Dusktildawn48
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Yeah I already have it and a mobo. Won it on a Facebook pc almost 2 years ago.
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"I Need a New PC!" 2015 Part 2. Read the OP. Rocking 2500K's until HBM2 and beyond.
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Beerman462
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I'm not quite ready to upgrade, but the 6500 vs 6600K decision is killing me. The 6600K is about $100 more after price difference and after market cooler. I just keep remembering that I wish I had go the 2500K back in the day over the 2400, but at the same time very few games stress my 2400 at this point. When they do stress it though....
The 6600 non K is a good middle ground I was looking at it for a while.
1600p or 1600x900 (which is 900p)
If you're just browsing the web, on board graphics would be sufficient.
Beerman462
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That's $20 more, but I don't see much a of a difference between that and the 6500. If I'm spending more I might as well go all the way. I think I'm going to get the 6600K I need a 4Ghz plus cpu for reasons.
Dusktildawn48
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1600p
Beerman462
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Nvidia GT 730 seems like a good choice.
Dusktildawn48
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Gt 720 1gb is what looking at
I'll chime in and say that if you're going for a quiet system the EVGA cards are not the best. Other manufacturers have much more efficient and quieter cooling systems.
Sir Abacus
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G2030 has 6 slice processor graphics. It should be fine for everyday usage.
Dusktildawn48
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So you don't think I need a dedicated gpu? Even at 2560x1600?
Beerman462
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Newegg shows the 720 for $43 and the 730 for $52-$56. The extra power and 1GB of ram would be worth it even if it's just a web browser imo.
$20 more for the speed difference - 6500 (3.6Ghz) v 6600 (3.9Ghz) seems reasonable. I'd get the 6600 over the 6500.
I haven't really run into that many games this generation that have been that CPU intensive, so I haven't really found the need to overclock much. I think a large part of it is that the consoles have such low CPU clock speeds.
Beerman462
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I Goggled G2030 graphics and people are playing GTA4, Battlefield 3 and Watchdogs on the integrated graphics. Low as hell settings and like 20fps, but it's working. It should be enough for 2D graphics. If you still feel the need for a DGPU you might as well take the 730 for $10-$12 more.
Yeah, it might be worth it. Even if I had a 2500K right now I feel like it's time for more/faster ram although I could definitely hold out. Skylake is a big upgrade either way.
Dusktildawn48
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A 120gb ssd should be enough for just basic Web browsing right?
Just install your OS to the SSD and have another HDD for most games/programs etc. Works fine as long as you don't fill your SSD up with crap.
Walker_Boh
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I haven't had any problems running games with my cpu, and as I said in my post, I don't overclock. Plus my ram are mixed, so changing that is more important.
Yes. In fact if you don't do much else but browse the web even 64GB is plenty.
Flintty
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Awesome, thanks so much. Yeah it is a pretty tight budget
I'm hoping to be able to swap out components later on as and when required to make the system better for her as here requiremetns grow. Thankfully I do have a copy of Windows 8 which I'm hoping can still upgrade to 10 for free 
holygeesus
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You could try backing off on the voltage a little and see if it remains stable, but those temps are fine. If it doesn't remain stable with a little less juice, just buy a new cooler for your CPU if you aren't happy.
ISee
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Awesome, thanks so much. Yeah it is a pretty tight budget
I think you can upgrade to win 10 till June 2016, or so.
To be honest when it comes to upgradeability the system isn't good, but I wanted to make it as cheap as possible, if upgradeability is a goal for you then I'd like to suggest a slightly more expansive and more modern LGA 1151 system.
It has a more powerful CPU, a much better motherboard, faster ram (and ddr4 support) and a more powerful power supply.
In the end you can easily swap out the pentium CPU with a modern and up to date skylake i3 or i5. Get a faster pascal gpu and you can even go for modern AAA titles.
How does msi rank?
So i'm finally making my way back into PC gaming. First order of business is to replace most of the innards of my aging PC desktop.
I'm not looking for bleeding-edge tech or 4K resolutions in 120FPS. I want to play games at 1080p with nice framerates without breaking the bank.
That said, here are the components i'm currently considering: (EDITED)
CPU - Intel Core i3-6100
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-H110M-S2H
GPU - Gigabyte Radeon R9380 - 4GB GDDR5
Memory - 2x4GB Crucial Ballistix Sport
SSD - Kingston SSDNow V300 120GB
I'm already covered on OS, monitor, peripherals, case, harddrive, CD/RW drive and 1000W power supply.
Any of you have any suggestions or advice concerning the parts I picked out?
I'm mainly thinking about wether the parts i've selected are offering the best bang for the buck.
I'm not looking for bleeding-edge tech or 4K resolutions in 120FPS. I want to play games at 1080p with nice framerates without breaking the bank.
That said, here are the components i'm currently considering: (EDITED)
CPU - Intel Core i3-6100
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-H110M-S2H
GPU - Gigabyte Radeon R9380 - 4GB GDDR5
Memory - 2x4GB Crucial Ballistix Sport
SSD - Kingston SSDNow V300 120GB
I'm already covered on OS, monitor, peripherals, case, harddrive, CD/RW drive and 1000W power supply.
Any of you have any suggestions or advice concerning the parts I picked out?
I'm mainly thinking about wether the parts i've selected are offering the best bang for the buck.
roadrunn3r
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I wouldn't recommend an FX AMD processor for gaming 3 years ago, even less in 2016. It makes no sense as a choice, bad performance, bad frametimes and old platform which means you miss on everything else. Hell even an i3 6100 is a LOT better for gaming if you are on a budget. Go skylake + DDR4 or at least haswell if you can find a deal.
