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LilJoka

Member
Looks like stock is 1.2v.

My cooling situation isn't the best (although better than 'stock'), so I'll see what I can do at stock voltage to start.

Anything in the 4.5 range would be awesome.

4.5Ghz will be 1.3-1.4v area on a 6700k.
Youll be cooling limited before vcore limited.
 

tripleV

Member
I think your gaming and work experience will benefit more from the monitor + GPU upgrade but then again I upgraded to the XB270HU from a crappy TN 1080p60 monitor so you might feel less blown away considering you are already used to 144hz. Extra resolution, IPS + Gsync are still great reasons to upgrade though.

E: Oh, just seen the previous post. SSD (if you didn't forget to mention it) is a great upgrade too!

I'm kind of leaning this way as well, and the only thing holding me back is never having seen this monitor in person and the effects of g-sync, extra res and IPS in motion. I'm sure once I do I would be blown away haha. Maybe the upgrade to Skylake is too soon for me, having just built the pc last year. I definitely agree that I need an SSD though, thanks for replying
 

Vipu

Banned
Looks like I need an SSD pronto! Never used one so I guess I just don't know what I'm missing, thanks for the advice on the cpu :)

Good, going for SSD will be biggest upgrade you could ever have.
You will see so big difference that your saw will be open for few minutes.
 

OmegaDL50

Member
I was going to put this in the GTX 1070 discussion but since this is a more general computing question in regards to framerate I'd probably get a better answer here.

Having just replaced my aging HD7950 with a GTX 1070 there was something I've been wondering in regards to the reported frame rate I see on some games I've been playing with VSync disabled.

My PC tower is set up in my bedroom and shares my HDTV as a primary display alongside my consoles.

It's a 32 inch 1080p 60hz display. A Toshiba Regza 32RV530U, I've owned this TV since 2008 so it's ancient compared to modern displays. However I bought this TV back then because of 4 HDMI ports, almost non-existent input lag, 4:4:4 Chroma / Full RGB support.

I've been reluctant to part with my TV for a bigger one on the basis of finding another one that would double as a good PC monitor outside of the newer 2016 Vizio M series that supports HDR (which I have a 48 Vizio E in my living room), but I'm diverging from the point, so getting back to the question I want to ask.

My current TV is 60hz.

However most games I've benchmarked have exceeded 60fps, Grid Autosport averages 120fps at the absolute max settings, Borderlands 2 is 160fps. The Witcher 3 fluctuates between 70 and 90 in Novigrad depending on how many NPCs are on screen. All of these games no V-Sync, all the settings at their maximum values, (Hairworks disabled on Witcher 3 however).

My question is because my HDTV is 60hz, am I really benefiting at these higher frame rates, or because of the 60hz of my TV am I hard capped at 60fps regardless of what the in-game FPS limit actually says?

To be honest I don't mind if I'm maxed out at 60fps, in fact I was okay playing The Witcher 3 locked to 30fps when I had the HD 7950, but I just wonder about the new higher frame rates I'm seeing and being truly able to take advantage of them without needing to resort to buying some expensive G-Sync monitor. As long as I never dip below 30 or experience stuttering, I'm happy with what I have currently.
 

Vipu

Banned
I was going to put this in the GTX 1070 discussion but since this is a more general computing question in regards to framerate I'd probably get a better answer here.

Having just replaced my aging HD7950 with a GTX 1070 there was something I've been wondering in regards to the reported frame rate I see on some games I've been playing with VSync disabled.

My PC tower is set up in my bedroom and shares my HDTV as a primary display alongside my consoles.

It's a 32 inch 1080p 60hz display. A Toshiba Regza 32RV530U, I've owned this TV since 2008 so it's ancient compared to modern displays. However I bought this TV back then because of 4 HDMI ports, almost non-existent input lag, 4:4:4 Chroma / Full RGB support.

I've been reluctant to part with my TV for a bigger one on the basis of finding another one that would double as a good PC monitor outside of the newer 2016 Vizio M series that supports HDR (which I have a 48 Vizio E in my living room), but I'm diverging from the point, so getting back to the question I want to ask.

