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"I Need a New PC!" 2015 Part 2. Read the OP. Rocking 2500K's until HBM2 and beyond.
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SeaSonic M12II 620 Bronze 620W
Novum_Veritas
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See for yourself:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/288?vs=1544
But I would say yes.
@Inner-G
Thanks for the picture, seems all pins are ok, it seems there is another fault as you already said.
Copper
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would you say that it is more worth while over upgrading to a 980ti?
Right now I am gaming at 2560x1080 (ultrawide) but I do like to downscale somtimes.
Novum_Veritas
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If you like to downscale much, a 980 Ti would fit you more than a new CPU.
Downscaling depends more on a strong GPU than CPU.
What PSU do you have?
Celcius
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Normally I use Chrome, but then I went to this benchmark: https://dev.windows.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/testdrive/demos/fishbowlie/, selected 2000 fish, and was getting about 34 fps (hardware acceleration enabled).
Since I'm now on Windows 10, I switched over to the Edge browser and the same benchmark with 2000 fish gives me a locked 60 fps. Also, scrolling through picture-heavy threads like "post your pc" or the "pc screenshot thread" is much smoother in Edge.
Is Edge just better than Chrome or am I missing something? What browser do you guys use in Windows 10?
Since I'm now on Windows 10, I switched over to the Edge browser and the same benchmark with 2000 fish gives me a locked 60 fps. Also, scrolling through picture-heavy threads like "post your pc" or the "pc screenshot thread" is much smoother in Edge.
Is Edge just better than Chrome or am I missing something? What browser do you guys use in Windows 10?
Novum_Veritas
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I'm using Google Chrome, tested it with 2000 fishes and all layers on, got solid 60 fps even with Twitch running in the background. I think it has something to do with the GPU or CPU, and not alone on the browser.
Celcius
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I've got a 2600k running at 4.6ghz and a GTX 780 Ti, so I would think that hardware wouldn't be an issue. (plus simply changing the browser improves performance, maybe I'll reinstall chrome)
Novum_Veritas
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I'm running a i5-4670 at stock clock and a 980 Ti. Not sure what the issue is.
It runs well with my system.
Copper
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Manp
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got bored last week and decided to bring some old P4 era motherboard to life... got some new capacitors to replace the older blown ones.
runs fine now with a 3 GHz P4 at full load.
why? i have no idea lol, new caps were probably more expensive than what the whole board+cpu combo is worth
also since i was down the nostalgia lane i got myself an old QX9770+MB on the cheap to get some OC done. put it together with some scrap parts i had around...
runs fine at 4GHz with barely any effort.
crazy to think this was once a 1600 CPU :|
runs fine now with a 3 GHz P4 at full load.
why? i have no idea lol, new caps were probably more expensive than what the whole board+cpu combo is worth
also since i was down the nostalgia lane i got myself an old QX9770+MB on the cheap to get some OC done. put it together with some scrap parts i had around...
runs fine at 4GHz with barely any effort.
crazy to think this was once a 1600 CPU :|
Novum_Veritas
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Ah the newegg own PSU brand, 750w with bronze should be enough for a 980 Ti alright.
You got a brand in mind? Or you need some recommendations?
Celcius
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Firefox runs as good as Edge so I'll switch over to that. (not sure what's up with Chrome not liking my system)
Thanks for the info
Novum_Veritas
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Any reason to chose the 96tin/4silver solder over the 60tin/40lead solder?
The packaging is basically the same and makes it seem like the silver one is just the lead free version. Any tangible differences? Just for making cables and putting switches on a keyboard PCB.
The packaging is basically the same and makes it seem like the silver one is just the lead free version. Any tangible differences? Just for making cables and putting switches on a keyboard PCB.
How old is it???Do you want to overclock both GPU and CPU?How much money are u willing to spend and also what is your Case?
opticalmace
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DarknessTear
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I'm doomed. I don't have a lot of money, and my current motherboard is useless right now. One of my RAM slots is fried, all I have is a single stick of 4gb DDR3 which is a pretty big bottleneck considering the OS I'm using (Windows 10)
I need at least 8GB but my current motherboard (H55H-M model) is a socket LGA1156. The only ones I can find are really expensive so I can't even replace unless I get a new CPU. Argh.
I need at least 8GB but my current motherboard (H55H-M model) is a socket LGA1156. The only ones I can find are really expensive so I can't even replace unless I get a new CPU. Argh.
Are u gonna overclock it to the limit?Overvolt the GPUS?What 1k W PSU is it?
@opticalmace
Although i can speak and write English fluently,its not my native language,i dont know how my "tone" of voice might be written so it may sound angsty....The gif is pretty damn funny though
If you are willing to overclock, the Pentium G3258 will far outperform the G3260 but you will need a decent CPU cooler. It sounds like you already have the G3260? It might just be better to save up and buy an i3 or i5 processor instead. What are your PC's specs?
