Prime95? If yes, plenty of room to push a higher OC.
And, yeah, the D15 should offer much better cooling, rivaling high end AIO, compare the the budget 212.
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Prime95? If yes, plenty of room to push a higher OC.
And, yeah, the D15 should offer much better cooling, rivaling high end AIO, compare the the budget 212.
Atraveller
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Ah that explains it. My 4.5GHz 6700K idles at around 36~40 degrees, and room temperature is around 32. 66~70 under load.
Sanic
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Good to know. I have some 480s available locally now so I may take the plunge.
Prime after 3 hours. Will try higher OC today and see what I get push.
Jesus man, 32? Your pc be sweatin'
FairXchange
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480 is the better card.
I'm also going to use this setup! What case did you choose and how many Fan's did you install?
These temps are very nice! Can't wait for mine
Atraveller
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It's summer, but I don't want the AC on the entire day.Jesus man, 32? Your pc be sweatin'
nightmare-slain
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480. they are $250 right? for $80 more you're getting a newer card that will be supported for many years yet. it has the extra 4GB VRAM. AMD cards are doing better at DX12/Vulkan compared to Nvidia. For example, the Doom Vulkan update gave the 480 almost a 30% boost from 70fps to 90fps! My card, the 1070, only got a 9% boost from 108fps to 115fps.
definitely go with the 480 but if you can wait then you might be interested in the 1060.
I'm using a Fractal R5 with the two stock fans.
Ya well, it's summer here as well but I don't have my pc sitting out in the sun
My pc is in the basement so it keeps cool.
Ban Puncher
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New PG279Q has backlight bleed in all four corners.
NobleXenon
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Alright, I think I have a solid computer build. If there is anything wrong, please let me know.
Computer Case : Fractal Define S
Processor : Intel Core i7-6850K
CPU Cooler : Corsair Hydro Series H115i
Motherboard : ASRock Fatal1ty Gaming x99x
RAM : G.Skill Ripjaw 4 Series 8x8GB DDR2400
Storage : Samsung PRO Ultra M.2 512GB
Fans Extra : 4x Corsair SP140
Power Supply : EVGA 220-P2 Platnium 80 Plus 1000w
What I can salvage from my dead computer;
Video Card : GTX980Ti
Future upgrades;
2nd Video Card : GTX1280Ti
This build should be able to support many things at once on four 1080p monitors -or- three 1080p monitors plus one 4k TV.
Computer Case : Fractal Define S
Processor : Intel Core i7-6850K
CPU Cooler : Corsair Hydro Series H115i
Motherboard : ASRock Fatal1ty Gaming x99x
RAM : G.Skill Ripjaw 4 Series 8x8GB DDR2400
Storage : Samsung PRO Ultra M.2 512GB
Fans Extra : 4x Corsair SP140
Power Supply : EVGA 220-P2 Platnium 80 Plus 1000w
What I can salvage from my dead computer;
Video Card : GTX980Ti
Future upgrades;
2nd Video Card : GTX1280Ti
This build should be able to support many things at once on four 1080p monitors -or- three 1080p monitors plus one 4k TV.
Go at least DDR4 3000mhz, benchmarks show a marked improvement with faster RAM speeds. Good call on the m.2 card. I love mine.
Aztechnology
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Ok I have to know if other sites can corroborate Digital foundaries conclusion on RAM speed and gaming performance with sticks of RAM with similar timings just at different frequencies. From everything else I can find, they've shown there's little improvement. Yet for some reason Digital Foundaries has widely different results. Why has there been so little research done by PC gaming hardware sites to test DDR4 memory scaling? I feel like one source GAF uses to recommend more expensive ram isn't good enough.
PS not saying you are necessarily basing your opinion off the digital foundry video, I just generally see it referenced when people recommend higher RAM speeds.
Edit: Anandtech for instance shows very little performance changes but they are also using older games and an older GPU . Outside Digital Foundry not many places have modern testing.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8959/...-3200-with-gskill-corsair-adata-and-crucial/6
Another site that doesn't really corroborate their findings
http://www.legitreviews.com/ddr4-me...nding-the-best-ddr4-memory-kit-speed_170340/5
Well now is a good time to get into it. The new Intel socket should be around for awhile, components are relatively cheap. A good $100 mobo that has the z170 chipset will last you for years if you go i5 6500, DDR4 2133mhz, and small SSD. Then in a year or two upgrade to a Kabylake processor and more+faster ram better GPU etc... What's your budget?
