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[roadrunn3r]

I dont mind spending that for the graphics card. So, assuming I have this right, I need to upgrde my power supply to handle the graphics card so if I were to buy a cx600 that would be good?

Yep that's right, although keep in mind the 1070 is very power efficient from what we've seen and it could work even on your 450W without any issues. The advice to get a higher capacity one is only if you decide to overclock your CPU as well.

And if I buy and install it now will it cause any issues with what I already have?

Nope, no issues.

 

[mjontrix]

No Kingston HyperX on the recommended list?

Best headset ive used - my brother enjoys his alot.

 

[ValfarHL]

I'm usually pretty much up to date on the hardware front, but my power train of a 2500k have made upgrades obsolete for so many years now.

I'm wondering if this thing will finally become a bottleneck with the 1070? I'm running it at 4.5Ghz.
Also currently using 2*4GB 1600Mhz memory.


Contemplating upgrading to 2*8GB 2400/2133Mhz DDR3 memory and a 1070. My ancient motherboard can run those speeds, so the only problem could be a potential bottleneck in the CPU.


Halp me, gaf.

 

[Tidalwave]

Yep that's right, although keep in mind the 1070 is very power efficient from what we've seen and it could work even on your 450W without any issues. The advice to get a higher capacity one is only if you decide to overclock your CPU as well.



Nope, no issues.

Thank you!
Edit:
Oop last question. The size of the parts can be an issue too right?

 

[britt0n]

Are there gaffers that take on building boxes for commission? The last of I built was in 2011 with a gtx 570 and I want a new one, however win my job and kids I just don't have the time or patience. I'd love to have someone put together something for me.

 

[camequipped]

So you had to buy a new one then?

Yup, apologies should have clear that up but everything booted as usual.

 

[riflen]

Anyone with a water loop thinking about new nvidia GPUs, Aquacomputer have announced their Kryographics full cover waterblock for the 1070 / 1080. German text.

The 1070 and 1080 boards are so similar that one waterblock design will fit either.

 

[rocK`]

I have this feeling I'm not getting the most out of my PC.

Here are the specs

Doom on High/Ultra lags it pretty bad. I haven't tried it with a new driver. Hitman on super high lags it as well.

For all things considered, an SLI 980'd machine should really be carrying me into this new wave of games, no?

--weird, noticed just now speccy says SLI was disabled, when I check in the GEForce panel:

says its enabled.

 

[Nyteshade517]

Thank you!
Edit:
Oop last question. The size of the parts can be an issue too right?

Yeah...you have to pay attention to the size of the components, case structure, how you do your wiring, etc

 

[mjontrix]

I have this feeling I'm not getting the most out of my PC.

Here are the specs

Doom on High/Ultra lags it pretty bad. I haven't tried it with a new driver. Hitman on super high lags it as well.

For all things considered, an SLI 980'd machine should really be carrying me into this new wave of games, no?

--weird, noticed just now speccy says SLI was disabled, when I check in the GEForce panel:

says its enabled.

Thought Doom didn't have sli enabled yet - was coming in a patch.

 

[Vuze]

I have this feeling I'm not getting the most out of my PC.

Here are the specs

Doom on High/Ultra lags it pretty bad. I haven't tried it with a new driver. Hitman on super high lags it as well.

For all things considered, an SLI 980'd machine should really be carrying me into this new wave of games, no?

--weird, noticed just now speccy says SLI was disabled, when I check in the GEForce panel:
says its enabled.

Last I heard was that Doom doesn't have SLI support, neither does Hitman in DX12 support mGPU. So keep that in mind. I never used SLI so I can't help you out much more.

 

[e90Mark]

I have a 6700k, 16gb ram and a 980ti. My next upgrade path will be 1080ti part and an M2 drive.

I'm running on a 850 evo at the moment, would you all agree that is about the mist I can do at the moment?

Pretty much. Make sure the M2 drive is NVMe, like a 950 Pro.

So guys, is there any huge con to going with mATX over ATX for my first build? I know mATX offers less ports and stuff.

No. I would even say that there's no cons.