My current TV is 60hz.

However most games I've benchmarked have exceeded 60fps, Grid Autosport averages 120fps at the absolute max settings, Borderlands 2 is 160fps. The Witcher 3 fluctuates between 70 and 90 in Novigrad depending on how many NPCs are on screen. All of these games no V-Sync, all the settings at their maximum values, (Hairworks disabled on Witcher 3 however).

My question is because my HDTV is 60hz, am I really benefiting at these higher frame rates, or because of the 60hz of my TV am I hard capped at 60fps regardless of what the in-game FPS limit actually says?

To be honest I don't mind if I'm maxed out at 60fps, in fact I was okay playing The Witcher 3 locked to 30fps when I had the HD 7950, but I just wonder about the new higher frame rates I'm seeing and being truly able to take advantage of them without needing to resort to buying some expensive G-Sync monitor. As long as I never dip below 30 or experience stuttering, I'm happy with what I have currently.

You have less input lag from high framerates, but if you have those frames you should REALLY get some 144hz+ screen. Difference is HUGE.
Also TV + "almost non-existent input lag" hmmm dont think those exist, pc screens have almost non-existent input lag.
 

LilJoka

Member
I was going to put this in the GTX 1070 discussion but since this is a more general computing question in regards to framerate I'd probably get a better answer here.

Having just replaced my aging HD7950 with a GTX 1070 there was something I've been wondering in regards to the reported frame rate I see on some games I've been playing with VSync disabled.

My PC tower is set up in my bedroom and shares my HDTV as a primary display alongside my consoles.

It's a 32 inch 1080p 60hz display. A Toshiba Regza 32RV530U, I've owned this TV since 2008 so it's ancient compared to modern displays. However I bought this TV back then because of 4 HDMI ports, almost non-existent input lag, 4:4:4 Chroma / Full RGB support.

I've been reluctant to part with my TV for a bigger one on the basis of finding another one that would double as a good PC monitor outside of the newer 2016 Vizio M series that supports HDR (which I have a 48 Vizio E in my living room), but I'm diverging from the point, so getting back to the question I want to ask.

My current TV is 60hz.

However most games I've benchmarked have exceeded 60fps, Grid Autosport averages 120fps at the absolute max settings, Borderlands 2 is 160fps. The Witcher 3 fluctuates between 70 and 90 in Novigrad depending on how many NPCs are on screen. All of these games no V-Sync, all the settings at their maximum values, (Hairworks disabled on Witcher 3 however).

My question is because my HDTV is 60hz, am I really benefiting at these higher frame rates, or because of the 60hz of my TV am I hard capped at 60fps regardless of what the in-game FPS limit actually says?

To be honest I don't mind if I'm maxed out at 60fps, in fact I was okay playing The Witcher 3 locked to 30fps when I had the HD 7950, but I just wonder about the new higher frame rates I'm seeing and being truly able to take advantage of them without needing to resort to buying some expensive G-Sync monitor. As long as I never dip below 30 or experience stuttering, I'm happy with what I have currently.

Turn on NVidia adaptive sync and forget about it.
 

appaws

Banned
Yeah it's shorted. Fuck. It was an MSI Z170A PC Mate. Anyone have any suggestions for a good 1151 Mobo with decent OC ability? I'd also rather not break the bank completely (live in Canada so the 1070 was already over half a grand).

Would you recommend the Asus Z170A or the Gigabyte Z170X Gaming? I'm a bit wary of MSI to be honest. My previous build was using an Asus, and I swear, that board took some punishment.

Z170-A is great, and priced reasonably.

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Naked and afraid.

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Not naked anymore. Had her shirt on.

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Scratch that. That's not a shirt, that's an apron. Her back is still exposed.

Bad ass, dude. Bad ass!
 

OmegaDL50

Member
You have less input lag from high framerates, but if you have those frames you should REALLY get some 144hz+ screen. Difference is HUGE.
Also TV + "almost non-existent input lag" hmmm dont think those exist, pc screens have almost non-existent input lag.

