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"I Need a New PC!" 2015 Part 2. Read the OP. Rocking 2500K's until HBM2 and beyond.

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OraleeWey

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Edit: I see that you have come around on the benefits of a SSD. Just as anecdotical evidence: I've got a 64gb ssd in my PC that I use for well.. mostly wathcing streaming video running Windows 10 and I have about half of it free after installing some small programs as well.

Cool. 120gb should be fine then. I doubt he'll be downloading anything.
 

Pinewood

Member
So I made a clip of the sound http://vocaroo.com/i/s1Q8pQvW27ru

Fans and HDD are unplugged so they arent making the noise. It also isnt the PSU. I can pinpoint the sound near the CPU/GPU area and its really weird.


The PC has run for some time with a broken GPU fan that causes a lot of noise and vibration so that might be the cause for some kind of damage but I still have no idea whats causing that sound (GPU fan was off when I was recording)

Bringing this up again. Anyone?
 

Windam

Scaley member
So we'll (Canadians) never have a decent price for the i7 4790/4790K, will we? I'm running a Phenom II X4 965 BE and feel it's almost time I retired the chap, but I want to go Intel this time around and holy shit at the latest gen prices + mobos + DDR4 RAM. I'd rather hold on to my DDR3 but even last gen prices... Pls for a sale or a used one if anyone wants to get rid of theirs. :x
 

Blitzhex

Member
Guys, what would be an optimal 980ti build that's not overly expensive? (ie around $1,500)

This is what I would do, for OCing:

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Best Buy)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VIII GENE Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($208.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 960GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($256.97 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card ($623.00 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 350D Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($99.89 @ Mac Mall)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1673.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-31 17:13 EST-0500

You can shave off some $$ by buying a cheaper mobo and non-k cpu if you're not OC'ing, save 20$ more on 3000mhz ram and save some more cash by going 250gb ssd and 1tb hdd. Add 3 fans for $15 each for better cooling (1 at the front and 2 on the cpu cooler, push/pull).
 
This is what I would do, for OCing:

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Best Buy)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VIII GENE Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($208.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 960GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($256.97 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card ($623.00 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 350D Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($99.89 @ Mac Mall)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1673.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-31 17:13 EST-0500

You can shave off some $$ by buying a cheaper mobo and non-k cpu if you're not OC'ing, save 20$ more on 3000mhz ram and save some more cash by going 250gb ssd and 1tb hdd. Add 3 fans for $15 each for better cooling (1 at the front and 2 on the cpu cooler, push/pull).
I would like to OC. Is there a place that can build it for me?
 

OraleeWey

Member
I would like to OC. Is there a place that can build it for me?
Edit: NCIX will build the PC for you for $50 with one year warranty and they'll make sure that no parts are DOA. However, if possible I personally recommend you build it yourself. It isn't too hard.

How about a 5820k build?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($374.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($184.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial BX100 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($68.57 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card ($624.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1540.27
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-31 17:26 EST-0500
 

RGM79

Member
Guys, what would be an optimal 980ti build that's not overly expensive? (ie around $1,500)

Here you go. Do you need Windows or any peripherals or anything else?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Best Buy)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($118.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($150.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card ($623.00 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1449.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-31 17:20 EST-0500

So we'll (Canadians) never have a decent price for the i7 4790/4790K, will we? I'm running a Phenom II X4 965 BE and feel it's almost time I retired the chap, but I want to go Intel this time around and holy shit at the latest gen prices + mobos + DDR4 RAM. I'd rather hold on to my DDR3 but even last gen prices... Pls for a sale or a used one if anyone wants to get rid of theirs. :x

That's just how it is. I'm sorta lucky I jumped onto the i7 6700K when it was still selling for close to MSRP ($460 CAD, ~$515 after taxes).
 

Blitzhex

Member
I would like to OC. Is there a place that can build it for me?

Always better to do it yourself, very hard to mess up. I learned to build as a kid without internet. With the advent of youtube, it's a piece of cake.
Also note you're paying a slight premium for matx form factor here, just my preference. Everything in this build is top notch build quality though, not really gimping on anything, except maybe cpu cooling for ocs above 4.5ghz at low temps.
 