 

[kennah]

Should I get a reference blower for my Fractal Node 304? I'm upgrading to a 1070 asap. My current card is a fan blower and I feel like it keeps the inside of the case smoking hot, resulting in my poor 4670k being unable to hit 4Ghz. Or is it not at all an issue?

$1 Shipped.

I don't think it would be a problem in the node? There is an intake vent right next to the card. I'd more look at the over all air flow. Are the front fans spinning? Sometimes they don't start if the voltage is at the lowest setting. Flick the switch on the back of the case to make them go faster. Is the exhaust at the back blocked? Is there a clear path from the intake to your CPU? What CPU cooler are you using? Is it installed correctly? Is there a cluster of cables blocking the air intakes at the front?

Are there gaffers that take on building boxes for commission? The last of I built was in 2011 with a gtx 570 and I want a new one, however win my job and kids I just don't have the time or patience. I'd love to have someone put together something for me.

I do it in Canada. No charge for GAFFERS. But I'm guessing you're in the UK.

 

[LilJoka]

Should I get a reference blower for my Fractal Node 304? I'm upgrading to a 1070 asap. My current card is a fan blower and I feel like it keeps the inside of the case smoking hot, resulting in my poor 4670k being unable to hit 4Ghz. Or is it not at all an issue?

Do not get the reference cooler. I have a Node 304 an do absolutely fine with a MSI GAMER 970. Since the 1070 is even lower TDP, get the non-reference cooler. Itll be quieter, more power phases, and bigger OC. You will thank us when the 1070 matches a 1080 once overclocked.

So guys, is there any huge con to going with mATX over ATX for my first build? I know mATX offers less ports and stuff.

No, and you should consider mITX.

 

[FireRises]

Damn the Define Nano S looks really nice. Almost debating getting one as I feel the Node 304 (my current case) is maybe just a tad too cramped on the space for my liking.

I'd go for it, it was $65 on amazon for the non-window version (which I chose for the sound dampening material over a window). I came from a cooler master 130, which worked, but was super cramped and literally had one option for a single 120mm fan.

This case is still SFF, yet I have 2 140mm fans in front, 120mm in the back and it has additional space for a 120mm on the bottom (which I'm ordering for extra gpu cooling) and room for 2 140/120mm fans at the top for exhaust.

I'll post more pictures as I've cleaned up the cables a bit more

 

[FireRises]

Down to opinion I guess but routing more cables to the front side isn't aesthetically pleasing to me. And the op thought so too.
.

agreed, I have 3 in the back and you can't tell... much better than SSDs inside, with their cables and logos plastered everywhere.

 

[WooHooAlex]

Building a gaming PC is something I've been wanting to do for 12+ years, but I think I'm finally gonna do it. Probably in the next few months. This is the preliminary build I came up with. I'd love to hear some feedback/suggestions. And also to double check for compatibility issues

Case - NZXT S340 ATX white ($65)
Motherboard - ASUS Z170-AR LGA 1151 ATX Intel Motherboard ($110) - $30 off when bundled with CPU
CPU - Intel Core i7-4790k ($290)
GPU - GTX 1070 ($380)
RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB - 2 x 8GB ($60)
Power - EVGA 220-G2-0750-XR 80 PLUS GOLD 750W ($110)

All that for roughly $1000, after savings and rebates.

I didn't include the HDD/SDD or the OS, but those are pretty straight forward, and I figure if I shop around when I get a little closer to actually buying everything. I should be able to grab both for less than $200.

I've never really had a gaming PC, is this a decent build for the money? And will it hold up for quite a few years?

 

[RamaTheVoice]

Building a gaming PC is something I've been wanting to do for 12+ years, but I think I'm finally gonna do it. Probably in the next few months. This is the preliminary build I came up with. I'd love to hear some feedback/suggestions. And also to double check for compatibility issues

Case - NZXT S340 ATX white ($65)
Motherboard - ASUS Z170-AR LGA 1151 ATX Intel Motherboard ($110) - $30 off when bundled with CPU
CPU - Intel Core i7-4790k ($290)
GPU - GTX 1070 ($380)
RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB - 2 x 8GB ($60)
Power - EVGA 220-G2-0750-XR 80 PLUS GOLD 750W ($110)

All that for roughly $1000, after savings and rebates.

