"I Need a New PC!" 2015 Part 1. Read the OP and RISE ABOVE FORGED PRECISION SCIENCE
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BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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Building a pc specifically for for emulation, where do I start? Can someone recommend me a build?
Cirekiller
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In my opinion it's all about what your budget is, and what you want out of the card. The 980ti is definitely the best "bang for your buck" all around card at the moment. From the looks of it, in a couple of years there will be some games that will tax a 970 on ultra settings, while at 1080p a 980ti will probably never break a sweat. And it gives you the option to upgrade to 1440p if you ever want to, and it'll still run smooth. If you can afford the extra few hundred dollars I'd say get a card that will last you much longer.
Nah son, they just haven't discovered the glory of downsampling.
pantsattack
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Any "yeas" or "nays" on the Silverstone Sugo 11? I'm looking for a cube/shoebox shaped case to fit inside my desk for matx with a DVD drive (Yes, I use it for ripping every week). I have a weird home theater case that requires a SFX powersupply, can't fit large cards and must be severely disassembled to get work done inside.
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=535
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=535
Any feedback on this build? Would VR be at all possible?
4th Generation Intel (R) Core(TM) i7-5820K processor hexa-core [3.3GHz, 15MB Shared Cache]
16GB DDR4-2133 DIMM (2x8GB) RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 4GB GDDR5 FH GFX
256GB SATA 2.5 TLC Solid State Drive
2TB 7200 RPM SATA 6G Hard Drive
HP Wireless 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac 2x2 with Bluetooth M.2 Non-vPro NIC
SuperMulti DVD Burner
This comes to $1268 after tax and rebate.
Thoughts?
4th Generation Intel (R) Core(TM) i7-5820K processor hexa-core [3.3GHz, 15MB Shared Cache]
16GB DDR4-2133 DIMM (2x8GB) RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 4GB GDDR5 FH GFX
256GB SATA 2.5 TLC Solid State Drive
2TB 7200 RPM SATA 6G Hard Drive
HP Wireless 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac 2x2 with Bluetooth M.2 Non-vPro NIC
SuperMulti DVD Burner
This comes to $1268 after tax and rebate.
Thoughts?
Are you buying a prebuilt PC? It does meet the minimum requirements for Oculus Rift and then some, but some things are odd, like the fact that it has 2x8GB RAM and an HP wireless adaptor?
How much do you want to spend, and what are you emulating, exactly? Retro emulation can be achieved with low cost parts, but PS2 and Gamecube/Wii will require more oomph.
It's a great price consider the cost of components alone, I can't deny that. A similarly equipped parts list will be hundreds of dollars more expensive, not even counting case, power supply, and the cost of Windows. Just be aware that prebuilt PCs often have limited expandability, the motherboards are sometimes deficient in terms of features and overclocking ability, the power supplies are usually weak and barely support more than what the PC ships with, and so on.
Thanks for your reply.
This is the motherboard:
http://support.hp.com/us-en/product...-desktop-pc-series/7779683/document/c04525350
And I believe the power supply is a Delta 500W.
Also, according to the product page, it is liquid cooled, which I assume is good.
http://store.hp.com/us/en/mdp/deskt...52&siteid=je6NUbpObpQ-RTzR86hYZ0oYONDVc6ZYYg#
This is the motherboard:
http://support.hp.com/us-en/product...-desktop-pc-series/7779683/document/c04525350
And I believe the power supply is a Delta 500W.
Also, according to the product page, it is liquid cooled, which I assume is good.
http://store.hp.com/us/en/mdp/deskt...52&siteid=je6NUbpObpQ-RTzR86hYZ0oYONDVc6ZYYg#
That's not the right motherboard. Can you just link us to the computer's product page? The computer itself should have some kind of HP model number.
Sorry. It's this one:
http://store.hp.com/us/en/Configure...252&siteid=lw9MynSeamY-2yRu8dKgzUDr7RWBL3FmRw
There's a coupon and rebate that make it cheap like the price I put above.
http://store.hp.com/us/en/Configure...252&siteid=lw9MynSeamY-2yRu8dKgzUDr7RWBL3FmRw
There's a coupon and rebate that make it cheap like the price I put above.