Edit: NCIX will build the PC for you for $50 with one year warranty and they'll make sure that no parts are DOA. However, if possible I personally recommend you build it yourself. It isn't too hard.

How about a 5820k build?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($374.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($184.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial BX100 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($68.57 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card ($624.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1540.27
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-31 17:26 EST-0500

Here you go. Do you need Windows or any peripherals or anything else?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Best Buy)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($118.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($150.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card ($623.00 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1449.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-31 17:20 EST-0500



That's just how it is. I'm sorta lucky I jumped onto the i7 6700K when it was still selling for close to MSRP ($460 CAD, ~$515 after taxes).

Always better to do it yourself, very hard to mess up. I learned to build as a kid without internet. With the advent of youtube, it's a piece of cake.
Also note you're paying a slight premium for matx form factor here, just my preference. Everything in this build is top notch build quality though, not really gimping on anything, except maybe cpu cooling for ocs above 4.5ghz at low temps.
Theses are some really awesome builds guys, right around my price range. I was supposed to build a pc last year but a personal thing came up and u postponed it. For some reason I feel like I'll screw up the building process. Any tips on how I should handle the chip? My friend told be to touch metal or something like that to remove static from my body.
 

OraleeWey

Member
Theses are some really awesome builds guys, right around my price range. I was supposed to build a pc last year but a personal thing came up and u postponed it. For some reason I feel like I'll screw up the building process. Any tips on how I should handle the chip? My friend told be to touch metal or something like that to remove static from my body.

You have to hold the CPU by the sides/edges as to not touch the metals on the bottom (AFAIK). It's stupid easy really. I encourage you to do it yourself. I was in your position a year ago. A few YouTube videos and you'll be set. If you have any questions with the build process you can ask here and we'll help you. I've built 3 PC's (iirc) since my first build (RGM79 helped me the first time) in just under a year and all have gone smoothly.


Edit: Ooh and you discharge any electricity in your body by touching a metal before touching the sensitive components like the motherboard. You do this by tapping on some metal on the case.
 

KingKong

Member
I decided to just build a new PC, looking to play games on almost max settings at 1920x1200 resolution for foreseeable future (but willing to upgrade the videocard 2-3 years from now). Any critiques? I feel I might have gone overboard with the CPU and motherboard, I wasn't too sure what to get so I went with the Toms Hardware picks

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($204.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.44 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($149.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($157.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($309.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1110.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-31 18:00 EST-0500
 
Theses are some really awesome builds guys, right around my price range. I was supposed to build a pc last year but a personal thing came up and u postponed it. For some reason I feel like I'll screw up the building process. Any tips on how I should handle the chip? My friend told be to touch metal or something like that to remove static from my body.

If you haven't seen them already, there are some really invaluable informative instructional videos in the OT for beginner builders like myself. I feel way way more confident now. Even though one of them gave me multiple heart attacks lol.

Also, you and I have about the same build now for everything but our graphics cards (I got a R9 390). I chose to go with a weaker card for a bit because in a couple months they are introducing Pascal cards and they are supposed to be the bees knees or something so I was thinking it would save me a bit of money now and I will sell my weaker one for money towards a more powerful Pascal card in the buy sell trade thread and if I can't find a buyer I still won't be out all that much when I upgrade. Something to think about. Enjoy your new computer! I can't wait to put mine together as well!
 
You have to hold the CPU by the sides/edges as to not touch the metals on the bottom (AFAIK). It's stupid easy really. I encourage you to do it yourself. I was in your position a year ago. A few YouTube videos and you'll be set. If you have any questions with the build process you can ask here and we'll help you. I've built 3 PC's (iirc) since my first build (RGM79 helped me the first time) in just under a year and all have gone smoothly.