I didn't include the HDD/SDD or the OS, but those are pretty straight forward, and I figure if I shop around when I get a little closer to actually buying everything. I should be able to grab both for less than $200.

I've never really had a gaming PC, is this a decent build for the money? And will it hold up for quite a few years?

Looks good, but maybe consider Skylake? Start with a 6600K and you can swap CPUs in a few years without having to change your MB, it'll future-proof your system a little longer.

 

[Thraktor]

Should I get a reference blower for my Fractal Node 304? I'm upgrading to a 1070 asap. My current card is a fan blower and I feel like it keeps the inside of the case smoking hot, resulting in my poor 4670k being unable to hit 4Ghz. Or is it not at all an issue?

What's your airflow like in the case? What kind of case fan configuration and CPU cooler do you have? I've got a Node 304 with a G3258 OC'd to 4.4GHz under a CM 212 EVO and a R9 280 (non-reference cooler) and haven't had any issues with CPU temperature. Make sure all your case fans are running, and make sure your CPU cooler fan is running the same direction (airflow with the stock fan config is back of case to front of case, afaik). Then, just try to keep all the cables out of the path of the airflow if at all possible. It's not the easiest case in the world to do cable management in, but it's worth taking your time to do what you can.

 

[WooHooAlex]

Looks good, but maybe consider Skylake? Start with a 6600K and you can swap CPUs in a few years without having to change your MB, it'll future-proof your system a little longer.

That's good advice, thank you.
And it saves me about $70.

 

[puebla]

Building a gaming PC is something I've been wanting to do for 12+ years, but I think I'm finally gonna do it. Probably in the next few months. This is the preliminary build I came up with. I'd love to hear some feedback/suggestions. And also to double check for compatibility issues

Case - NZXT S340 ATX white ($65)
Motherboard - ASUS Z170-AR LGA 1151 ATX Intel Motherboard ($110) - $30 off when bundled with CPU
CPU - Intel Core i7-4790k ($290)
GPU - GTX 1070 ($380)
RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB - 2 x 8GB ($60)
Power - EVGA 220-G2-0750-XR 80 PLUS GOLD 750W ($110)

All that for roughly $1000, after savings and rebates.

I didn't include the HDD/SDD or the OS, but those are pretty straight forward, and I figure if I shop around when I get a little closer to actually buying everything. I should be able to grab both for less than $200.

I've never really had a gaming PC, is this a decent build for the money? And will it hold up for quite a few years?

That is a good build. Also, if you're buying an intel processor that ends with a "K", those are meant for overclocking, so get a decent cooler and you're off.

 

[UncleGrumpskin]

So I'm buying a new case, because a long time ago, I accidentally plugged a usb in the front the wrong way, it ended up breaking all of the front ones. I was curious as to whether I would have to replace the motherboard too, which was something I was planning on doing anyway. Would the new case's usb ports on the front still work with my current mobo?

I'm not sure if that ended up screwing up the mobo case pins as well, since I had to unplug the usb case connectors because the computer wouldn't start with them plugged in still.

 

[LilJoka]

Building a gaming PC is something I've been wanting to do for 12+ years, but I think I'm finally gonna do it. Probably in the next few months. This is the preliminary build I came up with. I'd love to hear some feedback/suggestions. And also to double check for compatibility issues

Case - NZXT S340 ATX white ($65)
Motherboard - ASUS Z170-AR LGA 1151 ATX Intel Motherboard ($110) - $30 off when bundled with CPU
CPU - Intel Core i7-4790k ($290)
GPU - GTX 1070 ($380)
RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB - 2 x 8GB ($60)
Power - EVGA 220-G2-0750-XR 80 PLUS GOLD 750W ($110)

All that for roughly $1000, after savings and rebates.