Most HDTVs have higher response time compared to PC Monitors, yes. Also response time and input lag are two very different things. I'm not talking about response time.

AVSforums and frame counters have given the TV I have high marks in regards input time. I play alot fast paced 2D Fighters (Guilty Gear and MvC2 for example) and shoot em ups such as Ikaruga, Mushihimesama, Crimzon Clover, etc. I would easily notice input lag considering the strict timing requirements of most of these sorts of games have. I have a very, very low tolerance for response of when I press the button on my controller / arcade stick and the action isn't instantaneous on screen.
 

dmann

Member
Hey everybody, looking for some advice here if possible. I've come into a situation where I'm able to upgrade my pc but not sure which direction to go...my specs right now are below:

• i5 4690k @ 4.6
• msi z97 Krait edition mobo
• 8gb ddr3 1600
• 1tb hdd
• gtx 980
• 650 watt power supply
• 24" Benq xl2411z

I have about $2500 (CDN) to spend and I've decided I want to go with a 1080, but I have funds left over. I was either going to go Skylake and purchase an i7 6700k, 16gb ddr4, new motherboard and 512gb ssd...OR...simply go with the 1080 and purchase the acer predator xb271hu.

I guess I'm just not sure whether the upgrade to skylake is worth the extra money at this moment or if I'm going to get a bigger bang for the buck by going with the new monitor. Any suggestions?

I am in the same boat as you (similar pc setup except i have an i7 4770k). I am planning on upgrading to a GTX 1080, a larger 1TB SSD, probably get a 27" G-sync monitor as well and debating on an Oculus or Vive. I think my current cpu will hold for another 2-3 years.
 

tripleV

Member
I am in the same boat as you (similar pc setup except i have an i7 4770k). I am planning on upgrading to a GTX 1080, a larger 1TB SSD, probably get a 27" G-sync monitor as well and debating on an Oculus or Vive. I think my current cpu will hold for another 2-3 years.

Yes, after hearing from a few people in this thread I definitely believe I'm going this route as well. Have fun in VR! I love it (have a vive on my end.)
 

th3dude

Member
4.5Ghz will be 1.3-1.4v area on a 6700k.
Youll be cooling limited before vcore limited.

Cool. I'm running a Corsair H60 that is several years old. It seems to be still doing OK though. I was running stock 4.0 at about 20c last night idling and 30-40 under light load.

It's starting to make some noises but it seems to be working OK. Starting to wonder if I should swap it out with a 212 or something.
 

vector824

Member
Apparently the GPU is sold out with no restock available. New Egg has another that wants you to thermal paste the base-plate of the GPU. Which, I'm not sure if the same thing you listed since PC Part Picker no longer has an image for it due to it being out of stock.

Should I just wait until mid-September for the GPU's to restock? It wouldn't be a big deal. My 760 is totally fan cooled with no other maintenance for it, so if the one you listed is similar I can just wait for NewEgg and the other places to stock it again.

Yeah if you don't want to wait it's fine. Gigabyte, ASUS, and EVGA are all good brands if you want to shop around also.
 

Pagusas

Elden Member
so im finishing out my planned HTPC 4k Build (well future 4k.. given Deus Ex's performance looks, I imagine a GPU upgrade in 2 years will be in the works, but I hope the i7 6700k will hold me over for a nother 5+ years like the 2600k has for me)

Anyway, the case will be either a Silverstone GD09 or Factal 605. These are the best cases I can find that are under 7.5" tall (which is my requirement, no taller)


Both are horizontal HTPC cases, both will be height limited for the heatsink and fan, and both can not support a 240mm rad if I go water cooling, so I'd have to go with a 120 rad, in which case I'd rather just use the best HSF rather than mess with a water setup.

Saying that, I'm limited to 138mm in total HSF height off the mobo. thats very limiting when the best HSF's are usually 160+mm in height.

