Flying Toaster
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I had soundsticks back in the day at my office when I had an office. They were not bad and matched what I needed for decor in the office.
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I had soundsticks back in the day at my office when I had an office. They were not bad and matched what I needed for decor in the office.
Dominican Power
Member
Any reputable sites that sell pre built rigs?
Flying Toaster
Member
Honestly you should look into building it yourself. With GAF and the first post of this thread building a PC is easy and effortless.
Dominican Power
Member
I just want a rig that can play fighting games and shooters.
Ok so I have been thinking 7700k or 1700 setup since Ryzen was out there.
Today there was event in 1 store in finland with some nice sales.
There was -25% from 7700k and z270 mobo, they made the decision much easier for me.
7700k 299
STRIX Z270F GAMING, ATX 170
EVGA 650W SuperNOVA 650 G2 109
Gskill 16GB (2x8GB), Trident Z, DDR4 3200MHz 153
Total: 734
Should be good right?
Today there was event in 1 store in finland with some nice sales.
There was -25% from 7700k and z270 mobo, they made the decision much easier for me.
7700k 299
STRIX Z270F GAMING, ATX 170
EVGA 650W SuperNOVA 650 G2 109
Gskill 16GB (2x8GB), Trident Z, DDR4 3200MHz 153
Total: 734
Should be good right?
Beerman462
Member
Not a new PC, but my daughter's laptop screen got broke. So I was looking for replacements based on the Laptop Model and only found one on e-bay for $82. The Laptop cost $230 so I balked. I got the screen out of the laptop and holy shit was it easy. I just slipped my thumbnail into the plastic seam a split the two halves of the screen enclosure. There was a strip of tacky plastic at the bottom between the screen and the enclosure that I got loose with an ID card.
This is where I feel dumb. Since I could only find the one e-bay screen I was looking at screens for other HP laptops and comparing the build/connector shape. I was getting ready to count the connector pins, when I noticed a sizable sticker with a part number on the back of the screen....should have been my first step.
Anyway $30 for the screen and it gets here in two days with free prime shipping.
This is where I feel dumb. Since I could only find the one e-bay screen I was looking at screens for other HP laptops and comparing the build/connector shape. I was getting ready to count the connector pins, when I noticed a sizable sticker with a part number on the back of the screen....should have been my first step.
Anyway $30 for the screen and it gets here in two days with free prime shipping.
Just picked up the G533. Adjust equalizer and listened to some music on them. Played a round of Battlegrounds. Sound good to me! Think I mentioned it before, but Logitech's G software suite is pretty good and intuitive.
2/3 of the way cutting wires. Got G533+G900. Now I just need a wireless mechanical keyboard and I'm set.
Thanks for the suggestion!
Celcius
°Temp. member
Any plans for a video card? or do you already have one and you're just upgrading?
Otherwise looks good.
Muffin Awesome
Member
I have an i7 4770k unlocked running at a 4.2 overclock with 16gb ram on a Asus pro mb.
I have 250~ and my gtx760 2gb is getting pretty rough for 1080p gaming.
I want either an 8gb rx 480 or gtx 1060 6gb. Is this even possible in this price range for a good/reliable card?
I have 250~ and my gtx760 2gb is getting pretty rough for 1080p gaming.
I want either an 8gb rx 480 or gtx 1060 6gb. Is this even possible in this price range for a good/reliable card?
JonnyDBrit
Member
250 Dollars? Yes, handily. That is basically the exact price range of the 1060 6GB and 480 8GB models.
Bloodember
Member
You can easily get a 8gb rx 480 for $250.
ColdDeckEd
Member
You can find 8gb 480s for less. Id wait afew weeks until the Rx 500 series is released. The new 1060s with faster ram might be out by then too.
Muffin Awesome
Member
I had an Asus strix, and I have not followed anything for these new lines of cards, are both of these pretty capable for 1080p at high/ultra?
And any suggestions for either?
