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"I Need a New PC!" 2016 Plus Ultra! HBM2, VR, 144Hz, and 4K for all!
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Pagusas
Elden Member
Not if you are only working with $550. Stick with an i5 and put as much money into the Gpu as you can.
Thanks !
So I have 2 4GB sticks of ram... I assume if I want 16 I have to more or less take these out and get two sticks of 8 or 1 stick of 16, right?
EDIT: Actually, Could I just buy another set of 2X4 to fill the remaining slots? Shouldn't be much of a difference performance wise, right?
EDIT: Actually, Could I just buy another set of 2X4 to fill the remaining slots? Shouldn't be much of a difference performance wise, right?
Zombegoast
Member
I'm checking it now and one of the corners of the CPU is bent and few of the motherboard pins are bent. I tried turning it on again and noticed the fan light turns on and off.
:/
That.. would certainly cause issues with booting. At least you found your problem. Perhaps try using a credit card to straighten the pins.
any would be fine although i am not planning to use the mic much if at all .
There's nothing wrong with just adding two more 4gb sticks. I use 8gb and don't have any issues running out of memory, why are you finding that you need 16gb?
man i can't wait to finish my build tonight... the thought of having missed something like this is killing me
I would say check and go try somewhere what fits best for you from Sennheiser, AKG, etc some other good stuff.
My vote goes to Sennheiser, their headphones are comfiest I have ever used, can keep those on your head all day and not feel bad.
If the space is closed, air goes in = air goes out. So the air will be moving, and since the space is big enough, I don't think doldrums will be a problem, remember, temperature difference alone can create air flow as well. What's your estimation of heat? I don't think you need more fans than in a normal case, if anything, it should need fewer.
I_D
Member
In a truly closed space, you're correct that "air in = air out."
The issue I'm worried about is that it's "air in + heat being created from components ≠ air out."
You've put me at ease, though. It's much larger than a standard case, so it should be fine. I think I'm just over-thinking it since I want it to be perfect.
Thanks for the help!
Lots of people are saying it improves Battlefield 1 performance.
Is this Newegg Shellshocker deal for a $600 gtx1080 good?
http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspx?cm_sp=Homepage_SS-_-P1_14-125-908-_-10192016&Index=1
Are the more expensive better cooled/factory overclocked ones significantly better?
http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspx?cm_sp=Homepage_SS-_-P1_14-125-908-_-10192016&Index=1
Are the more expensive better cooled/factory overclocked ones significantly better?
Pagusas
Elden Member
Is this Newegg Shellshocker deal for a $600 gtx1080 good?
http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspx?cm_sp=Homepage_SS-_-P1_14-125-908-_-10192016&Index=1
Are the more expensive better cooled/factory overclocked ones significantly better?
It's so crazy that the MSRP is consider a shell shocker
Is this Newegg Shellshocker deal for a $600 gtx1080 good?
http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspx?cm_sp=Homepage_SS-_-P1_14-125-908-_-10192016&Index=1
Are the more expensive better cooled/factory overclocked ones significantly better?
It's 20 bucks off Gigabytes new OC blower card. Would be ideal for a HTPC case. I wouldn't say significantly better. Maybe better for a certain setup.
My case is pretty open so would I be better with a different one?
Personal preference really. I like blower cards in HTPC or cases with not much airflow so it can blow out the back. This card would be fine for whatever you want I would think.
Good looking card.
So I was thinking of building the "good - very capable" build for my S/O. She won't be gaming on it or anything just running some daycare quickbooks software but I would like for it to last a long time. I'll be giving her my 1080p monitor. She'll need a lot of space for photos and documents. She's currently on a MacBook Pro but wants an actual PC for her desk with Windows.
Alright guys, I need a recommendation, I'm looking to build a powerful (and my first) gaming PC. I already talked to Hazaro a bit about it, and he would recommend the $1000 build with a 6700K and a 1070 or RX480. I'd love to hear other suggestions as well, prince doesn't really matter too much with me, but diminishing returns and what not.
Thank you guys
Thank you guys
Yep, make sure you clean the CPU well with rubbing alcohol. And the d15 does come with paste, so you're good to go.
ndawgdrake
Member
Remove the paste. Coffee filter and isopropyl alcohol will do the trick.