Nothing wrong with a good deal, but yes, it seems that it would be limited when it comes to overclocking. In the future, whenever you upgrade the PC just consider that you'll probably have to replace the power supply as well.
That's probably fine. I'm not sure how much overclocking I need. FYI my current gaming machine is from 2003, and I actually game on it quite regularly. Plays the Hotline Miamis quite well.
Also, on the Oculus Rift requirements page, these 2 bullets are listed:
2x USB 3.0 ports
HDMI 1.3 video output supporting a 297MHz clock via a direct output architecture
How do I check that this machine covers those?
Also, on the Oculus Rift requirements page, these 2 bullets are listed:
2x USB 3.0 ports
HDMI 1.3 video output supporting a 297MHz clock via a direct output architecture
How do I check that this machine covers those?
Most new computers should have more than two USB 3.0 ports, no worries there. The phrasing "direct output architecture" just means that some laptops won't work well for oculus rift because laptop HDMI ports usually aren't straight from the discrete graphics chipset but are somehow tied into integrated graphics.
appaws
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Yep. I picked up a Define S and I like it a lot. Sort of a blank slate for my water cooling setup. They are both excellent cases.
I agree with Cirekiller. I don't really believe in the idea of "overkill" being a real thing. If you have the money, then why not...? It will give you options down the road.
if the price difference doesn't matter to you, go for the 980 ti.
nvidia DSR or some other form of downsampling will let you put that extra horsepower to use, even on a 1080p monitor. you can render games at 1440p - 4k and downscale them to fit your 1080p display. Aliasing will be a lot less noticeable and the picture quality in general will be better than native 1080p
I use DSR all the time with my 970, playing through bioshock 1 right now rendered at 4k on my 1080p monitor and it's beautiful.
Thanks for that. If I do go through with this configuration what monitor should I pick up? I don't think I need over 1080p. Is G-Sync something I should pursue?
Sorry, I'm not much of a monitor guy, hopefully the other guys have recommendations. It'll also depend on how much you're willing to spend on a monitor.
How large is the cooler? I'd probably mount it in the rear 120mm mount. According to the specs, the front and rear are designed with clearance for water radiators, the top may not have enough clearance with the motherboard to accommodate the thickness of a radiator and fan.
Looking for a bit of advise.
Just regarding monitors. I have 2 of these just now http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B005OPLG0O/
I am looking to upgrade to a 144hz monitor so was going to pick this up as its only £200 just now http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00B19T7QC/
What I would like to know is that is it possible to run a 144hz monitor along with a 60hz monitor as i am only going to be replacing one monitor just now?
Will the 60hz one hold back the 144hz one in any way?
Just regarding monitors. I have 2 of these just now http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B005OPLG0O/
I am looking to upgrade to a 144hz monitor so was going to pick this up as its only £200 just now http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00B19T7QC/
What I would like to know is that is it possible to run a 144hz monitor along with a 60hz monitor as i am only going to be replacing one monitor just now?
Will the 60hz one hold back the 144hz one in any way?
I run 120 and a 60. You are fine.
StarlordDial
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Hmmm Really having a dillema here choosing between an 850 evo or a pro
Between 500gb ad 512gb ssd card
I know the differnece between them in speed is minor but there are really areas that pro outshines the evo .. But overall in a price to performance ratio , evo beats out the pro.
But since i'm using the samsung of either version as my system/windows drive, i think it's be i stick with evo right ?
Im probably gonna use my bx100 as my games/music and everything else and the difference would be not that noticeable anyway i'm hoping
Between 500gb ad 512gb ssd card
I know the differnece between them in speed is minor but there are really areas that pro outshines the evo .. But overall in a price to performance ratio , evo beats out the pro.
But since i'm using the samsung of either version as my system/windows drive, i think it's be i stick with evo right ?
Im probably gonna use my bx100 as my games/music and everything else and the difference would be not that noticeable anyway i'm hoping
The pro also have a longer life. And, more importantly, you don't have to worry about possibly speed slow down over time and requiring a firmware update to hopefully fix.
StarlordDial
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So any advice though ? Should i put my samsung pro as my gaming/music/ etc drive or the bx100 instead ?
Edit: probably kept asking the same question again but i just want it to be definitive now -and stick with it
Posting again for a new page, really need to know if the case/PSU are suitable for what I have planned.