CreepingFear
Member
People like us should get badges or something for doing that. Like AA members.
I have 970 already with 1080p 144hz screen.
They are quite good, but I haven't heard alternatives at the same price.
Frankfurter
Member
Difficult choice. @Stock both have pretty much the same performance, overclocked the 1060 will do a little better. the 2GB extra VRAM might be a big advantage at some point for the RX480. 1060 uses less power (~120 vs. ~160W @stock). I'd go with the RX480 8GB if it's cheaper. Both at the same price? Throw a dice
Muffin Awesome
Member
Difficult choice. @Stock both have pretty much the same performance, overclocked the 1060 will do a little better. the 2GB extra VRAM might be a big advantage at some point for the RX480. 1060 uses less power (~120 vs. ~160W @stock). I'd go with the RX480 8GB if it's cheaper. Both at the same price? Throw a dice
How is this model? Worth the $250? I can price match at BBY as well for easier returns. Or am I wasting money buying for 1080p high/ultra with an OC i7 4770k?
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Support-Graphics-06G-P4-6163-KR/dp/B01LYN9KK6?th=1
Ordered the parts for a new PC this morning.
Maybe went a bit over board. I actually had planned to just upgrade my GTX 980, but my PSU broke a few month ago and damaged my mainboard. Hoping for all the parts to arrive before next week end.
- Intel Core i7 7700K 4x 4.20GHz So.1151 WOF Intel Core i7 7700K 4x 4.20GHz So.1151 WOF Menge: 1 Einzelpreis: 343,91*
- Asus ROG Strix Z270G Gaming Intel Z270 So.1151 Dual Channel DDR mATX Retail Menge: 1 Einzelpreis: 189,85*
- 16GB (2x 8192MB) G.Skill Trident Z RGB DDR4-3600 DIMM CL17-18-18-38 Dual Kit 16GB (2x 8192MB) G.Skill Trident Z RGB DDR4-3600 DIMM CL17-18-18-38 Dual Kit Menge: 1 Einzelpreis: 215,71*
- 500GB Samsung 960 Evo M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe 3.0 x4 32Gb/s 3D-NAND TLC Toggle (MZ-V6E500BW) 500GB Samsung 960 Evo M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe 3.0 x4 32Gb/s 3D-NAND TLC Toggle (MZ-V6E500BW) Menge: 1 Einzelpreis: 234,92*
- 11GB EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition Aktiv PCIe 3.0 x16 1xHDMI / 3xDisplayPort (Retail) 11GB EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition Aktiv PCIe 3.0 x16 1xHDMI / 3xDisplayPort (Retail) Menge: 1 Einzelpreis: 819,00*
- Noctua NH-U12S Tower Kühler Noctua NH-U12S Tower Kühler Menge: 1 Einzelpreis: 56,84*
- 850 Watt EVGA SuperNOVA G3 Modular 80+ Gold Menge: 1 Einzelpreis: 159,94*
- Phanteks Enthoo Luxe Tempered Glass mit Sichtfenster Big Tower ohne Netzteil schwarz Menge: 1 Einzelpreis: 169,84*
- 4000GB WD Blue WD40E31X 5.400U/min 64MB 3.5" (8.9cm) SATA 6Gb/s 4000GB WD Blue WD40E31X 5.400U/min 64MB 3.5" (8.9cm) SATA 6Gb/s Menge: 1 Einzelpreis: 177,12*
Maybe went a bit over board. I actually had planned to just upgrade my GTX 980, but my PSU broke a few month ago and damaged my mainboard. Hoping for all the parts to arrive before next week end.
ColdDeckEd
Member
Naw that cpu is fine for 1080p. I know they can be difficult to get a good oc but it's still a decent cpu. Are you sure you don't want to wait afew weeks until the Rx 580 and 1060 w/ faster memory are released?
That model you posted should be good, you can also check out nowinstock.net it'll give you a price list and stock updates to make looking for what you want alittle easier.