I didn't include the HDD/SDD or the OS, but those are pretty straight forward, and I figure if I shop around when I get a little closer to actually buying everything. I should be able to grab both for less than $200.

I've never really had a gaming PC, is this a decent build for the money? And will it hold up for quite a few years?

Some things to think about:
GTX 1070 will run on a decent 550W PSU.
750W would be ok if you want to SLI.
My advice on SLI, do it now with the GTX 1080, or forget about SLI and go for a single GPU system. Later when you would have otherwise SLI'd, sell the old GPU and buy the new XX70 card. This saves you from the inconsistent results of multi GPU setups, means you can have a smaller PC, a cooler and quieter PC and a more efficient PC.

Considering the above, and my advice to leave SLI, go for a good modular 550W PSU, a mATX or mITX case and motherbaord to match.

Warning on white cases, dust is more visible, there will be a bit more upkeep on cleaning required. If you want to minimise cleaning efforts, buy a case with as much flat edges as possible.

And as others pointed out, you want a skylake build (6700k,/6600k) and a Z170 board.
If you arent ever going to overclock (which i dont advise), get a H series baord and non-K CPU. Be aware, with a H series board, you cant run RAM more than 2133Mhz, a lot of reviews lately show 3000Mhz as being a sweet spot.

So I'm buying a new case, because a long time ago, I accidentally plugged a usb in the front the wrong way, it ended up breaking all of the front ones. I was curious as to whether I would have to replace the motherboard too, which was something I was planning on doing anyway. Would the new case's usb ports on the front still work with my current mobo?

I'm not sure if that ended up screwing up the mobo case pins as well, since I had to unplug the usb case connectors because the computer wouldn't start with them plugged in still.

Very likely its just the case USB ports that are shorting something on the board, so a new case should fix that. Usually the case suppliers will have spares of these modules - you may have to contact them directly.

 

[UncleGrumpskin]

Very likely its just the case USB ports that are shorting something on the board, so a new case should fix that. Usually the case suppliers will have spares of these modules - you may have to contact them directly.

Ok, that's a relief!

Also another question I had that I forgot to mention. A while back my computer wouldn't boot completely, and would get stuck on what I think was a motherboard related screen (it was before the windows 7 logo popped up, it was basically a black screen with a bunch of scrolling text). I researched it a bit while it was happening and someone mentioned it could be the dvd drive. I unplugged the drive from the mobo and it fixed it.

So I was curious as to whether this was a problem with the dvd drive or the mobo, and which one would need to be replaced, if that's the only way to fix the problem besides just not having a drive anymore (which I barely used anyway).

 

[Rand0m TAG]

I need help building a PC that can run this
a Quad Core, 3.0 GHz or faster processor,
16-20 GB of RAM,
a high-performance, DirectX 11-capable video card with at least 4 GB of on-board, dedicated VRAM

Possible to do under 2000$ Canadian?

 

[legendaryskitch]

I need help building a PC that can run this
a Quad Core, 3.0 GHz or faster processor,
16-20 GB of RAM,
a high-performance, DirectX 11-capable video card with at least 4 GB of on-board, dedicated VRAM

Possible to do under 2000$ Canadian?

Even with the low exchange rate of the Canadian dollar, you'd still likely be way lower than $2000. You could probably get it under $1000 us dollars so probably under $1500 Canadian dollars

 

[LilJoka]

Ok, that's a relief!

Also another question I had that I forgot to mention. A while back my computer wouldn't boot completely, and would get stuck on what I think was a motherboard related screen (it was before the windows 7 logo popped up, it was basically a black screen with a bunch of scrolling text). I researched it a bit while it was happening and someone mentioned it could be the dvd drive. I unplugged the drive from the mobo and it fixed it.

So I was curious as to whether this was a problem with the dvd drive or the mobo, and which one would need to be replaced, if that's the only way to fix the problem besides just not having a drive anymore (which I barely used anyway).

Change the boot order to boot the HDDs before the DVD. Its a known issue with older builds.

 

[Big Chungus]

Are 144Hz monitors really worth buying?

 

[23qwerty]

Are 144Hz monitors really worth buying?