I'll be cooling the following setup:

CPU: Intel 6700k (Yes I want to overclock)
Mobo: ASUS MAXIMUS VIII GENE (Mini-ATX Version)
Memory: G.SKILL TridentZ (3600mhz)
GPU: MSI 1080GTX (Havnt picked out which cooling version yet)
SSD: Keeping my Samsung 840evo
PSU: Keeping my modular Corsair 750

Right now I'm Leaning towards using a Notuca C14-s HSF (http://noctua.at/en/nh-c14s.html) It seems to get great reviews and handle moderate OCing well.

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The hardest part of all of this is this HTPC will go in a media closet that can warm up a bit, so I'm fighting some ambient temps.


Also considering getting the Corsair Bulldog case and going ITX, but I have reservations about how tight it is in it.




Seeing Hotspot maps of these HTPC cases (they all are pretty much the same..) makes me think I'll need to do some modifying to get it performing its best. Specifically using the C14-S in a "Push Air UP" method and cut a 120mm hole in the top of the case directly above the CPU and put a super slim 120mm exhause fan, releaving heat pressure from the top. I'll do a possitie pressure case having all the side fans blowing inward.
 

Iced

Member
Quick question: I have my 6700k using a negative offset voltage of 0.070, and at idle it sits around 0.65 volts. Is that too low?
 

LilJoka

Member
Quick question: I have my 6700k using a negative offset voltage of 0.070, and at idle it sits around 0.65 volts. Is that too low?

If it doesn't crash at idle, then it's fine.
It's very hard to test idle stability.
If your using an asus board, use adaptive vcore to prevent the offset effecting non OC multis.
Otherwise, reduce LLC and pump up the vcore offset.
 

Iced

Member
If it doesn't crash at idle, then it's fine.
It's very hard to test idle stability.
If your using an asus board, use adaptive vcore to prevent the offset effecting non OC multis.
Otherwise, reduce LLC and pump up the vcore offset.

I switched over to adaptive vcore last night, but I've been having trouble getting stability, even though I'm getting the same vcore numbers in cpu-z. From what I've read online, CPU SVID needs to be enabled on Asus boards in order to use adaptive voltage, but Asus also recommends not having SVID enabled when overclocking. Not sure if there's a connection there.
 
I need some help because I'm not hip to all those GPU's and how well they work with some processors. What is the best graphics card I can throw in this PC without bottlenecking it? I know it's weak, but I came up on this PC and I'd love to put a little something in it to make it more interesting to use.

Optiplex 790
i5-2400 @ 3.1ghz
8gb RAM
 

th3dude

Member
I need some help because I'm not hip to all those GPU's and how well they work with some processors. What is the best graphics card I can throw in this PC without bottlenecking it? I know it's weak, but I came up on this PC and I'd love to put a little something in it to make it more interesting to use.

Optiplex 790
i5-2400 @ 3.1ghz
8gb RAM

Depending on your budget, a GTX 1060 might be a nice addition to that machine. Although I'm partial to Nvidia cards myself.
 
so im finishing out my planned HTPC 4k Build (well future 4k.. given Deus Ex's performance looks, I imagine a GPU upgrade in 2 years will be in the works, but I hope the i7 6700k will hold me over for a nother 5+ years like the 2600k has for me)

Anyway, the case will be either a Silverstone GD09 or Factal 605. These are the best cases I can find that are under 7.5" tall (which is my requirement, no taller)



Both are horizontal HTPC cases, both will be height limited for the heatsink and fan, and both can not support a 240mm rad if I go water cooling, so I'd have to go with a 120 rad, in which case I'd rather just use the best HSF rather than mess with a water setup.

Saying that, I'm limited to 138mm in total HSF height off the mobo. thats very limiting when the best HSF's are usually 160+mm in height.

I'll be cooling the following setup:

CPU: Intel 6700k (Yes I want to overclock)
Mobo: ASUS MAXIMUS VIII GENE (Mini-ATX Version)
Memory: G.SKILL TridentZ (3600mhz)
GPU: MSI 1080GTX (Havnt picked out which cooling version yet)
SSD: Keeping my Samsung 840evo
PSU: Keeping my modular Corsair 750

Right now I'm Leaning towards using a Notuca C14-s HSF (http://noctua.at/en/nh-c14s.html) It seems to get great reviews and handle moderate OCing well.