Muffin Awesome
Member
Unless those releasing will be at the 250$ mark, or do you think they would drop the price of the current 1060s?
ColdDeckEd
Member
I do think they will drop the price, or there will be some nice sales on 480s/1060s at the very least. But it doesn't hurt to wait when new models are coming out so soon.
Right, I have a potentially serious issue:
My new computer makes a strange, high frequency buzzing noise. It happens during games, but also occurs when I'm scrolling(?) and moving around webpages.
Now it sounds a lot like it's coming from my PSU. I did some quick CPU/GPU tests and temps seem normal, plus there's no strange behavior nor lag in games. The noise is also coming from the back/bottom of my case.
This would be a minor inconvenience if my computer didn't crash to a grey screen after an hour or so of gaming. Everything inside the case stops, the screen turns to grey and my PC hangs until I force a shut down.
Any ideas what this issue could be? If it is the PSU, what might be the problem? Or is it perhaps an unrelated driver issue, and there's just some coincidental loose screws? Windows and AMD are all up to date, so I'm starting to think it's a hardware issue...
Critically, can anyone suggest some comprehensive stress testing software I can use to eliminate certain components from the suspect list?
*EDIT* Specs:
Corsair RMX 550
Asus X370 PRIME PRO Mobo
Asus RX 480 GPU
Ryzen 1700 CPU
*EDIT* Here's some HWMonitor screens:
*EDIT 2* - Might be worth mentioning that despite the constant noise, the crash has only happened in Battlefield 4 so far. I've had two hour long games of DOTA and everything's been fine.
Can someone suggest a good reliable stress test I can run just in case it IS ONLY BF4 causing issues?
My new computer makes a strange, high frequency buzzing noise. It happens during games, but also occurs when I'm scrolling(?) and moving around webpages.
Now it sounds a lot like it's coming from my PSU. I did some quick CPU/GPU tests and temps seem normal, plus there's no strange behavior nor lag in games. The noise is also coming from the back/bottom of my case.
This would be a minor inconvenience if my computer didn't crash to a grey screen after an hour or so of gaming. Everything inside the case stops, the screen turns to grey and my PC hangs until I force a shut down.
Any ideas what this issue could be? If it is the PSU, what might be the problem? Or is it perhaps an unrelated driver issue, and there's just some coincidental loose screws? Windows and AMD are all up to date, so I'm starting to think it's a hardware issue...
Critically, can anyone suggest some comprehensive stress testing software I can use to eliminate certain components from the suspect list?
*EDIT* Specs:
Corsair RMX 550
Asus X370 PRIME PRO Mobo
Asus RX 480 GPU
Ryzen 1700 CPU
*EDIT* Here's some HWMonitor screens:
*EDIT 2* - Might be worth mentioning that despite the constant noise, the crash has only happened in Battlefield 4 so far. I've had two hour long games of DOTA and everything's been fine.
Can someone suggest a good reliable stress test I can run just in case it IS ONLY BF4 causing issues?
flamingotripod
Member
Hi gaf, I am finally building a new computer after 10 years and am pretty new to this so I could use some recommendations. I am mainly building this computer for video editing/medium intensive gaming (CS go, overwatch, cod) so I want a decently fast computer that is under $2,000 CAD. I have found the following parts on PC parts picker:
PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/NNMxCy
CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($379.98 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: *Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($99.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($282.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: *ADATA Premier 960GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($339.81 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: *Hitachi Deskstar NAS 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($189.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($543.98 @ NCIX)
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($91.00 @ shopRBC)
Total: $2017.24 CAD
What do you guys think about this? Is this a good build for video editing/gaming? Any recommendations for parts I could swap out? Any help is appreciated
PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/NNMxCy
CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($379.98 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: *Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($99.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($282.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: *ADATA Premier 960GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($339.81 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: *Hitachi Deskstar NAS 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($189.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($543.98 @ NCIX)
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($91.00 @ shopRBC)
Total: $2017.24 CAD
What do you guys think about this? Is this a good build for video editing/gaming? Any recommendations for parts I could swap out? Any help is appreciated
Sectorseven
Member
For video editing you might want to seriously consider a Ryzen 1700 build. If saving money is a concern, you could probably get away with a 480 or 1060 for your gaming needs.
