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LilJoka

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tried overclocking my CPU (i7-6700K) but i guess i'm realising i really dont know what i'm doing.

i got it to 4.6Ghz and was running just fine in AIDA64/Firestrike and playing games (GTA V/Overwatch/Rocket League/Dark Souls 2) but the voltage was close to 1.45V and i've read that it's way too high. i don't want to burn out my CPU so turned it down to 4.5Ghz and the voltage dropped to 1.35V and of course was running just fine in AIDA64/Firestrike and playing games. However, I tried Prime95 Blend test and got an instant BSOD. now I'm at 4.4Ghz. i let Prime95 do up to 10 tests and no instability. temperature isn't an issue. during the prime95 test the cpu was sitting mostly about 65C and the max was 70C.

should i just settle with 4.4Ghz or can i push it a bit more while staying under 1.4V and 75C? when i'm adjusting the settings i'm doing it in the BIOS and changing the multiplier. voltage is set to auto. when i try manually setting it sometimes it turns red. also, my motherboard has a 1 click overclicking setting. when i enable that it sets it to 4.4Ghz so does that mean it's the best i can do?

Firstly, please stop, you really dont know what you are doing just yet.

The only right thing you said was that 1.45v is too much for a measly OC, 5Ghz territory there.

On average the 6700k will do 4.5Ghz 1.35v.

The first thing you need to do is control the Vcore, so stop usign AUTO vcore.
Set Vcore to Manual, and enter 1.35v.
I dont know what board you have, but youll want to play with the load Line Calibration level until the load Vcore is close to the Idle Vcore, for Asus that seems to be level 5.
Use CPUz to read the Vcore, and Prime95 blend to load the PC up to 100%.

Once you have that complete, start playing with the multiplier, start at 4.4Ghz, try Prime95 Blend.

Small FFT will probably cause the CPU to over heat.

I choose Blend, click custom, enter 256k for the minimum FFT length, and a 3/4 of my RAM in the memory field.

Dont overclock the memory whilst you do this, just set the memory to 2133Mhz.

Rune 10 minute test of Prime95 to get a feel for the Vcore/Temps/Stability, once you find a good balance, freeze the multiplier and start reducing the Vcore whilst running 1 hours Prime95 tests.
If you find the 1hour tests fail, then re think your Vcore/Multiplier balance. Maybe more vcore if temps are ok, or if not then reduce the multiplier and vcore.
 

LilJoka

Member

Ok, understand that there are a lot of downsides to this before considering generally.

1. Server type PSU, tiny little 40mm fan which could be loud. Cant swap out.
2. Only a 350W PSU, thats limiting any future GPU upgrades, the system is already using around 250W.
3. Propietry MSI Mobo - speaks for itself, unknown limitations/specs.
4. Blower type cooler on the CPU with no intake - expect hot and loud.
5. Tacky plastic design - down to your opinion.
6. No front intake, no exhausts - recipe for disaster.

Advantages:
1. Nice form factor
2. Good GPU cooling.

I would just build a system:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($238.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial BX200 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($299.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Arc Mini R2 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($96.80 @ B&H)
Total: $1043.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-02 07:44 EDT-0400

A LOT better than that MSI crap and no future limitations, that MSI build is over priced by atleast a couple 100 bucks.
That GTX 970 could be swapped for an RX 480, or wait for the 1070 to get to a reasonable price.

You could go for ITX with a Bitfenix Phenom, or Node 304 if you want a smaller build.
 

Arkanius

Member
I have the regular ATX not TG and its alright. You can definitely hear the fans depending on your set up and fan curve but its nothing too loud either. I went from a NZXT s340 and the noise on the phanteks is definitely quieter. To sum up, i wouldn't trade this case for anything else seeing that I placed aesthetics very high on my list but there are definitely quieter options.

I have a CM 690 Advanced II, which is quite noisy since it has a grilled top and front (No side panels though). It's full of Noctua fans though. (3x 140, 3x120)

I do not own either of the cases you mention, but I know HardwareCanucks have some review videos that at least mention the sound of the Phantek with tempered glass. If I remember correctly, the sound with the glass was only slightly louder than without the glass. They also just added a review of the DarkBase 900.

I am currently researching a new case, and I think I have decided on the Fractal Design Define R5.

The Define R5 was on my list as well but don't like the aesthetics much. The BeQuiet and the Phantek are absolutely gorgeous but the Phantek takes it on aesthetics (That tempered glass...) but the BeQuiet seems godlike in features (But more expensive). The silent performance of the BeQuiet seems amazing as well.

We built one that we were testing window patterns on at work yesterday.

