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"I Need a New PC!" 2017 The Ryzing of Kaby Lake and NVMwhee!
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How about this monitor? it seems pretty good for the price.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16824236313
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16824236313
Fachasaurus
Member
I hope they hit back hard this time. Intel has been coasting for too long! Thank you AMD!
But foreal, the 8700K will probably be my next CPU if it is a good step up!
Do we know for sure yet whether Z270 boards will be able to handle the 8700k?
I know that Asrock's tweet (since deleted, I've heard) led people to think that they wouldn't, but do we have confirmation either way at this point?
Not yet, I don't think so. But the announcement should be a week from now, so not too long of a wait left!
Intel just announced Icelake CPU which is the next architectural step plus new 10nm+ process.
It will likely come with with PCI-e 4.0, new Intel 4-core Audio standard, and USB gen 2 (2x bandwidth).
I have two 24 inch monitors with different resolution, when I move the mouse between them it doesn't line up properly at the same relative place and there's also this annoying wall where the mouse gets stuck. Anyone know how to fix this? I tried google but found nothing...
Otherwise my new build is working perfectly so thanks to everyone who helped with suggestions.
Otherwise my new build is working perfectly so thanks to everyone who helped with suggestions.
Flying Toaster
Member
That's fine.
If you live in the USA I found the Zotac 1060 Amp 6GB card at newegg for 299, it's the one I ordered tonight after hunting.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...4500403&cm_re=gtx_1060-_-14-500-403-_-Product
I've had a 1070 Zotac Amp in my home theater pc which is running well. Crazy that the Zotac 1070 amp costs more now than when I bought it at 1070 launch. If you can find one.
I've finally ordered parts for my first PC build. I've never built one before but I've wanted to for a long time. I've been bad about putting it off though, mainly because I kept second guessing myself on the parts and was nervous to build it. I've been watching a lot of build videos though and it doesn't seem so bad. I've also been liking what I've seen from Ryzen, so when I saw it on sale earlier today, I decided to just go for it. This is what I ended up going with. This was basically my budget, so hopefully for the price I ended up with good parts. I do already have harddrive that I'll be adding to this build as well.
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/NightOnyx/saved/#view=yr3zyc
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/NightOnyx/saved/#view=yr3zyc
boredandlazy
Member
Is there any discernible difference in installing a 1080ti in the PCIe 8x 3.0 slot instead of the 16x 3.0 slot?
It would just look better in my case.
It would just look better in my case.
I got a 1060 Strix a couple of days ago from Microcenter. They don't even let you do store pickup ahead of time. You have to actually go into the store and get it.
Is there any discernible difference in installing a 1080ti in the PCIe 8x 3.0 slot instead of the 16x 3.0 slot?
It would just look better in my case.
~1%
http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2488-pci-e-3-x8-vs-x16-performance-impact-on-gpus
boredandlazy
Member
Thanks, I saw that article before but I was hoping to see if anyone here had any personal experience with it.
Why not just use riser?Thanks, I saw that article before but I was hoping to see if anyone here had any personal experience with it.
PlayALLtheGames
Banned
1600 and 1080 will do you well. Good luck building.
Thanks a lot! I'm definitely excited about it. It seems like everything is being shipped out tonight and tomorrow, so I should have everything by this weekend to build it.
Hello PC Gaf, I've never built my own PC before. I bought a pre built Costco pc, upgraded it, and it's lasted me 5 or 6 years.
However, I can't run pubg very well and my computer will randomly restart when playing. Which I'm attributing to overheating (Ran a stress test getting 90+ Celsius on cpu and 80+on gpu). I didn't take care of it very well and that's my own fault for being irresponsible.
I'm looking to build my own PC from scratch and start fresh.
Your Current Specs: i7-2600 / 12gbs of ram ddr3/ Ga-h67ma-usb3-b3 gigabyte technologies/ Nvidia 660ti / Corsair 850tx (don't ask, I was young and dumb) / mid sized 7x14x17.25 very rough / 2tb hdd 7500 rpm
Budget: 1000ish + US
Main Use: Rate 1-5. 5 being Highest: Light Gaming: 5, Gaming: 5, Emulation (PS2/Wii/Wii U): 2, Video Editing: 3, Streaming games in HD: 3, 3D/Model work (and what program): 1, General Usage (Word, Web, 1080p playback): 5.