Edit: Ooh and you discharge any electricity in your body by touching a metal before touching the sensitive components like the motherboard. You do this by tapping on some metal on the case.
So I can build on a carpet then?
If you haven't seen them already, there are some really invaluable informative instructional videos in the OT for beginner builders like myself. I feel way way more confident now. Even though one of them gave me multiple heart attacks lol.

Also, you and I have about the same build now for everything but our graphics cards (I got a R9 390). I chose to go with a weaker card for a bit because in a couple months they are introducing Pascal cards and they are supposed to be the bees knees or something so I was thinking it would save me a bit of money now and I will sell my weaker one for money towards a more powerful Pascal card in the buy sell trade thread and if I can't find a buyer I still won't be out all that much when I upgrade. Something to think about. Enjoy your new computer! I can't wait to put mine together as well!
Haha it's great to see someone who is new. Maybe I should go with something cheaper since I've been hearing the same thing. It's just that I've been wanting the 980ti since summer last year lol. How much did your build cost in total?
 

RGM79

Member
I decided to just build a new PC, looking to play games on almost max settings at 1920x1200 resolution for foreseeable future (but willing to upgrade the videocard 2-3 years from now). Any critiques? I feel I might have gone overboard with the CPU and motherboard, I wasn't too sure what to get so I went with the Toms Hardware picks

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($204.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.44 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($149.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($157.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($309.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1110.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-31 18:00 EST-0500

You can make some slightly better choices for parts to get better worth for your money. If you're interested in overclocking then get the i5 6600K, it'll be easier to overclock.

To offset the extra cost of the i5 6600K (or just save money), I recommend the Gigabyte GA-170XP-SLI, it's a solid mid-range motherboard at better price than the Asus Z170-A and slightly better average user review score on Newegg indicating potentially fewer problems.

For $2 less, you can get the EVGA GTX 970 SSC model, which is a better and improved version of the SC model you chose.

We tend not to recommend Corsair CX power supplies, they're merely average and aren't always priced well. The EVGA B2 750 watt model is available for $5 more than that Corsair CX500M if rebates are taken into account, and is a much better choice for the higher wattage and overall build quality.
 
So I can build on a carpet then?

Haha it's great to see someone who is new. Maybe I should go with something cheaper since I've been hearing the same thing. It's just that I've been wanting the 980ti since summer last year lol. How much did your build cost in total?

This is what it's at now.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Best Buy)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($118.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($150.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 390 8GB SOC Video Card ($308.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define S ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($87.95 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1246.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-31 18:29 EST-0500

You would be able to shave off a good chunk because I needed a windows license and didn't have a keyboard or mouse since all I've used for years is my OG surface pro and an arc touch mouse.
 

OraleeWey

Member
So I can build on a carpet then?

Haha it's great to see someone who is new. Maybe I should go with something cheaper since I've been hearing the same thing. It's just that I've been wanting the 980ti since summer last year lol. How much did your build cost in total?

If you're worried about static then you can always use one of these.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004N8ZQKY/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1454283033&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=anti+static+wrist+strap&dpPl=1&dpID=41kpz1uT0oL&ref=plSrch


Alternatively you can build it barefoot and touch something grounded every so often.
 

KingKong

Member
You can make some slightly better choices for parts to get better worth for your money. If you're interested in overclocking then get the i5 6600K, it'll be easier to overclock.

To offset the extra cost of the i5 6600K (or just save money), I recommend the Gigabyte GA-170XP-SLI, it's a solid mid-range motherboard at better price than the Asus Z170-A and slightly better average user review score on Newegg indicating potentially fewer problems.

For $2 less, you can get the EVGA GTX 970 SSC model, which is a better and improved version of the SC model you chose.

