PlayALLtheGames
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Yeah the Calyos or whatever? I don't know. Fucking 40lbs of metal? Lol. Not the sexiest thing either. Definitely cool as a piece of technology though.
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"I Need a New PC!" 2017 The Ryzing of Kaby Lake and NVMwhee!
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Yeah the Calyos or whatever? I don't know. Fucking 40lbs of metal? Lol. Not the sexiest thing either. Definitely cool as a piece of technology though.
Was contemplating picking up a 1070 to upgrade my 770 and get some more mileage out of my 3570k until the fall and then maybe go with Coffee Lake or Ryzen, but that has gone to shit because of the miners. 1070 prices are crazy right now - you can pick up a 1080 for right around the same price as some of the 1070 cards at Microcenter right now. Not going to pay those crazy prices, so I will wait until they come down some. The wait sucks though - I do love a new build.
hardcastlemccormick
Banned
The special circumstance is that I've already got an LGA 1151 Z270 mobo
That's a great reason to buy a quad core then. Though maybe you'll get lucky and Intel will support LGA 1151 with Coffee Lake while bumping up the core count. Win win all around, if that happens.
It's an EVGA G2 that has really solid reviews everywhere for a $120 (cdn) gold+ 650W unit. I looked at some Corsair ones etc but they all cost a fair amount more and frankly I'm already annoyed I'm having to spend more money on this money-pit of a PC (first the fans I had died so I needed new ones, then the HDD starts clicking so I needed a new one, now the power supply is too old and doesn't have the connections for my new RX580, which was already $100 more than I had wanted to spend on a GPU and the Ryzen 1600 was an extra $50 on top of the 1500x but more future proof then the rebate for my motherboard is borked because I waited a day too long to start the process. Just a mess all around haha)
Everywhere locally is sold out of anything decent in that range so online it is but shipping times etc no one-day prime so I just gotta wait it out. Lame.
AtlantiC_CodeX
Neo Member
What's the difference between a gaming keyboard and a mechanical one?
Also would the Logitech MX master be good for gaming?
Also would the Logitech MX master be good for gaming?
Wag
Member
http://www.ebay.com/itm/382034122947
Newegg is selling the ASUS GeForce GTX 1080 Ti on ebay for $639. Yes, I know it's a non-reference blower style fan, but it's cheap. You won't get a copy of Destiny 2 with it either, but there will be cheap enough keys from the Nvidia promo on eBay soon enough.
My case runs pretty hot so I wanted a blower style fan anyways. Would rather had reference but at this price it's hard to complain.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/291981538610
They're also selling the 960 Evo M.2 500GB for $200.
Newegg is selling the ASUS GeForce GTX 1080 Ti on ebay for $639. Yes, I know it's a non-reference blower style fan, but it's cheap. You won't get a copy of Destiny 2 with it either, but there will be cheap enough keys from the Nvidia promo on eBay soon enough.
My case runs pretty hot so I wanted a blower style fan anyways. Would rather had reference but at this price it's hard to complain.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/291981538610
They're also selling the 960 Evo M.2 500GB for $200.
Non-mechanical gaming keyboards and generic keyboards tend to use rubberdome switches which can feel mushy.
Mechanical keyboards normally feel very crisp to type on.
Hey guys,
I'm a complete newbie at this stuff and have no idea what I'm doing, but what does everyone think of this build?
https://pcbuildsonabudget.com/best-gaming-pc-build-for-under-1000-dollars/comment-page-18#comments
I strictly want to game. Should I go with this, or should I go with the $1,285 build listed in the OP?
I'm a complete newbie at this stuff and have no idea what I'm doing, but what does everyone think of this build?
https://pcbuildsonabudget.com/best-gaming-pc-build-for-under-1000-dollars/comment-page-18#comments
I strictly want to game. Should I go with this, or should I go with the $1,285 build listed in the OP?
What kind of performance are you looking to get? Have specific games in mind?
I assume you mean frame rate and the settings the games can be played at?
Something that can play Witcher 3 or the upcoming Battlefront 2 somewhere between 30-60FPS. Not necessarily at ultra settings but what looks good.
I was also considering just buying a prebuilt one off of Cyberpowerpc, so if anyone has any experience with computers from there, I'd appreciate some input. I havent found anytjing specifically yet though.
If you plan on playing AAA or anything like that in the next few years get 16 GB of RAM
Pretty tempting, but is that all I would need for stable 4K with my current specs?
I'm wondering what I could realistically run at 4K plus 60 fps with that. A few people mentioned waiting it out, as certain events/announcements may result in cheaper PC components.