Monitor Resolution: What resolution will you be playing your games at? 1080p. Are you going to upgrade later? Yes. Are you buying a new monitor? Later.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: PUBG,Destiny 2 maybe
Is 30FPS acceptable? No. 60? Yes. 144? Yes, when I get a new monitor.
How important is PhysX / SuperSampling / CUDA / GSYNC / FREESYNC to you? No idea.
Looking to reuse any parts?: Corsair 850tx assuming its.not causing the restarts, I'll be being my 2tb HDD over but I want an SSD
When will you build?: coming months
Do you have a deadline? Not really.
How long can you wait? I was planning on putting money away each paycheck rather than splurging but 3 restarts in 20 minutes is frustrating. Have to replug in my keyboard and headset each time.
Will you be overclocking?: Maybe.
I got some advice from friends and they put together this for me: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dKndRG
I'm looking for more input and advice to make sure I get the best bang for my buck. I'm very ignorant about Pcs and would love to garner some feedback and advice.
I typed this up late and on mobile so hopefully it turns out okay. I'll check back in the morning and at my lunch break tomorrow.
However, I can't run pubg very well and my computer will randomly restart when playing. Which I'm attributing to overheating (Ran a stress test getting 90+ Celsius on cpu and 80+on gpu). I didn't take care of it very well and that's my own fault for being irresponsible.
I'm looking to build my own PC from scratch and start fresh.
Your Current Specs: i7-2600 / 12gbs of ram ddr3/ Ga-h67ma-usb3-b3 gigabyte technologies/ Nvidia 660ti / Corsair 850tx (don't ask, I was young and dumb) / mid sized 7x14x17.25 very rough / 2tb hdd 7500 rpm
Budget: 1000ish + US
Main Use: Rate 1-5. 5 being Highest: Light Gaming: 5, Gaming: 5, Emulation (PS2/Wii/Wii U): 2, Video Editing: 3, Streaming games in HD: 3, 3D/Model work (and what program): 1, General Usage (Word, Web, 1080p playback): 5.
Monitor Resolution: What resolution will you be playing your games at? 1080p. Are you going to upgrade later? Yes. Are you buying a new monitor? Later.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: PUBG,Destiny 2 maybe
Is 30FPS acceptable? No. 60? Yes. 144? Yes, when I get a new monitor.
How important is PhysX / SuperSampling / CUDA / GSYNC / FREESYNC to you? No idea.
Looking to reuse any parts?: Corsair 850tx assuming its.not causing the restarts, I'll be being my 2tb HDD over but I want an SSD
When will you build?: coming months
Do you have a deadline? Not really.
How long can you wait? I was planning on putting money away each paycheck rather than splurging but 3 restarts in 20 minutes is frustrating. Have to replug in my keyboard and headset each time.
Will you be overclocking?: Maybe.
I got some advice from friends and they put together this for me: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dKndRG
I'm looking for more input and advice to make sure I get the best bang for my buck. I'm very ignorant about Pcs and would love to garner some feedback and advice.
I typed this up late and on mobile so hopefully it turns out okay. I'll check back in the morning and at my lunch break tomorrow.
Bloodember
Member
Here, I saved you some money. How old is your PSU? If it's older than 3 years old, replace it. The CPU comes with a good cooler, unless you really want an AIO.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($289.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI - A320M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($66.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($132.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($469.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($67.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1117.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-15 02:33 EDT-0400
ISee
Member
The PC build your friends put together is absolutely fine for 1080p/144 with gsync (in the future), just some notes.
The 7700k is currently the best option for high fps gaming, but intels coffee lake line up is supposed to be available later this year. It might be worth waiting for it, especially if you want a more "futureproof" CPU. Also, if you don't plan to play above 60fps amds ryzen 5 1600 is a great offering and cheaper than the 7700k (and probably still good enough for 75-90 fps, which will most probably be the limit a 1070 is able to hit at 1080p).
If you want to spend money on a good thermal compound to get extra 1-2° of cooling power get the thermal grizzly kryonaut and not the arctic silver.
The MSI Z270-a is a very good mb, but it only runs the Realtek ALC892 sound codec (it's big fllow imo). Which is okay if you plan to use an USB headset or if you plan to use audio over hdmi, but the asus z270-a uses the Realtek® ALC S1220A (+ better sound channel build quality). The difference is like day 'n night if you use a headset with normal jacks (preferable over usb connection) on the asus a over the msi a. It also offers DTS Connect and DTS Headphone:X, which further improves the sound quality and emulates 3D audio on stereo headset very good. I'd even say the audio quality on the asus z270 a is better than on the xfi audio soundcard from creative.