We tend not to recommend Corsair CX power supplies, they're merely average and aren't always priced well. The EVGA B2 750 watt model is available for $5 more than that Corsair CX500M if rebates are taken into account, and is a much better choice for the higher wattage and overall build quality.

cool, thanks. I'm not planning on overclocking, and I also got some similar suggestions that you gave on another forum about the psu and videocard and motherboard. Forgot to note that I have Amazon prime, so I changed it to Amazon only (which made things a little more expensive but I assume cheaper overall because of shipping) and had to change the RAM since the old one wasnt available. Ended up with this (different cooler and case)., I assume the differences between their and your selected parts are just preference?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($204.95 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.52 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty H170 Performance ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($143.68 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($154.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card ($328.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Thermaltake SMART 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($56.95 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($90.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $1193.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-31 19:18 EST-0500
 
This is what it's at now.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Best Buy)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($118.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($150.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 390 8GB SOC Video Card ($308.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define S ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($87.95 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1246.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-31 18:29 EST-0500

You would be able to shave off a good chunk because I needed a windows license and didn't have a keyboard or mouse since all I've used for years is my OG surface pro and an arc touch mouse.
Hmmmm interesting. I actually might go with this instead. I want to play games on High/ultra and this should be enough.
 

Windam

Scaley member
Is the difference in clock speed from the 6400 to the 6500 or 6600 worth the extra $$$? Right now the 6400 is $269 CAD while 6500 is $299 and the 6600 is $319 on NCIX. Don't really plan on OCing seeing as my 965 BE has lasted me this long without me fiddling with it.
 

RGM79

Member
cool, thanks. I'm not planning on overclocking, and I also got some similar suggestions that you gave on another forum about the psu and videocard and motherboard. Forgot to note that I have Amazon prime, so I changed it to Amazon only (which made things a little more expensive but I assume cheaper overall because of shipping) and had to change the RAM since the old one wasnt available. Ended up with this (different cooler and case)., I assume the differences between their and your selected parts are just preference?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($204.95 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.52 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty H170 Performance ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($143.68 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($154.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card ($328.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Thermaltake SMART 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($56.95 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($90.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $1193.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-31 19:18 EST-0500

The cooler and case look fine. I think I'll keep that Cryorig cooler bookmarked from now on, it actually looks quite excellent in terms of size and performance.

Otherwise, there are better parts or better costing parts I'd recommend if you're going to go all at Amazon. Here's a 2x8GB kit of Corsair 3000MHz RAM for the same price as the slower 2133MHz RAM you had selected.

I think that H170 motherboard is expensive and there are a lack of reviews on it. It's hard to say if it's that good so I'd rather recommend one with more reviews. You might as well actually keep the cheaper Gigabyte Z170 motherboard for the extra features and overclocking support in case you decide you do want to overclock in the future. I'd also still recommend the EVGA B2 power supply which is at a decent price at Amazon.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($204.95 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.52 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($125.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($154.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card ($328.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($90.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $1183.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-31 19:36 EST-0500

That's what my version of your parts list looks like.

Is the difference in clock speed from the 6400 to the 6500 or 6600 worth the extra $$$? Right now the 6400 is $269 CAD while 6500 is $299 and the 6600 is $319 on NCIX. Don't really plan on OCing seeing as my 965 BE has lasted me this long without me fiddling with it.

If you compare all three.. The i5 6400 has an awfully low clock speed at 2.7/3.3GHz. I'd recommend the i5 6500 if possible because it should represent a good performance leap over the i5 6400.

Keep in mind that NCIX has a pricematching policy [1][2], you can try and get them to lower their price to match other competitors. According to PCPartPicker, it's just under $280 elsewhere.
 
If someone could make a list for me of what each part of a PC build comes with in terms of cables, that would be awesome. I know the motherboard comes with SATA cables, but as far as everything else goes, I'm in the dark. Is everything just connected to the power supply? The one I ordered isn't modular.
 

valeo

Member
Upgrading from a 6 year old PC. Mostly upgrading because gaming performance has seriously taken a hit over the last year - I mostly want to upgrade so I can play the new Tomb Raider.

I currently have a 7970 for the GPU and will be keeping that until Pascal comes out.

I'm also getting a free case from my brother - the Fractal R3. Anyone know if this will be okay?

Current potential build:

Mobo: Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H Motherboard
CPU: Intel Core i5 6500
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2133mhz 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 Gold 750W

Would this be okay?

I'm tossing up whether to get a better motherboard for future proofing and higher RAM speed.
 
