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[Skinpop]

gaf, it's time for me to get a new pc.

i'll be using it mostly for programming and dev-work.

som 3d stuff and video/image editing.

occasional gaming.

I want intel+nvidia for dev/programming reasons.

I want to have one 120+hz monitor, and one 60. how is it to work with multiple monitors with different refresh rates? anything I need to think about?

Around $1500 (+ monitors)would be ideal. Any cpu/gpu/ssd recommendations?

 

[xBladeM6x]

Consider Kraken x62 instead of the H115i.

I went from a Corsair H100 that I had for a couple of years to the Kraken, and I really like it. It feels a bit more premium than the Corsair offerings, and the pump is the best looking out of the current AIO offerings imo.

The Corsair stuff is fine too, just throwing an alternate suggestion. The 280mm rad doesn't make THAT much of a difference over 240mm, but it is there. If you're wanting to save some money a 240mm AIO will be just fine.

Get the Arctic Cooling Liquid Freezer 240 instead

Thanks for the suggestions, definitely going to reconsider my purchase.

 

[ISee]

gaf, it's time for me to get a new pc.

i'll be using it mostly for programming and dev-work.

som 3d stuff and video/image editing.

occasional gaming.

I want intel+nvidia for dev/programming reasons.

I want to have one 120+hz monitor, and one 60. how is it to work with multiple monitors with different refresh rates? anything I need to think about?

Around $1500 (+ monitors)would be ideal. Any cpu/gpu/ssd recommendations?

1.)Modern GPUs can easily handle two displays with different refresh rates simultaneously. Everything should be plug and play.

2.) You want a PC that has to handle programming, software development, heavy video and image editing, has to be a capable 120 fps gaming machine, has reliable SSDs, a lot of storage and is Intel/Nvidia based...
My first answer would be: Get a x299 platform based skylake-x build with 32 GB of Ram, at least a GTX 1080 and Samsung Pro SSDs. But that's more like $2500...

So we have to cut things down, but that's hard to do without knowing what you really need or prioritize.

- If you need to move or edit very large files I'd definitely consider a modern NVMe drive with at least 500GB. Something like a samsung 960Evo/Pro 500GB, a Toshiba OCZ RD400 512GB, a Corsair Force Series MP500 480GB or a Plextor M8Pe.

-If you need larger SSDs instead of very fast ones (sata 3 instead of nvme) get something like a samsung 850 Pro/Evo, OCZ VX500, Crucial MX300 or a Mushkin Reactor.

-As a motherboard the x299 Platform is to expansive, because the GPU will eat up too much of your budget. This makes the z270 or h270 platform your ideal choice. Get something with NVMe M.2 slots and full speed USB 3.1 support in case you wish to use usb 3.1 drives in the future.

- CPU wise the 7700k is your choice for z270. I wouldn't spend money on an expansive cpu cooler in your case though. Something like the cryorig H7 is enough.
*If you want to save some money for other parts a good h270 board, an i7 7700 non k and the stock cooler will also be fine... you can save ~$100 this way

-You'll probably have many programs open at once and load large videos and images. I'd definitely go for 32GB of Ram because of that. Get 2133 or 2400 MHz ddr4 to save some bugs for other components.
*especially if you go for a h270 MB

-GPU is a hard choice because of your 120fps target. Get at least a 1070 if you plan to get a fullHD 120Hz screen (and push for 120fps). Get whatever is cheap.

-PSU... 550W-600W. Whatever fits your budget.

-Case... whatever is left of your budget.

edit: maybe something like this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8t9DsJ

 

[kmfdmpig]

For anyone looking to pick up a mouse the G900 one is half price now:
https://slickdeals.net/f/10266096-l...trum-optical-gaming-mouse-74-99?src=catpagev2

 

[Skinpop]

Thank you for that excellent post

So we have to cut things down, but that's hard to do without knowing what you really need or prioritize.

edit: maybe something like this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8t9DsJ

I don't care much about maxing out the latest games, 120 hz is more for testing purposes. I won't be working much with large files and video/image editing isn't that heavy. I might do some crazy high/-rez renders though. Cutting down on the GPU would probably be my first choice. Maybe a 6 gig 1060 is enough?

That proposal looks pretty nice. Maybe a 512gig ssd + storage HD. Is skylake worth looking into?

 

[Bloodember]

Thank you for that excellent post



I don't care much about maxing out the latest games, 120 hz is more for testing purposes. I won't be working much with large files and video/image editing isn't that heavy. I might do some crazy high/-rez renders though. Cutting down on the GPU would probably be my first choice. Maybe a 6 gig 1060 is enough?

That proposal looks pretty nice. Maybe a 512gig ssd + storage HD. Is skylake worth looking into?

