Why are so many thinking in extremes? Having a drink or two will not get any adult shitfaced.
I'm 32 and never had alcohol. It is, and can be as fun as you make it. People watching is something you can do drunk or sober.
i would hate to be like this and feel for you OP, talk to people, how else would you make friends in life?
because alcohol is gateway drug that could lead op down a road of marijuana heroin and death.
This just sounds like you were in a relationship with someone you aren't compatible within and/or you hang out with a lot of people who are different than you, not some kind of accurate commentary on the state of the world. If anything, we've moved towards introversion being more and more accepted with how so much interaction is done through text and popular devices that allow people to go off into their own worlds even when they're surrounded by others.Tangentially related, the thing i hate about being an introvert is that in the eyes of society, no one respects or allows you to be introvert. Its always a matter of people trying to move you towards extroverted behaviors. Like, i never heard someone tell an extrovert that they need to stop being so much of an extrovert.
I completely understand that a large part of living life is having and maintaining interpersonal relationships but again, many people act as if being introverted and having good friendships is somehow mutually exclusive.
As someone who just broke up with an extroverted gf, i feel like im constantly up against a wall that says i need to be out doing fun stuff (read: socializing) and that if i'm not then i'm wasting my life or i'm not trying hard enough or i have no ambition.
Why is it such a problem for people to enjoy their own company more than the company of a bevy of people i may or may not even know?
Tangentially related, the thing i hate about being an introvert is that in the eyes of society, no one respects or allows you to be introvert. Its always a matter of people trying to move you towards extroverted behaviors. Like, i never heard someone tell an extrovert that they need to stop being so much of an extrovert.
I completely understand that a large part of living life is having and maintaining interpersonal relationships but again, many people act as if being introverted and having good friendships is somehow mutually exclusive.
As someone who just broke up with an extroverted gf, i feel like im constantly up against a wall that says i need to be out doing fun stuff (read: socializing) and that if i'm not then i'm wasting my life or i'm not trying hard enough or i have no ambition.
Why is it such a problem for people to enjoy their own company more than the company of a bevy of people i may or may not even know?
For you.
I really enjoy it. You keep doing your thing and I'll keep doing mine. I'm not judging you, how about you don't judge me?
Well, "went to" a party isn't really the right way of saying it. I was visiting a friend in another state and staying at his place, and he hosted a party, so the party just sorta coalesced around me.
It was awful. The only person I knew was busy hosting the party, so I was just trapped in an enclosed space with a bunch of random strangers. They were all socializing, drinking, and dancing, but since I didn't know anyone, don't drink, and don't dance, I didn't know what to do. We had Street Fighter V on for a little bit at the beginning of the party so I participated in that, but then someone kicked us off and took over the TV. After that, I pretty much just found the closest thing there was to a quiet corner and literally sat there doing nothing but watching people for the next hour. Then I decided to pull out my phone and browse GAF and hope people left soon for the rest of the night. The party didn't really disperse until 2 am.
And the worst thing was, since I was staying where the party was, I couldn't leave. There was nowhere else I could go. I was trapped.
I don't understand how people can have fun at parties like this. What are you supposed to do if you don't know anyone? And even if you do know someone, wouldn't you rather go somewhere quieter where you can converse at a reasonable volume instead of trying to scream over everyone else?
Tell me I'm not alone in this and there are fellow shy introverts here on GAF to sympathize with me.
Going out and getting shitfaced isn't overrated lame immature, it's boring. I usually only associate it with kids who've just reached legal drinking age and bored folk out in the country with absolutely nothing else to do.
This.
I've always been an introvert but I'm not shy. I'll go talk to people, it just feels exhausting being in a party situation.
Hate the taste.