Gonna copy and paste this from the tech support thread as I guesss I'm actually looking for advice on parts:

Seems like my CPU is maybe overheating. Going all the way to 100 degrees in Prime95, which I think is bad? Been getting lockups after playing particularly intensive games for certain amounts of time so that's what made me check it out.

I have a 4770k OC'd to 4.4 and a Corsair H100i. Wondering if the Corsair is knackered. So I'm thinking new thermal paste and cooling unit but just wondering if people could recommend what to go for and also give me an idea of how difficult it is to apply/install that stuff. Thanks.

I'm looking at Arctic MX4 and the Cooler Master Hyper 212, are they good choices? Also, is there anything I can try before swapping this stuff out? I would disable my OC but... not sure how to.
 

KingKong

Member
The cooler and case look fine. I think I'll keep that Cryorig cooler bookmarked from now on, it actually looks quite excellent in terms of size and performance.

Otherwise, there are better parts or better costing parts I'd recommend if you're going to go all at Amazon. Here's a 2x8GB kit of Corsair 3000MHz RAM for the same price as the slower 2133MHz RAM you had selected.

I think that H170 motherboard is expensive and there are a lack of reviews on it. It's hard to say if it's that good so I'd rather recommend one with more reviews. You might as well actually keep the cheaper Gigabyte Z170 motherboard for the extra features and overclocking support in case you decide you do want to overclock in the future. I'd also still recommend the EVGA B2 power supply which is at a decent price at Amazon.

yeah I was a little wary of the motherboard he chose, yours looks more respectable. At least its all on Amazon so I wont have any problems returning things if I run into trouble. Thanks for all the help
 

RGM79

Member
If someone could make a list for me of what each part of a PC build comes with in terms of cables, that would be awesome. I know the motherboard comes with SATA cables, but as far as everything else goes, I'm in the dark. Is everything just connected to the power supply? The one I ordered isn't modular.

Yes, all of the power cables will be hard wired to the PSU. The only other cables you have to deal with will be hard wired to the case (power switch, LEDs, frontal USB connectors, etc).

Upgrading from a 6 year old PC. Mostly upgrading because gaming performance has seriously taken a hit over the last year - I mostly want to upgrade so I can play the new Tomb Raider.

I currently have a 7970 for the GPU and will be keeping that until Pascal comes out.

I'm also getting a free case from my brother - the Fractal R3. Anyone know if this will be okay?

Current potential build:

Mobo: Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H Motherboard
CPU: Intel Core i5 6500
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2133mhz 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 Gold 750W

Would this be okay?

I'm tossing up whether to get a better motherboard for future proofing and higher RAM speed.

Totally fine, the PSU is even overkill for your needs. What sort of better motherboard were you thinking of?

Gonna copy and paste this from the tech support thread as I guesss I'm actually looking for advice on parts:

Seems like my CPU is maybe overheating. Going all the way to 100 degrees in Prime95, which I think is bad? Been getting lockups after playing particularly intensive games for certain amounts of time so that's what made me check it out.

I have a 4770k OC'd to 4.4 and a Corsair H100i. Wondering if the Corsair is knackered. So I'm thinking new thermal paste and cooling unit but just wondering if people could recommend what to go for and also give me an idea of how difficult it is to apply/install that stuff. Thanks.

I'm looking at Arctic MX4 and the Cooler Master Hyper 212, are they good choices? Also, is there anything I can try before swapping this stuff out? I would disable my OC but... not sure how to.

Prime95 isn't indicative of how hot your PC will really get during gaming. Recent versions of Prime95 will stress the processor's AVX instruction set and the processor by design will kick up the voltage which also increases temperatures. Most if not all games don't use the AVX instruction set at all.

There's no reason to change to the Hyper 212 Evo cooler. Your H100i water cooler if properly installed and cleaned out is definitely a much better performing cooler.

What are your system specs? First thing to do is to check what temperatures you're getting in-game. Maybe you need to clean out the inside of your PC if it's gotten dusty. Do the lockups happen after a certain period of time or during specific moments of gameplay? Does it happen for all games?
 