Yeah that's fair. I'd like to see that too if you can find it.
Little Old Man
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What's the rotation with Intel CPU sockets these days? Every three years right? And the 6th gen 1151's are the new socket for the next two years as well right?
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapp...ddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-37b-sp.html
Help pls.
About to pull the trigger on this card, I'm coming from a GTX580 which I was alarmed to find out is nearly 6 years old now.
Any compelling reason not to go for the above?
Help pls.
About to pull the trigger on this card, I'm coming from a GTX580 which I was alarmed to find out is nearly 6 years old now.
Any compelling reason not to go for the above?
I am a Nvidia man myself, but I would always go for the newer model and extra Vram, Like other have said it all depends on how well DX 12 & Mantle is supported the next few years. Unless you are struggling for money,I would avoid pre-owned stuff unless you know the previous owner.
Sapphire is one of, if not THE best, third party card manufacturer of AMD cards. I would shoot.
NobleXenon
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My (now dead) computer I built five years ago had 2x8GB DDR3 1600 RAM. Two years after I built it I noticed my RAM was almost always getting used at around 65-70 percent. When I went to buy the same RAM to double it to 32GB, the price of that very same RAM doubled in price. I was like, "WTF?" This time I'm making sure to just go big the first time and fill them all.
I do plan on overclocking my CPU and stuff in the future, so if 3000 is better, I'll make sure it is the 8x8GB variety. I listed the 2400 because I sorted out the filters on Newegg to "Best Rating" and it came up as the first, lol.
I do plan on overclocking my CPU and stuff in the future, so if 3000 is better, I'll make sure it is the 8x8GB variety. I listed the 2400 because I sorted out the filters on Newegg to "Best Rating" and it came up as the first, lol.
Cool. Just needed a nudge. Think I'll go for it.
Thank you. I was thinking about the same case fo a while now. Finally completed my rg configuration:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (€345.17 @ Amazon Deutschland)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler (€87.99 @ Aquatuning)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€141.90 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€89.44 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Samsung SM951 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (€134.13 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€53.06 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (€101.04 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: be quiet! STRAIGHT POWER 10 CM 600W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (€109.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0 DVD/CD Writer (€14.59 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case Fan: Fractal Design GP14-WT 68.4 CFM 140mm Fan (€15.08 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Monitor: AOC G2460PG 24.0" 144Hz Monitor (€399.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1491.30 (without GPU)
What do you guys think? Can I go cheaper for the MB with a board with similiar oc features or is this the best one?
Looks solid. That mobo should be fine. Go with this PSU though because it will give you more overhead and is a better brand:
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (108.14 @ Amazon Deutschland)
thanks I will look into it
nightmare-slain
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1151 is the newest starting with skylake. kabylake will use it too. i'm not sure about cannonlake which will be their first 10nm so maybe not.
Rumors are that it will still use the same 1151 but need a new chipset, still necessitating a new mobo.
Can M.2 SSDs be installed on a desktop motherboard? I'm looking to keep things clean and avoid wires wherever I can.
Specifically, I'm wondering about using this as the primary storage drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147398
for this mobo:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0165YUDTM/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Good idea? Bad idea? I don't really need a lot of storage, I'm looking to go fairly cheap with the build, and I want an SSD.
Specifically, I'm wondering about using this as the primary storage drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147398
for this mobo:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0165YUDTM/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Good idea? Bad idea? I don't really need a lot of storage, I'm looking to go fairly cheap with the build, and I want an SSD.
They can, but only on motherboards with M.2 connectors (which that motherboard doesn't have). If you haven't bought the motherboard yet you could search out one with an M.2 connector, but they're typically only on the higher end mobos.
m.2's are great, I have one and its awesome. However, that SSD wont fit into that board without a PCIe to m.2 adapter, and you only have one slot so it's not going to work unless you pick a more expensive mobo like this one.
