500

mATX build
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1220 V3 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 350D MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($71.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $972.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-04 21:16 EST-0500

Assuming you arent overlocking, arent using any existing parts, are in the USA.

GTX 980 if you want 1080p 120fps, or atleast closer to it.
Z97 motherboard if you want to overclock, and the i7 4790K CPU to pair with that.
SSD+HDD size of choice.

Rest can stay pretty much the same, unless you think you want to SLI.
 

Jzero

Member
I want to be ready for VR this Novemeber so i want to upgrade my current build a bit in a few months.

iGwxQ6GsWMUsf.PNG


I have a Mini ITX build so i can only have space for one graphics card.

Should i first upgrade my 760 to a 970, wait for a new GPU, Upgrade my Core-i5 to a Core-i7, or upgrade my whole motherboard for DDR4 support and a better CPU architechture and such?
 

The Llama

Member
I want to be ready for VR this Novemeber so i want to upgrade my current build a bit in a few months.

iGwxQ6GsWMUsf.PNG


I have a Mini ITX build so i can only have space for one graphics card.

Should i first upgrade my 760 to a 970, wait for a new GPU, Upgrade my Core-i5 to a Core-i7, or upgrade my whole motherboard for DDR4 support and a better CPU architechture and such?

Overclock the CPU, upgrade the GPU, and you'll be fine.
 

LilJoka

Member
I want to be ready for VR this Novemeber so i want to upgrade my current build a bit in a few months.

iGwxQ6GsWMUsf.PNG


I have a Mini ITX build so i can only have space for one graphics card.

Should i first upgrade my 760 to a 970, wait for a new GPU, Upgrade my Core-i5 to a Core-i7, or upgrade my whole motherboard for DDR4 support and a better CPU architechture and such?

GPU, wait for new GPUs. 970 would be ideal, but since VR is still a little while off, better to skip the 970 and get the next best value card in the new Gen without the false marketing.

Overclock the CPU.

Ideally buy the GPU when you buy your VR Set.
 

OraleeWey

Member
Possible ITX build, Node 304 and Hyper 212 CPU cooler would also work.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1220 V3 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i 57.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.99 @ Mwave)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M-ITX/AC Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone RVZ01B Mini ITX Desktop Case ($79.99 @ Directron)
Power Supply: Silverstone 500W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply ($91.16 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1006.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-04 21:13 EST-0500

mATX build
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1220 V3 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 350D MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($71.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $972.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-04 21:16 EST-0500

Assuming you arent overlocking, arent using any existing parts, are in the USA.

GTX 980 if you want 1080p 120fps, or atleast closer to it.
Z97 motherboard if you want to overclock, and the i7 4790K CPU to pair with that.
SSD+HDD size of choice.

Rest can stay pretty much the same, unless you think you want to SLI.


How about some more RAM? Maybe 16?

I did not mention but I want to do some editing. Maybe video clips (not so much) but for other. Like GoPro footage.
 

vanguardian1

poor, homeless and tasteless
I decided to forget about the M.2 port, just ordering the parts tonight @ Newegg :

Intel I5 4690K @ $229
ASRock Fatal1ty H97 Performance LGA 1150 @ $100 b4 $20 MIR (has slot config I want minus the M.2 and it can OC K-class CPU's!)
G-Skill 2x4gb DDR3 1600 @ $60


I'll worry about a different cooler for overclocking later, as well as more ram. And an eye on GPU's coming out soon. ~_~
 

LilJoka

Member
How about some more RAM? Maybe 16?

I did not mention but I want to do some editing. Maybe video clips (not so much) but for other. Like GoPro footage.

Can use a 2x8GB kit
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-memory-bls2kit8g3d1609ds1s00

Also go for the i7 4790 instead of the CPU i listed earlier as it only has 4 cores, whereas the i7 has 4 cores 8 threads which would be useful for video editing.

Like so

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($286.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($114.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 4GB Twin Frozr Video Card ($549.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 350D MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($71.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1334.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-04 21:33 EST-0500
 

mkenyon

Banned
@LilJoka Why the Xeon over the 4790K out of curiosity? That low frequency completely wrecks the ability to run at sustained 8.3ms in a lot of games. That was one of their preferences.

My suggestion:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($321.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z97M-PLUS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($123.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial BX100 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290X 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($339.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Corsair 350D MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($71.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: BenQ XL2411Z 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($278.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1479.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-04 21:31 EST-0500

You can swap out the 290x with a 970 if you have a strong preference for NVIDIA. Also, you could buy all that stuff except for video card and see what's up with the new AMD releases.
 