Übermatik;233166239 said:Right, I have a potentially serious issue:
My new computer makes a strange, high frequency buzzing noise. It happens during games, but also occurs when I'm scrolling(?) and moving around webpages.
Now it sounds a lot like it's coming from my PSU. I did some quick CPU/GPU tests and temps seem normal, plus there's no strange behavior nor lag in games. The noise is also coming from the back/bottom of my case.
This would be a minor inconvenience if my computer didn't crash to a grey screen after an hour or so of gaming. Everything inside the case stops, the screen turns to grey and my PC hangs until I force a shut down.
Any ideas what this issue could be? If it is the PSU, what might be the problem? Or is it perhaps an unrelated driver issue, and there's just some coincidental loose screws? Windows and AMD are all up to date, so I'm starting to think it's a hardware issue...
Critically, can anyone suggest some comprehensive stress testing software I can use to eliminate certain components from the suspect list?
*EDIT* Specs:
Corsair RMX 550
Asus X370 PRIME PRO Mobo
Asus RX 480 GPU
Ryzen 1700 CPU
*EDIT* Here's some HWMonitor screens:
*EDIT 2* - Might be worth mentioning that despite the constant noise, the crash has only happened in Battlefield 4 so far. I've had two hour long games of DOTA and everything's been fine.
Can someone suggest a good reliable stress test I can run just in case it IS ONLY BF4 causing issues?
Noise sounds like coil whine when the CPU is changing through its frequency range, on Intel systems you can disable speed step to help, as you say it's quite obvious when scrolling. No need to worry about this.
You can try prime95 to stress the CPU.
Memtest for the ram (multiple instances needed to test most of the ram).
Unigene Heaven to test the GPU.
Realbench for a GPU and CPU test.
Thanks for this info.
The noise is more of a buzz/vibration than a whine, and is almost certainly coming from the PSU. Anything to be done about this with an AMD system?
Thanks for the recommendations, I'll test them out.
For what it's worth, here's HWM running alongside Battlefield 4 maxed. Anything look out of the ordinary?
Also what are the chances this is just a Battlefield 4/driver issue? The fact the entire PC crashes to grey and shuts down has me worried.
*EDIT* Ran Realbench for 15 mins, completed a few loops totally fine. Starting to think this is a software/driver issue with BF4, and that this PSU 'buzz' is just a separate inconvenience. Still might RMA it and see if my luck draws for a new unit.
Übermatik;233170061 said:Thanks for this info.
The noise is more of a buzz/vibration than a whine, and is almost certainly coming from the PSU. Anything to be done about this with an AMD system?
Thanks for the recommendations, I'll test them out.
For what it's worth, here's HWM running alongside Battlefield 4 maxed. Anything look out of the ordinary?
Also what are the chances this is just a Battlefield 4/driver issue? The fact the entire PC crashes to grey and shuts down has me worried.
*EDIT* Ran Realbench for 15 mins, completed a few loops totally fine. Starting to think this is a software/driver issue with BF4, and that this PSU 'buzz' is just a separate inconvenience. Still might RMA it and see if my luck draws for a new unit.
That buzz is probably just coil whine which you can't really do much about usually, but it's nothing to worry about.
Are you using stock settings? Otherwise revert to stock settings and see if the crashes still occur. If you messed with the bios settings: A vcore of 1.4V is quite high for ryzen on air cooling, even if its idle, so maybe change the LLC settings in your bios a bit to reduce vdroop. Also note that the cpu temperature readings for ryzen may be off so your cpu could actually be much hotter than HWM indicates. So maybe try setting a more aggressive fan profile and see if this helps.