Also, if someone could look at my taskbar links and let me know if anything's screwy, I'd appreciate that.
I wouldn't buy a prebuilt from iBuypower or CyberpowerPC, tbh. They will typically use decent parts for GPU and (obviously) CPU, but will cheap out on power supply, cooling, and RAM. They also tend to favor tacky/terrible cases.
If you customize the order you can end up with a decent system, but will spend a fair amount on it. I did that with iBuypower (which most think is part of the same company) ~8 years ago and the system is still running well. A friend customized a CyberPowerPC and has been happy with it. I thought about doing it again this time, but it was always a bit more than I wanted to spend, so instead I bought my parts and found someone locally that would make the build. If you go through and call local PC repair places you should be able to find someone that will make a build for 100 or less.
I got very lucky and found someone that charged only $40 (I ended up leaving a tip as I was so impressed) to build the system and show me how it was done. Thanks to that experience I now feel much more confident and comfortable and may just make my own next time.
I think by going this route I ended up with better parts and saved about $150 (8% of the total cost) compared with going the CyberPowerPC route.
JonnyDBrit
Member
Here's task manager:
If something's off from those readings, feel free to let me know.
And here's just the top part of my control panel:
As you can see, it's showing off games I've installed more than a few years ago, and it seems to do this every day.
Well, based on the other pictures you posted, it doesn't seem like you've got any issues in overutilisation. Firefox is eating up RAM, sure, but simply turning that off while you play should resolve any particular issue from that.
As to the install dates issue, it's apparently something that can get screwed up by Windows updates - so the PC detects games for the 'first time' after an update, and pegs that as when they're installed in the registry. Certainly no indication they're being installed in the background and taking up resources.
Sorry for the late reply, but just really want a smoother framerate in PUBG.
RumblingRosco
Member
I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the differences in DDR4 sticks. For example, I understand that in general 3200 MHz is better than 3000 MHz, assuming all other factors are identical... but what about voltage? Timings? etc? Is there a good guide that's up to date for DDR4 which explains the difference in memory sticks in detail that someone could point me towards?
jediyoshi
Member
If PUBG isn't working out for you on a gtx 970, you're definitely running into a CPU bottleneck.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VxYmZ8
The CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler may require a separately available mounting adapter to fit the MSI - B350 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard.
Anyone have experince with the Cryorig and know if I need additional mounting? Is there a comparable cooler that would not require one?
The CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler may require a separately available mounting adapter to fit the MSI - B350 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard.
Anyone have experince with the Cryorig and know if I need additional mounting? Is there a comparable cooler that would not require one?
JonnyDBrit
Member
Übermatik;240845485 said:
Scan have the EVGA GTX 1070 with an iCX cooler on sale for under £400 (plus postage, so £406 total) right now. That thing usually goes for £450 on other sites.
Noticed the exact same thing, Amazon too. I've read these cards get extremely hot, though? Especially the back plate. Is this ICX variant a fix on this issue at all? Or is it just the same old tech.
*EDIT* Yeah, it appears they went from ACX to ICX. Wonder if this solves the issues. Will check it out, thanks!
Basically you want to balance cost (the real world performance gain from faster RAM tends to be very small compared to putting more money in a CPU or GPU), MHz and timing (with timing lower numbers are better), and if it matters to you aesthetics.
Here is a site that should help.
http://blog.logicalincrements.com/2016/03/ultimate-guide-computer-ram/
A few others:
http://www.pcgamer.com/the-best-ddr4-ram/
http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/memory-performance-speed-latency
JonnyDBrit
Member
Übermatik;240847681 said:
The iCX model is basically built with temperature control in mind. Like, there's sensors inside the card to tell you the temperature of individual parts - plus it's got little towers to try and increase the rate of radiation out from the card. So I believe it did come out cooler than the ACX cards.
Despite the complaints?
Good to know, thank-you.
My decision really rests between the EVGA card and the MSI Armour Card: https://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi...hics-card-1920-core-1556mhz-gpu-1746mhz-boost
Unless I'm missing another option...
Hi guys. Tomorrow might finally be the day for my pc. But delivery has some problems lately, so no idea.
Some time ago, there was a link to a website that helps you create something like a batch installer - you could check the software you want to install all at once, without googling etc. Does anyone happen to know which one I mean?
Some time ago, there was a link to a website that helps you create something like a batch installer - you could check the software you want to install all at once, without googling etc. Does anyone happen to know which one I mean?