This had a Corsair H100i v2 at the front, with two 140mm fans at the top and a 120mm(?) fan at the back. It wasn't what I would call loud, but you could hear the low noise of the fan and I could just about hear the pump. The 1080 in there wasn't under load either so that was silent - I don't know how it would be with that running too.

If you're after silence then that Dark Base 900 is probably the way to go, the previous BeQuiet! cases are really damn quiet.

So quite noticeable? It would probably be a sidegrade compared to my CM 690 Advanced II? The Phantek seemed to be more closed, which I thought would remove quite a bit of noise.

Tempered glass. No issues with noise at all. The Phanteks stock fans are really good as well. I replaced them all with Silent Wing 2s, but you really don't need to as they aren't loud. PC is silent when I'm not doing anything intensive, and its right next to me on the desk (fans at like 40% below 40 celcius or something like that).

Best case I've ever owned.

Not going to lie though, that DB 900 looks incredible. Especially the Pro version.

I have a full set of Noctua fans (3x 140mm fans, 3x120 mm fans) which would replace the stock Phantek fans.
 

LordAlu

Member
So quite noticeable? It would probably be a sidegrade compared to my CM 690 Advanced II? The Phantek seemed to be more closed, which I thought would remove quite a bit of noise.
I wouldn't say noticeable, but from two feet away I could tell it was on, just by the slight "woosh" of fans. Then again, it did have five fans in it (three 140mm out and two 120mm in), so with just the standard three 140mm fans in there it would probably be a little quieter. Plus it looks stunning in the flesh, although to see inside you really need light - the glass is tinted, so without any internal light it's quite hard to see inside.
 
I wouldn't say noticeable, but from two feet away I could tell it was on, just by the slight "woosh" of fans. Then again, it did have five fans in it (three 140mm out and two 120mm in), so with just the standard three 140mm fans in there it would probably be a little quieter. Plus it looks stunning in the flesh, although to see inside you really need light - the glass is tinted, so without any internal light it's quite hard to see inside.

Regarding internal lights, I reckon it looks good using just lights from the motherboard and the gpu if you have them. You can see in but it unlike with bright leds it doesn't highlight fingerprints and dust on the glass.
 

anddo0

Member
Ok, understand that there are a lot of downsides to this before considering generally.

1. Server type PSU, tiny little 40mm fan which could be loud. Cant swap out.
2. Only a 350W PSU, thats limiting any future GPU upgrades, the system is already using around 250W.
3. Propietry MSI Mobo - speaks for itself, unknown limitations/specs.
4. Blower type cooler on the CPU with no intake - expect hot and loud.
5. Tacky plastic design - down to your opinion.
6. No front intake, no exhausts - recipe for disaster.

Advantages:
1. Nice form factor
2. Good GPU cooling.

I would just build a system:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($238.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial BX200 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($299.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Arc Mini R2 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($96.80 @ B&H)
Total: $1043.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-02 07:44 EDT-0400

A LOT better than that MSI crap and no future limitations, that MSI build is over priced by atleast a couple 100 bucks.
That GTX 970 could be swapped for an RX 480, or wait for the 1070 to get to a reasonable price.

You could go for ITX with a Bitfenix Phenom, or Node 304 if you want a smaller build.

Thanks, this helps a lot.

It would be nice if the rx 480 were in stock. I can't find it (non-reference) anywhere online.
 

vector824

Member
...

I would just build a system:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($238.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial BX200 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($299.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Arc Mini R2 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($96.80 @ B&H)
Total: $1043.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-02 07:44 EDT-0400

A LOT better than that MSI crap and no future limitations, that MSI build is over priced by atleast a couple 100 bucks.
That GTX 970 could be swapped for an RX 480, or wait for the 1070 to get to a reasonable price.

You could go for ITX with a Bitfenix Phenom, or Node 304 if you want a smaller build.

Thanks, this helps a lot.

It would be nice if the rx 480 were in stock. I can't find it (non-reference) anywhere online.


That's a solid build for only $50 more.


Go with DDR4-3000mhz, it's only $10 extra, benchmarks show FPS improvements over slower memory.

Non-reference 480s wont be out for a couple weeks.
 

LordAlu

Member
Regarding internal lights, I reckon it looks good using just lights from the motherboard and the gpu if you have them. You can see in but it unlike with bright leds it doesn't highlight fingerprints and dust on the glass.
We felt that would be the case, as the board and graphics card both had a great orange glow, it just wasn't bright enough. We used some Aura LEDs on a low brightness and it looked much better. Unfortunately I don't have a picture of it with the LEDs in :(
 

ISee

Member
Looking at picking this card up

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inno...-graphics-card-n1080-1sdn-p6dn-gx-063-in.html

The cooling isn't a huge deal to me as it will be water cooled anyway, but the price is currently $200 cheaper than what I can a 1080 for in AUS.
Any reason I should avoid it?