Other than what was mentioned already, as you're in the EU look for Nanoxia cases.
Yeah, more than enough.
Look for a stick of 8GB RAM to replace your single stick of 4GB?
So, XCOM 2 is coming out, and after many, many years, I want to build a PC again.
I really want to get a mini ATX, and don't want to spend a lot while following the game's recommended specs:
I loosely followed Hazaro's guide, and came up with this. http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/2sxFQ7
It feels like I'm taking shots in the dark, though. But I like the WiFi on the MB.
Is the build any good? Can I go lower (specs/price) while respecting xcom2's recommended specs?
Thanks guys and gals!
I really want to get a mini ATX, and don't want to spend a lot while following the game's recommended specs:
I loosely followed Hazaro's guide, and came up with this. http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/2sxFQ7
It feels like I'm taking shots in the dark, though. But I like the WiFi on the MB.
Is the build any good? Can I go lower (specs/price) while respecting xcom2's recommended specs?
Thanks guys and gals!
The GPU u have put is less powerful than the reccommended one..770>950 by a lot...CA prices are abyssmal though. What is your budget limit?
DarknessTear
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Supposedly this motherboard only supports 2 sticks of 4gb not a single stick of 8gb.
I don't know if true though. :/
So, I followed GAFs advice and ended with this:
I do not know what to do except buy a bigger case
You can also buy a smaller PSU. I don't know your needs, but for Micro ATX builds like yours, a 550w should be more than ok, even with heavier GPU than a 970. And they are 3 to 4 cm smaller than your current PSU
Anything much above 1k probably wouldn't go very well with the girlfriend, but with our shitty dollar, I'm not sure it's attainable.
How would a 960 do?
Still the 770 is better by a small margin.Think of it something like that.The 970 is the replacement for 770 and the 960 is the replacement for 760.U need something like R9 390 or GTX 970 ....I dont really know the real practical requirements but if u wanna be the same as the reccommended ur choice is the r9 390 or GTX 970 though they are expensive in Canada
For better price to performance, I recommend this instead:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($248.74 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Biostar Hi-Fi B85S3+ Ver. 6.x Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Team Dark 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($48.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($108.05 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380 4GB PCS+ Video Card ($291.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($41.99 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.88 @ Canada Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($123.00 @ shopRBC)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN881ND 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($19.99 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $1022.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-09 17:02 EST-0500
It costs about $50 less, but offers a stronger graphics card. Unless you really need the DVD drive, it's not necessary.
Ah. I don't know how much you can afford to spend, but you could consider buying a used stick of RAM or look around local computer shops..
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Can someone recommend me an external soundcard? I want to be able to switch between headphones and speakers (2.0) without unplugging neither
Unknown Soldier
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If you tell us how much money you have, that would go a long way toward us helping you figure out what you can get with your budget.
Unknown Soldier
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I might be one of the last people building gaming PCs like this which still use pure aircooling. The cable management gets pretty messy when you've got fans everywhere too, I'm just going to pretend that this completed machine doesn't have a rat's nest hiding behind the motherboard tray out of sight. You can see a few cables at the bottom of the case peeking out from the rat's nest. :3
Novum_Veritas
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Components are good though, Corsair PSU and Noctua fans are good.
What case is that? Seems to be a rather cheap one, when it has the slot for the PSU at the top and not on the bottom like all new cases.
Chris Remo
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Hey folks! I haven't made any big changes to my PC in a while, but last night I downloaded Just Cause 3 and realized that at some point this rig fell out of being able to "just run everything." Even with options turned down my framerate is not so good.
I don't do as much graphically-demanding gaming as I used to but I would like to be able to upgrade or potentially just rebuild to a machine that will take what current games can throw at it, and be good for another few years.
I'm out of the loop really. I spent a few hours today browsing through this thread, PC Part Picker, and NewEgg, but any feedback from the more knowledgeable folks here would be great.
Here's my current info:
Your Current Specs: i5 750 (2.66GHz), 4x4GB RAM, ASUS P7P55D, GeForce GTX 560 Ti
Budget: I probably don't want to go past $800.
Main Use: Gaming
Monitor Resolution: My main monitor died and right now I'm using a ViewSonic piece of crap with a max res of 1680x1050. I will probably by a new monitor, either now or in the near future.
Looking to reuse any parts?: Depends if anything I have is worth keeping, I guess. I don't really know. It looks like my motherboard is old enough that there aren't a lot of choices in terms of new CPU.
- My Windows install is on this 80GB Intel SSD currently: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167016 Not really sure how to identify if it's "good" or not.
- I don't need a new case, I'm happy to rebuild inside of my current one.
- I don't need a new optical drive, I have an internal Blu-ray drive that I'm sure is fine.
- I'm also PRETTY confident that my existing power supply is fine as well. It's some kind of Seasonic modular thing. I guess I should figure out how much power draw it supports.