These are the specs I'm looking to get...
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/9GxYK8
Ignore the case however, as the case I do actually want is this, but it wasnt on this site. http://www.scan.co.uk/products/aerocool-x-predator-x1-evil-all-black-gaming-case-120mm-orange-led-quiet-fan-w-o-psu
Problem is I'm not sure if my proposed components will fit. Other question is the PSU. Should I be wanting a Full or Semi PSU? And similar question to above, would it fit in this case? Really open to suggestions about the case/PSU.
Appreciate any help
These are the specs I'm looking to get...
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/9GxYK8
Ignore the case however, as the case I do actually want is this, but it wasnt on this site. http://www.scan.co.uk/products/aerocool-x-predator-x1-evil-all-black-gaming-case-120mm-orange-led-quiet-fan-w-o-psu
Problem is I'm not sure if my proposed components will fit. Other question is the PSU. Should I be wanting a Full or Semi PSU? And similar question to above, would it fit in this case? Really open to suggestions about the case/PSU.
Appreciate any help
Thanks i ended up just buying two of them. Get ocd with it and need to have the same ones. Also picked up disply port cables as i think i need them for it. Will be running it with my 980 ti
. Also been looking at wireless a wireless gaming headset as my wired ones are old and the wires for it just get in the way. Thinking of getting the corsair h2100 anyone used them?
See if you can get a discount by buying a H97 board, as there are high end luxury H97 boards that are priced like cheap Z97s and you really shouldn't go into a 4970k with a overclocking mindset. Really, the 4970k has barely any overhead for overclocking (best case scenario you're looking at 4.7 or 4.8 ghz with the best coolers and the 212 Evo isn't the best cooler) because it's stock speed is already insanely high. Keep the 212 Evo since it's quiet.
Not sure what board you mean if you still mean from Asus, but the ones there had no SLI support, which I may not want now, but I think I want that option open...
Also yeah, not really in the OC mindset for anything I don't think... Possibly GPU if anything. Only went with the fan because I read the stock one wasn't so good.
Thanks for the suggestions/advice however though.
More concerned about my PSU/Case choice atm, but welcome advice like this too
Folks,
Can I have your opinion on this build please!
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/NnBbHx
I'm unsure on the GPU as I'll be gaming @ 1080p.. is a 980 overkill. I'd like to be fairly assured of hitting 60fps on high/ultra settings. The whole VRAM debacle with the 970's is putting me off saving a bit of cash tbh.
Cheers for any help, Shutts
Can I have your opinion on this build please!
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/NnBbHx
I'm unsure on the GPU as I'll be gaming @ 1080p.. is a 980 overkill. I'd like to be fairly assured of hitting 60fps on high/ultra settings. The whole VRAM debacle with the 970's is putting me off saving a bit of cash tbh.
Cheers for any help, Shutts
Thank you!
Need some sage advice on building a new PC. Below are the parts I have, and I'm considering a new case and a GTX 980. Any advice is very appreciated!
Your current specs:
CPU:
Intel Core i7-3770 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
RAM:
16GB
Motherboard:
Gigabyte GA-H77N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard
GPU:
GeForce GTX 650 Ti
PSU:
700 Watts
Case:
CoolerMaster Mini ITX
HDD:
2x2TB
I'm not sure what model exactly (company name/version) the RAM, PSU, or HDDs are.
Budget:
$400-700
Main Use:
4.5 (video games and 3D/model work
Monitor:
Asus VS247H-P 24-Inch
True Resolution: 1920 x 1080
I am going to purchase a second 144Hz monitor once I upgrade my pc (recommendations appreciated)
Games/Applications:
-GTA V
-Witcher 3
-Dragon Age: Inquisition
-Arkham Knight
-Fallout 4 (hopefully)
-WoW/League of Legends
-Google SketchUp (with large detailed files)
Looking to reuse:
Everything but the GPU and the case, I am considering replacing the processor and motherboard if mine are trash and won't hold up.
When will you build:
I would like to get all the pieces together and plug them in before mid-August
Will you be overclocking:
Yes
Thanks again!
Your current specs:
CPU:
Intel Core i7-3770 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
RAM:
16GB
Motherboard:
Gigabyte GA-H77N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard
GPU:
GeForce GTX 650 Ti
PSU:
700 Watts
Case:
CoolerMaster Mini ITX
HDD:
2x2TB
I'm not sure what model exactly (company name/version) the RAM, PSU, or HDDs are.