For what you are going to be doing, Ryzen would be a better choice, if not then get Kaby Lake, it would be dumb to get a CPU and motherboard that is over a year old. If you can afford it, like mentioned previously, x299.

 

[bs135]

Get the Arctic Cooling Liquid Freezer 240 instead

I can second this recommendation. I have one and it is excellent.

 

[Kadey]

You can do this with installing stuff to new PC.

I was freaking out because I bought a dead Blu-Ray and I thought I couldn't install anything. But all I did was download the programs onto my phone and transferred the files to new PC and installed them. No need to make a disc or wait for a new drive, or even get a drive from now on. Just do that.

 

[NEO0MJ]

For anyone looking to pick up a mouse the G900 one is half price now:
https://slickdeals.net/f/10266096-l...trum-optical-gaming-mouse-74-99?src=catpagev2

This reminded me, how are the Mad Catz RAT series? I was checking mouses at a store recently and thought they looked awesome. Yes they're everything people hate about gaming gear but I couldn't help but find it charming.

 

[ISee]

Thank you for that excellent post



I don't care much about maxing out the latest games, 120 hz is more for testing purposes. I won't be working much with large files and video/image editing isn't that heavy. I might do some crazy high/-rez renders though. Cutting down on the GPU would probably be my first choice. Maybe a 6 gig 1060 is enough?

That proposal looks pretty nice. Maybe a 512gig ssd + storage HD. Is skylake worth looking into?

If you don't need to push for 120 fps than a 1060 6GB is the way to go. Are we talking Skylake or Sklayke-x? The normal skylake is of course an option. It's just ~7% slower than Kabylake and that only because of the slightly slower base clock speed (architecture is mostly the same). If you can get an i7 6700 for significantly less than $300, than go for it. If it's just a couple bugs cheaper than a 7700 though... don't bother.
Sklyake-X on the other hand is intels new high-end 6 - 18 core series that is currently launching. It needs a more expansive x299 mb and the cpus are also more expansive. If you need/want more than 4c/8t from intel than it is the way to go (currently).

If 500 GB are enough than get a 850 Evo or a crucial MX300. For storage purposes get a WD blue or black with 7200rpm if you want something a bit more reliable.

 

[Skinpop]

For what you are going to be doing, Ryzen would be a better choice, if not then get Kaby Lake, it would be dumb to get a CPU and motherboard that is over a year old. If you can afford it, like mentioned previously, x299.

so if x299 then i7 7800X? TDP is looking crazy

 

[Akronis]

This reminded me, how are the Mad Catz RAT series? I was checking mouses at a store recently and thought they looked awesome. Yes they're everything people hate about gaming gear but I couldn't help but find it charming.

Mine only lasted about a year before it started flaking out. Inputs started to stop register at times.

 

[Bloodember]

so if x299 then i7 7800X? TDP is looking crazy

Yes, I wouldn't get anything less on that platform. TDP is really high on them, yes. If I was in your shoes, I'd get a Ryzen R7 1700X or wait for Threadripper. But if you have the money and want Intel go for it, the benchmarks look good for it.

 

[Skinpop]

Yes, I wouldn't get anything less on that platform. TDP is really high on them, yes. If I was in your shoes, I'd get a Ryzen R7 1700X or wait for Threadripper. But if you have the money and want Intel go for it, the benchmarks look good for it.

I'm moving abroad on the 9th of august and am looking to buy a pc within a week from then. Will threadripper be relevant by then? I'd rather stay on intel for dev-reasons but if the perf/$ ratio is that much better I might consider going amd.

Sklyake-X on the other hand is intels new high-end 6 - 18 core series that is currently launching. It needs a more expansive x299 mb and the cpus are also more expansive. If you need/want more than 4c/8t from intel than it is the way to go (currently).

I'll have to think hard about this one..

 

[Bread]

so i have an rx480, should i be trying to sell it while its value is high?

 

[Bloodember]

I'm moving abroad on the 9th of august and am looking to buy a pc within a week. Will threadripper be relevant by then?

Not sure when Threadripper is coming out.

 

[CraigerGamer]

Consider Kraken x62 instead of the H115i.

I went from a Corsair H100 that I had for a couple of years to the Kraken, and I really like it. It feels a bit more premium than the Corsair offerings, and the pump is the best looking out of the current AIO offerings imo.

The Corsair stuff is fine too, just throwing an alternate suggestion. The 280mm rad doesn't make THAT much of a difference over 240mm, but it is there. If you're wanting to save some money a 240mm AIO will be just fine.

I went NZXT crazy this weekend and bought their 340 Elite, the Kraken X62, and the Hue+ and some fans. The Kraken just looks so much different than any other cooler. I am glad to hear positive reviews.

 

[NEO0MJ]

Mine only lasted about a year before it started flaking out. Inputs started to stop register at times.

