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I need advice on how to handle my little sister's situation

Tell your sister you don't think less of her, and women, who have premarital sex. Tell her you honestly believe men and women should have the agency to have sex if they want, and that you don't believe that having sex outside of marriage makes you a horrible person doomed to hell. Let her know that your first and only concern, as her sibling, is for her to be mentally and physically happy and healthy, and that you simply don't want her to do anything she's not comfortable with because you love her and just want her to be happy.

Let her know that if she's intimidated by this guy, you're more than happy to knock him out with a baseball bat, but if she really likes him you'd like to get to know him and you're supportive of her decisions. Emphasize you just want her to be with a man who respects her agency and desires.

aw man this feels kinda heartwarming :/

+1 to this post, op
 

Fj0823

Member
Talk to the school, they may have someone who can help in these situations.

I wouldn't advise getting the school involved unless it's absolutely necessary.

If that religious school works anything like mine word gets out about what happened she will be branded a "slut" by all the good God fearing almost-saint girls that have the decency to keep the fact that they have sex with older College dudes a secret.

Not to mention how teachers themselves treat you...
 

PixlNinja

Banned
Well, it's rape imo. I would involve the police for some restraining order.

Sounds like she clearly doesn't like him.

Aw hell no, gtfoh with that noise. Throwing that term around like that leads to people having their lives ruined when you're not getting the full picture. And I for one know that when I don't like somebody I have them come in my house and fuck me for a second time... :l

OP's sister is confused and feeling guilt because she wanted to have sex but also wants to respect her family values and upbringing. And of course she doesn't want to get pregnant and kicked out of school. She isn't innocent tho.
 
Who said bloody vengeance? I'm an older brother too. You can confront people without having to punch them in the mouth.

Yeah, sorry, it was more about the general vibe in here, not certain why I jumped on your comment.
I did add the thing about authorities though. Confronting directly may feel right, but I'm not sure it is.
 
Why are people talking about how honest the sister may or may not be? Or how much she may or may not like the guy? If she is a freshman she is 14, 15 years old tops. It's pretty clear that the graduating student raped her, whether statutory or otherwise.

That depends on the country.

In my country it's 15, and no one bats an eye at a girl that age having sex with someone around the same age. Even 15-year-old girls are sexual beings. The most important thing is that it's consensual and safe.
 

Mariolee

Member
Punch? Who said anything about just punching??? In all seriousness though I can't imagine trying to hold that anger in. Kudos to you

One thing to keep in mind, if he doesn't want to be a father (which I doubt he wanted to anyway) you should really protect your sister. I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to inflict bodily harm to her causing her to lose the child.[/QUOTE]

I'm definitely going to be on the lookout.

Dude sounds like a rapist

Legally, he is.

Yup.

Women are not always helpless victims, and they do have sexuality. It's not necessarily the job of you as her brother to act as a chaperone on her sexuality.

(Assuming she is legal age) the best thing you can do for her is helping her understand what she can do on her end for contraception. Because I'm guessing her Christian school didn't teach her. If you can't or would find it too awkward, direct her to the equivalent of Planned Parenthood. They would likely also help her do the right thing if your suspicions about consent in this case are correct.

Basically, she needs to speak with an adult outside the family

Definitely going to look into these options. However, she's very adamant about not getting an abortion. If she's pregnant, she will have the baby.

that's depressing and reminded me about that thread on forced child marriages in the US.

Seriously.

Your little sister was potentially raped and you're waiting for permission to talk to this dude? You're supposed to be the big brother.

Go fuck yourself dude.
 

kirblar

Member
The most important thing is to make sue that she gets the medical help she needs here and to make sure he is separated from your sister once school's over. Regardless if it was consensual or not, he's a pushy predatory scumbag who shouldn't come near her again.

W/ the pregnancy tests, something important to consider is that an abnormality like ectopic Pregnancy will not show up on a pregnancy test. She really should see a doctor if you can get her in to one.
 

HiiiLife

Member
Yeah, sorry, it was more about the general vibe in here, not certain why I jumped on your comment.
I did add the thing about authorities though. Confronting directly may feel right, but I'm not sure it is.

