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"I Need a New PC!" 2015 Part 2. Read the OP. Rocking 2500K's until HBM2 and beyond.
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opticalmace
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Probably a loose cable or something like that. Glad to hear it's working.
Found the issue; broken hardrive plug. Anybody know how that could prevent it from booting?
Hey Guys stupid quesiton. Where can i get the latest intel motherboard drivers for my z170 board for Windows 10? I cannot find them on Intel's site. My motherboard manufacturer drivers are prettty old and I would like to try something newer to help solve some issues. These are the drivers I currently have installed from their site.
Intel Management Engine Interface 11.0.0.1162 2015/08/27
Intel INF installation 10.1.1.9 2015/08/03
Intel SATA Preinstall driver 14.6.0.1029 2015/10/16
Intel® Rapid Storage Technology 14.6.0.1029 2015/10/16
Is it generally not a good idea to use Intels drivers vs what the motherboard maker has currently?
Intel Management Engine Interface 11.0.0.1162 2015/08/27
Intel INF installation 10.1.1.9 2015/08/03
Intel SATA Preinstall driver 14.6.0.1029 2015/10/16
Intel® Rapid Storage Technology 14.6.0.1029 2015/10/16
Is it generally not a good idea to use Intels drivers vs what the motherboard maker has currently?
opticalmace
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You mean the SATA cable? I guess the motherboard could've choked on getting a weird signal from the drive.
What motherboard? In general your best bet is the manufacturer's website. Unless you have a specific issue that intel has provided a fix for that you might need (that the manufacturer hasn't acknowledged).
Not the SATA, the power cable that comes from the power supply. No idea what it's called.
Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 7 . I am having DPC latency issues and currently the only solution I have found is getting my PCIE speed to Gen2. I have been using LatencyMon to try and track down the issue but had no luck. Hoping it may be a driver issue , but I am running everything latest that is on the Gigabyte website and the latest for my GPU and Sound card.
Hands of Stone
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Still nothing. Gotta just order new parts, starting with a new CPU (long overdue imo)
So, what's a decent mobo to pair a i5-4590 with?
What ram and is the ram running XMP or overclocked?
You might try search for Intel chipset drivers for a particular board series but I'm not sure where to get them from directly since Intel stopped making mobos.
Ive run stock, auto, and XMP.
What drivers is latencymon picking up as possible causes?
Go for it
It was mainly the dx driver, hd audio driver, and the nvidia display drivers. Theres tons of threads on it, but no single answer on how to fix it. Ive worked through an insane amount of solutions (software, hpet, disabling hardware, etc) over the past 2 days. Only one that works is dropping my pcie down to 2.0, which wouldnt bother me too much but im also only running 8x because of sli. It works, I guess I can just wait for a new bios or motherboard driver update at gigabyte and see if it eventually fixes itself.
After a fresh install, what drivers have you installed?
What peripherals are you running?
Windows 10? Tried 7?
Assume you tried various bios versions?
Turned off power saving features? C states speedstep?
Is the latency causing any real world problems?
Killer NIC? Tried the stripped down Atheros driver?
E Mailed gigabyte?
filled in
How good are you with soldering? I think it worth a shot.
Hands of Stone
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Nah, I've tinkered enough (over a week to get to this point haha)
I was gonna need to upgrade my CPU/Mobo pretty soon anyway, and this finally gives me a reason to take that plunge.
Really the only drivers to install are as follows:
Necessary:
Intel chipset
Intel management engine
GPU drivers (driver and control panel only)
Nice to have
LAN
USB 3.0
Later/Unnecessary:
3rd party audio chipset
3rd party USB 3/SATA
3rd party dedicated software (keyboard mouse or other peripheral)
You should really fresh install either Windows 10 or 7 and try only necessary drivers before troubleshooting further. Then install LAN and USB 3 drivers and test. I hate testing this on Windows 10bas it installs drivers automatically without any real control and that makes it difficult to troubleshoot. You should try win 7 on a spare drive if need be.
Yeah that was a major problem i was having with windows 10, it kept installing crap while I was trying to troubleshoot. I may do a refresh at some point. Too tired to do it now :O
Shadowhaxor
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Since I upgraded my main PC from a i5-3570k to a 5820k, i've been in heaven. Encodes are way faster, recording 1080p-1440p games while streaming them are nothing and well, everything just flies now.
So I'm looking at upgrading my 1150 i5-4590s in my HTPC/Streaming box. I also use it for a VMware server that hosts Plex, since my Dell 2950 III died and I'm waiting til tax returns to get either a Dell PE R610 or R710. But my question is regarding i7 vs Xeons, specifically for gaming. Sure the nutshell version is that the Xeons are on par with the i7, without the integrated GPU. However all the CPU scoring are showing the i7-4790k and i7-4790 are higher up than the Xeon E3 1231 V3 and E3 1241 V3.
Is there anyone running an 1150 slot Xeon and if so, how does it compare with gaming / encoding?
