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"I Need a New PC!" 2016 Plus Ultra! HBM2, VR, 144Hz, and 4K for all!
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Kudo
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CPU: Intel i5 Core 6600k ($305.00 @ NeweggCanada via Ebay.ca)
- Do you do rendering/other CPU-heavy work on your computer? IF yes, invest on i7-6700K. This is optional though and i5 is completely fine for gaming uses.
Motherboard: Asus H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 ($83.91 @ shopRBC)
- Invest on proper motherboard, Asus Z170-A is a popular choice.
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 ($50.83 @ Amazon Canada)
- Invest on 2x 8GB to get all benefits from Dual Channel memory, and maybe look for little faster like 2666MHz.
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 120GB 2.5 SSD($54.21 @ DirectCanada)
- I'd personally go for Samsung 850 EVO- series SSD but this is optional and anything should work.
Power Supply: Thermaltake TR2 600W ATX Power Supply ($66.65 @ Newegg Canada)
- Invest on more reliable PSU, Seasonic or whatever is the most recommended currently. Do not cheap out on PSU.
These are my tips for your build, feel free to ignore them as it will cost you more but I think all of the changes are for your good.
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/K6hbhq Here's link to something, remember that if you're building from scratch you will need keyboard and mouse too.
Go for the Hyper 212 EVO cpu cooler (or a cryorig H7)
You chose an unlocked CPU, but your motherboard doesn't support overclocking. Z170 motherboards are intended for overclocking.
I'm not sure how reliable that particular PSU is
Try going for a Samsung 850 evo instead of adata
opticalmace
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Could you fill in the survey in the OP? It will help in giving you feedback.
V1LÆM
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as already said, you need to change your motherboard to be compatible with your cpu and maybe change your ssd/psu. for skylake cpu's you'll need a z170 board. for ssd i recommend samsung (i have an 850 evo) and for PSU i would recommend an EVGA gs/g2 model. i have the Evga 750w g2. don't cheap out on your PSU!
also you only have one 8GB stick of RAM. you should get two 4GB's to run it in dual channel mode. 2133mhz speed is perfectly fine but the difference in price between 2133 and 3200mhz is very little (here in the uk it's a difference of ~£10). personally i'd recommend 2400-2666 for gaming and only go above that if you do a lot heavy non gaming tasks such as video editing/encoding or 3d work.
I totally agree with you on everything but as you said I don't have much room when it comes to budget. I was thinking of going for a Z170-A for the future when I have more money to spray around. And I was thinking of getting this http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=33_1238_442&item_id=053053
I do know I chose an unlocked, deal was better than a i5 6500 or 6600 at base price, had to get it. And again I intend to replace my motherboard in future as well as upgrade my RAM.
I don't know what your saying about the CPU not working with Motherboard or RAM, of which is just not true. The motherboard just doesn't have overclocking ability and thats really all thats "incompatible" when it comes to these parts.
Kudo
Member
If you're on tight budget now and that will change soon, I'd probably get proper parts and just skip GPU completely, then buy GPU when you have the money to do so.
That way you could use the computer with integrated GPU for browsing internet etc. and attaching GPU to complete build is super easy, so much easier than changing motherboard in future. You can't really play with integrated but depending on your situation, this way you would waste no money on worse parts that you would just replace in future anyway.
Very good way of looking at it, I agree with you but I was intending on this build for gaming in my dorm as I will be leaving all my consoles behind. It was really the only option and I do understand the foolish nature of the motherboard swap out but It's all I can really do at this moment. And my budget wont change soon, if anything It will change in 9 or so months but even that isn't a guarantee.
V1LÆM
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yeah that's what i meant. i assume if you are buying a K cpu you plan on overclocking. that motherboard won't overclock. yeah it will work but you can't overclock. i didn't realise that you were planning to upgrade your motherboard in the future. as for the RAM, i admit i made a mistake there. i thought your board was a haswell model but yep that board does support DDR4 which is why i edited my post as it shows in the quote you made of my post.
Fair enough. Didn't see the edit :/. Now that I have you attention how is that PSU I linked up there? I've heard that Corsair Builder Series Rails aren't the most mighty and reliable. I was hoping for 600w but I don't intend on SLI anytime (especially as 1060 doesn't support it) so a 500w should do fine.
V1LÆM
Gold Member
i think it would be fine but again i wouldn't cheap out on PSU. check out the PSU tier list and get something from Tier 1 or 2. and yeah i think 500W should be fine for an i5-6600K/1060.
http://i.imgur.com/361pNaI.png
I looked through all of those from tier 1 and 2 and I couldn't any in my budget range, I found this though, http://www.ncix.com/detail/evga-500w-80-plus-certified-5f-92643.htm what are your thoughts on this?
Get a BB Code PCpartpicker link for this build up and that'll help us help you.
Theonik
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Currently rocking an almost 100% Noctua setup. Only exception is the 200mm front intaka as no-one makes those anymore really.
Question about CPU fans.
