Nice, thanks! Yeah typically NYC apartment so SFF is great - really anything small and sleek that doesnt clutter up a desk area. Not going to go nuts on overclocking but want something future proof so I can play max settings (on 1080p) for the next year or so.
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Nice, thanks! Yeah typically NYC apartment so SFF is great - really anything small and sleek that doesnt clutter up a desk area. Not going to go nuts on overclocking but want something future proof so I can play max settings (on 1080p) for the next year or so.
Pray you have a microcenter near you, lol
i5 6500 CPU
GA-H110N LGA Scoket 1151 Mini itx Mobo
Crucial Ballistix 8gb dd3
Gtx 1070 FE
Samsung 750gb HD
240gb SSD
NZXT Manta Windowed Mini Itx Case
Corsair GS700 - 700W PSU
$1056 with tax
Is there a way to move my Windows installation from my current SSD to a new one? I was gonna keep it, but have decided I want what little I can get out of it for my 1070 fund. I don't care about losing my data, everything is backed up on externals and cloud anyway and reinstalling programs doesn't take long with my connection. If I opt to do a clean install through the reset PC option, will it let me choose which drive to use so I can safely remove the original after?
Uni on Everything!
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Hey guys, thinking of building a new PC but not sure if I should go all out or just upgrade some parts. I want to be able to run 3440x1440 with G-Sync smoothly... will a 1070 be enough or do I need to spring for a 1080? The main things I want to upgrade are monitor, case, and GPU. Unsure if I should upgrade everything else while I'm at it.
Currently I'm playing games like SF4/5, Blizzard games, Rainbow Six Siege... I don't think I do that much AAA gaming on PC.
My relevant current specs are below, thanks.
Asus Sabertooth Z77 motherboard
i5 3570K @ 4.3GHz
16GB DDR3 RAM
AMD R290
Dell U2711 monitor
Seasonic 760W Platinum PSU
Samsung 840 Evo 256GB SSD
Currently I'm playing games like SF4/5, Blizzard games, Rainbow Six Siege... I don't think I do that much AAA gaming on PC.
My relevant current specs are below, thanks.
Asus Sabertooth Z77 motherboard
i5 3570K @ 4.3GHz
16GB DDR3 RAM
AMD R290
Dell U2711 monitor
Seasonic 760W Platinum PSU
Samsung 840 Evo 256GB SSD
I would just clone the drive using Macrium Reflect.
So I am torn between coolers for my 6600K (building Friday !!!!!!). The EVO 212 seems to be the popular choice but I've heard that it isn't that great. I've looked at others like Noctua but I cannot decide. I'm spending some good money on my build so I don't want to lose it because I went cheap on a CPU cooler I might overclock down the road. I would prefer to spend no more than $70 and my case can fit a 165MM CPU cooler
EVO 212- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/?tag=neogaf0e-20 $29
Noctua NH-U9S- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TBHYYFK/?tag=neogaf0e-20 $60
Or is there another selection that you can suggest?
EVO 212- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/?tag=neogaf0e-20 $29
Noctua NH-U9S- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TBHYYFK/?tag=neogaf0e-20 $60
Or is there another selection that you can suggest?
A 980 Ti and a Titan X were both great 1440p cards, so a 1070 which is slightly better than both will be a good choice for 21:9 ultra-wide resolutions.
https://youtu.be/LA6g5bK_0fE
Dick Justice
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Sending my PC into DinoPC to get the PSU replaced, which seems to be the source of my coil whine (upgrading from a GTX 770 to 970 didn't change anything in that regard). My current PSU is a Corsair 650w TX V2. Would a 650w CS Modular be a good replacement? Or would I be better off going for something like the 750w RMX? Single-GPU system (970 G1), i7 4770K CPU and 16GB RAM.
Uni on Everything!
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Awesome... is it worth upgrading my CPU/Mobo/RAM as well or should I just stick with what I have now?