It's all good. I feel for the OP coming from the perspective of an older sibling. But you have a point too. It's just a shitty situation seeing your blood go through stuff like that.
 
Aw hell no, gtfoh with that noise. Throwing that term around like that leads to people having their lives ruined when you're not getting the full picture. And I for one know that when I don't like somebody I have them come in my house and fuck me for a second time... :l

OP's sister is confused and feeling guilt because she wanted to have sex but also wants to respect her family values and upbringing. And of course she doesn't want to get pregnant and kicked out of school. She isn't innocent tho.

Unless someone might be feeling pressured by for example having some guy suddenly show up on their doorstep when they are are home alone.
 

YaBish

Member
I don't know if this will ease your mind (or your sisters) at all, but sometimes when women are sexually active, they might skip a period, even if they're on birth control.

Freaked me the fuck out when it happened to my girlfriend and I, but she took two pregnancy tests (it works best about a week after a skipped period) and they both came up negative. Then a month later her period started back up again.

As for advice, I'm sure that plenty of people are going to chime in, but it might be necessary for the police to get involved/press charges. Always keep that in the back of your mind.

And if your sister is pregnant, well... I wish her the best of luck.
 
Why are people talking about how honest the sister may or may not be? Or how much she may or may not like the guy? If she is a freshman she is 14, 15 years old tops. It's pretty clear that the graduating student raped her, whether statutory or otherwise.

Because statutory or otherwise, in my eyes, are still two very different things warranting different reacrions.
It's also important to get all the facts straight when involving cops.
Don't think you want to tell them anything that you interpreted wrongly, complicating things for the victim.
 
OP, I don't think your sister is pregnant. I think it's her anxiety. It's very likely she wouldn't be exhibiting symptoms like that so soon.

I wish her and you the best.
 

Zips

Member
If they've had sex at least a couple times now already this guy is going to keep coming back for more once the pregnancy scare has passed. It sounds like he's already pressured her for sex and found it works, so without a clear danger he'll want to continue.

If she doesn't want to be with him, she'll have to put her foot down. Threatening to get the police involved seems like a good angle, but I'd be prepared to back her up if he calls it a bluff and ends up pressuring her for more still.

The context she's in with the conservative family etc. will likely serve to make her feel powerless since she's already in so deep. Be prepared to jump in if she isn't able to say no.
 

HiiiLife

Member
One thing to keep in mind, if he doesn't want to be a father (which I doubt he wanted to anyway) you should really protect your sister. I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to inflict bodily harm to her causing her to lose the child.

I'm definitely going to be on the lookout.



Legally, he is.



Definitely going to look into these options. However, she's very adamant about not getting an abortion. If she's pregnant, she will have the baby.



Seriously.



Go fuck yourself dude.

For telling you to confront him? Sorry if it came off as assholish.
 

PixlNinja

Banned
she is FOURTEEN. it's rape dude.


We need to stop pretending as if fourteen year olds are somehow incapable of logic and making good or bad decisions. She made a bad decision and so did he, it's completely normal. I knew plenty of 8th/9th graders that were fucking seniors when I was in High School. It happens.
 

99Luffy

Banned
Coming to your house without you knowing is crossing the line, thats your domain. Go over to house with a baseball bat.
 

idlewild_

Member
I'm not sure if you getting involved is going to do much if your sister doesn't also explicitly tell him no, unless of course you assault him. He's just going to think you're an older sibling trying to cockblock him.
 
Definitely going to look into these options. However, she's very adamant about not getting an abortion. If she's pregnant, she will have the baby.

If it should come to that, and knocking on wood that it won't, I hope you won't allow anyone to make her feel guilty about this.
Raising, adoption, a surprising choice for termination, whatever, this feels like a situation where some people will be shit, and you can be a supportive pillar against that scum.
I mean, I'm sure you will.
Just wanted to get that out there.
 

Alucrid

Banned
We need to stop pretending as if fourteen year olds are somehow incapable of logic and making good or bad decisions. She made a bad decision and so did he, it's completely normal. I knew plenty of 8th/9th graders that were fucking seniors when I was in High School. It happens.

that doesn't change the age on consent

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Mariolee

Member
I get the urge to take justice in your own hand. I'm a big brother. I've felt that.
But I feel it's our purpose, as people asked for advice, to not suggest bloody vengeance that will just fuck up his own future.
What the hell.
Even going and confronting isn't wise imo.
There are people to involve. Authorities. Someone who actually can legally do something.

