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"I Need a New PC!" 2015 Part 2. Read the OP. Rocking 2500K's until HBM2 and beyond.

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Finaika

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Can someone pass judgement on this before I pull the trigger at NCIX?

GPU: GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 970 OC 1253 MHz 4GB 7.0GHZ

CPU: INTEL® CORE™ I7-6700K

CASE: Fractal R5

SSD: Crucial MX200 250GB

STORAGE: Blue 1tb

COOLING: Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H105

MOTHERBOARD: ASUS Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Z170

POWER SUPPLY: Coolermaster V750

MEMORY: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB 2X8GB 2133MHZ DDR4

MONITOR: Rog Swift

That's a beast.
 
Can someone pass judgement on this before I pull the trigger at NCIX?

GPU: GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 970 OC 1253 MHz 4GB 7.0GHZ

CPU: INTEL® CORE™ I7-6700K

CASE: Fractal R5

SSD: Crucial MX200 250GB

STORAGE: Blue 1tb

COOLING: Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H105

MOTHERBOARD: ASUS Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Z170

POWER SUPPLY: Coolermaster V750

MEMORY: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB 2X8GB 2133MHZ DDR4

MONITOR: Rog Swift

Could you provide a PC partpicker list? It would be easier to evaluate. I would probably make a few changes, depending on what the prices are. Are you going to overclock?
 
Could you provide a PC partpicker list? It would be easier to evaluate. I would probably make a few changes, depending on what the prices are. Are you going to overclock?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($398.50 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H105 73.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($103.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($153.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE 3X Video Card ($324.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Cooler Master 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($87.95 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-AC68 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($82.96 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus ROG SWIFT PG278Q 144Hz 27.0" Monitor ($669.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $2191.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-26 00:45 EST-0500
 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($398.50 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H105 73.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($103.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($153.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE 3X Video Card ($324.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Cooler Master 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($87.95 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-AC68 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($82.96 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus ROG SWIFT PG278Q 144Hz 27.0" Monitor ($669.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $2191.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-26 00:45 EST-0500

I'm heading to bed but if no one has helped you by tomorrow I will give you some suggestions. It can definitely be improved a bit.
 

Smokey

Member
Open to suggestions, don't want to balloon the price a ton though, is there a way I can save in other areas to make room for a 980 or whatever?

What's a ton

Are you willing to upgrade to the Nvidia Pascal chips later this year? If so then I would keep the 970. The thing is you have the 970 paired with a 1440p, 144hz monitor. You're going to be leaving some frames on the table here, but if you're willing to turn down settings on a game to game basis you'll be fine.

If you are getting the 970 as a stop gap until the Pascal cards later this year, I'd agree with that. What types of games do you play?
 

RGM79

Member
Im incredibly anxious to buy separate parts... also I should have said that I live in Canada -_- I just looked at the different price of the GeForce GTX 970, it's 309$ US for 479$ Canadian WHAT THE FUCK.... it's half of what I was thinking of paying....

So since the Canadian dollar is so low, buying a GeForce GTX 970 is the price of a PS4 here, so I might consider this for the time being.... because I am super hyped about The Witness but im pretty sure my computer can't run it. The only sad thing is I already bought all these games in discount for when I will have a decent PC... PS4 will only be for exclusive... arrrrhhh decision... why is the GeForce GTX 970 cost 450$ here!!!!

Here's an example build for $1000 Canadian while you weigh your options. Price doesn't include shipping or taxes as PCPartPicker doesn't know where you are and can't automatically account for that, of course.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($263.50 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($73.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: A-Data XPG V2 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.98 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.50 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($413.50 @ Vuugo)
Case: Silverstone PS08B (Black) MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.88 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $983.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-26 01:03 EST-0500

Been gaming on consoles for ages now but after reading about 144hz/Gsync gaming the past couple of weeks I’ve decided to go all in. GAF I need your help building a monster rig!
Your Current Specs: None
Budget: $2500
Main Use: Gaming 5. Emulation 3.
Monitor Resolution: Definitely need a monitor since I have none. Thinking 1440p 144 hz plus G-Sync.
Hoping to build a rig that can run anything currently out at max setting at 1440p. Parts I’ve been considering are Geforce GTX 980ti, i7 processor at 4.0 ghz. Hoping to build early February and I have no desire to overclock
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Something like this should work well:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($398.50 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($115.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($87.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($150.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB FTW ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($639.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($87.95 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus ROG SWIFT PG278Q 144Hz 27.0" Monitor ($669.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $2397.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-26 01:12 EST-0500

Open to suggestions, don't want to balloon the price a ton though, is there a way I can save in other areas to make room for a 980 or whatever?