I've had a 212 on my Phenom II 955BE for almost 7 years at max overclock this chip can handle (3.2->4.0 GHz), despite cooler. I plan on using it again next week on an i7-6700k.
However, if you look up reviews, the Noctua is the better cooler. All depends on what you're comfortable on spending.
I think you're fine with what you have now. I feel it's not worth upgrading those yet.
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How are Amazon UK for hardware returns? I've been having awful problems with Overwatch and I think it's either the game or my PSU (I have thoroughly tested every other piece of hardware with no issues). If I were to buy one and it not be the problem could I return it? I can't afford to burn £85.
Lovely, thanks
Whatever you buy mail order you have th did stance selling regulations on your side, which gives you 7 days to change your mind and return an item. On top of that Amazon are usually excellent with returns, assuming you keep everything packed back up as new
Uni on Everything!
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OK thanks!
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Deleted member 325805
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OK thanks, might have to go that route then as this is driving me nuts.
I'm currently still rocking a 2500k (@4.5GHz) with a GTX 970. I use my computer for games, casual browsing etc., and some hobby photography using Adobe Lightroom. I have a 1440p@60Hz monitor and also have a Vive.
I have noticed the 970 isn't doing very well at my display resolution resolution with modern games, and with VR I'm really at the bare minimum. With that in mind, I'm contemplating whether I want to simply upgrade my videocard again or if I should upgrade the computer entirely. I suppose the question is whether the 2500k is holding me back or if it's still primarily the GPU.
I played some Project Cars on the Vive yesterday, and despite having nearly all settings on low it was rarely hitting 90fps. I'm leaning towards getting a GTX 1080 once the non-founders editions are widely available, but am wondering if my CPU will be major bottleneck.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
I have noticed the 970 isn't doing very well at my display resolution resolution with modern games, and with VR I'm really at the bare minimum. With that in mind, I'm contemplating whether I want to simply upgrade my videocard again or if I should upgrade the computer entirely. I suppose the question is whether the 2500k is holding me back or if it's still primarily the GPU.
I played some Project Cars on the Vive yesterday, and despite having nearly all settings on low it was rarely hitting 90fps. I'm leaning towards getting a GTX 1080 once the non-founders editions are widely available, but am wondering if my CPU will be major bottleneck.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Cryorig makes a good cooler as well. AFAIR, between the EVO and Noctua in performance, and cheaper than the EVO to boot.
AndyMoogle
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A 2500k can definitely bottleneck a 970 in some games. Use MSI Afterburner to see how much usage you get from your CPU cores and GPU.
Probably, but you can try just running them fast at first to see how you get on.
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CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($233.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial BX200 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($63.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design Node 304 Mini ITX Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $720.21
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opticalmace
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You'll be fine.
TequilaHero
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Hi there. Problems with a build inspired by the builds in the OP.
Suspecting a mobo failure due to incompatibility with the GPU, but praying it's just a dumb mistake.
On paper, this build should have worked...but it doesn't seem to be.
AsRock Fatal1ty X99M motherboard
Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 32OO MHz - 32GB
Msi R9 390 Gaming 8G GPU
Intel Core i7-5820K 6-Core CPU
Corsair H100i v2 liquid CPU cooler
EVGA Super Nova 750W NEX750B power supply
I was building my first PC yesterday and all was going OK. I powered it on and all lights and fans worked, but I could not get video output. The debugger on the board was flashing codes for the gpu and chipset. The manual suggested to use a different slot or reseat the GPU. Re-seating didn't work so I just left it and went to bed. This morning I switched the gpu into PCIe slot 2 and powered on...nothing. No power at all! So, ofc I suspect the PSU and go about testing that with my multimeter. Turns out it's fine. But no response from the mobo still and have removed the gpu altogether.
Is it possible the GPU fried the mobo somehow? Or did the boogie man come and lay some bad mojo down on it while I was sleeping?
Suspecting a mobo failure due to incompatibility with the GPU, but praying it's just a dumb mistake.
On paper, this build should have worked...but it doesn't seem to be.