Prime95 isn't indicative of how hot your PC will really get during gaming. Recent versions of Prime95 will stress the processor's AVX instruction set and the processor by design will kick up the voltage which also increases temperatures. Most if not all games don't use the AVX instruction set at all.

There's no reason to change to the Hyper 212 Evo cooler. Your H100i water cooler if properly installed and cleaned out is definitely a much better performing cooler.

What are your system specs? First thing to do is to check what temperatures you're getting in-game. Maybe you need to clean out the inside of your PC if it's gotten dusty. Do the lockups happen after a certain period of time or during specific moments of gameplay? Does it happen for all games?

Thanks for replying! It happens during more high spec games. Recently Tomb Raider, I remember Mad Max doing it, Ryse etc. It happens during 1 hour+ gaming sessions.

Specs are:

ASUS® MAXIMUS VI HERO: PCI-e 3.0, SATA 3.0, USB3.0
16GB KINGSTON HYPER-X BEAST DUAL-DDR3 2133MHz X.M.P (2 x 8GB)
2 x SLI 3GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 780 Ti
CORSAIR 1000W RM SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
4770k Quad Core (3.50GHz @ max 4.40GHz)

Had it for nearly 2 years now.

I'll stop using Prime95 as an indicator but I did look up how to lower my CPU OC. Knocking it down to 4.0 lowered the temp 10 degrees in Prime95, but I guess that's actually irrelevant?

Edit: Some minor testing while gaming, temps hit 75 at 4.4 and 65 at 4.0. I'll maybe try keeping it at 4.0 for now and see if that fixes the issue.
 

Windam

Scaley member
If you compare all three.. The i5 6400 has an awfully low clock speed at 2.7/3.3GHz. I'd recommend the i5 6500 if possible because it should represent a good performance leap over the i5 6400.

Keep in mind that NCIX has a pricematching policy [1][2], you can try and get them to lower their price to match other competitors. According to PCPartPicker, it's just under $280 elsewhere.

Thanks! And the ASUS B150M-A that I can bundle with it is a decent mobo, right? I know it's microATX so no SLI or anything, but the fact that I can re-use my DDR3 RAM instead of spending another $100 or so is really looking tempting. Also using a CM Hyper 212 EVO atm as my cooler.
 
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Queen of Hunting

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im looking at getting a new monitor soon, im looking to go above 1080p native for future stuff. im in the uk so advice on some great monitors would be appreciated and a reasonable price ofcourse but am willing to pay enough :D
 

RGM79

Member
Thanks! And the ASUS B150M-A that I can bundle with it is a decent mobo, right? I know it's microATX so no SLI or anything, but the fact that I can re-use my DDR3 RAM instead of spending another $100 or so is really looking tempting. Also using a CM Hyper 212 EVO atm as my cooler.

Although it's possible and motherboards for Skylake and standard DDR3 does exist, we generally don't recommend it because it's not known if the higher voltage of DDR3 will cause long term problems with Skylake processors, possibly shortening life and producing slightly higher than normal temperatures. It's not like I'd expect a Skylake processor to die only after a few years, it's just not known if it'll be that bad in the long term.

Also, there are no reviews for that motherboard.
 

Windam

Scaley member
Although it's possible and motherboards for Skylake and standard DDR3 does exist, we generally don't recommend it because it's not known if the higher voltage of DDR3 will cause long term problems with Skylake processors, possibly shortening life and producing slightly higher than normal temperatures. It's not like I'd expect a Skylake processor to die only after a few years, it's just not known if it'll be that bad in the long term.

Also, there are no reviews for that motherboard.

;___; This is gonna go right back to where I didn't want it to go price-wise. Damn you, Intel!
 

diablos991

Can’t stump the diablos
Anybody have any thoughts on if monitor prices will be dropping soon?