Yes. Especially with gsync/freesync. Difference between 60fps and 144fps is huge.

 

[chaosblade]

I somehow managed to "break" the molex plug on my PCIe USB3 card. It just popped out of place and was held together by the metal power connectors coming out the back. I was able to clip the feet push it back in place, might glue it or something. No reason this shouldn't work properly, right?

http://imgur.com/a/zt2LP

 

[Durante]

I'm usually pretty much up to date on the hardware front, but my power train of a 2500k have made upgrades obsolete for so many years now.

I'm wondering if this thing will finally become a bottleneck with the 1070? I'm running it at 4.5Ghz.
Also currently using 2*4GB 1600Mhz memory.


Contemplating upgrading to 2*8GB 2400/2133Mhz DDR3 memory and a 1070. My ancient motherboard can run those speeds, so the only problem could be a potential bottleneck in the CPU.


Halp me, gaf.

You can stick with that 2500k at 4.5 GHz for a 1070. However, the memory upgrade is important.

 

[LilJoka]

I somehow managed to "break" the molex plug on my PCIe USB3 card. It just popped out of place and was held together by the metal power connectors coming out the back. I was able to clip the feet push it back in place, might glue it or something. No reason this shouldn't work properly, right?

http://imgur.com/a/zt2LP

Should be fine.

 

[mrklaw]

Ordered a noctua u12S for my mini ITX build (Asus z170i motherboard, bitfenix prodigy case). Wanted a u14s but spent ages trying to figure out if some other coolers would go in but it is difficult to find out in SFF builds, considering the number of variables - width of case around motherboard in case the cooler overhangs, ram clearance, GPU card slot blocking, height, will it clash with specific case drive bays, optical drives etc

Almost made me wish I'd gone with a larger motherboard

All the parts should be here on Wednesday. Then just the 'how long is a piece of string' wait for gtx1070 cards to come out

 

[opticalmace]

I need help building a PC that can run this
a Quad Core, 3.0 GHz or faster processor,
16-20 GB of RAM,
a high-performance, DirectX 11-capable video card with at least 4 GB of on-board, dedicated VRAM

Possible to do under 2000$ Canadian?

What game is this?

 

[Apoleptica]

You should use Ninite! Pick and choose and get all of your installers.

www.ninite.com

Wow that's cool. Thanks!

 

[OkayRene]

GameSpot 1070 review

 

[Garrett Hawke]

Lmao I need one so bad.

 

[nubbe]

Are 144Hz monitors really worth buying?

yes, 60 FPS feels as trashy as 30 FPS when you get used to 144

 

[roadrunn3r]

GameSpot 1070 review

Hmm Bioshock Infinite and Shadow of Mordor really? Why not Half Life 2 and Fear. And no frametimes mention whatsover.

Real review here. You are welcome.

 

[K' Dash]

GameSpot 1070 review

No 980ti comparison? GameSpot is a fucking joke as usual.

 

[kennah]

That review is almost making me regret the very very very cheap 780 I'm buying this week. (But who are we kidding, there's no way I'd be able to blow $700 on a video card)

Spoiler

Canadian pricing + water block + 13% tax

 

[Woffls]

Has anyone with X99 had issues with USB controllers just constantly not functioning properly? I've had endless problems with my MSI X99S SLi since I got it like two years ago, and at least one of the controllers has just never worked consistently.

I've tried installing different drivers for the three controllers this stupid board has, but I've just gotten nowhere. The problem is devices just disconnecting. Only device I've noticed as not being affected is an external HDD, but it affects wifi sticks, flash drives, bluetooth things etc

Any guidance would be super appreciated.

 

[BobLoblaw]

So I've finally decided that I'm gonna drop like $4k on a new computer build this summer. Please pray for me.

 

[Bboy AJ]

$1 Shipped.

I don't think it would be a problem in the node? There is an intake vent right next to the card. I'd more look at the over all air flow. Are the front fans spinning? Sometimes they don't start if the voltage is at the lowest setting. Flick the switch on the back of the case to make them go faster. Is the exhaust at the back blocked? Is there a clear path from the intake to your CPU? What CPU cooler are you using? Is it installed correctly? Is there a cluster of cables blocking the air intakes at the front?