I'm confronting him. Not planning on getting into any physical altercations though.

You guys sure lather up quick. There is the very real possibility that the OPs sister isn't being totally honest. Now that could mean this dude is a straight up rapist, or it could mean she wants to have sex like many teenagers do but feels ashamed because of her family/religious upbringing.

For sure, and I brought this up to her as I understand what growing up under that restraining environment is like. I think she trusts me at this point in that regard. She did tell me that when they had sex in April, she was confused but she straight up said she didn't like him.

Tell your sister you don't think less of her, and women, who have premarital sex. Tell her you honestly believe men and women should have the agency to have sex if they want, and that you don't believe that having sex outside of marriage makes you a horrible person doomed to hell. Let her know that your first and only concern, as her sibling, is for her to be mentally and physically happy and healthy, and that you simply don't want her to do anything she's not comfortable with because you love her and just want her to be happy.

Let her know that if she's intimidated by this guy, you're more than happy to knock him out with a baseball bat, but if she really likes him you'd like to get to know him and you're supportive of her decisions. Emphasize you just want her to be with a man who respects her agency and desires.

Third and last edit, let her know that she never owes a man her body for any fucking reason. This is extremely important. Let her know that she never has any fucking obligation, ever, regardless of how much time and effort and money and trouble the man has spent or claimed to spend on her.

I actually let her know all of this when I talked to her earlier. This isn't the first time I've talked with someone about feeling vulnerable and afraid in a relationship. It's just the first time it's been with someone as close as my sister.

Sorry dude my comment wasn't helpful at all. I have 2 younger sisters, they wouldn't ever talk to me about anything like that and it's probably down to the (unhelpful) reaction they know I'd have. Honestly, I don't know what you should do, it's a really difficult situation. Whatever you feel is best is what I would suggest, I'm sure other posters will help you to work that out with much better advice than me. Best of luck to you and your sister and I'm sorry to hear this.

Thanks man.

By the way, I hope your sister feels better soon through all this. That's a really tough and sad situation.

Don't get yourself arrested, OP. What kind of senior goes after a freshman in high school? What a fucking weirdo.

I think dude was a virgin before sex with my sister and wanted to lose his virginity before going to college which is why he kept pushing with my sister, who may have been the most viable girl during his senior year at the time. It makes me that much angrier.

How old is your sister and how old is the guy?

15 and 18.

I wouldn't advise getting the school involved unless it's absolutely necessary.

If that religious school works anything like mine word gets out about what happened she will be branded a "slut" by all the good God fearing almost-saint girls that have the decency to keep the fact that they have sex with older College dudes a secret.

Not to mention how teachers themselves treat you...

Exactly. I think for the most part (since I went to the High School too) it's a bit more understanding than other Christian schools, but to keep up their image they do have a private talk with you and try to keep all this unpure stuff a secret anyways. Like, they hate to do it because they genuinely love you as a person but they still do shit like this.
 

Volimar

Member
ITT: People who never went to a school where freshmen dated seniors.

Tell your sister you don't think less of her, and women, who have premarital sex. Tell her you honestly believe men and women should have the agency to have sex if they want, and that you don't believe that having sex outside of marriage makes you a horrible person doomed to hell. Let her know that your first and only concern, as her sibling, is for her to be mentally and physically happy and healthy, and that you simply don't want her to do anything she's not comfortable with because you love her and just want her to be happy.

Let her know that if she's intimidated by this guy, you're more than happy to knock him out with a baseball bat, but if she really likes him you'd like to get to know him and you're supportive of her decisions. Emphasize you just want her to be with a man who respects her agency and desires.

Third and last edit, let her know that she never owes a man her body for any fucking reason. This is extremely important. Let her know that she never has any fucking obligation, ever, regardless of how much time and effort and money and trouble the man has spent or claimed to spend on her.

Agree with all this.
 