The hardest part of all of this is this HTPC will go in a media closet that can warm up a bit, so I'm fighting some ambient temps.


Also considering getting the Corsair Bulldog case and going ITX, but I have reservations about how tight it is in it.




Seeing Hotspot maps of these HTPC cases (they all are pretty much the same..) makes me think I'll need to do some modifying to get it performing its best. Specifically using the C14-S in a "Push Air UP" method and cut a 120mm hole in the top of the case directly above the CPU and put a super slim 120mm exhause fan, releaving heat pressure from the top. I'll do a possitie pressure case having all the side fans blowing inward.

The Gene is a micro ATX (mATX), not mini (ITX). Delid that CPU. It'll drop your temps by 10-20C.
 

LilJoka

Member
I switched over to adaptive vcore last night, but I've been having trouble getting stability, even though I'm getting the same vcore numbers in cpu-z. From what I've read online, CPU SVID needs to be enabled on Asus boards in order to use adaptive voltage, but Asus also recommends not having SVID enabled when overclocking. Not sure if there's a connection there.

Yeah it's finicky. Mine occasionally runs into a boot loop on adaptive.
Set the adaptive vcore to 1.3v then apply some +ive offset.
You generally need to run a bit higher vcore for adaptive/offset vs fixed.
I beleive SVID should be enabled with adaptive.
 

SmokedMeat

Gamer™
Is it odd to upgrade a PSU?

My current setup:
MSI 1070
I5-4690k
16GB DDR3

I have a standard EVGA 500 watt 80 white rated PSU. Thinking of switching it out to a modular EVGA supernova G2 650 watt 80 Gold.

I'm getting by just fine with the 500 watt PSU, but was thinking it would clean my wiring up, and be more efficient.

Go for it? Or wait until the 500 watt dies?
 

sueil

Member
Hi I am looking at a new PC and replacing my old one.

My current specs are

Your Current Specs: i5 3570k oced to 4.2 / ddr 3 16 gb 2x8 / asus mobo can't remember the exact model off hand. evga 780 GTX / 650 watt seasonic psu / case i have no idea what case i bought it was years ago / 256 gb ssd, 2 tb internal hdd, 300 gb internal hdd, 300 gb internal hdd, 1 tb internal hdd, 3 tb external hdd


Budget: like to keep it under 3000 USD + USA

Main Use: Rate 1-5. 5 being Highest: light gaming: 1, Gaming: 5 Emulation (PS2/Wii/Wii U),:4 Video Editing,:0 Streaming games in HD: 3, 3D/Model work (and what program)(none), General Usage (Word, Web, 1080p playback).(4)

Monitor Resolution: I'm current using 2 1080p monitors 1 a 120 hz as my gaming and another a ips for videos

List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: prefer 120 fps for games but usually settle for 60 fps or even 30 in order to get it to look good.

Looking to reuse any parts?: not reusing any parts

When will you build?: sometime in the next month

Will you be overclocking?: Yes

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/72sGqk I put this together in a few minutes as roughly what I am looking for.
 

Mareg

Member
Is it odd to upgrade a PSU?

My current setup:
MSI 1070
I5-4690k
16GB DDR3

I have a standard EVGA 500 watt 80 white rated PSU. Thinking of switching it out to a modular EVGA supernova G2 650 watt 80 Gold.

I'm getting by just fine with the 500 watt PSU, but was thinking it would clean my wiring up, and be more efficient.

Go for it? Or wait until the 500 watt dies?

To be honest you have ample watts for your setup.
It is nice to have a clean setup for air flow and it is visually nicer if you have a clear side panel. To save money on electricity, I don't think so.
 

Pagusas

Elden Member
The Gene is a micro ATX (mATX), not mini (ITX). Delid that CPU. It'll drop your temps by 10-20C.

I meant micro, always get the two words swapped as you'd think it should be micro would be smaller than mini.

Regardless, is deliding safe? I imagine it would be easy to destroy a cpu by accident that way (the removal part).
 

Mareg

Member
I meant micro, always get the two words swapped as you'd think it should be micro would be smaller than mini.