Thanks guys. Maybe I'll just go for a regular SATA SSD so I don't have to get an expensive mobo.
Aztechnology
Member
Interesting.
https://youtu.be/ESeoexGLVFU
The only really appreciable differences beyond 2400mhz seemed to be in Fallout 4.
https://youtu.be/ESeoexGLVFU
The only really appreciable differences beyond 2400mhz seemed to be in Fallout 4.
HERE is the readable version for those at work. Looks like over 2400mhz you level out for performance, unless it's Fallout or Just Cause. Question is, with new games in development will we see this type of improvement more? The difference is about $10 a stick, so you're looking at $20-40 more for 3000 over 2400. On a budget? Go 2400. Got the coin? Go 3000 and be more "future proof" (whatever that means anyway).
Aztechnology
Member
The opposite could be said too as it seems more of the games with solid engines aren't affected much even at 2133 (Fallout 4's broken engine shouldn't inform a buying decision lol). However, I see your point. It's hard to know for sure what the future will hold. That being said, based on the past I think it's a relatively safe bet to say, ldon' stretch your budget or pay much more for 3000+mhz RAM unless there's a deal or the pricing is insignificant. Honestly the timings are also as important for performance as frequencies above or at 2133/2400mhz generally.
Sanic
Member
So I actually went and bought that RX 480, but I seem to be having some issues. Uninstalled my old Nvidia drivers from my previous card, popped the 480 in, and installed the latest drivers. I'm now getting a lot of display driver crashes.
-Launched into Ark map, crash as i'm almost done loading into the map.
-Launch into a game in Dolphin, crash as I hit the game's title screen.
-Some small stuttering in Dragon's Dogma
What's going on here?
-Launched into Ark map, crash as i'm almost done loading into the map.
-Launch into a game in Dolphin, crash as I hit the game's title screen.
-Some small stuttering in Dragon's Dogma
What's going on here?
Aztechnology
Member
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Don't know if it's this way anymore but uninstalling nvidia hardware and software and replacing it different hardware has been known to cause issues and doing a complete reformat was the best solution but maybe something like driversweeper has made this more practical
Sanic
Member
No, didn't run that (hadn't heard of it before actually). I'll give it a shot.
Specs:
i5 6600k
16GB DDR4
500 watt PSU
Edit: Removed remnants of the old nvidia drivers. Still crashing in dolphin. Going to try uninstalling and reinstalling the Radeon drivers now.
Sanic
Member
I think my driver crashes were isolated. I can no longer reproduce the issue in Ark or Dragon's Dogma, and Dolphin only crashes in a specific game with the backend set to DX12. Not sure why that's happening, but that's the only reproducible scenario so I'd imagine it's a dolphin/hardware comparability issue.
SMAA is better than FXAA but SMAA is also more taxing on your hardware and FXAA does as a good job. This is basically all I know.
Guys I have a problem...
I have the possibility to choose from a Zotac omega 980ti capable of sustaining 1470mhz easily or a Gainward phoenix 1070(the basic model). Both would be 467.
I don't know what oc I could reach on the 1070...damn this is proving to be harder than it should. lol
I have the possibility to choose from a Zotac omega 980ti capable of sustaining 1470mhz easily or a Gainward phoenix 1070(the basic model). Both would be 467.
I don't know what oc I could reach on the 1070...damn this is proving to be harder than it should. lol
Go with the 1070. In addition to the extra 2GB VRAM, it's slightly faster by default and will itself have some degree of overclocking headroom. A core overclock resulting in a 1470MHz boost clock on the 980 Ti represents an increase of 10% and I'd be surprised -- nay, shocked -- if you couldn't hit that (+10%; 1851MHz boost) on the Gainward. Even some FEs can sustain ~2GHz.
There's no need for a UPS unless your PC absolutely needs to be on 24/7, but a surge-protected power board isn't a bad idea. Many come with a warranty that covers damaged devices up to $x, however as you might expect there's a lot of fine print there. (I don't have any recommendations myself, but someone here might.)
Surge protector sure, but I wouldn't necessarily recommend a battery back up unless you really needed one.
I thought the 980ti once overclocked was faster than an overclocked 1070. Guess I thought wrong. Thanks JaseC.
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