Often enough inno3D saves some bugs by going with 'cheaper' PCBs (smaller and thinner), but honestly it's not a huge deal. And I don't even know if that's the case here, so ...

The Inno3D isn't bad. It's loud, it can get hot (still cooler than the founders edition) and it's a bit powerhungry. On the plus side, it's powerful (strong factory overclock), cheaper and it can be further pushed to ~2000mhz (most of the time). But temperature and noise shouldn't be a problem for you, so go for it.
And please don't forget to cool the voltage regulators too and not just the GPU and RAM (just in case, but you most probably already know that).
 

Arkanius

Member
I wouldn't say noticeable, but from two feet away I could tell it was on, just by the slight "woosh" of fans. Then again, it did have five fans in it (three 140mm out and two 120mm in), so with just the standard three 140mm fans in there it would probably be a little quieter. Plus it looks stunning in the flesh, although to see inside you really need light - the glass is tinted, so without any internal light it's quite hard to see inside.

A subtle woosh is better than what I have. I feel the wosh but I also feel HDD vibration and other noises from the case. Electrical noises mostly.

Thanks for the opinions, still undecided between the Dark Base 900 and it...
 

Keihart

Member
So....i was thinking about going with a Raid 0 configuration for the excellent build to have faster file transfers and whatnot, does Raid 5 works with the third disk being a different kind? like having 2 SSD and 1 HDD for redundacy?
 

dragn

Member
tried overclocking my CPU (i7-6700K) but i guess i'm realising i really dont know what i'm doing.

i got it to 4.6Ghz and was running just fine in AIDA64/Firestrike and playing games (GTA V/Overwatch/Rocket League/Dark Souls 2) but the voltage was close to 1.45V and i've read that it's way too high. i don't want to burn out my CPU so turned it down to 4.5Ghz and the voltage dropped to 1.35V and of course was running just fine in AIDA64/Firestrike and playing games. However, I tried Prime95 Blend test and got an instant BSOD. now I'm at 4.4Ghz. i let Prime95 do up to 10 tests and no instability. temperature isn't an issue. during the prime95 test the cpu was sitting mostly about 65C and the max was 70C.

should i just settle with 4.4Ghz or can i push it a bit more while staying under 1.4V and 75C? when i'm adjusting the settings i'm doing it in the BIOS and changing the multiplier. voltage is set to auto. when i try manually setting it sometimes it turns red. also, my motherboard has a 1 click overclicking setting. when i enable that it sets it to 4.4Ghz so does that mean it's the best i can do?

i would not oc to 4400mhz, thats just 200 more from turbo with more heat and powerdraw. my 6700k@4200 is prime stable with 1,150vcore and only reaches 50C
 
tried overclocking my CPU (i7-6700K) but i guess i'm realising i really dont know what i'm doing.

i got it to 4.6Ghz and was running just fine in AIDA64/Firestrike and playing games (GTA V/Overwatch/Rocket League/Dark Souls 2) but the voltage was close to 1.45V and i've read that it's way too high. i don't want to burn out my CPU so turned it down to 4.5Ghz and the voltage dropped to 1.35V and of course was running just fine in AIDA64/Firestrike and playing games. However, I tried Prime95 Blend test and got an instant BSOD. now I'm at 4.4Ghz. i let Prime95 do up to 10 tests and no instability. temperature isn't an issue. during the prime95 test the cpu was sitting mostly about 65C and the max was 70C.

should i just settle with 4.4Ghz or can i push it a bit more while staying under 1.4V and 75C? when i'm adjusting the settings i'm doing it in the BIOS and changing the multiplier. voltage is set to auto. when i try manually setting it sometimes it turns red. also, my motherboard has a 1 click overclicking setting. when i enable that it sets it to 4.4Ghz so does that mean it's the best i can do?

Try setting cpu current limit to 255.