I do it in Canada. No charge for GAFFERS. But I'm guessing you're in the UK.

Do not get the reference cooler. I have a Node 304 an do absolutely fine with a MSI GAMER 970. Since the 1070 is even lower TDP, get the non-reference cooler. Itll be quieter, more power phases, and bigger OC. You will thank us when the 1070 matches a 1080 once overclocked.



No, and you should consider mITX.

What's your airflow like in the case? What kind of case fan configuration and CPU cooler do you have? I've got a Node 304 with a G3258 OC'd to 4.4GHz under a CM 212 EVO and a R9 280 (non-reference cooler) and haven't had any issues with CPU temperature. Make sure all your case fans are running, and make sure your CPU cooler fan is running the same direction (airflow with the stock fan config is back of case to front of case, afaik). Then, just try to keep all the cables out of the path of the airflow if at all possible. It's not the easiest case in the world to do cable management in, but it's worth taking your time to do what you can.

Thanks, guys. I have a 212 Evo in there. I'm wondering if I screwed something up with fans, like you mentioned Thraktor. It's just strange how my 4670k can't do 4Ghz. Possible, yes, but strange.

Cable management is a total pain in the case. I bought a modular PSU to clean things up a bit. I'll try again when the 1070 gets in. Thanks again.

 

[lostsupper]

So I've finally decided that I'm gonna drop like $4k on a new computer build this summer. Please pray for me.

Foolishness. It would cost half that for the best components possible.

 

[Aikidoka]

I got a problem with steam looking like a blurry mess on my 4K screen. Does Steam just use low res font or is there any way to scale it to not look like garbage?

 

[LilJoka]

Thanks, guys. I have a 212 Evo in there. I'm wondering if I screwed something up with fans, like you mentioned Thraktor. It's just strange how my 4670k can't do 4Ghz. Possible, yes, but strange.

Cable management is a total pain in the case. I bought a modular PSU to clean things up a bit. I'll try again when the 1070 gets in. Thanks again.

You need to come up with clever ways to do cabling in this case, some tips:

Pull the pcie cable slack through the front panel.
Mount the SSD behind the front panel.
Take the 24 pin ATX and 8 pin CPU power around the PSU (between the PSU and the front panel).
Take the fan cabling along the top strut of the case near the GPU.
Make sure slack for front panel cabling is left between the front panel and case. Some can be hidden under the motherboard.

I have some pics I can share tomorrow on how to make this very clean.

CPU may not do 4ghz if it's a bad chip or just not got the right settings.

Make sure the 212 fan is blowing out towards the rear fan. Rear fan should be exhausting hot air.

Either way, wait for a non ref design GPU.

 

[Tidalwave]

Yep that's right, although keep in mind the 1070 is very power efficient from what we've seen and it could work even on your 450W without any issues. The advice to get a higher capacity one is only if you decide to overclock your CPU as well.

.

Out of curiosity, why do you recommend the 1070 over the 1080?

 

[Majine]

My PC won't post when in dual channel. I tried both 1-3 and 2-4, but nope. What can I do about it, and most importantly, does it matter if I'm only going to game on the PC?

Single channel works fine.

 

[kipsta]

So I just got an i7 6700k along with a NZXT x31. I've noticed that when idling on the desktop and doing simple tasks my CPU temp hovers around 20-30 but can spike for a second to 50 then right back down to the 20's. When running prime95 it maxed out at 70.

Are these spikes to around 50 for a split second normal?

Also after playing an hour of Fallout 4 with realtemp running in the background, the cpu hit a maximum of 71!

Are these temps normal for skylake or what?

So I decided to run the Small FFT test in Prime95 as opposed to the Blend test i ran earlier. The temp shot up to 91! I almost had a damn heart attack! Is this normal??!?!?!

Ambient temps are very cool 15ish. It's winter.
(Everything is running at STOCK)

Thanks.