AsRock Fatal1ty X99M motherboard
Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 32OO MHz - 32GB
Msi R9 390 Gaming 8G GPU
Intel Core i7-5820K 6-Core CPU
Corsair H100i v2 liquid CPU cooler
EVGA Super Nova 750W NEX750B power supply
I was building my first PC yesterday and all was going OK. I powered it on and all lights and fans worked, but I could not get video output. The debugger on the board was flashing codes for the gpu and chipset. The manual suggested to use a different slot or reseat the GPU. Re-seating didn't work so I just left it and went to bed. This morning I switched the gpu into PCIe slot 2 and powered on...nothing. No power at all! So, ofc I suspect the PSU and go about testing that with my multimeter. Turns out it's fine. But no response from the mobo still and have removed the gpu altogether.
Is it possible the GPU fried the mobo somehow? Or did the boogie man come and lay some bad mojo down on it while I was sleeping?
Check the cables, maybe you unsocketed one of the cables when reseating the gpu? Otherwise its not looking good I am afraid
opticalmace
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Unplug everything not strictly necessary, double check all cables. Is the motherboard properly mounted on the standoffs, no loose screws or otherwise? Try ram in different slots etc. Can even try it outside of the case if you need to.
My guess is loose cables or something of the sort.
TequilaHero
Neo Member
Thanks for the quick reply, guys...really losing it over here >.<
Basically all I have been doing for hours. Weird thing is, it was fine (except no video output) last night but now it's just dead.
I'm thinking that even if RAM was not properly seated or was bad or the GPU is not in, the mobo would still light up. And its not.
Yep, took out the gpu to check all cables, reseated, moved it, unplugged and re-plugged all power cables, switched the RAM, made sure it seated properly, nothin' Y_Y
Basically all I have been doing for hours. Weird thing is, it was fine (except no video output) last night but now it's just dead.
I'm thinking that even if RAM was not properly seated or was bad or the GPU is not in, the mobo would still light up. And its not.
Does the m/b turn on the p/s (without anything else)?
TequilaHero
Neo Member
nope. the power button on the board is unresponsive.
Here's a pic of what I'm looking at so far
Hm. So I got a new shiny i7 6700K from Intel Retail Edge. Thinking of finally upgrading my i5-2500K. That said, I don't know if I should wait it out and upgrade my GPU too. My monitor is the Dell U2515H, so 1440p. Thinking of just upgrading everything but keeping my GPU. Thoughts? I'm happy with the current performance of my 970, not sure if a 1070/1080 is a justifiable upgrade when I'm only gaming on 1440p. Any opinions?
So I'm getting an error: "target disk has an incompatible sector size." The new SSD (drive D) has nothing on it and I have formatted it multiple times. Anybody know? I reaaally don't want to have to buy Windows again. My school (CC) doesn't offer it and the local uni I got my last copy from (my mom works there) lost their MS license.
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I mean, if you have the new CPU you might as well upgrade your platform, right? DDR4 and all that. As for the justifiability of upgrading from the 970, I'm facing the same dilemma. However, unlike you, I am increasing dissatisfied with my performance, and I'm only at 1200p (Dell 16:10). I am a proud graphics whore and I want high/ultra, not medium/high. At 1440p, I think jumping to the 1070 makes sense. I hope to pick up a 1440p monitor after getting my 1070. Obviously it isn't necessary, but at that res, I think you'll see a good jump in performance. Plus, dat 8GB VRAM will be increasingly useful I think.
Can you try formatting the new drive via Windows and select a 4096 sector size?
Sorry, can you guide me a bit? I don't see a way to select a sector size doing the quick format. I'm probably in the wrong spot or just stupid from exhaustion and frustration.
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Indeed, it is. I would love to switch to the red team this time around and I desperately want FreeSync or G-SYNC. Really hoping the 490 (or the new Fury if they do that before Vega) kicks major ass.