You could get a cheaper air cooler that's similarly effective, a less expensive motherboard, faster RAM for less money, a cheaper and arguably better power supply, a wifi adaptor that isn't overpriced, among other changes. It's a modification of the above parts list. Here's what I recommend:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($398.50 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($115.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($87.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB FTW ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($639.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($87.95 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($29.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus ROG SWIFT PG278Q 144Hz 27.0" Monitor ($669.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $2294.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-26 01:18 EST-0500

It's $100 more, but you're getting a far stronger graphics card. Alternatively follow Smokey's advice if you want to wait for Nvidia's Pascal graphics cards. Also, seeing as you seem to be planning to buy your parts at NCIX, remember that they have a price matching policy. If you see the exact same item being sold for a lower price elsewhere, get them to match it and save yourself some more money.
 
It's $100 more, but you're getting a far stronger graphics card. Alternatively follow Smokey's advice if you want to wait for Nvidia's Pascal graphics cards. Also, seeing as you seem to be planning to buy your parts at NCIX, remember that they have a price matching policy. If you see the exact same item being sold for a lower price elsewhere, get them to match it and save yourself some more money.

This is really great. Thanks, I'll go with this.

Is there a G-SYNC monitor that is actually reliable for color work?
 

Garou

Member
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($398.50 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H105 73.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($103.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($153.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE 3X Video Card ($324.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Cooler Master 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($87.95 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-AC68 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($82.96 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus ROG SWIFT PG278Q 144Hz 27.0" Monitor ($669.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $2191.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-26 00:45 EST-0500

Spending 2000+$ on a system and crippling the whole thing with a mechanical hard drive instead of a SSD is a crime.
 

Instro

Member
There seems to be some sort of weird humming/sound resonance going on with my HDDs in the lower bay area. Bitfenix Shinobi case...I imagine all the metal on metal in the bay area is part of the problem, and in general i recall not being super impressed with the screws and interior securing mechanisms of the case when I built this several years ago.

Anyway, any thoughts on how to deal with this? The vibration seems to be generated by my WD Black drive, maybe I just need to do a thorough cleaning.
 

RGM79

Member
There seems to be some sort of weird humming/sound resonance going on with my HDDs in the lower bay area. Bitfenix Shinobi case...I imagine all the metal on metal in the bay area is part of the problem, and in general i recall not being super impressed with the screws and interior securing mechanisms of the case when I built this several years ago.

Anyway, any thoughts on how to deal with this? The vibration seems to be generated by my WD Black drive, maybe I just need to do a thorough cleaning.

WD Black drives are somewhat known for producing more noise, I guess more vibrations could also be a byproduct. It may also be the tool-less locking mechanisms for the hard drive bays. You could pop off the tool-less locks and use screws instead for a tighter fit, if I'm not mistaken. Securing hard drives with rubber bands is another solution.
 

Wilester

Member
Hey guys, I'm looking to put together a mid-range PC. Aiming for 60fps/1080p on new AAA games. Any massive problems with this setup? It's been about 7 years since my last build. Still rocking a first gen i5 and GTX275!


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£199.96 @ More Computers)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170MX-Gaming 5 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£131.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£76.73 @ More Computers)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£148.64 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card (£321.24 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Thermaltake Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£46.74 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Total: £925.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-26 07:33 GMT+0000
 

RGM79

Member
Hey guys, I'm looking to put together a mid-range PC. Aiming for 60fps/1080p on new AAA games. Any massive problems with this setup? It's been about 7 years since my last build. Still rocking a first gen i5 and GTX275!


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£199.96 @ More Computers)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170MX-Gaming 5 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£131.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£76.73 @ More Computers)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£148.64 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card (£321.24 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Thermaltake Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£46.74 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Total: £925.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-26 07:33 GMT+0000

Not bad, but there are changes you can make for better overall parts. The Hyper 212 Plus is a decent cooler but it's also old. Instead of 4x4GB, you want 2x8GB. There's no benefit to getting four smaller sticks of RAM as opposed to two sticks, and going with two larger sticks of RAM leaves you with the option to add more RAM in the future (not that most people need more than 16GB). The Samsung 840 Evo is discontinued and expensive. I mean, £150 is more than enough to get you the 500GB version of the newer Samsung 850 Evo. There are better power supplies than the Corsair CX line, which are Corsair's lowest end models. Also, you must have noticed that PCPartPicker cannot find a UK retailer listed for the power supply and CPU cooler. Skinflint.co.uk is recommended as a shopping comparison website if you're buying parts in the UK