That's unfortunate to hear. I've been considering replacing my old Logitech G9X and I guess I wanted something a little different.

 

[BeardyChan]

Has anyone seen the Asus X370-f anywhere to buy yet? It's been a few weeks and I'm waiting to get it for my 1700x.

 

[Magwik]

I went NZXT crazy this weekend and bought their 340 Elite, the Kraken X62, and the Hue+ and some fans. The Kraken just looks so much different than any other cooler. I am glad to hear positive reviews.

Is the kraken as easy to install as it looks?

 

[BeardyChan]

Is the kraken as easy to install as it looks?

It's super easy to install and does a great job of cooling.

 

[CraigerGamer]

Is the kraken as easy to install as it looks?

I sure hope so. I should be receiving the new case et al later this week. By the looks of the install vids it looks super simple.

 

[hardcastlemccormick]

so i have an rx480, should i be trying to sell it while its value is high?

Yes, though be forewarned that you may have trouble finding a replacement GPU if you want one right away. The prices are high on basically everything but the low and very high end GPU markets.

 

[Fracas]

Holy moly at these GPU price increases

My bro just bought a 1070 and I'm tempted to sell mine, lol.

 

[Chris R]

Holy shit at the Threadripper socket......

Hoping it slays, I'm probably replacing my 3770k next year and would love it if AMD was a possible build for me.

 

[Bread]

Yes, though be forewarned that you may have trouble finding a replacement GPU if you want one right away. The prices are high on basically everything but the low and very high end GPU markets.

Id only do it if I could find a sub $400 1080, is that possible?

 

[NEO0MJ]

Id only do it if I could find a sub $400 1080, is that possible?

Nope. Even used that's hard to find. You did just miss a sale where newegg was offering the GIGABYTE Windforce for $420.

 

[Bread]

Nope. Even used that's hard to find. You did just miss a sale where newegg was offering the GIGABYTE Windforce for $420.

Hm ok, well how much is a 6 month old 480rx 8gb worth right now? Sorry to ask so many questions I'm way out of the loop!

 

[RumblingRosco]

Hm ok, well how much is a 6 month old 480rx 8gb worth right now? Sorry to ask so many questions I'm way out of the loop!

A quick check on eBay says $360-$460 sold, but it'd depend on the specific model.

 

[Bread]

A quick check on eBay says $360-$460 sold, but it'd depend on the specific model.

god damn, i paid $220 for it in November. thanks AMD!

 

[RumblingRosco]

god damn, i paid $220 for it in November. thanks AMD!

Yeah... the Ehterium and Bitcoin mining craze has made buying a GPU insane right now, especially 470/480/570/580. And, because those are so hard to find now, nVidia GPUs are getting bought up too - probably not for mining, but because no other options exist for us small-time PC builders ;(

 

[Mozendo]

This reminded me, how are the Mad Catz RAT series? I was checking mouses at a store recently and thought they looked awesome. Yes they're everything people hate about gaming gear but I couldn't help but find it charming.

From what I've saw tons of QC issues, and the metal is vulnerable to getting rusty.
My personal suggestion would be a Mionix Naos 7000

 

[Buggy Loop]

OMG the wait for Gigabyte or Asrock am4 mini-itx boards is killing me

The biostar one costs too much right? Convince me not to pull the trigger..

 

[Hopfrog]

Yeah... the Ehterium and Bitcoin mining craze has made buying a GPU insane right now, especially 470/480/570/580. And, because those are so hard to find now, nVidia GPUs are getting bought up too - probably not for mining, but because no other options exist for us small-time PC builders ;(

Yep. As someone in the market for a 1070 I can't look at Newegg right now. Every card is about $75 or more than it was about a week or two ago.

 

[Bloodember]

OMG the wait for Gigabyte or Asrock am4 mini-itx boards is killing me

The biostar one costs too much right? Convince me not to pull the trigger..

That's not hard, its biostar, stay far away!

 

[RumblingRosco]

Yep. As someone in the market for a 1070 I can't look at Newegg right now. Every card is about $75 or more than it was about a week or two ago.

I'm thankful that I am planning on keeping my 960 4 GB as I upgrade everything else. Otherwise I'd be sad too.

 

[Big Chungus]

Ignore the disc, download the latest drivers directly from nvidia's site.

Tried the drivers from the website, did custom installation and picked clean install, during the installation the screen goes black, this is in safe mode btw.

Edit: Restarted and the drivers seem to be installed but after playing games for 20 minutes or so the screen goes black.

 

[Megasoum]

What is the best and cheapest Dual Band Gigabit router these days?

I want the 5Ghz so Dual Band is a must and I have 130Mbps down internet so Gigabit is obviously needed too.