I recently got a Asus crosshair 6 + 1700 and I had to turn of something called 'Sense MI Skew' in the bios (which was enabled by default) to get accurate temp readings (my cpu was idling at around 0~18C
).Muffin Awesome
Member
Is there a release day for the upgraded 1060s?
That buzz is probably just coil whine which you can't really do much about usually, but it's nothing to worry about.
Are you using stock settings? Otherwise revert to stock settings and see if the crashes still occur. If you messed with the bios settings: A vcore of 1.4V is quite high for ryzen on air cooling, even if its idle, so maybe change the LLC settings in your bios a bit to reduce vdroop. Also note that the cpu temperature readings for ryzen may be off so your cpu could actually be much hotter than HWM indicates. So maybe try setting a more aggressive fan profile and see if this helps.
I recently got a Asus crosshair 6 + 1700 and I had to turn of something called 'Sense MI Skew' in the bios (which was enabled by default) to get accurate temp readings (my cpu was idling at around 0~18C
I was just about to tell you that all I did was update to the latest BIOS (which is true), but I just noticed ASUS released a new update yesterday that says it's made changes to:
1.Improve system stability.
2.Enhance memory compatibility
3.Improve CPU temperature monitor function
Should I flash my BIOS first and then come back with the numbers?
Otherwise I haven't touched/tweaked anything.
Unless the temp readings are wrong, I'm starting to believe it's my PSU, as all the temperatures for my GPU, CPU and Mobo are normal...
GinoFelino
Member
Noob question:
I have my PC hooked up to my TV and a monitor.
Does it matter performance-wise what display option I choose to game on either? Meaning using the 'duplicate' option or just the 'display on 1/2' options?
Does that impact performance in any way?
Thanks in advance
I have my PC hooked up to my TV and a monitor.
Does it matter performance-wise what display option I choose to game on either? Meaning using the 'duplicate' option or just the 'display on 1/2' options?
Does that impact performance in any way?
Thanks in advance
ColdDeckEd
Member
Mid April probably waiting for the Rx 500 series to release on the 18th
Übermatik;233178055 said:
Ryzen mobos still have plenty of quirks that need to be adressed so I'd definitely try the BIOS update and see if that helps. Otherwise just try to set the cpu fan to max and play BF4: if that helps, your problem is probably temperature related.
As for the PSU: I suppose it could be that, but you'd probably have to test it on another system (that you know for sure is working otherwise) to be sure.
NJDEN
Member
Something just dawned on me and I figured this would be a good place to ask...
Did anyone who filed a claim over the GTX 970 debacle get their money (think it supposed to be $30 per card)?
I haven't seen or heard anything about that in forever and I bought two cards.. like, 3 years ago.
Did anyone who filed a claim over the GTX 970 debacle get their money (think it supposed to be $30 per card)?
I haven't seen or heard anything about that in forever and I bought two cards.. like, 3 years ago.
Just did a memory test using Windows' diagnostic tool - came back clean, so that narrows it down at least.
I'll flash the BIOS now, play BF4 and see if it crashes. If it does, I'll try altering the fan speed.
Thanks for your help so far, hopefully can get to the bottom of this! Sort of hoping it's the PSU, because although a pain to have to replace it, it would kill two bird with one stone - this noise is annoying!
TatteredHat
Member
Bloody hell I didn't realise ITX motherboards were so expensive if you're looking for Z270 chipsets.
Okay, so I updated the BIOS.
ASUS now reads CPU idle temp at around 43°C, VDDCR CPU Voltage at 1.326 V and a motherboard temp of 33°C.
My fan also went to 100% briefly when Windows loaded, which was odd.
I'll run BF4 again tomorrow and see what happens. If it still crashes with temps this normal, I should assume it's the PSU yes?
It might also be worth mentioning that, because of Ryzen's current quirks, my DDR4 only runs at 2133MHz. This shouldn't be causing a crash though, right?