We need to stop pretending as if fourteen year olds are somehow incapable of logic and making good or bad decisions. She made a bad decision and so did he, it's completely normal. I knew plenty of 8th/9th graders that were fucking seniors when I was in High School. It happens.

It was rape in that situation and rape in this situation. Minors having sex with older people is a fuzzy line which can have serious consequences. Careful edit: you can always have that argument that some such relationships are fine and it's 'only' statutory rape but the laws are there to protect people if they're being taken advantage of. So it's only labelling it what it is.

Tell your sister you don't think less of her, and women, who have premarital sex. Tell her you honestly believe men and women should have the agency to have sex if they want, and that you don't believe that having sex outside of marriage makes you a horrible person doomed to hell. Let her know that your first and only concern, as her sibling, is for her to be mentally and physically happy and healthy, and that you simply don't want her to do anything she's not comfortable with because you love her and just want her to be happy.

Let her know that if she's intimidated by this guy, you're more than happy to knock him out with a baseball bat, but if she really likes him you'd like to get to know him and you're supportive of her decisions. Emphasize you just want her to be with a man who respects her agency and desires.

Third and last edit, let her know that she never owes a man her body for any fucking reason. This is extremely important. Let her know that she never has any fucking obligation, ever, regardless of how much time and effort and money and trouble the man has spent or claimed to spend on her.

This is all really good advice. Most important thing is that you can be there for your sister in a way it doesn't sound your parents can be, which is what she's gonna need in such a hard and confusing time. Show her love and support, and hopefully in that she'll more able to stand up for herself in the future.
 
Tell your sister you don't think less of her, and women, who have premarital sex. Tell her you honestly believe men and women should have the agency to have sex if they want, and that you don't believe that having sex outside of marriage makes you a horrible person doomed to hell. Let her know that your first and only concern, as her sibling, is for her to be mentally and physically happy and healthy, and that you simply don't want her to do anything she's not comfortable with because you love her and just want her to be happy.

Let her know that if she's intimidated by this guy, you're more than happy to knock him out with a baseball bat, but if she really likes him you'd like to get to know him and you're supportive of her decisions. Emphasize you just want her to be with a man who respects her agency and desires.

Third and last edit, let her know that she never owes a man her body for any fucking reason. This is extremely important. Let her know that she never has any fucking obligation, ever, regardless of how much time and effort and money and trouble the man has spent or claimed to spend on her.

Now this is some good advice. Listen to this poster, OP.
 
You guys sure lather up quick. There is the very real possibility that the OPs sister isn't being totally honest. Now that could mean this dude is a straight up rapist, or it could mean she wants to have sex like many teenagers do but feels ashamed because of her family/religious upbringing.

Tell your sister you don't think less of her, and women, who have premarital sex. Tell her you honestly believe men and women should have the agency to have sex if they want, and that you don't believe that having sex outside of marriage makes you a horrible person doomed to hell. Let her know that your first and only concern, as her sibling, is for her to be mentally and physically happy and healthy, and that you simply don't want her to do anything she's not comfortable with because you love her and just want her to be happy.

Let her know that if she's intimidated by this guy, you're more than happy to knock him out with a baseball bat, but if she really likes him you'd like to get to know him and you're supportive of her decisions. Emphasize you just want her to be with a man who respects her agency and desires.

Third and last edit, let her know that she never owes a man her body for any fucking reason. This is extremely important. Let her know that she never has any fucking obligation, ever, regardless of how much time and effort and money and trouble the man has spent or claimed to spend on her.

These are good posts.
 

Babyshams

Member
She would need to be willing to go to the police for anything to happen.

Doesn't seem like she is. So unless you want to go cowboy with this and just assault the guy you're kinda shit out of luck.
 

Cyanity

Banned
Coming to your house without you knowing is crossing the line, thats your domain. Go over to house with a baseball bat.

Life isn't a Hollywood movie where your actions have no consequences. Y'all need to get out of here with this dangerous and useless advice.
 

mlclmtckr

Banned
Aw hell no, gtfoh with that noise. Throwing that term around like that leads to people having their lives ruined when you're not getting the full picture. And I for one know that when I don't like somebody I have them come in my house and fuck me for a second time... :l

OP's sister is confused and feeling guilt because she wanted to have sex but also wants to respect her family values and upbringing. And of course she doesn't want to get pregnant and kicked out of school. She isn't innocent tho.

