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"I Need a New PC!" 2016 Plus Ultra! HBM2, VR, 144Hz, and 4K for all!
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Quicksilver4648
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Hey, I have a quick audio question that hopefully someone might be able to shed some light on. My PC has a Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D PCIe sound card that is connected to my receiver through S/PDIF TOSLINK. From my understanding S/PDIF has a maximum bandwidth support of 24 bit / 48k Hz. While it does sound good to the ears it isn't the highest quality home audio available. If I route my audio through my nVidia GPU via HDMI the audio is 24 bit / 192k Hz which is great. However, if I use the GPU HDMI route the audio quality simply isn't as good. Maybe I am just crazy but the audio just doesn't sound as "clean" and the "punch" from the speakers aren't as strong. From what I've read integrated audio (motherboard or GPU) simply can't match the quality of a discrete sound card.
So here is my question: What is the best best method to output PC audio at 24 bit / 192k Hz from a discrete sound card? I would prefer to not buy a super expensive sound card that has a dedicated HDMI output.
So here is my question: What is the best best method to output PC audio at 24 bit / 192k Hz from a discrete sound card? I would prefer to not buy a super expensive sound card that has a dedicated HDMI output.
Lockjaw333
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I currently have my mobo and cpu, case and psu arriving tomorrow.
I already installed the cpu into the mobo socket.
Any harm in installing my hyper 212 evo cooler the day before, and installing the mobo into the case tomorrow?
Is it recommended to run the system and get it "hot" so that it spreads better shortly after installing? I'd just like to knock out as much as I can up front since I have limited time with two little ones.
I already installed the cpu into the mobo socket.
Any harm in installing my hyper 212 evo cooler the day before, and installing the mobo into the case tomorrow?
Is it recommended to run the system and get it "hot" so that it spreads better shortly after installing? I'd just like to knock out as much as I can up front since I have limited time with two little ones.
Vigilant Walrus
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21:9 vs 4k by hardwarecanucks; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ0a0eAPT7s
I don't know much about building PCs so this question will probably come off as weird, but anyway.
My desk has a lower-level PC tower space that measures D19"xW12"xH18", enclosed on all sides but the front except for a hole for cables in the back, though there is a removable shelf I could take out to get 6" more height. Is that a big enough space for a PC to still have proper ventilation, and how powerful of something could fit?
My desk has a lower-level PC tower space that measures D19"xW12"xH18", enclosed on all sides but the front except for a hole for cables in the back, though there is a removable shelf I could take out to get 6" more height. Is that a big enough space for a PC to still have proper ventilation, and how powerful of something could fit?
ipukespiders
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This sofa is overkill for my gaming room (9 ft x 9 ft), and I'm looking for a good quality computer chair and a small desk so I can actually use a mouse and keyboard properly while at the same time keeping on using my big screen tv (and all my consoles).
Recommend me a god tier computer chair.
Bloodember
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Honestly everyone's comfort level is different, what I like in a chair you may not like. Your best bet is to go to a store and sit in some and find the one you like.
Megalosaro
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ipukespiders
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I've tried low cost chairs before, they just don't hold up for long sessions. I have ~$500 for my budget. I prefer armless chairs as well.
One of the major reasons I avoided that monitorNew PG279Q has backlight bleed in all four corners.
Got my secondary 500GB 850 EVO up and running. Feels good man.
I'm moving my Steam installation over to the new D: drive; I should be fine just installing it to D:\Steam, right? I know you don't really want to do that on the Windows drive but I couldn't think of a reason not to on a secondary drive.
I'm moving my Steam installation over to the new D: drive; I should be fine just installing it to D:\Steam, right? I know you don't really want to do that on the Windows drive but I couldn't think of a reason not to on a secondary drive.
Any answers on this?
super-famicom
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Read the OP and out the suggested builds. Play around on PCPartPicker and post your potentiall builds here. I did that and got a ton of help.
This guide goes over each part individually and helped me out: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-your-own-pc,2601.html
Awesome, thanks for the advice. Was it hard to build your pc? How long did it take if you don't mind me asking.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
I'm not comfortable in my ability to build a custom PC, but I really want a great gaming PC for once. I was looking at the Newegg custom built ones, and price aside, is this a good PC in terms of power, stability, customizability, and airflow (for temperatures)? I would like to do VR with this too.
http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16883152145
http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16883152145
super-famicom
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I spent a while researching the parts I wanted by reading reviews and this thread. Then I watched a bunch of how to videos before I even started to build (and also while building).
It took me about 4 hours to put everything together. I was a bit nervous and triple checked everything and referred to YouTube tutorials and the manuals to make sure everything was fine. In the end, I turned it on, installed Windows and everything worked fine. It wasn't difficult at all, but I was still nervous, more due to my personality than the task itself.