RumblingRosco
Member
Thanks. I'm definitely budget-conscious right now, so trying to get a Ryzen 1700 + non-barebones mobo + 16 GB of RAM + mATX case could easily run me $600+ if I'm not careful. Trying to decide if spending $30 more on better RAM is worth it at this point.
Ninite.
No problem. I'd say that unless the RAM would be the real weak link in the system then the $30 would be better spent on a better mobo/case or pocketed for a better GPU or SSD down the road.
RumblingRosco
Member
It seems 3200 MHz vs 3000 MHz DDR4 for Ryzen 1700 isn't really a noticeable/major difference. With only maybe a few FPS drop, I can safely go for the 3000 MHz and save $20, or maybe even down to 2800 and save another $10 on top of that. Would definitely help out with getting a better case.
JonnyDBrit
Member
Well, my Dad's got one out in the cabin based on previous parts he's used from differing machines. Think it's got like a Q6600 CPU and a GTX 670 as the graphics card. He passed it to me and then I upgraded from it last year.
Just wondering if the habit exists, or...?
any chance anyone here has gone from a Steelseries Rival 300 to a Zowie EC1A/EC2A?
I mainly use my mouse for shooters and I'm thinking about buying a Zowie (currently have the Rival) but I'm not sure if it's worth it. Wanted someone with experience with these two mice to chime in. Also, did the weight of the Zowie make much of a difference to you, since it's lighter, or is the difference negligible? thanks.
I mainly use my mouse for shooters and I'm thinking about buying a Zowie (currently have the Rival) but I'm not sure if it's worth it. Wanted someone with experience with these two mice to chime in. Also, did the weight of the Zowie make much of a difference to you, since it's lighter, or is the difference negligible? thanks.
Bananajama
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Might see some pressure eased on GPU Prices & Demand
JonnyDBrit
Member
Übermatik;240854659 said:
At this stage it might be worth trying Gumtree, depending on where you are, and hope for someone selling at an honest price.
Selling what? A 580?
JonnyDBrit
Member
Übermatik;240856375 said:
Yeah. Though looking at it myself... the one possibly good option is in Hampshire, right now. The others are almost double the price, or are ads almost certainly from miners, asking for AMD cards.
Edit: Assuming no-one has snatched it up already either.
opticalmace
Member
The whole divide kinda sucks (gsync vs freesync). I jumped on the gsync bandwagon a couple years ago. No doubt you end up paying more with an Nvidia setup than AMD but I've found Nvidia to be more consistent in releasing new products than AMD (for instance, we're still waiting for Vega like a year-ish after Pascal launched, or something like that?).Übermatik;240854659 said:
AudioEppa
Member
In my mind at the time I was fishing for somebody's old PC for free...yeah I know
After I posted it I didn't feel right about it. Honestly didn't think anyone would reply.
My PC
Dell XPS 420 (almost 10 years)
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
3gb of ram
GeForce 8600 GT
I'm surprised she's still alive lol
Haven't gone from a Rival, but if you like the ergo shaped mice, the EC series is one of the best you can get.
It's going to be a hell of a lot lighter 97/93g vs 130, and smaller in size. If you like the size of the rival, the EC1 is just a tad smaller in width/height.
I own multiple of the EC2, just because it's my favorite mouse.
JonnyDBrit
Member
Ah, so wouldn't be much of an upgrade on the CPU front. I'd have to double check what it's got RAM wise, but my Dad's been wanting to offload the thing for a while. Will have to see what (if anything) he's wanting to sell it for, or if he's actually taken to using it.
Take it you don't have much of a budget for upgrading purposes?
Edit: And uh, quick clarification, where are you? I live in the UK, so any help would only really work and make sense if we're in the same country.
Thanks for checking.
I think that just leaves my network as a possible cause. What are the steps I can do to check that next?
JonnyDBrit
Member
Probably try an online broadband test? Not just one that tests your download speed, but goes for stability and the like.
Hmmm, it's worth a look.
eBuyer, where my 580 re-order rests, said they'r expecting stock tomorrow. The date on their site has since vanished, though. Only reason I ordered with them was because they claimed to get cards in sooner, despite being more expensive.
I really don't know what to do. As it stands
+ 580 is the best card at that price point
+ I'm able to use my Free-Sync monitor
+ Cheaper than a 1070
− Not as powerful or future-proof as 1070
− Small price gap almost makes it worthwhile jumping to a 1070
− Nvidia's tech will accelerate my creative work
− 580's are nowhere to be found
ARRRRRGHHH,
Thanks for the feedback. I think I'll order one soon.