When will you build?: Really soon.
Will you be overclocking?: Probably not? I don't know much about it anymore.
I don't do as much graphically-demanding gaming as I used to but I would like to be able to upgrade or potentially just rebuild to a machine that will take what current games can throw at it, and be good for another few years.
I'm out of the loop really. I spent a few hours today browsing through this thread, PC Part Picker, and NewEgg, but any feedback from the more knowledgeable folks here would be great.
Here's my current info:
Your Current Specs: i5 750 (2.66GHz), 4x4GB RAM, ASUS P7P55D, GeForce GTX 560 Ti
Budget: I probably don't want to go past $800.
Main Use: Gaming
Monitor Resolution: My main monitor died and right now I'm using a ViewSonic piece of crap with a max res of 1680x1050. I will probably by a new monitor, either now or in the near future.
Looking to reuse any parts?: Depends if anything I have is worth keeping, I guess. I don't really know. It looks like my motherboard is old enough that there aren't a lot of choices in terms of new CPU.
- My Windows install is on this 80GB Intel SSD currently: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167016 Not really sure how to identify if it's "good" or not.
- I don't need a new case, I'm happy to rebuild inside of my current one.
- I don't need a new optical drive, I have an internal Blu-ray drive that I'm sure is fine.
- I'm also PRETTY confident that my existing power supply is fine as well. It's some kind of Seasonic modular thing. I guess I should figure out how much power draw it supports.
When will you build?: Really soon.
Will you be overclocking?: Probably not? I don't know much about it anymore.
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Hi all. Ignore this question if silly (I haven't read much of this thread outside of the OP, so just mock me if I'm asking a super common question), but is the "excellent - best overall" build still a good buy post-Xmas / etc?
opticalmace
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This is the best i can do....The 390 is a strong card that can play anything.Since you dont overclock i used the non overclockable cpu and also we cant afford to put Skylake i think....If u dont like the 390 we can go to nvidia GTX 970.
Wait for a second opinion just to be sure
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI H97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($88.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 390 8GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($274.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair SPEC-03 White ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.78 @ OutletPC)
Total: $826.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-09 18:38 EST-0500
If u want with Skylake
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus H170-PLUS D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($82.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 390 8GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($274.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair SPEC-03 White ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.78 @ OutletPC)
Total: $830.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-09 18:42 EST-0500
Chris Remo
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Thanks a lot for the reply!! A couple clarifications that I should have made in my original post:
I don't need a new case, I'm happy to rebuild inside of my current one. And I don't need a new optical drive, I have an internal Blu-ray drive that I'm sure is fine. I'm also PRETTY confident that my existing power supply is fine as well. It's some kind of Seasonic modular thing. I guess I should figure out how much power draw it supports.
Unknown Soldier
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Ahahaha, that's my 8-years young Cooler Master HAF 932. You'll find it hard to get a case with better airflow even today.
The PSU does go on the bottom of this case by default. However it's designed so you can easily move the PSU to the top as I did. This case previously held an SLI setup years ago and I moved it up there so it didn't get in the way of airflow to the video cards. I never bothered to move it back, it was fine where it is and I didn't want to reroute all my cables again.
So I have a friend who wants to get ready for Rift. She doesn't want to spend a lot of money on a card and has AMD FX CPU. Is their an AMD CPU she can use that is powerful enough to run it?
I already suggested a new MB for a intel processor and a 970 at least, but she's an AMD girl, so any suggestions? Her GPU is a 280, so i already told her she needs a 380 at least.
I already suggested a new MB for a intel processor and a 970 at least, but she's an AMD girl, so any suggestions? Her GPU is a 280, so i already told her she needs a 380 at least.
I would suggest buying a new one...I am pretty sure it cant be more than 550w plus if u have it at least 3 years it lost part of its Wattage.Can you tell me what is your case?
What FX cpu does she have?Does she have a cpu cooler?Is she willing to overclock?What is her PSU?
Celcius
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Novum_Veritas
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Not bad, and that's true most cases only have the option to install the PSU on the bottom and not on the top or bottom.
One of the reasons you see all the cables still hehe
A six core FX 6300. And yes she does have one. Her PSU is 700watts and she doesnt know about overclocking but i could do that.
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If we get a GTX 970 or R9 390 it might bottleneck even if it is slightly overclocked.She might see performance dips but i think it might be ok.Bear in mind that she could have better performance even with an i3 propably.She will certainly get better performance but it would be much nicer to sell the system and get a new Intel one.
But if she still wants to do it she can buy one of these and try to overclock the CPU
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-04gp43975kr
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-video-card-r9390p8256
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-100382ntoc2l
Novum_Veritas
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It was the board, GAF! Got an ASUS and it booted right up
GG I would say, good man I bought the same Corsair 200R
You got a ASUS Z170 Pro Gaming?
I recommend to update the BIOS, board can a little bit flunky without those.
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