ASUS now reads CPU idle temp at around 43°C, VDDCR CPU Voltage at 1.326 V and a motherboard temp of 33°C.
My fan also went to 100% briefly when Windows loaded, which was odd.
I'll run BF4 again tomorrow and see what happens. If it still crashes with temps this normal, I should assume it's the PSU yes?
It might also be worth mentioning that, because of Ryzen's current quirks, my DDR4 only runs at 2133MHz. This shouldn't be causing a crash though, right?
TC McQueen
Member
No, because they still haven't figured out how they're handling payment, AFAIK.
digitalrelic
Banned
Anyone have input on a fair asking price for the following?
I7 4790k CPU
NZXT Kraken X61 Water Cooling
16GB RAM
EVGA GTX 980 Ti w/ ACX 2.0 Cooling
1TB Samsung Evo 840 SSD
NZXT S340 Case w/ window
Noctua Case fans
Windows 10 Home
Kept in meticulous condition. Looks like this:
I7 4790k CPU
NZXT Kraken X61 Water Cooling
16GB RAM
EVGA GTX 980 Ti w/ ACX 2.0 Cooling
1TB Samsung Evo 840 SSD
NZXT S340 Case w/ window
Noctua Case fans
Windows 10 Home
Kept in meticulous condition. Looks like this:
PlayALLtheGames
Banned
I think I'm done buying shit for this build, almost a month after I started. Finally!
...I think.
Will post final list and prices tomorrow once I confirm.
Today dicked around with combinations for my res/pump combo (MMRS and EK D5 PWM). Used a free power cable in current setup to power CCFL attachment just to check it out. Monsoon is awesome. Anyone thinking of going water should strongly consider custom route, even if it's not Monsoon. Some variations I tried below. I'm leaning towards the black-chrome rods + black pump cover myself.
...I think.
Will post final list and prices tomorrow once I confirm.
Today dicked around with combinations for my res/pump combo (MMRS and EK D5 PWM). Used a free power cable in current setup to power CCFL attachment just to check it out. Monsoon is awesome. Anyone thinking of going water should strongly consider custom route, even if it's not Monsoon. Some variations I tried below. I'm leaning towards the black-chrome rods + black pump cover myself.
Übermatik;233183459 said:
Running memory at lower speeds shouldn't cause problems like this no, you can run memtest for a couple of hours if you want to be 100% sure it's not memory related.
But if your system only crashes under heavy combined (cpu + gpu) loads then it might be the PSU, and honestly if the coil whine is too annoying I would just return it anyway.
Whatever your budget is, you'll get better value building than buying prebuilt. Are you in the DR though? Importing these things is tricky because of ITBIS charges :/
Yeah sounds like a good idea, honestly. The 'whine' (again, actually a buzz) is pretty distracting, especially under load.
Any other ways I can test my CPU+GPU independently aside from Realbench and examining temps in game? Done both, respectively, and don't see any problems, but still want to be 100% sure.
If it is my PSU, any idea on what might be happening? One of the rails not performing correctly? I find it strange that things go pear-shaped over time.
Thanks for all your help Mad Max! I'll see if I can get the PSU returned.
RamaTheVoice
Member
That's a beautiful machine dude. Why in the world would you want to sell it (unless it's to build a new one of course ^^)?
Übermatik;233207641 said:
OCCT has a built in PSU stress test: http://www.ocbase.com/index.php/download But have you experienced any problems since updating the BIOS?
Also it's hard to say why your PSU would not work. Could be that some component (maybe just a capacitor) is faulty and because of that (one of) the output rails drops under load, especially when the PSU gets hot.
@PlayALLtheGames
Nice stuff, liking the black chrome cover.
I was gonna order a new AM4 block myself (Cuplex kryos NEXT) since I don't like how my EK supremacy looks with the AMD mounting plate, but yesterday my D5 suddenly crapped out after 4 years of running continously, so I had to spend €75 on a new D5 instead. -_-