I haven't done any overclocking yet, but am looking to try it soon.
nightmare-slain
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i7-6700K, sli 980, 32GB. that's pretty damn powerful but i'm gonna say you could do way better. i'm not in the US so not sure about $3700 but that seems way too high.
what is it about building a PC that is putting you off? if you need help deciding on what parts to get we can help you out. here is one i put together real quick. it has pretty much the same specs as that prebuilt but i put in a 1080 instead of SLI 980. the 1080 is the best card out right now. as you can see the price is no where near $3700. is it really worth the extra $2000 to avoid building it yourself?
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($345.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-K ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($92.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Founders Edition Video Card ($699.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define S ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($106.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($83.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1746.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-16 03:33 EDT-0400
or if you really don't mind spending $3700 here is a more powerful build yet still cheaper:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($345.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($129.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VIII HERO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($199.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 PRO 2TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($879.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Founders Edition Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($699.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Founders Edition Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($699.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($154.57 @ B&H)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($106.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($83.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $3440.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-16 03:39 EDT-0400
Saintruski
Unconfirmed Member
For 3700 no that isn't great at all...building a computer might be kind of a scary thought at first but I really recommend doing it. if not you might be better off going through someone like origin pc, puget, or digital storm... I've never used them, idk there prices or if there good prices because you customize your computer for your needs then you get a total, but anything has to be better than that for what you get...
didn't even know NCIX did this, might shop there more often for friends and family to save me time
thanks.Aztechnology
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It is, and I'll give you a build for it. But if highly recommend trying to stretch a little bit more to around $700 for future proofing.
$600-650
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170M Pro4S Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($99.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($36.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Other: AMD RX 480 4/8GB ($200.00)
Total: $590.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-16 03:36 EDT-0400
$700+
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 300 55.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($9.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170M Pro4S Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($99.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($36.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Other: AMD RX 480 4GB($200.00) 8GB ($250)
Total: $719.42-769.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-16 03:30 EDT-0400
The second build will give you more peace of mind knowing the processor is overclockable and will likely last you much longer and give you better performance even now than the I3.
Aztechnology
Member
Go to PC part picker. Design a build, select NCIX as your preferred vender. Then let them build the PC for you with warranty.
http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=7842
Try something like this for over $2000 less and more performance.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($345.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-K ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($92.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Founders Edition Video Card ($699.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define S ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Thermaltake 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($83.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1628.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-16 03:52 EDT-0400
nightmare-slain
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i thought it was 2 desktop 980's but it's apparently the mobile versions which would explain why it only has a 450W psu. what a complete rip off.
TatteredHat
Member
Yeah I thought I was missing something but damn, that thing is priced about $2000 too high, lol.
nightmare-slain
Gold Member
seriously i find that really shady. $3700 and it has mobile gpu's in it. MSI in this case are banking on people who are worried about building a PC or people who really don't know what to look for. i feel sorry for anyone who has bought one of these.
Saintruski
Unconfirmed Member
My X99 platform cost about 200 dollars more with custom water cooling...so the price has me stumped
Edit: ooooh I get it it's a Mac marketing thing?
Like the apple trash can that cost like 5 grand and you get like FirePro d500s and a 3-4 year old Xeon.
Aztechnology
Member
Your X99 build was $3800? What the hell was inside it? A Mac Pro?
Saintruski
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5960x, 2 1080s, rampage v edition 10 (since my MSI godlike died) Evga 1600 P2, case labs SMA8, mixture of EK and aquacomputer for cooling. And Samsung and Intel for NVMe storage, other small things.
Aztechnology
Member
Butwhy.gif? Guessing you do professional work? Still those are some overkill parts. I could never even imagine XD too fat past any point of diminishing returns for my tastes.
nightmare-slain
Gold Member
Saintruski
Unconfirmed Member
I like to game, girlfriend does video editing for school(or whatever it is she does is lol I probably shouldn't call it editing since I get yelled at every time I call it that), I do photo editing, so I built a computer that does it all and looks nice since I can afford it, obviously not recommended for everyone.
And it's actually to slow for some of the things my girlfriend does in 3DS Max/Maya I can't figure out if it's the hardware and I need to build her something with workstation parts... Or if it's something in the drivers or the software
wow. that is a nice set up
Thanks it's been a pain so far though with multiple motherboard failures...I've learned to stay away from MSI and not use ASUS customer service and buy a newegg warranty over the process of this computer...not my first computer but my last time using asus and msi
nightmare-slain
Gold Member
what was up with the MSI board? i have one it's the Z170A G43 plus. it's still early but it's been OK with me so far. also have an MSI 1070.