Cost break down:
Xeon E3 1241 v3 - $229.99
Xeon E3 1246 v3 - $239.99
I7-4790 - $249.99
I7-4790k - $299.99
So I'm looking at upgrading my 1150 i5-4590s in my HTPC/Streaming box. I also use it for a VMware server that hosts Plex, since my Dell 2950 III died and I'm waiting til tax returns to get either a Dell PE R610 or R710. But my question is regarding i7 vs Xeons, specifically for gaming. Sure the nutshell version is that the Xeons are on par with the i7, without the integrated GPU. However all the CPU scoring are showing the i7-4790k and i7-4790 are higher up than the Xeon E3 1231 V3 and E3 1241 V3.
Is there anyone running an 1150 slot Xeon and if so, how does it compare with gaming / encoding?
Cost break down:
Xeon E3 1241 v3 - $229.99
Xeon E3 1246 v3 - $239.99
I7-4790 - $249.99
I7-4790k - $299.99
Same chip just slightly different clock speeds.
Shadowhaxor
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Yeah, pretty much what I saw and noticed. Even a non-K can get a slight OC, might as well go with the Xeon then.
Currency and location??
Garuda1One
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guys something weird happen to my computer (Again)
I cant hear any sound when im playing games, but i can hear sound clearly when watching from youtube / using chrome.. i already open volume mixer, everything is at 100%, i even test my speaker from sound properties and theres no issue, even windows cannot troubleshoot the issue, its like theres no issue at all !
I can hear sound when watching youtube using chrome but not other application or games.. even theres no sound when watching trailer / videos using steam client..
*yes i tried other browser and its working...
*yes just tried using headphone from the front headphone jack but still no sound from games.. i think this is software related..
*tried using a logitech usb stick that have a headphone jack at the back (like an adapter), still no sound..
helpp this is weirrddd
oh im using windows 10
motherboard is maximus vii hero, and im not using any sound card..
I cant hear any sound when im playing games, but i can hear sound clearly when watching from youtube / using chrome.. i already open volume mixer, everything is at 100%, i even test my speaker from sound properties and theres no issue, even windows cannot troubleshoot the issue, its like theres no issue at all !
I can hear sound when watching youtube using chrome but not other application or games.. even theres no sound when watching trailer / videos using steam client..
*yes i tried other browser and its working...
*yes just tried using headphone from the front headphone jack but still no sound from games.. i think this is software related..
*tried using a logitech usb stick that have a headphone jack at the back (like an adapter), still no sound..
helpp this is weirrddd
oh im using windows 10
motherboard is maximus vii hero, and im not using any sound card..
Ordered the parts mainly from mindfactory.de (they're the cheapest and I had good experience with them) now.
I decided to buy different ram 16GB HyperX FURY black DDR4-2133 DIMM because the mobo can't go higher than 2133.
The case with the psu was cheapest here I've bought there before basically is like a site like Ebay but for bigger re-sellers) and the name description is kinda weird...
It's called...
''Geh FRACTAL DESIGN Node 202 Mini-ITX 450W (B)''
What's the ''Geh'' and ''(B)'' mean?
Could it be that it could mean ''Gebraucht'' (German word for "used" ) and ''B'' (letter used for used hardware in good shape/returned item) ?
They had more than 5 and it wasn't described as used, you only could guess that from the title.
I've send them an e-mail so hopefully I get a fast reply.
Other items from there clearly are labeled as used items with a condition description.
I decided to buy different ram 16GB HyperX FURY black DDR4-2133 DIMM because the mobo can't go higher than 2133.
The case with the psu was cheapest here I've bought there before basically is like a site like Ebay but for bigger re-sellers) and the name description is kinda weird...
It's called...
''Geh FRACTAL DESIGN Node 202 Mini-ITX 450W (B)''
What's the ''Geh'' and ''(B)'' mean?
Could it be that it could mean ''Gebraucht'' (German word for "used" ) and ''B'' (letter used for used hardware in good shape/returned item) ?
They had more than 5 and it wasn't described as used, you only could guess that from the title.
I've send them an e-mail so hopefully I get a fast reply.
Other items from there clearly are labeled as used items with a condition description.
Novum_Veritas
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Geh means Gehäuse in German, or chassis, and the B means that it is revision B of the chassis.
Gaf I need some overclocking help. I have the MSI X99a Raider along with an i7 5820k and Corsair Vengeance 2400mHz DDR 4 RAM.
I can't seem to get both the CPU and RAM to overclock at the same time. I have to Corsair 100i cooler and nice airflow in the case, so I'm not really worried about temperatures. Any advice?
I can't seem to get both the CPU and RAM to overclock at the same time. I have to Corsair 100i cooler and nice airflow in the case, so I'm not really worried about temperatures. Any advice?
I'm currently building one, it shouldn't be a problem.
Lots of mITX builds out there that will do that.