Regardless, is deliding safe? I imagine it would be easy to destroy a cpu by accident that way (the removal part).

Wow didn't know that was a thing. I'll have to see a video of it. In my head that sound really risky stuff. Maybe that would make the cpu less "protected".
There has to be a reason for that layer to exist.
 

Rufus

Member
Is it odd to upgrade a PSU?

My current setup:
MSI 1070
I5-4690k
16GB DDR3

I have a standard EVGA 500 watt 80 white rated PSU. Thinking of switching it out to a modular EVGA supernova G2 650 watt 80 Gold.

I'm getting by just fine with the 500 watt PSU, but was thinking it would clean my wiring up, and be more efficient.

Go for it? Or wait until the 500 watt dies?
Go for it. Always nice to have a little headroom and you can keep the old one as an emergency spare or if you need to troubleshoot. Waiting for it to die might take a couple years, depending on how long you've used it, of course.
 
I meant micro, always get the two words swapped as you'd think it should be micro would be smaller than mini.

Regardless, is deliding safe? I imagine it would be easy to destroy a cpu by accident that way (the removal part).

It voids your warranty, but it's pretty much idiot-proof. I've done four of my own (two Ivy's, one Devil's Canyon, and one Skylake) and three more for other people without incident. The temperature difference is crazy.
 

XShagrath

Member
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17-6700k
ROG Hero VIII mobo
16GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR4-3000
Asus Strix 1080 Gaming
960 Sandisk Ultra II SSD
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
EVGA 1050w Gold Fully Modular PSU
3 WD mechanical HDDs (1x 4TB, 2x 1TB)
Fractal Designs Define R5 case

Finished my new build yesterday, and am pretty happy with my cable management. This is only the second system I have put together, so it took me a lot longer than I would have liked. I put in the CPU and RAM outside of the case, which was nice. Then I mounted the mobo, and had a bitch of a time putting on the 212 Evo. I ended up taking the mobo back out after not getting it seated properly three times.

Unfortunately, I'm still running into the same issue with my GPU (Strix 1080). The one fan will spin ridiculously fast for no reason, even at idle. I think I have it narrowed down to actually being a faulty card, but I've heard other people have had this problem as well. I can get the fan to stop if I put some pressure on the card (pushing it further into the PCIE slot), so I'm guessing that maybe some of the contacts are not getting a connection 100% of the time, or something to that effect? Any other suggestions before I try to do an RMA again?
 

GRaider81

Member
Ive been having a few crashes to BSOD recently giving the WHEA error. Its always playing NMS but also had it with Hitman yesterday.

My 4690k is OC to 4.4ghz and 1080 Strix to 2100mhz but ive never had probs until NMS.

ANy ideas on whats causing this? I lowered my CPU to 4.2ghz and haven't crashed since but i also haven't been playing NMS!
 

pax217

Member
Yo GAF, is this EVGA 1060 SC gonna provide me 4K @ 60hz for my home theater PC, or what? I can't find anything that says definitely either way...

I'm not gaming on the aforementioned PC; I use it to watch YouTube, Twitch, GiantBomb, etc. (I hate apps on stuff)
 

big fake

Member
PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/7kX68K
Price breakdown by merchant: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/7kX68K/by_merchant/

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.22 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Asus H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($83.91 @ shopRBC)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($50.83 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($54.21 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1060 6GB Mini Video Card ($372.84 @ Vuugo)
Case: Corsair 100R ATX Mid Tower Case ($50.85)
Power Supply: Thermaltake TR2 600W ATX Power Supply ($66.65 @ Newegg Canada)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN881ND PCI-Express x1 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter ($26.20 @ DirectCanada)
CPU" Intel i5 Core 6600k ($305.00 @ NeweggCanada via Ebay.ca)
Total: $1038.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. ALL TAXES are included.

So this is my new build I ordered parts for yesterday. Some of the retailers and prices are not correct here, true total is like $1070. How is this build exactly? I was seriously tight on budget, my previous PC could barely run previous gen games on high. I would think this could play almost all games at 1080p 60 with max settings?
 

telasoman

Member
Yo GAF, is this EVGA 1060 SC gonna provide me 4K @ 60hz for my home theater PC, or what? I can't find anything that says definitely either way...