If you really plan to go for 144 Hz, think about getting a GTX 1080.
The Corsair - H100i v2 is a good performer, but it is loud af. Something most people don't mention when recommending it. I had one for some time and gladly went back to dual air tower coolers.
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Bloodember
Member
You'll need a cooler for that one.
Phatosaurus
Member
Just a note on the R5 1600, it's quite capable of hitting 144FPS and up when paired with a GTX 1080.
That's my set up. I get really good frames in R6 Siege. About 150-160 average. Lowest dips to 100FPS and that's only on some (badly optimised) maps.
Other games, like Superhot (obviously not a demanding game) stays completely locked at 144FPS.
Obviously on average the i7 7700K will out perform it, but it depends on how much value you put on the gap in performance.
I looked at it in the sense that there was a 10-20 gap in frames and £110 difference in just the CPU. The AM4 platform will be supported for 4 more years, so I can definitely upgrade my CPU down the line to keep up for 144hz gaming if necessary, whereas with the 7700K, I was sure the socket wouldn't last that long, meaning new motherboard and CPU to upgrade that kinda set up in the future.
nightmare-slain
Gold Member
would upgrading from my 6700K (4.5ghz) to a 8700K be a bad idea if i'm not planning on going beyond 60hz? i'm at 1080/1440p 60hz right now and will hopefully go up to 2160p. not too interested in 144hz as 60 is enough for me.
Uninstall the drivers first from settings
shutdown
insert new card
boot
windows will install some signed drivers by it self
install newer drivers and check Clean install
Jeff Stephen
Member
Most likely overkill but I prefer being thorough.
http://www.wagnardsoft.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=846
As for Windows, never install driver software from Windows update under device installation settings.
Phatosaurus
Member
How come?
In the past it often led to 'black screen' on boot/restart caused by Windows trying to update a driver which had already been updated with a different version.
The solution was to boot into safe mode, uninstall the drivers entirely and then reinstall them 'fresh'. I've not had this issue in a long time though so YMMV.
Not really, only RMA I guess.
If it's just for gaming then I wouldn't bother, the gains would be almost non-existent for you based on previous evidence. If you're going for 4K down the line, GPU power will be more important for you, since the GPU becomes the bottleneck at those high resolutions.
For sure, but what a great case.
Same here. I bought mine during the period where if I were in the USA I would have gotten Destiny 2 for free ;-;
RumblingRosco
Member
All I want is a 1TB SSD for about $200. Is that too much to ask!? ;_;
http://www.coolermaster.com/case/mid-tower/masterbox-lite-5-rgb/
So where the fuck does somebody gotta go to buy one of these cases?
I don't see it for order ANYWHERE. Not even on the official site. But it's listed as a product.
http://www.coolermaster.com/product/Lines/mid-tower/
So where the fuck does somebody gotta go to buy one of these cases?
I don't see it for order ANYWHERE. Not even on the official site. But it's listed as a product.
http://www.coolermaster.com/product/Lines/mid-tower/
jim2point0
Banned
In general is possible on your Chinese new gaming PC.
Try throwing Quantum Break at it
Has it been released?
RumblingRosco
Member
That's not the RGB one.
EDIT: I mean, it is essentially the same case, just missing the fans, I think.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PAFJJRA/?tag=neogaf0e-20
We're getting (back) there. It might be a while before you see US$0.20/GB but there's a few options back in the US$0.26 range. The drive I linked to is 30% more expensive than your target but PCPP price history shows it was about US$200 last summer.
Basically no, it's not too much to ask - it's just hard to tell whether we are weeks or months or years from prices going down to where we want them.
Yeah, the fans are the Mastercase RGB ones that around 20-24 a piece with a controller. Waiting for 9/22 for the HAF with the 200mm ones.
My Sensei Raw scroll wheel is fucked up, scrolls up 20% of the time when scrolling down
Granted, it is several years old at this point, but I haven't put too much use into it. Has Steelseries improved their build quality or should I jump ship to another brand? Don't need much from a mouse, just 5 button + wired basically...
Granted, it is several years old at this point, but I haven't put too much use into it. Has Steelseries improved their build quality or should I jump ship to another brand? Don't need much from a mouse, just 5 button + wired basically...