You were doing exactly what I was thinking. The sector size is probably firmware based then. Maybe try looking at the Reflect forums for a possible solution? I actually haven't ran into this problem cloning a few drives.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Is there a current consensus about what the best case for watercooling is that's under $500? I'm thinking of using my old closed loop cooler and putting it on a new GPU when I get one. I currently have a Silverstone FT02, and while it's an awesome case for air cooling, if I'm going to be using the closed loop watercoolers anyway, it's kinda moot.
That Caselab SM8 is pretty expensive. Is there a reason for that?
That Caselab SM8 is pretty expensive. Is there a reason for that?
Their cases are made in very limited runs, and most of them are custom built made to order (there are lots of options on their site). They're also the best most flexible cases there are. And they are modular, so if you fuck something up when you're modding one of their cases, you can just order a replacement part from them.
Basically, you buy it, and then that can be your forever case.
connect the front panel cable and use the case power button..
if that doesn't work, move the m/b out of the case, try again...
if that doesn't work, pack it up and rma it ):
How does a Fury card work? Sorry I havent used AMD since 2010.
Donald Bubbins
Member
I need a matx board for my bitfenix prodigy case.
Why would I choose this the
ASUS Z170M-PLUS ($251.85 NZD)
http://www.dove.co.nz/products/oem-and-component/motherboards/12424
Over the
ASUS H170M-Plus ($224.25 NZD)
http://www.dove.co.nz/products/oem-and-component/motherboards/12778
Also do people normally get Gigabyte or Asus?
Why would I choose this the
ASUS Z170M-PLUS ($251.85 NZD)
http://www.dove.co.nz/products/oem-and-component/motherboards/12424
Over the
ASUS H170M-Plus ($224.25 NZD)
http://www.dove.co.nz/products/oem-and-component/motherboards/12778
Also do people normally get Gigabyte or Asus?
velociraptor
Junior Member
Guys I need help please :[
Here is the situation.
PC doesn't power on when the 8 pin CPU cable is in the mobo. I may press the power button 100s of times but nada, doesn't work.
When I disconnect the 8 pin CPU cable from the MOBO, PC powers on, and all fans are switched on.
What could be the problem?
I'm hoping the PSU is borked as that is more easily replaced but I honestly am scared the CPU or mobo is gone, and I really don't have the money to buy a new CPU and or mobo.
Here is the situation.
PC doesn't power on when the 8 pin CPU cable is in the mobo. I may press the power button 100s of times but nada, doesn't work.
When I disconnect the 8 pin CPU cable from the MOBO, PC powers on, and all fans are switched on.
What could be the problem?
I'm hoping the PSU is borked as that is more easily replaced but I honestly am scared the CPU or mobo is gone, and I really don't have the money to buy a new CPU and or mobo.
Z overclock H does not. So if you are going K get a Z
Buiding a new PC soon and will probably pick up a 1070. I intend to switch to a 27" 1440p monitor and use my current 24" 1200p monitor as a secondary. My current build is 6 yrs old and I have not been following the hardware scene much so I have no idea just how much benefit I will see from Gsync.
I looked at the Asus 27" PG279Q 165Hz monitor and it costs a bomb. So if I am understanding this right, should I buy this monitor, I must also make sure I am able to run games at 165 fps at 1440p to see the full benefits of Gsync? That seems kind of demanding. So if I don't intend to run my games at 165 fps, there is no point in paying for this monitor?
I looked at the Asus 27" PG279Q 165Hz monitor and it costs a bomb. So if I am understanding this right, should I buy this monitor, I must also make sure I am able to run games at 165 fps at 1440p to see the full benefits of Gsync? That seems kind of demanding. So if I don't intend to run my games at 165 fps, there is no point in paying for this monitor?
TequilaHero
Neo Member
Thanks for the help, much appreciated.
So far, so bad. :/
Gonna see if a fairy comes during the night and removes the curse on it.
I will bribe someone to look at it and test other components as well.
Then probably RMA it by the end of the day.
Donald Bubbins
Member
Look at Cryorig. I have the M9i, happy with it.
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