I'm not gaming on the aforementioned PC; I use it to watch YouTube, Twitch, GiantBomb, etc. (I hate apps on stuff)

I watch 4K content with an old GTX 680, so the 1060 should destroy for pre-rendered video.
 
Guys, I've been out of the loop for a while so bear with me. I was looking to replace my aging 770 with a 1070 but this stuff with the founders edition is still going on, right? Is that the price point that I should be looking for (not the price that they were announced for back then)? Because if so I suppose I'll have to control myself and stick with a 1060. Would that be decent for 1080p (any good AMD alternatives btw)? Any specific brand/custom card that I should be looking for?

Cheers.
 

Alienfan

Member
Hey guys, another 'it's my first build' guy here :p

I'll be in my second year of computer science very soon, and things are starting to ramp up! In order to keep up with the course work I would like to be able to continue to work on my assignments at home - this requires a computer that can run software like Unity and Photoshop fairly well, and some mid-high end PC gaming on the side of course ;). I've done some research, and based on my very, very limited understanding on how computers work ,this is a computer that should be up for the aforementioned tasks:

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming K4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory
Storage: PNY CS1311 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive and a 1TB Western Digital
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/JsNCzM

Is there anything on here that's redundant/should change? Total cost is $1252.41 at the moment, wouldn't mind something cheaper.
 

chaosblade

Unconfirmed Member
Guys, I've been out of the loop for a while so bear with me. I was looking to replace my aging 770 with a 1070 but this stuff with the founders edition is still going on, right? Is that the price point that I should be looking for (not the price that they were announced for back then)? Because if so I suppose I'll have to control myself and stick with a 1060. Would that be decent for 1080p (any good AMD alternatives btw)? Any specific brand/custom card that I should be looking for?

Cheers.

1060 (6GB) should be good for 1080p for now, gets around 60 at ultra settings in demanding games. I'd probably go with EVGA just for their support unless I got a great deal on something else.

On the AMD side the 470 is a decent alternative as a 1080p card, a bit worse but also cheaper. At current prices don't bother with a 480, it's only marginally better than the 470 but costs up to 50% more. MSI's card seems like the best all-around card.

Hey guys, another 'it's my first build' guy here :p

I'll be in my second year of computer science very soon, and things are starting to ramp up! In order to keep up with the course work I would like to be able to continue to work on my assignments at home - this requires a computer that can run software like Unity and Photoshop fairly well, and some mid-high end PC gaming on the side of course ;). I've done some research, and based on my very, very limited understanding on how computers work ,this is a computer that should be up for the aforementioned tasks:

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming K4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory
Storage: PNY CS1311 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive and a 1TB Western Digital
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular


Is there anything on here that's redundant/should change? Total cost is $1252.41 at the moment, wouldn't mind something cheaper.

Nothing you can really cut without making sacrifices. i5, 8GB RAM, 1060, etc. Maybe the case, there are some decent cheaper ones but ~$100 definitely seems like the sweet spot in terms of quality and features.
 

SmokedMeat

Gamer™
To be honest you have ample watts for your setup.
It is nice to have a clean setup for air flow and it is visually nicer if you have a clear side panel. To save money on electricity, I don't think so.

Go for it. Always nice to have a little headroom and you can keep the old one as an emergency spare or if you need to troubleshoot. Waiting for it to die might take a couple years, depending on how long you've used it, of course.

Thanks for the replies!

Hit up Microcenter tonight, and wound up going with the EVGA Super Nova G2 550 watt Gold as it was $20 cheaper, and enough for my setup.

Man, what a difference. Far fewer cables to hide, it's quite an improvement.
 