This is what I recommend, it's based on your parts list with changes made for better cost and equal if not slightly better parts (especially RAM, SSD, CPU cooler, and PSU).

http://imgur.com/gV3SZhB
1 x Samsung SSD 850 Evo 500GB, SATA (MZ-75E500B)
1 x Intel Core i5-6600K, 4x 3.50GHz, boxed without cooler (BX80662I56600K)
1 x G.Skill RipJaws V black DIMM kit 16GB, DDR4-3000, CL15-16-16-35 (F4-3000C15D-16GVGB)
1 x ASUS STRIX-GTX970-DC2OC-4GD5, GeForce GTX 970, 4GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort (90YV07F0-M0NA00)
1 x ASRock Z170M Extreme4 (90-MXB0X0-A0UAYZ)
1 x Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
1 x Thermaltake Core V21 with side panel window (CA-1D5-00S1WN-00)
1 x EVGA 650 GQ 650W ATX 2.3 (210-GQ-0650)
Total of all best prices: £ 894.74
 
So here I am.
A complete PC virgin who knows fuck all about PC gaming.
Components, lingo, software, I know NOTHING!
But I want in Gaf.
So help an idiot out.
Im aware of the op survey but even that is pointless in my case as like I said I have no idea what i even need nor any frame of reference in regards to brands.

The best I can do is list my budget and what Id like to accomplish as well as the types of games id like to play with the benchmarks id like to hit.
So here it is.
Budget wise im looking to spend $850.00.
As for the usage id say gamings a 5 and emulation a 3.
As for standards all I want is to hit 1080/60 on pretty much anything thats out today.
To list a few games id throw out Dragons Dogma, Fallout 3/4/NV, and id like to run mods for days.
On that emulation front I had PS2/GC games in mind.
So help a know nothing console gamer get into PC gaming gaf, and be gentle,its my first time.
 

Wilester

Member
Not bad, but there are changes you can make for better overall parts. The Hyper 212 Plus is a decent cooler but it's also old. Instead of 4x4GB, you want 2x8GB. There's no benefit to getting four smaller sticks of RAM as opposed to two sticks, and going with two larger sticks of RAM leaves you with the option to add more RAM in the future (not that most people need more than 16GB). The Samsung 840 Evo is discontinued and expensive. I mean, £150 is more than enough to get you the 500GB version of the newer Samsung 850 Evo. There are better power supplies than the Corsair CX line, which are Corsair's lowest end models. Also, you must have noticed that PCPartPicker cannot find a UK retailer listed for the power supply and CPU cooler. Skinflint.co.uk is recommended as a shopping comparison website if you're buying parts in the UK

This is what I recommend, it's based on your parts list with changes made for better cost and equal if not slightly better parts (especially RAM, SSD, CPU cooler, and PSU).

http://imgur.com/gV3SZhB
1 x Samsung SSD 850 Evo 500GB, SATA (MZ-75E500B)
1 x Intel Core i5-6600K, 4x 3.50GHz, boxed without cooler (BX80662I56600K)
1 x G.Skill RipJaws V black DIMM kit 16GB, DDR4-3000, CL15-16-16-35 (F4-3000C15D-16GVGB)
1 x ASUS STRIX-GTX970-DC2OC-4GD5, GeForce GTX 970, 4GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort (90YV07F0-M0NA00)
1 x ASRock Z170M Extreme4 (90-MXB0X0-A0UAYZ)
1 x Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
1 x Thermaltake Core V21 with side panel window (CA-1D5-00S1WN-00)
1 x EVGA 650 GQ 650W ATX 2.3 (210-GQ-0650)
Total of all best prices: £ 894.74

That's for that. Really appreciate it. You think it can handle my 1080/60 expectations?
 
Quick question, is there any advantages to using DDR4 over DDR3?

Im going an i7 skylake, with 980ti build. The thing is, i want 32GB RAM, looking at 3600Mhz. Also the motherboard 7170-a is only a dual channel setup, any good board recommendations for ddr4 quad channel
 
Quick question, is there any advantages to using DDR4 over DDR3?

Im going an i7 skylake, with 980ti build. The thing is, i want 32GB RAM, looking at 3600Mhz. Also the motherboard 7170-a is only a dual channel setup, any good board recommendations for ddr4 quad channel

With Skylake you pretty much have to use DDR4 (ignoring some special DDR3 ram that you can use, which you shouldn't anyway).