I can't speak on the GF part, but one thing I learned recently is that you're gonna have to stop caring. What's even worse than being an introvert is being an introvert constantly being concerned with the social expectations of other people. One problem I kept running into is that I escalated my level of introvert to hyperbolic levels and people weren't willing to go to that level with me. Be social when you want to, don't worry about how other people feel about it.Tangentially related, the thing i hate about being an introvert is that in the eyes of society, no one respects or allows you to be introvert. Its always a matter of people trying to move you towards extroverted behaviors. Like, i never heard someone tell an extrovert that they need to stop being so much of an extrovert.
I completely understand that a large part of living life is having and maintaining interpersonal relationships but again, many people act as if being introverted and having good friendships is somehow mutually exclusive.
As someone who just broke up with an extroverted gf, i feel like im constantly up against a wall that says i need to be out doing fun stuff (read: socializing) and that if i'm not then i'm wasting my life or i'm not trying hard enough or i have no ambition.
Why is it such a problem for people to enjoy their own company more than the company of a bevy of people i may or may not even know?
I'm not a fan of the taste either, which is why I also don't drink.
For sure, we we're completely incompatible. It'd be disingenuous to apply that to the state of the world but as anecdotal as it is, for me, that's how things have always been. Happens to me all the time, everywhere. Even today at work, On sunday the weather was unseasonably warm and it was a beautiful day. I come to work and someone asks me what i did since the weather was so nice and i say not much, just stayed home and i get side eyed like really?! You didn't do anything? as if that's wrong some how. Then i feel compelled to excuse it and handwave it off like "Oh, well it was a long week, i just needed to relax and catch up on some sleep" when the reality is i just felt like staying home so that's what i did. Why do people view it as some damn near mental disorder if i choose to stay in on a nice day?This just sounds like you were in a relationship with someone you aren't compatible within and/or you hang out with a lot of people who are different than you, not some kind of accurate commentary on the state of the world. If anything, we've moved towards introversion being more and more accepted with how so much interaction is done through text and popular devices that allow people to go off into their own worlds even when they're surrounded by others.
I disagree. People being overly extroverted in the wrong situation gets irritating and I've seen it happen many a time that such people have been told to calm down.
But anyway, this post falls into the trap that I can't help but feel so many posters is this thread have fallen into: treating it all as binary, one is either introverted or extroverted. In reality most people are ambiverts with a slight tendency to one or the other. Hell, you could argue that the whole concept of introversion/extroversion, as described by Jung, is extremely ill-defined and unscientific. What is this "energy"? Emotional (and if so, what is that)? Physical? Both? Neither?
I have a somewhat controversial opinion in that being seen as "introverted", especially in geeky circles and with the rise of geek culture, is seen as in some way "cool" and people want to be seen as that way and hence describe themselves as being introverts, not only without a real understanding of what that means but also without an understanding that the vast majority of people are not at the poles. We can see it in this thread, with people confusing introversion with social anxiety and using it to justify not exactly social behaviour.
It sure happened to me. I used to be very social, then got a bit insecure as I became obese and now I've bounced back via working out and being in better shape than ever. I did not have such a great time at parties for like 2 years though.I dunno if you can... turn introverted?
You're the one who started off with the whole "am I the only one?" gig in response to the general opinion in this thread lmao. Don't go on with that whole "don't judge me" song and dance after pulling that.
Some of the replies here have been amusing though. People worried about alcoholism (because clearly this is an utterly binary situation), roofies, puking up over everyone, recommendation to stick to one or maybe two drinks ... Jesus. Am I the only person here that goes to parties where people get drunk, chat, maybe get off with each other and has a generally great time?
DUI Mario Kart.
I can't speak on the GF part, but one thing I learned recently is that you're gonna have to stop caring. What's even worse than being an introvert is being an introvert constantly being concerned with the social expectations of other people. One problem I kept running into is that I escalated my level of introvert to hyperbolic levels and people weren't willing to go to that level with me. Be social when you want to, don't worry about how other people feel about it.
I used to have this problem. I didn't feel like I was interesting. It was a self consciousness issue.