Specs:
i7 6700k
Asus Z170-A
Noctua NH-D14
I have both fans for the cpu cooler plugged into the CPU_FAN header via the splitter that came with it. In bios, I have all my fans set to PWM at standard speed, including the CPU fans. Right now the system is idling, and the RPMs read:
Chassis1 600 RPM (140mm top)
CPU 1355 RPM (2x 140mm via y split from Noctua)
Chassis2 534 RPM (120mm rear)
Chassis3 580 RPM (140mm front)
Chassis4 609 RPM (140mm front)
Not that I necessarily mind the CPU fans running at such a high RPM as they are fairly quiet, but is there any reason why they would? If I run Intel Burn Test, the CPU fans only hit around 1400 RPM, which isn't much higher than idle. Temps for all 4 cores right now are all below 30.
Specs:
i7 6700k
Asus Z170-A
Noctua NH-D14
I have both fans for the cpu cooler plugged into the CPU_FAN header via the splitter that came with it. In bios, I have all my fans set to PWM at standard speed, including the CPU fans. Right now the system is idling, and the RPMs read:
Chassis1 600 RPM (140mm top)
CPU 1355 RPM (2x 140mm via y split from Noctua)
Chassis2 534 RPM (120mm rear)
Chassis3 580 RPM (140mm front)
Chassis4 609 RPM (140mm front)
Not that I necessarily mind the CPU fans running at such a high RPM as they are fairly quiet, but is there any reason why they would? If I run Intel Burn Test, the CPU fans only hit around 1400 RPM, which isn't much higher than idle. Temps for all 4 cores right now are all below 30.
Not sure where else to post this outside of the 1070 review thread, so I'll just put it here.
Really hoping someone might be able to help me. My computer was running just fine with my 970, but ever since I installed my EVGA Superclocked 1070 I'm noticing screen tearing across basically everything. Stopped playing Mirror's Edge because of it, luckily don't see any in Overwatch, just downloaded the original Titanfall and it's there too. VSync is doing jack shit. I don't have a special monitor or anything. Can someone help please?
Really hoping someone might be able to help me. My computer was running just fine with my 970, but ever since I installed my EVGA Superclocked 1070 I'm noticing screen tearing across basically everything. Stopped playing Mirror's Edge because of it, luckily don't see any in Overwatch, just downloaded the original Titanfall and it's there too. VSync is doing jack shit. I don't have a special monitor or anything. Can someone help please?
Nop, if I had that screen I would return it and get new.
What is your brightness at? Try something near 30 and check how it looks then if its somewhere 80-100 now.
Yes it will look dark first but when you get used to it after a bit its much better and if that "bleed" is because of too much brightness it will be gone too.
The picture was with the brightness at 35. :/
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
How much potential damage can a power strip tripping do to a PC when it forces a shutdown during use?
Sniffynose
Member
Only really data corruption on your hard drive if it was being written to when it happens.
Phanatic8390
Member
I can't decide between a 1440p or 1080p Asus G-Sync monitor. I've got a GTX1080 so it feels like 1080p is wasted power but at twice the price for 1440p it just doesn't seem worth it.
I notice sometimes Y fan splitter can mess up pwn. Try only connecting 1 fan withou the splitter and see if the rpm changes. If yes, you could try a different splitter. Otherwise, since they aren't loud, continue with your current setup.
Since games won't use the 3-4x faster read / write speeds, you won't notice any differences.
Do they have all same specs but other is 1080p and other 1440p?
It's not wasted power when you want to run games at high framerate
me0wish
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Light bleed sucks, and I don't like it, but the sooner I realize I won't even notice it, the sooner I'd start enjoying my screen.
I have only the PSU to worry about in this build now. I would think those other posters already cleared up a lot of the questions I had. I went out and bought a Z170 motherboard for further upgrade-ability.
Phanatic8390
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Edit: Nevermind. I thought they were the same but the 1080p is a TN panel. I think I should be looking at an IPS from what I've read.
1080p screen is TN and 1440p IPS?
What specific screens are those?
How is high refresh rate wasted with 1440p + gtx1080? gtx1080 can crunch 1440p easily over 100fps.
Phanatic8390
Member
Yeah it's TN vs IPS. I thought they were both IPS.
It's the ASUS PG248Q vs PG279Q. I can grab the Dell S2716DGR for a TN 1440p at the same price as the PG248Q
pizzapizza64
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Your Current Specs: none
Budget: $800-1000, United States
Main Use: Rate 1-5. 5 being Highest: Light Gaming 5, Gaming 3, Emulation (PS2/Wii/Wii U) 0, Video Editing 5, Streaming games in HD 0, 3D/Model work (and what program) 0, General Usage (Word, Web, 1080p playback) 5.
Monitor Resolution: 1080p
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run: Adobe Premiere, Final Draft, Photoshop, AfterEffects
Looking to reuse any parts?: no
When will you build?: by September 1
Will you be overclocking?: i don't think so.