Buggy Loop

Member
Anyone knows of a way to be sure a SSD drive is dying and its not another problem?

Tonight i had a freeze while gaming, i thought nothing of it since.. it happens, but the restart didnt recognize a bootable drive... uh oh.. I shutdown the case by force, restart and it boots. Thinking its just a weird problem i start playing again, same thing happened. Now its crashing in windows while in safe mode, freeze when im trying to do a disk error check (the one in dos mode before booting into w7).

Seems like the SSD gave up on me, but how to be sure?
 

OraleeWey

Member
@LilJoka Why the Xeon over the 4790K out of curiosity? That low frequency completely wrecks the ability to run at sustained 8.3ms in a lot of games. That was one of their preferences.

My suggestion:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($321.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z97M-PLUS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($123.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial BX100 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290X 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($339.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Corsair 350D MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($71.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: BenQ XL2411Z 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($278.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1479.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-04 21:31 EST-0500

You can swap out the 290x with a 970 if you have a strong preference for NVIDIA. Also, you could buy all that stuff except for video card and see what's up with the new AMD releases.


I will take everything into consideration. So this is the build im looking for right?

I can start buying parts.

And I dont know my preferences. Like Nvidia and stUff. Like I said, my knowledge isn't extensive.
 

FLAguy954

Junior Member
I couldn't get the money together quick enough for a decent monitor so I cheaped out and snagged the latest run of the Seiki 39' 4K TV.

I am running this thing at 122Hz/1080P and WOW! I am now a believer of high refresh rates. I was testing out all of my games and many of them were way smoother than before. Especially the games with borderless-window mode: virtually no tearing and smooth as fuck.


I'm also using calibration settings that I found online from someone using a Spyder 3.

This 'stopgap' was long overdue as I had to resort to down-sampling on a shitty 1440x900 Samsung monitor with light bleed for months :/.
I have a 4670K and a 290 so obviously the monitor did not match up.
 
Hey guys, I'm looking for the some quick advice. I currently own a HD7850 and the fan noise is driving me crazy. Sounds like a fucking jet engine. It's also strangely hot. Runs at around 80 degrees on load. I'm thinking of getting rid of it and I wondering if anyone has some recommendations?

What I'm Looking For:
1. Has to be cool and quiet card around $150
2. Low power draw. I only have a 400W PSU.
3. Doesn't matter if it's Nvidia or AMD. I'm equal opportunity when it comes to graphics.
4. I don't even care about a big upgrade, as long as it doesn't perform worse than my HD7850. My 7850 only has 1 GB of RAM anyway.

Bonus: Would be amazing if it's passively cooled, but I seriously doubt I can get performance like the 7850 with a heat sink. Besides, I know someone made a passively cool 7850, and they had to down clock the speed a little.
 

RGM79

Member
Hey guys, I'm looking for the some quick advice. I currently own a HD7850 and the fan noise is driving me crazy. Sounds like a fucking jet engine. It's also strangely hot. Runs at around 80 degrees on load. I'm thinking of getting rid of it and I wondering if anyone has some recommendations?

What I'm Looking For:
1. Has to be cool and quiet card around $150
2. Low power draw. I only have a 400W PSU.
3. Doesn't matter if it's Nvidia or AMD. I'm equal opportunity when it comes to graphics.
4. I don't even care about a big upgrade, as long as it doesn't perform worse than my HD7850. My 7850 only has 1 GB of RAM anyway.

Bonus: Would be amazing if it's passively cooled, but I seriously doubt I can get performance like the 7850 with a heat sink. Besides, I know someone made a passively cool 7850, and they had to down clock the speed a little.

The GTX 750 Ti is right up your alley, it's very power efficient and 400 watts is definitely more than enough. Compared to the 7850, it's a little bit weaker in overall framerate performance, but it comes with 2GB VRAM and this Asus Strix model ($155) has a semi-fanless running mode.

However, $155 is a bit much for a GTX 750 Ti model. If you can drop the fanless requirement, you'll save money by getting an EVGA Superclocked model for about $125 after $20 rebate and it'll perform just as well as the Asus model for a lower cost.

You have tried cleaning the 7850's cooler, right? Getting the GTX 750 Ti wouldn't be much of an upgrade. Your 400 watt power supply won't handle anything better, though.
 