Looking to snag a 144hz 1080p for under $200: (any base models I should be looking out for other than those listed?)
Asus VG248QE
BenQ XL2411Z
QNIX QX2414

Also, does anybody have experience with the QNIX monitors?
 

kn1ves24

Member
What is the general consensus on GPU's for VR? I have the Rift pre-ordered with an expected delivery of early April so I have some time to plan.

My current setup is fine for CPU(i5-4690K), memory (16GB), etc. but I'm currently running a GTX 770(4GB) which obviously has been confirmed as not good enough.

The smart choice is probably to "wait", but if I were to pick a card up within the next month or two which is my better/best option? I'm really interested in the AMD Fury line but I wouldn't be opposed to staying with Nvidia. Just looking for some general info. I'm not up to speed on the latest cards or the next gen stuff coming.

Thanks.
 

diablos991

Can’t stump the diablos
What is the general consensus on GPU's for VR? I have the Rift pre-ordered with an expected delivery of early April so I have some time to plan.

My current setup is fine for CPU(i5-4690K), memory (16GB), etc. but I'm currently running a GTX 770(4GB) which obviously has been confirmed as not good enough.

The smart choice is probably to "wait", but if I were to pick a card up within the next month or two which is my better/best option? I'm really interested in the AMD Fury line but I wouldn't be opposed to staying with Nvidia. Just looking for some general info. I'm not up to speed on the latest cards or the next gen stuff coming.

Thanks.

Buy an EVGA Nvidia 970 or 980ti in April when your Oculus arrives.
Use EVGA step-up program to the new line of cards within 90 days. (http://www.evga.com/support/stepup/)
 
Cross post from the Buy Sell Trade thread. I know this might not be the place for this but since you guys upgrade parts all the time I thought I'd give it a try.

Looking for VESA mount adapter for my MX279H Asus monitor. Was wondering if anyone had upgraded theirs to Gsync or something and had the adapter laying around. I know my chances are slim but I thought I'd give it a try.

Here is the link to the adapter I'm looking for. https://www.humancentric.com/product/vesa-mount-adapter-for-asus-monitors-mx239h-mx259h-and-mx279h/
 

kn1ves24

Member
Buy an EVGA Nvidia 970 or 980ti in April when your Oculus arrives.
Use EVGA step-up program to the new line of cards within 90 days. (http://www.evga.com/support/stepup/)

That's an interesting idea. I hadn't thought of that.

I guess my other question would be is, are nvidia cards still the better option? I'm not strictly building this for VR but I want something that can hopefully provide decent performance in both situations, VR and non-VR. I'm also on a budget, not saying I'm looking for the absolute cheapest option but I don't have the kind of cash to buy a Titan either.
 

Hypron

Member
They have excellent ventilation. My old Define R3 never had an issue with summer time temperatures, and my new Define S has even better airflow.

This. It's the middle of the summer here and my Define S works perfectly. Even with the heat the computer (i7-6700k with Hyper EVO, Strix 970 and corsair RM650i) is really silent and the component temperatures stay good. Like, it's impressive how silent it is. Quieter than any console I own by far.
 

RGM79

Member
Possibly dumb question: the i5 6500 comes with a cooler, right? So do I still need to buy a separate one?

It comes with a basic cooler. You will only need to buy an aftermarket cooler if you want lower temperatures, less noise, or overclocking. The stock cooler is decent enough to keep the processor from overheating, but in some hot and heavy situations the Intel cooler is known to get somewhat loud. For overclocking the Intel stock cooler can only manage very slight overclocking.

That's an interesting idea. I hadn't thought of that.

I guess my other question would be is, are nvidia cards still the better option? I'm not strictly building this for VR but I want something that can hopefully provide decent performance in both situations, VR and non-VR. I'm also on a budget, not saying I'm looking for the absolute cheapest option but I don't have the kind of cash to buy a Titan either.

Depends on the games you're playing, at what settings, and the resolution. It goes without saying that the more GPU power you have, the better it will be. What is your budget?
 
Very quick question.

What brand of thermal compounds are best to go for these days?

I have an Arctic Silver 5 which I purchased over 5 years ago and has all dried up solid so I'm looking for something new.

Thanks.
 
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