Alright guys, I need a recommendation, I'm looking to build a powerful (and my first) gaming PC. I already talked to Hazaro a bit about it, and he would recommend the $1000 build with a 6700K and a 1070 or RX480. I'd love to hear other suggestions as well, prince doesn't really matter too much with me, but diminishing returns and what not.
Thank you guys
What is your preferred price range?
Also 1070-RX480 is a pretty big gap in cost and computing power.
uhhh. You absolutely should remove old paste.
Rubbing alcohol (IPA 97%) and coffee filters work the best.
Up towards $1500, even a bit more if I have to. Though Haz said spending over $1200 has diminishing returns and the money is better invested in saving towards the next gen of GPUS. Thoughts?
I don't know who "Haz" is but diminishing returns are a thing. However where money can be better invested is up to the individual and his/her budget. For $1500 you really don't need any compromises.
I mean there are ridiculous over the top things like getting a Quadro for $5k which actually has worse performance than a Titan but that's something different than getting a GPU which has a clear upgrade over a lesser model (ex rx480 to gtx 1080)
I'll see if I can come up with a list.
How about this? (includes Windows in the price)
A breakdown of the choices/commentary
Processor: i7-6700K is the best processor on the market for gaming. Some higher end processors with more cores actually get worse frame rates in some games despite being $1000+ more.
CPU Cooler: Water Cooler I use this in my personal rig and it's super quiet and has great temps I've never run into any issues with it and it should be good to go for overclocking.
Motherboard: Fairly standard Z170 nothing special but it's a Z170 and fairly cheap compared to a lot of others with most of the features
Memory: RAM doesn't make a lot of difference in speed but 16GB is kind of minimum anymore (although you can easily get by with 8 in most cases) I basically went with the cheapest 2 stick 16GB DDR4 available (cheap in price not performance)
Storage: If you don't like the dual hard drive approach (I personally prefer it) you could replace it with a single SSD with a lower storage capacity for the same price.
Video Card: The 1080 was also chosen as a matter of being the cheapest but you could get slightly better performance if you spend more (stuff like that is where diminishing returns really kick in as it's only slight overclocks of the same card)
Case: Great Case for the price I use it in my personal rig and it's amazing to work in (once you've used an easy to work in case you never want to go back). Several features you find only on much more expensive cases as well like thumb screws that stay attached to the case.
ColdDeckEd
Member
I used a syringe to fix a slightly bent pin two months ago. Just take it slow and don't use that much force (think brush strokes), or else the pin will snap off.
Oh, Sorry, I mean Hazaro, the guy who made the thread. Ahh, I see; thank you!
Does dual hard drive vs single SSD really matter that much? I'm pretty dumb when it comes to this kind of stuff, sorry!
Thank you for the input, I really appreciate it
Oh, Sorry, I mean Hazaro, the guy who made the thread. Ahh, I see; thank you!
Does dual hard drive vs single SSD really matter that much? I'm pretty dumb when it comes to this kind of stuff, sorry!
Thank you for the input, I really appreciate it
Well what it is is you buy a cheap Hard Drive with lots of storage for games etc (in this case 1tb HDD) and then get a smaller SSD for Windows. That way you get fast boot times and tons of storage without spending money on a massive SSD
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Faster RAM for the same price. Faster memory can improve minimum framerates by a few percent in some cases. Occasionally maximum framerates, but less benefit and less often.
Could save $30 on the cooler to put somewhere that will be more impactful. A Cryorig H7 may (or may not) cool slightly worse, but if you aren't into extreme overclocking temps aren't going to be your limiting factor anyway. Probably also quieter.
That $30 could easily double the HDD space, go toward a higher quality PSU, go toward a motherboard with better rear I/O, etc.
fluffydelusions
Member
Planning on picking up a PS4 pro next month to complement my PC but having an issue. I have an ASUS VG248QE monitor which my PC (DVI) is hooked to but would also like to have the PS4 hooked up to it (HDMI). Thing is currently I have external speakers hooked to the PC rather than using the monitors speakers because they well aren't that great lol. I'd also like the PS4 to utilize the speakers. Currently I just have amp hooked directly to my PC which works fine. I tried running an aux cable from the monitor to PC and then hooking the speakers to the headphone jack on the monitor but only the right speaker works and it's not very loud. Anyone know what's up?