RustyO

Member
In the market for a new PC or Laptop, primarily for software development and music production and would appreciate some advice / recommendations.

Your Current Specs: Asus UL50VT, Intel Core Duo 2, U7300 @ 1.30GHz, 4GB Ram (Old personal/work laptop, struggles a little bit these days)

Budget: $1,000 to $1,500 Australian. (Kind of flexible, work tool, expense can be justified, but not excessive. I don't want to pay top dollar for marginal increases)

Main Use:

- 5: Software development: Visual Studio / SQL Database, data crunching and analysis
- 4: Music production: Cubase / VST's
- 3: General Usage: Excel / Word / Web etc.
- 2: Light Gaming: Older/Indie PC titles (Console gamer)

Monitor Resolution: - n/a for Gaming, but I like lots of real estate when developing / producing. Have a Toshiba tv/hdmi as second monitor.

List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well:

- Windows 7 Pro and Windows 8
- Visual Studio 2010 / 2012 / 2013 / 2015
- Microsoft SQL Server 2005 / 2008 / 2008R2 / 2012 / 2014
- VMWare / Test environments running Windows Server, SQL Server etc.
- Excel / Large Datasets
- Various business / enterprise scale applications.
- Cubase / Various VST's

When will you build?: ASAP, next week or so?

Will you be overclocking?: No

--------------------------------------------------

Here is what I am looking at so far, but these are really just guesses?

CPU: Intel i7-4790K ($469) / Intel i7-4790 ($413) or Intel i5-4690K ($319) Thinking i7-4790 as the good middle ground... but is it worth it over the i5-4690K for my needs?
Motherboard: Asus H97M-E ($129) (Really open to suggestions on a good/cheap Mobo)
Ram: Kingston Hyper X Fury HX318C10FBK2/16 16GB (2x8GB) Black ($195)
Case: Existing Carillon AC-1 (looks like this http://www.carillonac1.com/core-1.html)
PSU: Existing? I think 300w... It's quite old... I think a new one may be in order.
Storage 1: Kingston Hyper X Fury 120GB SSD ($78) (Presume there is signifcant benefit in using the SSD for OS/Apps?)
Storage 2: Western Digital Green EZRX 3TB SATA3 ($129) or Western Digital Red EFRX 3TB SATA3 ($163)
Storage 3: Existing WD 3TB External
Storage 4: Existing WD 3TB External
Optical: Existing LG DVD R/W
Graphics Card: Asus 2GB GT610 ($54) (Really open to suggestions on a good/cheap Graphic card, must have dual outputs though)
Monitor 1: BenQ GL2460 24" 2ms ($179)
Monitor 2: Existing Toshiba HDMI TV 40in?

Cost: $1,083 to $1,267 or so.

Thanks in advance.
 

Hazaro

relies on auto-aim
I'd look into the benefits of an X99 hexacore for not that much more. The RAM channel bandwidth boost and hexacore should help a lot. You can consider 2133MHz RAM as well if the pricing doesn't kill you in AUD.
SSD for OS 100%, but I'd only buy Crucial or Samsung or Intel (OP parts).
 

RGM79

Member
In the market for a new PC or Laptop, primarily for software development and music production and would appreciate some advice / recommendations.

Your Current Specs: Asus UL50VT, Intel Core Duo 2, U7300 @ 1.30GHz, 4GB Ram (Old personal/work laptop, struggles a little bit these days)

Budget: $1,000 to $1,500 Australian. (Kind of flexible, work tool, expense can be justified, but not excessive. I don't want to pay top dollar for marginal increases)

Main Use:

- 5: Software development: Visual Studio / SQL Database, data crunching and analysis
- 4: Music production: Cubase / VST's
- 3: General Usage: Excel / Word / Web etc.
- 2: Light Gaming: Older/Indie PC titles (Console gamer)

Monitor Resolution: - n/a for Gaming, but I like lots of real estate when developing / producing. Have a Toshiba tv/hdmi as second monitor.

List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well:

- Windows 7 Pro and Windows 8
- Visual Studio 2010 / 2012 / 2013 / 2015
- Microsoft SQL Server 2005 / 2008 / 2008R2 / 2012 / 2014
- VMWare / Test environments running Windows Server, SQL Server etc.
- Excel / Large Datasets
- Various business / enterprise scale applications.
- Cubase / Various VST's

When will you build?: ASAP, next week or so?