I should've added "at $500" in there. Sorry about that.
For how much?
What's that?
1050, it's going to be high end pc for a friend and he wants a build with new parts.
If you want one for 500 you need to get used parts and cheaper parts but it should work, it would very decent as long as you look out on sites like craigslist.
I was able to get a good pc for 380 which could be converted with 130 to a small itx pc.
DirtyLarry
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Thank you both for the replies. I am going to hold off.
tearsintherain Yep I have Oculus pre-ordered. Waited a few days so current estimate is June but according to that chart that was going around I have a 30% chance of getting it in May. I am going in blind with Oculus as I have not tried it yet. But I need a new PC regardless and fortunately I make a decent living and can take a risk here and there with tech.
So wait it is. In the meantime I'll be putting a few hundred bucks to the side for the next few months.
sssstententen
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Looks like the Acer Xb270h has relatively good marks.
zedreamcast
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So I've been worried about Dedicated VRAM on a video card, since i just got a laptop and i'm ordering my pc parts soon and i've been worried i wont have enough? so how do i find out how much my dedicated vram is on a video card, or is all of its memory the dedicated vram? I'm new to computer building mind you.
What parts are you going to order? VRAM amount is usually listed in the name of the graphics card or the graphics card's model number.
Not bad at all. I recommend you get 2666MHz or higher speed RAM, though.
That power supply is somewhat old and there are better choices. Compared to the EVGA G1 650 watt unit, the EVGA B2 750 watt model is available for $5 cheaper and offers higher wattage, while the EVGA GQ 650 watt model is only $1.50 more and is a newer design. Both are considered to be manufactured to a better standard than the old G1 model. You can see review comparisons here by the Jonny Guru website, which is well-trusted for power supply reviews.
EVGA G1 650 watt: 8.5/10
EVGA B2 750 watt: 9/10
EVGA GQ 650 watt: 9.4/10
It's 99% guaranteed Kaby Lake will be compatible with socket 1151. Kaby Lake will also launch with new 200 series motherboards with updated support for various tech, but those will also be using socket 1151. Socket 1151 and 100 series chipsets were just launched last year, Intel likes to release a few processor lines for each new socket it introduces before discontinuing the socket and introducing another new socket design.
Socket 1156 supported the Lynnfield and Clarkdale processor lines.
Socket 1155 supported the Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge processor lines.
Socket 1150 supported Haswell, Haswell Refresh, Devil's Canyon (a subset of Haswell Refresh), and Broadwell processor lines.
In the same way, socket 1151 supports Skylake and should support Kaby Lake. Beyond that there's Cannonlake, Ice Lake, and Tiger Lake, but nothing concrete is known about those yet.
For home NAS duties I can't really imagine you'll need more than an i3 processor, but you do have the option of Skylake i5 and i7 processors at the very least in the extremely unlikely situation that Kaby Lake will be incompatible.
Caayn
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Thanks for the response.
I doubt that I'll need more power than an i3 can give me in the beginning, a Pentium or lower is a no-go for me. It wouldn't save much in terms of power draw, from what I've seen, but would give me considerably less power to work with.
At first it'll be mostly used for NAS duties and I'd like to give it extra functionality over time. (See it as a hobby platform that I can have running 24/7 for my programming hobby.) So for that I'd like the option to upgrade over time when I need to the extra power.
LT Snoshado
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^ That's definitely good to hear. I just bought a bunch of new parts and was hoping that I'd have at least a little bit of future-proofing as far as socket type and new Intel CPUs go!
SonicXtreme
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Upgrading from 4100 black edition; at micro center
8320 is $130
8320E is $110
8350 is $160
Would I be ok with the e, or should I spring the money for the 8320 regular? I really don't wanna spend north of $150 if I dont have to. That's be a pretty noticeable upgrade for either of them, right? Why is e two tiers lower on toms hardware? I probably don't want to over clock or if I do it won't be a lot.
8320 is $130
8320E is $110
8350 is $160
Would I be ok with the e, or should I spring the money for the 8320 regular? I really don't wanna spend north of $150 if I dont have to. That's be a pretty noticeable upgrade for either of them, right? Why is e two tiers lower on toms hardware? I probably don't want to over clock or if I do it won't be a lot.
The Asus vg248qe? It's "gsync compatible". It was supposed to have a module released that added it, but I think it was a really short run and pretty much impossible to get now.
If you still want 1080p G Sync, you could try finding a XL2420G.
It really doesn't matter anyway, since there is usually only a 5-10% difference in speed between the generations.
Pc1600 would be ddr3 and PC3200 would be ddr4. They aren't compatible.
Go with the FX-8320E if you'll be overclocking, otherwise FX-8320. At stock speed, the FX-8320E is slower but also runs cooler.
What are your system specs? I don't think you're using the right terms, PC-1600 is SDRAM (obsolete for about 13 years now) and PC-3200 is DDR1 (obsolete for 9 years).
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