So I started listening to podcasts and reading books with the goal of becoming interesting. Basically just giving myself a reason to believe I have something I add to a conversation. It helped a lot. I'm not the nerd who knows about nothing but a few boring subjects any more.
Once I started doing that, I realized that talking to strangers isn't as hard as it seems. All of the problems I had were in my own head.
Extroverts are painted as energetic, fun, outgoing, the life of the party. Introverts are viewed as the exact opposite even though thats woefully inaccurate.
Did I say they were wrong, or did I say it's something I consider a boring activity?"i dont like doing a thing so everyone that does it is wrong"
I think you missed the whole point of that post. Let me remind you:
It was the ridiculous extremes that people were going to, hence the "because clearly this is an utterly binary situation".
I want that answer as well and I think it boils down to societal conditioning, which to me has never satiated my curiosity.i guess my overall question that i feel like i've never got answered over the years is why is introversion considered bad or undesirable and the opposite for extroversion?
So when is it not about being an introvert and more about being socially awkward. You can be introverted and not do what the OP did. An introvert may be uncomfortable in certain settings but that doesn't mean they have to collapse in the corner. It's not like only extroverts have parties
Did I say they were wrong, or did I say it's something I consider a boring activity?
It's not always time to meme, dude.
Going out and getting shitfaced isn't overrated lame immature, it's boring.
Which is all well and good at parties. But in other environments it is not what you want. You've never seen someone described as "attention seeking"? "Inappropriately loud"? That's people being criticised for what is viewed (incorrectly) as extroversion in an inappropriate setting.
I notice you pointed out that the view of introversion was incorrect but didn't offer the same qualifier on your incorrect "painting" of extroverts.
Oh ffs do I have to put "IMO" in every damn post? You made up what the opposing opinion on getting shitfaced apparently was, I gave you mine.You didn't treat it as an opinion, you treated it as an absolute.
Oh ffs do I have to put "IMO" in every damn post? You made up what the opposing opinion on getting shitfaced apparently was, I gave you mine.
You pretty obviously said that the responses here are "amusing" because it doesn't match your view. That's you judging the people with that opinion. lol
Lol the irony of this post.Well thanks for your great input in a thread asking for advice about meeting people at a party
Saying they'll become an alcoholic is shooting at bit far, but it's not like OP is experienced at drinking either. Probably gonna get smashed from vapors.No, I obviously found them amusing as people were looking only at extremes.
I mean Jesus, we went from having one or two drinks to someone being worried about becoming an alcoholic. Surely you can see that that is a slight overreaction?
Staying inside on a nice day doesn't really have anything to do with being introverted.For sure, we we're completely incompatible. It'd be disingenuous to apply that to the state of the world but as anecdotal as it is, for me, that's how things have always been. Happens to me all the time, everywhere. Even today at work, On sunday the weather was unseasonably warm and it was a beautiful day. I come to work and someone asks me what i did since the weather was so nice and i say not much, just stayed home and i get side eyed like really?! You didn't do anything? as if that's wrong some how. Then i feel compelled to excuse it and handwave it off like "Oh, well it was a long week, i just needed to relax and catch up on some sleep" when the reality is i just felt like staying home so that's what i did. Why do people view it as some damn near mental disorder if i choose to stay in on a nice day?
If you drink every day you're an alcoholic. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Also, date-rape is a real issue. I could dig up statistics, but I don't think I have to.Yeah this fearmongering about alcohol is funny to me. It's not going to suddenly lead you down a path of drunken debauchery if you touch the stuff. Millions of people drink every day and 99% of them do it responsibly and have a great time.
Oh ffs do I have to put "IMO" in every damn post? You made up what the opposing opinion on getting shitfaced apparently was, I gave you mine.
If you drink every day you're an alcoholic. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
If you drink every day you're an alcoholic. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Also, date-rape is a real issue. I could dig up statistics, but I don't think I have to.
Saying they'll become an alcoholic is shooting at bit far, but it's not like OP is experienced at drinking either. Probably gonna get smashed from vapors.