 

[ColdDeckEd]

Yeah... the Ehterium and Bitcoin mining craze has made buying a GPU insane right now, especially 470/480/570/580. And, because those are so hard to find now, nVidia GPUs are getting bought up too - probably not for mining, but because no other options exist for us small-time PC builders ;(

I suggest looking at used 980tis. They are still pretty damn good.

 

[sikkinixx]

Figures. My new Logitech pro G whatever keyboard shows up. I love it.

Sadly the led lighting in the W E F5 keys is borked. Blues and whites have a tinge of green to then that the other keys don't. Guess I get to call up Logitech and bitch. This damn pc build is a never ending slog of waiting and shit not working. For the money I've spent I could have just bought a stupid Xbox x and more and avoided the hassle. Ugh.

 

[opticalmace]

Tried the drivers from the website, did custom installation and picked clean install, during the installation the screen goes black, this is in safe mode btw.

Edit: Restarted and the drivers seem to be installed but after playing games for 20 minutes or so the screen goes black.

Was the 970 brand new or second hand? It could just be busted.

 

[Horse Detective]

I was hoping someone here could help me figure out how much of my current system could be saved to place into a small form factor case. I currently have a define r4. Thinking something the size of a node.

I am in the process of re learning everything I need to know to make a computer.

Intel Core i5 4670K @ 3.40GHz
8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 666MHz
MSI Z87-GD65
2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770
931GB Western Digital HD
238GB M4-CT256M4SSD2 (SSD)

Would it literally just be the GPU and RAM?

 

[RumblingRosco]

I suggest looking at used 980tis. They are still pretty damn good.

Ah for now I'm OK with my 960. I mainly play WoW and older games, but need some more processing power/RAM for my video editing, hence why I'm upgrading. I'm gonna wait for the 1100-series and grab the 1170 (or whatever the equivalent is) I think, sometime next year.

 

[Jeff6851]

I was hoping someone here could help me figure out how much of my current system could be saved to place into a small form factor case. I currently have a define r4. Thinking something the size of a node.

I am in the process of re learning everything I need to know to make a computer.

Intel Core i5 4670K @ 3.40GHz
8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 666MHz
MSI Z87-GD65
2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770
931GB Western Digital HD
238GB M4-CT256M4SSD2 (SSD)

Would it literally just be the GPU and RAM?

If you're going to a micro ATX case you'll need a similarly sized motherboard.

 

[AtlantiC_CodeX]

So I finally finished my first build ever however I think I made a big mistake by getting a usb wifi adapter instead of a pcie :/

The download speed is like half than what's on other devices, would getting a pcie adapter fix this?

This is the adapter I got btw

 

[Big Chungus]

Anyone know why a mouse wont work properly after performing a cmos reset?

It works fine in the Bios after the reset but in windows im not able to click, but i can still move the mouse cursor around.

Its a bluetooth wireless mouse, ive tried updating drivers, uninstalling the device and replugging the wireless reciever.

It acts the same way in safe mode.

Any suggestions?

 

[derFeef]

Okay I squeezed the last amout of mhz out of my 3770k running at 4.4Ghz stable now. I think I will be fine for another year if it does not fail on me? Overclocked my 1070 as well for a little bit, running everything pretty well at 1440p so far. System still runs relatively cool for that, even in my warm environment.

I thought of upgrading to Ryzen but I don't feel the need right now,, even if I would like some multithreading performance gain for software.

 

[ISee]

Okay I squeezed the last amout of mhz out of my 3770k running at 4.4Ghz stable now. I think I will be fine for another year if it does not fail on me? Overclocked my 1070 as well for a little bit, running everything pretty well at 1440p so far. System still runs relatively cool for that, even in my warm environment.

I thought of upgrading to Ryzen but I don't feel the need right now,, even if I would like some multithreading performance gain for software.

Gaming wise a 3770k @ 4.4GHz is still a very capable CPU. If you're just looking to reach stable 60fps you can probably hold out till the next console generation arrives (or till they start implementing much stronger cpus into consoles).

 

[NEO0MJ]

From what I've saw tons of QC issues, and the metal is vulnerable to getting rusty.
My personal suggestion would be a Mionix Naos 7000

That looks pretty nice, but unfortunately I don't think they carry it here. Mostly just Razer and Logitech.

 

[Napoleonthechimp]

So I finally finished my first build ever however I think I made a big mistake by getting a usb wifi adapter instead of a pcie :/

The download speed is like half than what's on other devices, would getting a pcie adapter fix this?

This is the adapter I got btw

The advertised 300 Mbps is lower than the theoretical maximum of USB 2.0 and probably less than that what it realistic can deliver, so a PCIe card wouldn't do much.

Are you sure you installed the right driver and is it connected via wireless n?