Yo! So I've finally decided to get into PC Gaming. Been a console/handheld guy all my life. Customizability, back/future compat, free online gaming has won me over. Also, more Japanese support nowadays (excited that DB Fighterz and MH World are coming to PC! Now Sega, port those Atlus games) is good to see.
General usage and gaming will be the primary purposes. Targeting 1080p 60 fps for the most part, but on an ultrawide monitor. So ideally, 2560x1080 is the resolution I'd like, at 60fps.
Here are the parts I've seeked out! Oh, I live in Ireland and it seems like Amazon UK is the safest and cheapest place to get parts. I've not shopped around much, but for such expense I would like to buy from a reliable source, and Amazon UK have not failed me over the past few years.
Here's the monitor. Cheapest one!
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4 3000 MHz
Ryzen 5 1600 CPU
MSI x370 Mobo
Zotac NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6 GB Mini GDDR5. Went for the 6gb for 'future-proofing'. However, I went with the x370 board for that multi GPU support that DirectX12 is getting. I saw in a tech deals video (13:50) that it doesn't matter what GPUs you have either, so it seems like a good safety net to invest in in case games start to struggle to get 60 fps on the 1060? It would be nice to just be able to add another card, rather than replacing it. Perhaps 1080s will be cheapre in a few years and the two will make a great combo. If I'm incorrect in my understanding of this, then I may downgrade to a b350 board, but that audio boost feature is nice too on the x370.
These are the speakers, haha. Just a standard wireless mouse and keyboard combo. Going wireless as being able to easily move them around is kind of essential as I'd shift them over to draw a pen & paper design for my studies & work (UX Design). Bonus that both the keyboard and the mouse are quiet, so I can work away at night. Hopefully wireless isn't terrible for gaming though? I'm not competitive by any means, more of a have fun but play to win guy.
Of course, these aren't all the parts! I have a 3tb Toshiba P300 hard drive 7200rpm which will do for now and a friend of mine has some spare pc parts, so I'm going to see if he's got an ATX case lying around and maybe even a power supply. One question though: How much wattage should I go for? 600W? 550W?
Another thing, I'm not in a rush to build this PC, but I'm sick of working on my laptop and would love to start working away on that lovely ultrawide sooner rather than later. Aiming for within the next month to build it!
Thanks! And wish me luck!
P.S. I'm away from home atm, so I may slow to reply.
General usage and gaming will be the primary purposes. Targeting 1080p 60 fps for the most part, but on an ultrawide monitor. So ideally, 2560x1080 is the resolution I'd like, at 60fps.
Here are the parts I've seeked out! Oh, I live in Ireland and it seems like Amazon UK is the safest and cheapest place to get parts. I've not shopped around much, but for such expense I would like to buy from a reliable source, and Amazon UK have not failed me over the past few years.
Here's the monitor. Cheapest one!
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4 3000 MHz
Ryzen 5 1600 CPU
MSI x370 Mobo
Zotac NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6 GB Mini GDDR5. Went for the 6gb for 'future-proofing'. However, I went with the x370 board for that multi GPU support that DirectX12 is getting. I saw in a tech deals video (13:50) that it doesn't matter what GPUs you have either, so it seems like a good safety net to invest in in case games start to struggle to get 60 fps on the 1060? It would be nice to just be able to add another card, rather than replacing it. Perhaps 1080s will be cheapre in a few years and the two will make a great combo
. If I'm incorrect in my understanding of this, then I may downgrade to a b350 board, but that audio boost feature is nice too on the x370.These are the speakers, haha. Just a standard wireless mouse and keyboard combo. Going wireless as being able to easily move them around is kind of essential as I'd shift them over to draw a pen & paper design for my studies & work (UX Design). Bonus that both the keyboard and the mouse are quiet, so I can work away at night. Hopefully wireless isn't terrible for gaming though? I'm not competitive by any means, more of a have fun but play to win guy.
Of course, these aren't all the parts! I have a 3tb Toshiba P300 hard drive 7200rpm which will do for now and a friend of mine has some spare pc parts, so I'm going to see if he's got an ATX case lying around and maybe even a power supply. One question though: How much wattage should I go for? 600W? 550W?
Another thing, I'm not in a rush to build this PC, but I'm sick of working on my laptop and would love to start working away on that lovely ultrawide sooner rather than later. Aiming for within the next month to build it!
Thanks! And wish me luck!
P.S. I'm away from home atm, so I may slow to reply.