As others have said, stop using auto on stuff.
 

xkramz

Member
tried overclocking my CPU (i7-6700K) but i guess i'm realising i really dont know what i'm doing.

i got it to 4.6Ghz and was running just fine in AIDA64/Firestrike and playing games (GTA V/Overwatch/Rocket League/Dark Souls 2) but the voltage was close to 1.45V and i've read that it's way too high. i don't want to burn out my CPU so turned it down to 4.5Ghz and the voltage dropped to 1.35V and of course was running just fine in AIDA64/Firestrike and playing games. However, I tried Prime95 Blend test and got an instant BSOD. now I'm at 4.4Ghz. i let Prime95 do up to 10 tests and no instability. temperature isn't an issue. during the prime95 test the cpu was sitting mostly about 65C and the max was 70C.

should i just settle with 4.4Ghz or can i push it a bit more while staying under 1.4V and 75C? when i'm adjusting the settings i'm doing it in the BIOS and changing the multiplier. voltage is set to auto. when i try manually setting it sometimes it turns red. also, my motherboard has a 1 click overclicking setting. when i enable that it sets it to 4.4Ghz so does that mean it's the best i can do?
I worry about going over 1.3V on my CPU

But I'm at 4.5ghz @ 1.295V and my ddr4 @ 3200 @ 1.345 I wouldn't Wanna go further.
 

nightmare-slain

Gold Member
I worry about going over 1.3V on my CPU

But I'm at 4.5ghz @ 1.295V and my ddr4 @ 3200 @ 1.345 I wouldn't Wanna go further.

i've just reset my cpu and memory to their defaults cause i obviously have no idea what i'm doing and i don't want to damage my system. i'm too scared to try it again. i thought i'd be OK with it having OC'd my GPU but this is totally different.
 

dragn

Member
i've just reset my cpu and memory to their defaults cause i obviously have no idea what i'm doing and i don't want to damage my system. i'm too scared to try it again. i thought i'd be OK with it having OC'd my GPU but this is totally different.

dont use auto settings in the bios please, cpu uses 1,35-1,4 voltage then
 
A subtle woosh is better than what I have. I feel the wosh but I also feel HDD vibration and other noises from the case. Electrical noises mostly.

Thanks for the opinions, still undecided between the Dark Base 900 and it...

I sit right next to my PC and you know it's there but it isn't anything crazy. I definitely recommend the evolv and it looks even better in person.
 

WadeitOut

Member
Those waiting for the 1070 stocks, how about considering this MSI 980Ti gold edition, $420 after rebate, and uses a copper heatsink.

Most AIB 980Ti can go up to 30% faster than stock ones, should i think this should be faster on average than 1070. It is 6GB vs 8GB ram though.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0166T31O0/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Or just cancel your Amazon order and buy one of the many 1070s popping up on Newegg for an hour like the STRIX just was.

Then again Newegg jacked the prices up on all of their cards.
 

CHC

Member
Eh I give up on this 2133 MHz RAM, seems a lost cause without access to the SA / IO voltage on my semi-budget old motherboard.

I just have it clocked at 1600 and my 2500k is back at its normal 4.5 GHz. Still seem to be a semi-appreciable boost in minmum framerate from my old 1333 MHz.

Overclocked my 1070 G1 by 100 core / 300 mem also. Seems stable but it reached 90 once! :-/

Overall quite happy with my upgrades but I'm kinda miffed I had to settle on the low speed RAM clock....
 

Kimawolf

Member
So im helping my cousin update his gaming rig. He has a I5 6400 cpu andca 760 gpu. Is the 480 a huge improvement over it? Or should he wait for the 1060?
 
i've just reset my cpu and memory to their defaults cause i obviously have no idea what i'm doing and i don't want to damage my system. i'm too scared to try it again. i thought i'd be OK with it having OC'd my GPU but this is totally different.

Dude. Go to overclock.net and read the tutorial for your board manufacturer and chip. Don't quit just because you didn't instantly know what you were doing.
 
So im helping my cousin update his gaming rig. He has a I5 6400 cpu andca 760 gpu. Is the 480 a huge improvement over it? Or should he wait for the 1060?
Either one us a big upgrade. Of he's not in a hurry, the nvidia one should be announced next week. Then decide I suppose?

I'd go for an aftermarket card in either case.
 

mochi~

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Subaru

Member
What are your GPU temperatures like while running these benchmarks? GPU could be throttling or overheating.

Re: the ram, you'll have to set them to the correct specifications in the bios. If you're lucky you can just enable XMP. In either case, set it to the correct voltage (1.35V).

Thanks for your answer! I've enable XMP and it shows in advanced option that is using 1.3444 or something like that (but in the settings is 1.35V) - and 3000MHZ

But in the first BIOS screen it apears 2133. wtf. It still frozing.

So I've tried to take off my GTX 670 and ta-dah! It seems that my pc is working. Strange enoguh, my GPU temperature was 70C at maximum, it is not that high.

I will try to clean it up and see if it solves the problem.

EDIT: I remember now that the NVIDIA Driver was crashing on my old setup too... oh god, I can't believe that my GPU is fucked up =(
 

Manoko

Member
Just finished putting it together :) Gonna have to wait until Windows 10 is on there and stuff but dunno what to try first, warhammer, doom or rise of the tomb raider...