Burgess_101
Member
So I have finished my HTPC build with a 5820k and R9 Nano.
I worry though as the cramped nature of my case in tandem with the Scythe Big Shuriken 2 seem to only just be keeping my CPU at 90c when playing games (only really tried Battlefield 1). It could be I didn't do that good a job on the thermal paste but I think it should be okay, I really don't want to have to be doing that again.
Do you guys think I'll be alright or am I going to have to rethink things?
I worry though as the cramped nature of my case in tandem with the Scythe Big Shuriken 2 seem to only just be keeping my CPU at 90c when playing games (only really tried Battlefield 1). It could be I didn't do that good a job on the thermal paste but I think it should be okay, I really don't want to have to be doing that again.
Do you guys think I'll be alright or am I going to have to rethink things?
That temp seems really high to me. Definitely double check your cooler is seated correctly and all that.
Burgess_101
Member
It's really late now so tomorrow when I am back from work I'll test it more thoroughly.
If it's going to be that hot then I might have to ditch the air cooler and look to a closed water cooler.
Atraveller
Banned
Take a picture of your PC's interior and post it here.
wooooo
computer built wasn't too bad - had some fighting with the cooler and power supply but it all slotted in real nice.
updated W10 all the way - what's next?
i have an Asus Pro Gaming z170 mini itx - should i update my bios? from here:
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/Z170I-PRO-GAMING/HelpDesk_Download/
computer built wasn't too bad - had some fighting with the cooler and power supply but it all slotted in real nice.
updated W10 all the way - what's next?
i have an Asus Pro Gaming z170 mini itx - should i update my bios? from here:
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/Z170I-PRO-GAMING/HelpDesk_Download/
My Current build is
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4670K CPU @ 3.40GHz
8GB Ram
Radeon r7 200
If I had £150 to spend what would be more beneficial to upgrade for games? Im currently having an issue where Fifa is running super slow and I think its the cpu, but I cant be sure. I like the idea of a new cpu because my pc is running slow as is.
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4670K CPU @ 3.40GHz
8GB Ram
Radeon r7 200
If I had £150 to spend what would be more beneficial to upgrade for games? Im currently having an issue where Fifa is running super slow and I think its the cpu, but I cant be sure. I like the idea of a new cpu because my pc is running slow as is.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
You will have to be more specific on the GPU, 200 is a series and not a card.
But it sounds like a software problem, your CPU is fine apart from the fact you haven't overclocked it.
Bloodember
Member
Only update your bios if you are having issues.
On system requirements lab it says AMD Radeon R7 200 Series, same with my device manager and windows specs, where would I go to find exact model?
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
GPUz would work, and it's portable so you don't have to install it.
But in all likelihood you just need to clean up the system. See what all runs in the background, make sure you don't have any malware or something hogging resources. There's no reason for a 4670K to run Windows slowly.
The CPU and Memory rarely is troubled while playing, sometimes the "Disk" section in task manager jumps to 99%.
There is a bunch of shit running but none of it is a program, I have ccleaner and turned everything off when I start up but still a bunch of stuff runs, perhaps I should just do a clean reboot.
The last windows 10 update hasnt helped anything either, its definitely made things worse.
Bloodember
Member
Is the OS on a SSD or a mechanical drive (HDD)?
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
If it is a HDD the best upgrade path is to just get a SSD and a fresh Windows installation. Would probably be a day and night difference.
Burgess_101
Member
I know where the issues of air flow would be coming from.
This is a poor picture I took last night so excuse my legs.
I mean it's pretty obvious what you could say needs to be improved but it can't because of the form factor of the case.
Running a Prime95 test gets me to around 85c on average. I presume with the inclusion of the GPU pumping heat into the case it could easily get hotter.
One of the cores was hotter by between 2-4 Celsius consistently but I think that is within acceptable levels.
I'll have to fiddle around when I get back from work.
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