3600 is in the realm of diminishing returns. I would go for DDR4-3000 or DDR4-3200 at most. All Skylake boards are dual channel, but normally in 2 pairs of 2 (for 4 slots total). X99 (Haswell-E) is quad channel.

I assume you meant Z170-A when you listed that motherboard?
 

bomblord1

Banned
So here I am.
A complete PC virgin who knows fuck all about PC gaming.
Components, lingo, software, I know NOTHING!
But I want in Gaf.
So help an idiot out.
Im aware of the op survey but even that is pointless in my case as like I said I have no idea what i even need nor any frame of reference in regards to brands.

The best I can do is list my budget and what Id like to accomplish as well as the types of games id like to play with the benchmarks id like to hit.
So here it is.
Budget wise im looking to spend $850.00.
As for the usage id say gamings a 5 and emulation a 3.
As for standards all I want is to hit 1080/60 on pretty much anything thats out today.
To list a few games id throw out Dragons Dogma, Fallout 3/4/NV, and id like to run mods for days.
On that emulation front I had PS2/GC games in mind.
So help a know nothing console gamer get into PC gaming gaf, and be gentle,its my first time.

Now when you say 1080/60 do you mean on ultra? Also emulators take more power than just about any game out today on the CPU front.
 
With Skylake you pretty much have to use DDR4 (ignoring some special DDR3 ram that you can use, which you shouldn't anyway).

3600 is in the realm of diminishing returns. I would go for DDR4-3000 or DDR4-3200 at most. All Skylake boards are dual channel, but normally in 2 pairs of 2 (for 4 slots total). X99 (Haswell-E) is quad channel.

I assume you meant Z170-A when you listed that motherboard?

sorry when i was looking at the board specs, so 4 slots seems solid I will get 4x8gb ddr4.

why is 3200 pushing the point of diminishing returns though?
 
sorry when i was looking at the board specs, so 4 slots seems solid I will get 4x8gb ddr4.

why is 3200 pushing the point of diminishing returns though?

If you look at benchmarks generally you're not getting much more performance past around 3000, and you end up paying a lot for really fast ram (~3600).
 
Is the i5-4690K still a recommend CPU?

Micro Center has a bundle with a ASRock Z97 PRO 4board that comes out $330. Or I spend a couple of bucks more for the MSI Z97 Gaming 4.
 
Is the i5-4690K still a recommend CPU?

Micro Center has a bundle with a ASRock Z97 PRO 4board that comes out $330. Or I spend a couple of bucks more for the MSI Z97 Gaming 4.

Does your MC have the 6600K in stock? You can get that + a Z170 motherboard for only a little bit more if so. I would go that way.
 

RGM79

Member
Quick question, is there any advantages to using DDR4 over DDR3?

Im going an i7 skylake, with 980ti build. The thing is, i want 32GB RAM, looking at 3600Mhz. Also the motherboard 7170-a is only a dual channel setup, any good board recommendations for ddr4 quad channel
sorry when i was looking at the board specs, so 4 slots seems solid I will get 4x8gb ddr4.

why is 3200 pushing the point of diminishing returns though?

What are you doing on your PC that is RAM intensive? I cannot think of anything that would benefit from quad channel or be bottlenecked by dual channel unless you are doing some tough work involving CPU heavy computation workloads. Paying more for RAM speeds higher than 3200MHz is hard to justify because there are few applications that can make use of it.

If you're going with Skylake parts, get DDR4. There are some Skylake motherboards that support DDR3, but it definitely isn't recommended for reasons of high voltage meaning higher temperatures and possible lower lifespan of the processor.

Do I need to buy an optical drive to download windows 10 for my new build?

I can't find any usb download option

I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to do? If you just need to download Windows 10, you don't need anything, there are free official downloads from Microsoft. If you want to put Windows 10 onto a USB drive for installation, see this link.

Is the i5-4690K still a recommend CPU?

Micro Center has a bundle with a ASRock Z97 PRO 4board that comes out $330. Or I spend a couple of bucks more for the MSI Z97 Gaming 4.

When it comes to price to performance, it's not bad at all. Similar performance for a bit less money. If you can afford the slightly higher costs for the i5 6600K and its motherboard and RAM, I'd recommend it though.
 
If you already have DDR3 RAM, then that makes sense.