Budget:
$400-700
Main Use:
4.5 (video games and 3D/model work
Monitor:
Asus VS247H-P 24-Inch
True Resolution: 1920 x 1080
I am going to purchase a second 144Hz monitor once I upgrade my pc (recommendations appreciated)
Games/Applications:
-GTA V
-Witcher 3
-Dragon Age: Inquisition
-Arkham Knight
-Fallout 4 (hopefully)
-WoW/League of Legends
-Google SketchUp (with large detailed files)
Looking to reuse:
Everything but the GPU and the case, I am considering replacing the processor and motherboard if mine are trash and won't hold up.
When will you build:
I would like to get all the pieces together and plug them in before mid-August
Will you be overclocking:
Yes
Thanks again!
appaws
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I don't think there is any such thing as "overkill" in a GPU. The industry moves fast, games demand more and more and more. So go for the best GPU you can afford at all times. It will also make it easier for you to go for a higher res display if you choose to down the road.
I know nothing about the Node 304 though, so I can't comment on the build in general as far as getting things in there!
Is my CPU fan okay on this side? I've only ever seen it on the other side, but my RAM sticks are too damn high.
Which way does it blow? You don't want it fighting your intake/exhaust fans
I'll try asking one more time.
Would the specs and PSU listed here:
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/9GxYK8
Be compatible with the case here: http://www.scan.co.uk/products/aerocool-x-predator-x1-evil-all-black-gaming-case-120mm-orange-led-quiet-fan-w-o-psu
Would the specs and PSU listed here:
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/9GxYK8
Be compatible with the case here: http://www.scan.co.uk/products/aerocool-x-predator-x1-evil-all-black-gaming-case-120mm-orange-led-quiet-fan-w-o-psu
Is my CPU fan okay on this side? I've only ever seen it on the other side, but my RAM sticks are too damn high.
You can put the RAM sticks into slots 2 and 4 rather than 1 and 3 (check your motherboard manual to make sure), that may give you enough clearance for the fan. You can also mount the fan slightly higher on the cooler to sit just above the inner RAM stick.
Xplatformer
Member
Wait. Isn't the idea to have the fan push the air over the heatsink and to the rear fan so the heat gets taken out of the case? Shouldn't your fan be on the other side?
The Red Wizard
Member
Is anyone able to recommend some good speakers for £30-£50?
Yeah, there shouldn't be any problems at all.
What case and GTX 980 are you looking at getting?
You won't be able to overclock your processor. Only K model processors can be overclocked on Z series motherboards, and you have the i7 3770 instead of the i7 3770K on an H series motherboard. However, the i7 3770 is still a very good processor that should give you more than acceptable performance in nearly everything.
Yes, it works. You'll barely have clearance for the heatsink, but it'll be compatible.
If you flip the fan over you can mount it so that it pulls air through the heatsink from the back, and blows it towards the rear fan and out of the case.
It's just a matter of taking off the mounting hardware, turning the fan over and putting the mounting back on. Then you'll be good to go!
It's just a matter of taking off the mounting hardware, turning the fan over and putting the mounting back on. Then you'll be good to go!
I haven't decided on which GTX 980 I'm getting, not really sure what the differences are between them. The case I currently have is just really small and overheats quite often, I was thinking something along the lines of Corsair 500R or the Enthoo Pro.
Thanks man. Looking at that link though, it says 158 is the limit, and the cooler is actually slightly over...
Changed the fan and found a case on there which looks very similar to the case I want, maybe evne identical,except colour, but can't be sure.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/cHGcLk
Any problems with this build?
Really appreciate the help guys
I would recommend staying with the 212 Evo heatsink, it is much better than the compact heatsink in terms of noise, cooling ability, as well as as being able to handle overclocking. The Aerocool X3 case you chose is wider and will accommodate heatsinks up to 186mm height, so you should definitely go with the larger cooler.
Thanks for the replies regarding my fan, I realised I'd been mounting it wrong this whole time, but took everything apart for the first time (friend put my the rig together for me) and managed to put it all back together in one piece without anything catching fire. Feels good!
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