Congrats ! I'm jealous, enjoy !
You should maybe invest in a new fan for the CPU. It's always safer.
 

cormack12

Gold Member
Cheers - like a kid now, will be up all night!

Memory is showing up as 2400mhz instead of 3000mhz in BIOS so gonna need to change that although options are greyed out, will have a google :)
 

dragn

Member
Cheers - like a kid now, will be up all night!

Memory is showing up as 2400mhz instead of 3000mhz in BIOS so gonna need to change that although options are greyed out, will have a google :)

download cpu-z and look in the memory tab, should be showing 1500 if 3000mhz oc is active
 

Jackben

bitch I'm taking calls.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($238.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($74.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($92.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 4GB Video Card ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair Air 540 ATX Mid Tower Case ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($70.98 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan ($17.55 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan ($17.55 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1096.81

How does this look as a good new build? My last PC I put together back in 2012, it had an i5-2500k and an Asus Radeon HD 6870 that has served me well the last 6 years.
 

vector824

Member
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($238.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($74.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($92.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 4GB Video Card ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair Air 540 ATX Mid Tower Case ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($70.98 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan ($17.55 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan ($17.55 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1096.81

How does this look as a good new build? My last PC I put together back in 2012, it had an i5-2500k and an Asus Radeon HD 6870 that has served me well the last 6 years.

That looks really solid, should definitely last you another 4-6 years. You going to put in a RX480 or 1070 in place of the 980?

should I absolutely avoid AMD cpu even if I want to cut down cost?

Depends on your application and budget. I put in a A10-Series APU in my father-in-law's box because he was on a budget... it runs Minecraft just fine lol.

 

Jackben

bitch I'm taking calls.
That looks really solid, should definitely last you another 4-6 years. You going to put in a RX480 or 1070 in place of the 980?
I'd definitely consider it. Is there anything I might want to bump up slightly on this initial buy to make that possible?

The other concern I had was the (physical) ram size, I've run into issues before with them interfering with larger CPU coolers.
 

OneUh8

Member
I'd definitely consider it. Is there anything I might want to bump up slightly on this initial buy to make that possible?

The other concern I had was the (physical) ram size, I've run into issues before with them interfering with larger CPU coolers.

I would opt for a cheaper case. Something like the Fractal Designs Define S or whatever you might like that is cheaper, and put that money toward a 1070 imo. Everything else is really solid

Oh and that Corsair ram is good on height. Not tall at all.
 

JonCha

Member
Saw a review of the Dark Base Pro 900. Love the design and the idea of a quieter case but the design seems a bit overkill, maybe, for example the many HDD slots.
 

GuessWho

Member
That looks really solid, should definitely last you another 4-6 years. You going to put in a RX480 or 1070 in place of the 980?



Depends on your application and budget. I put in a A10-Series APU in my father-in-law's box because he was on a budget... it runs Minecraft just fine lol.


For gaming, but i'm not going to be playing any vr games or anything on extreme high. probably something that matches with a medium range v. card.
 

vector824

Member
I'd definitely consider it. Is there anything I might want to bump up slightly on this initial buy to make that possible?

The other concern I had was the (physical) ram size, I've run into issues before with them interfering with larger CPU coolers.

Your CPU, RAM and HDD are all fine. I have that same cooler and don't have any clearance issues. Are you set on that case exactly? The NZXT S340 is really good and MUCH cheaper, but not quite as slick looking I admit.

For gaming, but i'm not going to be playing any vr games or anything on extreme high. probably something that matches with a medium range v. card.

Well, here is how the A10 7860k compares to an i5 6600k. So you should be fine for most games as long as you have a decent GPU, even the onboard graphics aren't bad.
 

Arkanius

Member
Saw a review of the Dark Base Pro 900. Love the design and the idea of a quieter case but the design seems a bit overkill, maybe, for example the many HDD slots.

Love the case feature wise (The Qi charger <3) but split between that and the EVOLV TG
 

drotahorror

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Anyone ever plugged up their PC's to a kill-a-watt? I've used it on other devices and thought it was accurate. TV's pulling 40-50 watts, electric fans pulling 80-110 watts, everything seemed pretty legit.

But today I plugged my PC's surge protector into it (maybe inaccurate readings when plugged up this way?) and fired up The Witcher 3.

180 watts? That's with a monitor, 4 hdds, gtx 1080, 6700k etc.

That can't be accurate. It should have been pulling what, around 400 or more especially with a monitor likely pulling 30-40 watts.

Did I do something wrong?
 
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