Good point. I also already have a hyper 212 to put on (carefully this time lol)

Which of these boards

http://www.microcenter.com/product/446626/Z97S_SLI_Krait_Edition_LGA_1150_ATX_Intel_Motherboard
http://www.microcenter.com/product/446594/Z97_PRO4_ATX_LGA_1150
http://www.microcenter.com/product/433406/Z97-Gaming_5_LGA_1150_ATX_Intel_Motherboard

would you recommend? Price wise is only a difference of a few dollars (in the bundle)
 

RGM79

Member
Good point. I also already have a hyper 212 to put on (carefully this time lol)

Which of these boards

http://www.microcenter.com/product/446626/Z97S_SLI_Krait_Edition_LGA_1150_ATX_Intel_Motherboard
http://www.microcenter.com/product/446594/Z97_PRO4_ATX_LGA_1150
http://www.microcenter.com/product/433406/Z97-Gaming_5_LGA_1150_ATX_Intel_Motherboard

would you recommend? Price wise is only a difference of a few dollars (in the bundle)

The MSI Z97-Gaming 5 stands out as the highest end motherboard out of those three, and general user reviews are pretty good.
 

OraleeWey

Member
Not sure what happened but Steam doesn't acknowledge that I have games on my B drive after I turned it on for the first time since thursday. Does anyone know how to add this folder back into Steam so I can play these games through Steam? I've got like 460gb worth of games on my HDD.

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RGM79

Member
Not sure what happened but Steam doesn't acknowledge that I have games on my B drive after I turned it on for the first time since thursday. Does anyone know how to add this folder back into Steam so I can play these games through Steam? I've got like 460gb worth of games on my HDD.

See here, specifically the section titled "Add previously existing alternate installation libraries/folders to Steam".
 

Hustler

Member
Can you guys check over my build and suggest areas of improvement? I already ordered the GTX 970 and the SSD. I have a 500GB HD from my old build I can bring over as well.

Is the i7 vs i5 difference worth spending the extra $100+? I can do without 4K gaming or VR. The GTX 970 purchase came with a free copy of the new Tomb Raider game, so I'd like to be able to play that game on max settings if possible.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($256.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($153.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($85.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($329.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.00 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.78 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1072.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-26 13:02 EST-0500
 

RGM79

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Can you guys check over my build and suggest areas of improvement? I already ordered the GTX 970 and the SSD. I have a 500GB HD from my old build I can bring over as well.

Is the i7 vs i5 difference worth spending the extra $100+? I can do without 4K gaming or VR. The GTX 970 purchase came with a free copy of the new Tomb Raider game, so I'd like to be able to play that game on max settings if possible.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($256.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($153.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($85.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($329.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.00 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.78 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1072.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-26 13:02 EST-0500

The Asus Z170-A motherboard is kinda okay, but I think it's expensive for what it is when there are better priced alternatives. Same with the Fractal case and Corsair PSU. Also, do you really need the DVD drive? In recent years, things like USB drives and Steam have replaced most needs for a disc drive.

Right now the i7 6700K isn't really worth the price because it's so much higher than the ~$350 MSRP at the moment. Few games will require the i7 6700K and I don't see the i5 6600K being obsolete anytime soon just because it lacks the hyperthreading that the i7 6700K offers.

Anyway, this is what I recommend:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($256.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($118.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($85.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($309.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1030.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-26 13:22 EST-0500

Overall it's $40 cheaper, the main changes are a lower cost but still decent motherboard, faster RAM, a slightly faster GTX 970, the newer and better Fractal Define R5, and a much better power supply.
 

Hustler

Member
The Asus Z170-A motherboard is kinda okay, but I think it's expensive for what it is when there are better priced alternatives. Same with the Fractal case and Corsair PSU. Also, do you really need the DVD drive? In recent years, things like USB drives and Steam have replaced most needs for a disc drive.

Right now the i7 6700K isn't really worth the price because it's so much higher than the ~$350 MSRP at the moment. Few games will require the i7 6700K and I don't see the i5 6600K being obsolete anytime soon just because it lacks the hyperthreading that the i7 6700K offers.

Anyway, this is what I recommend:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($256.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($118.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($85.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($309.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1030.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-26 13:22 EST-0500

Overall it's $40 cheaper, the main changes are a lower cost but still decent motherboard, faster RAM, a slightly faster GTX 970, the newer and better Fractal Define R5, and a much better power supply.

Great, thanks for the suggestions, I'll take your advice! I'll still buy the DVD Drive, I need it to play some old games from time to time.
 

RGM79

Member
That's for that. Really appreciate it. You think it can handle my 1080/60 expectations?