Will you be overclocking?: No

--------------------------------------------------

Here is what I am looking at so far, but these are really just guesses?

CPU: Intel i7-4790K ($469) / Intel i7-4790 ($413) or Intel i5-4690K ($319) Thinking i7-4790 as the good middle ground... but is it worth it over the i5-4690K for my needs?
Motherboard: Asus H97M-E ($129) (Really open to suggestions on a good/cheap Mobo)
Ram: Kingston Hyper X Fury HX318C10FBK2/16 16GB (2x8GB) Black ($195)
Case: Existing Carillon AC-1 (looks like this http://www.carillonac1.com/core-1.html)
PSU: Existing? I think 300w... It's quite old... I think a new one may be in order.
Storage 1: Kingston Hyper X Fury 120GB SSD ($78) (Presume there is signifcant benefit in using the SSD for OS/Apps?)
Storage 2: Western Digital Green EZRX 3TB SATA3 ($129) or Western Digital Red EFRX 3TB SATA3 ($163)
Storage 3: Existing WD 3TB External
Storage 4: Existing WD 3TB External
Optical: Existing LG DVD R/W
Graphics Card: Asus 2GB GT610 ($54) (Really open to suggestions on a good/cheap Graphic card, must have dual outputs though)
Monitor 1: BenQ GL2460 24" 2ms ($179)
Monitor 2: Existing Toshiba HDMI TV 40in?

Cost: $1,083 to $1,267 or so.

Thanks in advance.

I think a build like this will work well:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($108.00 @ IJK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($178.00 @ IJK)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($95.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($130.00 @ IJK)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R7 265 2GB Video Card ($169.00 @ CPL Online)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($78.00 @ CPL Online)
Total: $1097.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-05 18:46 EST+1100
I couldn't find the monitor you were looking at for $179, though. PCPartPicker's Australian price database isn't very extensive.

1. The Xeon E3-1231 v3 processor offers specs and performance similar to the i7 4790 but at a much lower price point. Looking at the official specs from Intel, they are both hyperthreading quad core processors, the Xeon just lacks integrated graphics and is clocked slightly slower.

2. The ASRock motherboard should handle your needs, it seems to have few negative user reviews on Newegg and is cheaper than the Asus model you had in mind.

3. That kit of 16GB G.Skill RAM is rated for the same specs (1866MHz and CL10 latency) but costs less. Can't really go wrong there with cheaper yet equally spec'd RAM.

4. WD Green drives aren't recommended due to outstanding issues with the power-saving features, mostly excessively frequent head parking. WD Red are intended for NAS or similar intensive tasks, and are priced a bit high for the storage they provide, but I suppose if you want the extra features then you could pay more for it. The Toshiba model I chose offers decent specs (7200RPM, 64MB cache, etc) for a low price.

Anyway, I was able to fit a R7 265 for moderate gaming and a 500 watt power supply into the above for just under $1100. With the $179 monitor you chose, that should be just about $1280.
 

NEO0MJ

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Hey there. What limitations should I keep in mind when using a small case? I'm planning to build something using the Silverstone MLO7 or the RVZ01.
 

Rich!

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My GTX 970 is here!! Based prime delivery, I only ordered it last night

Off to work now though, will try it later. Hopefully it won't conflict with the AMD drivers and I can just uninstall them easily
 
If my PC has a GTX 750 short card, is there anything I need to take into account before upgrading to a GTX 960? Other than the size difference.

Sorry, brand new to pc gaming, and it's my first decent set up. Always just bought PCs as is.
 

RGM79

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Hey there. What limitations should I keep in mind when using a small case? I'm planning to build something using the Silverstone MLO7 or the RVZ01.

You will probably have to opt for Silverstone's 600 watt SFF modular power supply for best results. Check graphics card length and CPU cooler size.

My GTX 970 is here!! Based prime delivery, I only ordered it last night

Off to work now though, will try it later. Hopefully it won't conflict with the AMD drivers and I can just uninstall them easily

Use Display Driver Uninstaller to help you remove all traces of old drivers, it's quite handy and is pretty much automated.

If my PC has a GTX 750 short card, is there anything I need to take into account before upgrading to a GTX 960? Other than the size difference.

Sorry, brand new to pc gaming, and it's my first decent set up. Always just bought PCs as is.

Maybe what model of power supply you have and what wattage it is capable of.
 
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