I've just found out the same thing. I've already switched it out for a i3-6100 at the moment, which leaves me more room for upgrades in the future.
Thanks for the advice.
roadrunn3r
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You can even overclock it nicely if you can stretch your budget for a Z170 board. Better than a 2500K performance and close to modern i5's. You are welcome.
Young Magus
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It works grrrrrreat :')
Anything I should look out for in regards to upgrades down the line with the pc I just bought?
ISee
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There was an article in the January'16 pcgameshardware magazine (german). Overall 4C/4T vs 4C/8T can give up to ~15% in gaming scenarios @ same clock speeds, but also often enough the difference is not even worth mentioning. When it comes to encoding or editing going for an i7 is definetly the way to go as HTT helps a lot.
But overall for gaming, higher clockspeed are more important then HTT. So in the end going for an i5 K model for overclocking instead of a non overclockable i7 model makes much more sense when it comes to performance. Of course an i7 K model is the way to go if you are looking for the very best standard consumer solution.
You can also use their CPU index on their website.
Just scroll down, select 'gaming' in the 'Benchmark' labeled drop down box. Select 'Alle ein-/ausblenden' in the 'Produkte ein-/ausblenend' drop down box and then just select the CPUs you want to compare.
Burgess_101
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For the longest time now I have moved from a HAF X in order to slim down my PC. I currently have a HAF XB, which is nice but I am thinking smaller now.
I presume I would have to move to ITX which is fine, I am due an upgrade from 2700k soon. I have an MSI R9 390. The one thing I worry about is space for my HDDs I have 3 HDDs and an SSD. I only just have enough space for them in my HAF XB.
What are some good cases/must have equipment for such a build?
I presume I would have to move to ITX which is fine, I am due an upgrade from 2700k soon. I have an MSI R9 390. The one thing I worry about is space for my HDDs I have 3 HDDs and an SSD. I only just have enough space for them in my HAF XB.
What are some good cases/must have equipment for such a build?
So I have a spare 250gb ssd from samsung (850 evo).
I want to see if I can install it into my old pc.
Two problems:
1. I dont know exactly what I need
2. Pcpartpicker suggests some incompatibilities with my motherboard, wire issues idk
i5 3470
GA-B75M-D2V
750ti
1TB HDD
Coolermaster Gladiator 600 case
Optical drive
I want to see if I can install it into my old pc.
Two problems:
1. I dont know exactly what I need
2. Pcpartpicker suggests some incompatibilities with my motherboard, wire issues idk
i5 3470
GA-B75M-D2V
750ti
1TB HDD
Coolermaster Gladiator 600 case
Optical drive
Burgess_101
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As far as I can see it should work. Just make sure it is in your one SATA3 port. Also make sure in the BIOS it is connected in AHCI mode.
All you would need is a SATA3 cable, SATA power from your PSU and a place to put your SSD (if there are no 2.5" brackets you could use velcro or something for example).
Wouldn't that require removing the hdd though?
Only 1 sata 3 port?
Burgess_101
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What do you mean exactly?
That motherboard only has one SATA3 port so identify which one it is and place the SATA cable in that port.
I'm confused as to what port my hdd is connected to, as my wiring of this is a mess.
jediyoshi
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If your SATA3 (SATA 6Gb/s) is already occupied by your HDD, move it to one of the SATA2 (SATA 3Gb/s) ports. Then use the SATA3 for your SSD.
Burgess_101
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Flintty
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Burgess_101
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You'll have to get in there and have a look really, I can't do much over the internet. You could post pictures if you want and I can instruct further if needed.
Hands of Stone
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Would it be worth replacing the stock cooler of the 4590? After Friday I don't think I'll be touching the inside of my PC again for a while so it's kind of now or never thing.
My 2310 always ran hot (lost the luck of the CPU draw on that one) so I might be a bit more nervous about heat than I otherwise would be. But I have the cooler already, and it feels like a waste to not be using it.
My 2310 always ran hot (lost the luck of the CPU draw on that one) so I might be a bit more nervous about heat than I otherwise would be. But I have the cooler already, and it feels like a waste to not be using it.
Sir Abacus
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I would. Intel stock CPU coolers are... barely adequate.
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Got a ASUS Z97-E/USB 3.1 a couple of months ago it's been working fine for me, and it's probably the cheapest Z97 with SLI/Crossfire I found.
You guys scared the shit out of me and made me realize I put Z97 instead of Z170A. WHOOPS. And yeah, it's DDR4.
I have Windows 10 and other necessary productivity programs installed on a 120GB SSD acting as my main drive. Currently left with ~60GB free after everything needed was installed. So yea, plenty of room(mileage may vary of course depending on what software you want outside of the usual suspects).
I do have my Steam library sitting on a Western Digital 1TB mechanical drive however. Depending on how many games you wish to have installed at once, you will need a second drive for that stuff. Fortunately, a drive such as this is super cheap to come by these days. (And honestly, I have yet to run into a game with loading times that demand the extra cost of SSD speeds if you wish to avoid paying extra for capacity).
I'll have to search up on this one. Was looking at an Asrock Extreme 4, but I've heard about some weird issues with it.
ISee
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That looks entirely reasonable and for little extra cost. Thanks again for your help
You're welcome. I hope the build is going to work out for your daughter and you
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alexbull_uk
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What cooler would be good for a i7-6700K? Looking to upgrade but have no idea about the cooler.
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