You need to get your ass kicked almost as hard as the guy from the story.
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
If she's 15 and he's 18 then it's still illegal.

Not necessarily. To quote Transformers: Age of Extinction...

No but seriously, it depends on where they're at. High school seniors date freshmen all the time. Seniors are 18 or turning 18 and the freshmen are 14-15.
 

mlclmtckr

Banned
Also everyone is saying seniors date freshmen all the time and it's no big deal but where I went to high school only the saddest creepiest loser seniors ever dated freshmen and yeah they were considered borderline sex offenders. So idk what the fuck is going on in yalls high schools.
 

jaekeem

Member
Also everyone is saying seniors date freshmen all the time and it's no big deal but where I went to high school only the saddest creepiest loser seniors ever dated freshmen and yeah they were considered borderline sex offenders. So idk what the fuck is going on in yalls high schools.

+1
 

Volimar

Member
Also everyone is saying seniors date freshmen all the time and it's no big deal but where I went to high school only the saddest creepiest loser seniors ever dated freshmen and yeah they were considered borderline sex offenders. So idk what the fuck is going on in yalls high schools.

<shrug> It was fairly normal here. Everyone from grades 9-12 dated each other.
 

Kthulhu

Member
Also everyone is saying seniors date freshmen all the time and it's no big deal but where I went to high school only the saddest creepiest loser seniors ever dated freshmen and yeah they were considered borderline sex offenders. So idk what the fuck is going on in yalls high schools.

Same. Seniors at my highschool either dated juniors that were 17+, other seniors, or someone in college. If you dated outside of that you were considered a creep.
 

akira28

Member
I guess the whole "you know what to do" is you're her big brother, you burn this dude. I don't mean literally, I mean you go talk to your parents and instead of focusing on punishing her into paste which is super easy for conservative families to do and often the path of least resistance you help bulldog this thing into your family coming together to protect your sister and make sure this senior student faces consequences. Either they all go over to his house old school and say hey your son got our daughter pregnant, what are you going to do about it? Or figure it out. If she was forced, then you need to talk to the school principal, maybe the police need to get involved as well. But you do something.

Also everyone is saying seniors date freshmen all the time and it's no big deal but where I went to high school only the saddest creepiest loser seniors ever dated freshmen and yeah they were considered borderline sex offenders. So idk what the fuck is going on in yalls high schools.

back in the day before my time, a senior freshman relationship would probably not include sex. because everyone would be watching them like a hawk mostly, lol.

In this age of teens having babies, the seniors dating freshman where everyone knows what's up, that's pretty obvious and pretty frowned on. Like desperation and 'of course a freshman girl will say yes'.
 

Dr.Acula

Banned
Honestly, you need to be there for her, listen to her, and support her. She's 15, she's still figuring stuff out. If her primary experience with sex leads to all the male figures in her family life flying off the handle and getting violent, or trying to take over her romantic life, it's just going to fuck up her ability to have relationships in future.

This guy is pressuring and harassing her, she's lost control over ability to control her relationship here. Don't then take more control out of her hands by making decisions for her.
 

phanphare

Banned
good god gaf, chill

OP just be there for your sister whatever happens. the next step is the second pregnancy test. wait for that and take it from there. just support your sister no matter what. she's priority number 1, 2, and 3. don't get the cops involved unless some more details come to light or this guy does some shit again. don't beat him up, don't take a baseball bat to his head, don't use a blowtorch on him, etc. just focus on your sister and that's that. have your face to face with the guy if you must but be cool, calm, and collected about it. don't do anything to make the situation worse for yourself or your sister.
 

Keri

Member
Unfortunately, I don't think your sister's situation is all that uncommon. A lot of young girls don't know how to say "no" or don't feel like they're able to, because they don't understand that they're allowed to prioritize their feelings. Please follow backslashbunny's advice. Tell her that having sex isn't wrong, but that she never has to, if she's not feeling comfortable.
 
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