Yeah, I'd say the GTX 970 is fairly capable, as long as you don't mind turning down a few settings known for crippling performance in some games (e.g., hairworks in The Witcher 3, grass and MSAA in GTAV, etc).
 

I used the MediaCreateToolkit for Win10 to make a bootable Win10 USB flash drive, installed off it no problem on my new PC.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

Download Tool now halfway down the page

I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to do? If you just need to download Windows 10, you don't need anything, there are free official downloads from Microsoft. If you want to put Windows 10 onto a USB drive for installation, see this link.
Thanks for the replies!

Yes, I'm looking to download the installer onto a USB since i don't plan on buying an optical drive. This would be the first installing an OS without one.

Would I have to buy a physical copy with the key too? Or is there a digital option?
 
Need some advice. I'm looking to purchase another 1440p monitor for my setup with credit card reward points so I can have dual monitors going. My main monitor is an Asus Rog Swoft (ips model) and the second I was looking to add is this one:

http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=24-236-452

I'm currently running an Asus GeForce 980 Matrix. The second card will be strictly for things like Netflix and Internet browsing while i game. Is this card strong enough to support gaming on one and Internet on the other with both at 1440p?
 

Maddanth

Member
I have a question here as I'm fairly new to PC gaming. Is SLI not a recommended thing or? I use to have SLI 2 970, but someone said SLI is not the best way to go so I ended up taking those out and adding a 980ti. Although I was thinking of future proofing and was told that DX12 will have native SLI support. Is that accurate? I would like to SLI 2 980ti, with 32gb ram, just so I don't have to worry for a while. Sorry for the long post but any suggestions would be very much appreciated.
 
The MSI Z97-Gaming 5 stands out as the highest end motherboard out of those three, and general user reviews are pretty good.

Seems like it.

Having never overclocked before, how much of a boost can I expect? 10-15% of a performance boost?

What's a good stable overclock to shoot for? 4.0? 4.1?

Is the jump from a 4590 to 4690K massive? or at least as big of a jump from a 2310 to a 4590?
 

Brandon F

Well congratulations! You got yourself caught!
I am about to have a heart attack!!

So I built my new PC a couple weeks ago and all was going perfectly. I have windows 10 installed, no issues getting everything working. Steam games performing smoothly, etc...

Then last night I turn on the system and nothing comes on screen.

The lights and fans are turning on and working in the case, but the motherboard will not boot to POST or BIOS or even display anything on the monitor at all. Just a black screen as the computer just idly sits lit up doing nothing.

I get no motherboard beeps at all either(which could help determine some errors) as it usually beeps once before loading the BIOS splash image, but not here. I also noticed the HDD indicator on the case is not lighting up at all(likely a factor of the failed boot process not even getting to the HDD-read step access rather than it being at fault).

Before work, I quickly slotted out my various DIMM cards in different configs to see if they were the issue but I get the same problem regardless of which slots are used, alone, swapped, single, etc...

I just blew a ton of cash on this system and 2 weeks later it literally will not start. I did not overclock(just used the ASUS Bios to boost my RAM speed to their native 3000mhz from the underclocked default 2133mhz). No CPU or GPU overclocking.

My specs are below and I would appreciate any and all help!!

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700k 4.00Ghz
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VIII Hero
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000Mhz Memory
SSD Storage: Intel 180gb SSD
HDD Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: Gigabyte G1 GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card
Case: Corsair 600C Clear Case
Power Supply: Cooler Master 650w EX2 Power Supply

I can't even fathom where to begin just getting the BOOT to work again. :(
 

RGM79

Member
Need some advice. I'm looking to purchase another 1440p monitor for my setup with credit card reward points so I can have dual monitors going. My main monitor is an Asus Rog Swoft (ips model) and the second I was looking to add is this one:

http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=24-236-452

I'm currently running an Asus GeForce 980 Matrix. The second card will be strictly for things like Netflix and Internet browsing while i game. Is this card strong enough to support gaming on one and Internet on the other with both at 1440p?

If the game will only be on one monitor and the other one is just displaying your desktop or some non-3D program, it'll be fine. there's not really any performance penalty at all, maybe just a tiny one.
 
Now when you say 1080/60 do you mean on ultra? Also emulators take more power than just about any game out today on the CPU front.

I was thinking more on high.
If i can adjust my budget say an extra 50$-100$ to reach such heights i am willing to do so however.
Im not trying to build a beast of any sorts nor do i need one.
 
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