Finally ordered a couple SSD's (OCZ Trion 240GB for W10, and a Samsung 850 EVO 500GB for games and stuff), after that I'll have completely refreshed my PC. Will eventually get a newer CPU and motherboard but my i5-2500k is still holding strong.
 

kuYuri

Member
Forgive my ignorance but is there a "clear" best GTX 1080? Thinking about upgrading from my 3 GB EVGA 780 but not really sure what the pros/cons are to the different 1080's. Also would need to get a 1440p monitor to reap the benefits since I just have a 144hz 1080p right now.

I would rank the best ones from each manufacturer as follows:

Asus: 1080 Strix OC
MSI: 1080 Gaming Z
Gigabyte: 1080 Xtreme Gaming
Zotac: 1080 AMP Extreme
EVGA: 1080 Classified
 

Alienfan

Member
Nothing you can really cut without making sacrifices. i5, 8GB RAM, 1060, etc. Maybe the case, there are some decent cheaper ones but ~$100 definitely seems like the sweet spot in terms of quality and features.


I decided on that case over any of the others purely for its aesthetics, the extra $30 seemed worth it :p

Thanks for your help though, I'm glad to see I didn't completely screw up on picking the parts.One last question, I sort of just went for the cheapest 1070 video card, it reviewed well, but it did make me question what the differences between the 1070 cards are. Do they function mostly the same? Do the differences boil down to "optimized for 4K" etc?
 

chaosblade

Unconfirmed Member
I decided on that case over any of the others purely for its aesthetics, the extra $30 seemed worth it :p

Thanks for your help though, I'm glad to see I didn't completely screw up on picking the parts.One last question, I sort of just went for the cheapest 1070 video card, it reviewed well, but it did make me question what the differences between the 1070 cards are. Do they function mostly the same? Do the differences boil down to "optimized for 4K" etc?

The differences between cards are mostly in manufacturer customization. Their custom board, their custom cooler, etc. Performance difference is negligible since the only difference there is going to be the factory overclocks. Ultimately it comes down to support, noise, and temps. The ideal card will be good in all those categories.

I'm not really familiar with Gigabyte GPUs or their support (had a Gigabyte motherboard, but never needed to use their support, which is good I guess). TPU has a review index and denotes which model is being reviewed, and you can find some video reviews on youtube. G1 doesn't look like the quietest card around but temps are nice. You could probably adjust the fan curve and let it run a bit warmer if you want to reduce noise, but it doesn't look especially loud.



For my own stuff, I got a 480 Devil and kind of regret it, 470 would have been a dramatically better value. Hopefully drivers will give it more of an edge later. Freesync tho!

I've never had much luck with GPU overclocking, first time killing a CPU(???) and the second I just couldn't get anything out of it. Was able to max out the Wattman memory slider at 2250mhz stable, but that increase choked the card's power draw and caused core clocks to drop a lot - from ~1300 to ~1000. Even increasing the power limit to the meager maximum of +5% made almost no difference. Sitting at stock for now since it offers the best combination of memory and core performance. Once Powercolor drops a bios update that raises the maximum power limit I might mess with it again.

Damn quite card though even at full load, not that noise is all that important since the room has a window AC unit mounted in the wall.
 
Recommended settings for a stable 60 on GTA V 1080p?

I keep getting dips in heavy populated areas and even turned the population density down.

My specs:
GeForce gtx 1070
I5 6500
16gb ddr4 2400hz ram

I'm pretty sure the GPU isn't the problem but I thought I would run this game as smooth as butter.
 
Recommended settings for a stable 60 on GTA V 1080p?

I keep getting dips in heavy populated areas and even turned the population density down.

My specs:
GeForce gtx 1070
I5 6500
16gb ddr4 2400hz ram

I'm pretty sure the GPU isn't the problem but I thought I would run this game as smooth as butter.

Turn grass quality down to medium or something, the highest setting completely destroyed my frame rate on my PC which is almost identical to yours.
 
Recommended settings for a stable 60 on GTA V 1080p?

I keep getting dips in heavy populated areas and even turned the population density down.

My specs:
GeForce gtx 1070
I5 6500
16gb ddr4 2400hz ram

I'm pretty sure the GPU isn't the problem but I thought I would run this game as smooth as butter.

This is a CPU issue.
 
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