Saintruski
Unconfirmed Member
Not a clue one day my computer started rebooting randomly, didn't matter if it was under load or not. EDIT: no bsod, no error screen, just a hard reboot. Figured it's the PSU. Tried 4 different PSUs I knew worked. Then thought it was the RAM mem test showed nothing, tried every stick solo, then a different set, nothing different happened, checked connections, drives. No signs of water leaking from my cooling, nothing. Put in a different motherboard it worked. Didn't see any blown caps, any burn marks or anything...however RMAed it and then the next 2 boards arrived DOA and I gave up. That's my story with MSI.
Everyone will have a different experience but it's nowhere near my experience with ASUS(which I don't recommend do as I say not as I do
). It's not like I wouldn't recommend MSI I guess I was just sick of wasting tim with people I didn't feel we're doing proper QA testing, it very well could've been a bad batch, and that's it, their product is still very good when it's working.
Big Chungus
Member
xfx r7 265
Oh wow! Thanks so much! I was hoping 600 or so would be enough, but I think I'll take your advice and go for the i5. Thanks for putting together 2 builds
SGRU
Member
Saintruski
Unconfirmed Member
Damn to bad your looking for something small
What are you looking to do, add more expansion for a NAS? What does buying a NAS have to do with a small ATX case I'm lost lol
Any ways the smallest cases off the top of my head before going itx and mATX is the source 210 and zm-t1...bullet series from caselabs has ATX compatible trays.
Edit: if your looking into building a NAS that's got more expansion, PM me I got a few of these fully loaded to sell...it's not small that's for sure.
Saintruski
Unconfirmed Member
Overclocking is fun! Generally when your hardware is aging falling behind then you go and squeeze more life out of it. Do it properly though! Read up well on how to do it.
SGRU
Member
Damn to bad your looking for something small
What are you looking to do, add more expansion for a NAS? What does buying a NAS have to do with a small ATX case I'm lost lol
Any ways the smallest cases off the top of my head before going itx and mATX is the source 210 and zm-t1...bullet series from caselabs has ATX compatible trays.
Edit: if your looking into building a NAS that's got more expansion, PM me I got a few of these fully loaded to sell...it's not small that's for sure.
I've bought a NAS so I have removed all the internal drives from my PC. What I want is a smaller case for my PC, only for the motherboard, PSU, graphics card and two SSD's.
Probably I didn't explained it properly, lol.
Might have a better chance asking here.
Anybody use malwarebytes premium? My free year is almost up and I can buy with 5 bucks off.
I can buy multiple up to 10. If I buy say like 3 and use 1, can I use the other 2 in order after that one?
Basically do they expire when not used?
Anybody use malwarebytes premium? My free year is almost up and I can buy with 5 bucks off.
I can buy multiple up to 10. If I buy say like 3 and use 1, can I use the other 2 in order after that one?
Basically do they expire when not used?
Saintruski
Unconfirmed Member
Corsair air 540 is nice looking case, premium feel and look without breaking the bank on mountain mods and case labs for that same premium feel and look, it's smaller, good air flow and drive placement.
Saintruski
Unconfirmed Member
Doesn't make sense that they wouldn't. Edit: Might want to email them and check.
Jezbollah
Member
Those licenses will have identical expiry dates. The reason you have multiple buy deals is if you have multiple devices in the home.
Lockjaw333
Member
I'll ask one more time before doing it.
Any harm in installing the hyper 212 evo cooler onto the cpu/motherboard now and having it sit until my parts come tonight?
Any harm in installing the hyper 212 evo cooler onto the cpu/motherboard now and having it sit until my parts come tonight?
I would advise against it, there's a higher chance it could cause a problem because the mobo isn't secured or supported properly. It's definitely easier than doing it outside the case and there's plenty of people that install it that way, but I'm not sure it's the best idea.
ShadowKingpin
Member
Hey guys, I am building my first X99 PC (5820k) and want to make sure that I made the right decision with my mobo. I have chosen the ASrock Fatal1ty X99 Killer. Has anyone here had any issues with it? I have ASrock with my Quad-Core PC and it has lasted 4+ years. I know the ASUS Deluxe X99 boards are popular and cheaper, but are they worth it over the ASrock? I am only going ASrock specifically for the great reviews and low failure rates, but if ASUS is good, then I may save some money.
Okay thanks. Do you have an opinion on the other premium software they offer? The anti exploit?
So i bought parts yesterday and build my first PC.
The only thing missing is a new video card, I wanted to get the RX 480, but there never seems to be stock in Canada. What would be the next best thing to get 60fps 1080p gaming? Should I go to the 1070, or are there cheaper alternatives?
The only thing missing is a new video card, I wanted to get the RX 480, but there never seems to be stock in Canada. What would be the next best thing to get 60fps 1080p gaming? Should I go to the 1070, or are there cheaper alternatives?
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