Thank you!
Budget: $800-1000, United States
Main Use: Rate 1-5. 5 being Highest: Light Gaming 5, Gaming 3, Emulation (PS2/Wii/Wii U) 0, Video Editing 5, Streaming games in HD 0, 3D/Model work (and what program) 0, General Usage (Word, Web, 1080p playback) 5.
Monitor Resolution: 1080p
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run: Adobe Premiere, Final Draft, Photoshop, AfterEffects
Looking to reuse any parts?: no
When will you build?: by September 1
Will you be overclocking?: i don't think so.
Thank you!
Just got the Dell today from the Best Buy sale. The TN panel isn't as big of a deal as I was afraid. As far as I can tell, this was the best deal to get in on 1440p/G-sync. I'd definitely recommend seriously considering it.
Only note is that you need to adjust the gamma in Windows or Nvidia control panel, as it's way too high out of the box (and you can't adjust via the monitor controls). Once that's taken care of, it looks great.
Phanatic8390
Member
Do you find the menus lacking to be an issue? I've read the menus are pretty bare even to some regular monitors let alone the Asus ROG monitors.
I would pick IPS screen since there is better viewing angles and better colors.
Screens last very long so if you get better now then you dont need to replace it for really long time.
If you get worse then you will feel need to replace it much sooner.
But both of those are good so I guess you cant go wrong with either.
Not for my purposes. It would be preferable to manage all picture settings, including gamma, via the menu. However, the results worked out fine managing it via software. The top review on Amazon for this has a great list of settings (both Nvidia Control Panel and monitor settings) based on that person's calibration. I did dial back the digital vibrance and turn up the brightness compared to his, but I'm quite happy with it now. I'm not sure what else some of the higher end monitors offer in their menus, but I am pretty much leaving it set now that I have it calibrated to my liking.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
"Great" build in the OP would be a good starting point.
Bump the CPU up to a 6700 for hyperthreading and a stock cooler since you aren't overclocking. And you can drop the motherboard to a B150 board. Cheaper motherboard and no aftermarket cooler should about break even with the increase from the more expensive CPU.
SimpleGamer
Member
I'm having a weird problem with my Nvidia control panel. I just installed my Samsung SSD and I had to reinstall the drivers but when I try to resize now the resize is over scaling my TV? This didn't happen when I was just using my HDD.
Strafebogey
Member
Hmmmm, that bottom right corner looks kinda bad. My own Asus monitor has IPS light blooms on edges and corners, but thankfully no color shifts like that bottom right corner of yours.
Is 212 EVO still the top choice for below-topend? Maybe we can re-evaluate its default choice status before it becomes another 2500K/Z-5500.
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/cpu_air_cooler_mega_test/1
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/cpu_air_cooler_mega_test/1
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
The ARCTIC Freezer i32 seems to be the best for how cheap it is
lostsupper
Banned
The 212 has been a poor choice for a long time now, but people here keep suggesting it.
Stop.
EDIT: No loudness metric in that cooler test? Dumb.
Stop.
EDIT: No loudness metric in that cooler test? Dumb.
Finaika
Member
How is it poor?
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Seems more expensive in NA. More than a 212, definitely more than a 212 during its frequent discounts.
I don't think it gets recommended because it's an amazing cooler, but because it's not uncommon for it to cost under $20 after rebate. For a better performing cooler you are probably looking at spending at least $30. At regular price? Go for an alternative. But it's hard to justify spending 2x the money for a cooler that might be slightly quieter or get 2C lower temps, especially since the people getting recommendations from this thread are not going to be hardcore enthusiast overclockers chasing every fraction of a degree they can get.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
They are both $30 on amazon. At that price, I'm not waiting around for a rebate if I'm building a computer.
I have no idea if the Arctic is ever on sale like the Hyper 212 like you mentioned.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
I just checked and it looks like it doesn't go on sale as much as it used to. It's only been under $20 after rebate a few times in the last 10 months or so, where a few years ago it seemed like every other week there was a promo + rebate that knocked it down to $15.
On the other hand that Arctic cooler has almost no price history, it was nearly $50 on newegg a long time ago and only recently seemed to have appeared again.
Sniffynose
Member
You are right, I tried one on my latest i7 6700k build and it was a pile of crap, the bottom where it touches the cpu lid was so rough it was disgusting and the fan vibrated like mad. The back x plate was also a janky hunk of junk. I was hitting 90 degrees in prime95 too which was horrible, I even re seated the cpu and made damn sure the thermal paste was good.
It got returned and I got a Noctua NH-D15, it was so much better build quality and actually had a nice mirror surface to mesh with the cpu lid. The x plate was very well done and fit great, it also dropped my temp 15c so now I max out at 75c in the new prime95 instead of 90!!
The 212 evo might have been good years ago but the build quality is horrible now and it was just a janky pile of crap for me.
I shouldn't have cheaped out on such a vital component but I'm glad I tested and returned it and the Noctua is bloody amazing.
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