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Thread. Imagine a scenario where if the console makers agree to pay the new runtime fee to Unity, do you think they will absorb the fee, or pass the cost to the players by increasing the game price or charge a small sum of money for additional install?

 

[Virex]

Thread. Imagine a scenario where if the console makers agree to pay the new runtime fee to Unity, do you think they will absorb the fee, or pass the cost to the players by increasing the game price or charge a small sum of money for additional install?

 

[The Cockatrice]

 

[MasterCornholio]

By Co you mean Microsoft and Nintendo right not only PlayStation?

I think it the end someone is going to pay those costs one way or another.

 

[Three]

Thread. Imagine a scenario where if the console makers agree to pay the new runtime fee to Unity, do you think they will absorb the fee, or pass the cost to the players by increasing the game price or charge a small sum of money for additional install?

There is no such thing as a free lunch so I doubt they would absorb the fee. They're more likely to increase the percentage cut payable by the publisher by some miniscule amount to reach $0.20 if they agree to it at all.

What you should be more concerned with is subs like gamepass/PS+ where you have many more installs and no actual game sale to boost by $0.20. Would they absorb the fee then?

 

[near]

If I've understood this correctly, installs through sub services like Game Pass & PS Plus would mean PlayStation and Xbox would incur the fee. If that is the case, we would eventually feel the weight of those fees.

 

[systemr123]

They would definitely. But then again, they shouldn't accept this extortion tactics in the first place. They get to pay for something that's not even their creation. Also, they should charge the unity games engine company for the storage of every game on the server and costs per GB downloaded using said servers.

 

[Daneel Elijah]

This. Or maybe this:

 

[Nankatsu]

They already have. What do you think the PS plus raise was about?

 

[Killer8]

Nothing in life is free.

 

[Stuart360]

Very few AAA games use Unity anyway, and AAA is all people care about on here anyway so. Its something thats going to effect AA and Indie games way more.

 

[AmuroChan]

Let's hope Unity goes bankrupt before that happens.

 

[StereoVsn]

Will Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft pass costs to the customer? Does a bear shit in the woods?

 

[Impotaku]

Still not sure how it would work with nintendo as i don't know if games really install on that console. There's no installation process you can see at all like with the other 2 but going on past history theres no way any of the 3 would pass a oppeprtunity to pass on the costs to the users.

 

[jroc74]

They already have. What do you think the PS plus raise was about?

This.

Its tin foil hat territory, but still.

 

[brian0057]

I mean, why wouldn't they? It's literally how economics works.
At some point, someone has to pay the bill. It's be nice if they took that burden but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[Filben]

Of course. Companies always do that. Increased taxes or fees for them? Straight onto the customers, "because we're facing increasing costs we must sadly increase our prices". No way companies like these will abstain their profit margins.

 

[SmokedMeat]

We at Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo want to continue providing you with the best possible gaming experience. In an effort to curb unnecessary installations we're introducing our new digital install fees.

 

[LordCBH]

All 3 absolutely would pass the cost to the consumer.

 

[Portugeezer]

Or developers increase the prices themselves to offset. If they expect platform holders to pay then maybe they just work out a percentage and increase the royalties they take.

The fee is less than 0.3% of a $70 game.

They could increase the royalties to 30.3% rather than 30% on a full priced Unity game. Most are cheaper indies, so slightly higher percentage would be needed.

 

[Sushi_Combo]

Getting fucked by the sub price hikes weren't enough, let's do more!

 

[K2D]

That's a big what if.

Not a bigger ask than paying for playing online, but more annoying!

charge a small sum of money for additional install?

 

[proandrad]

Companies agreeing to pass on the cost to the players.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

Getting fucked by the sub price hikes weren't enough, let's do more!

We should all abandon the hobby and find some other coping mechanism. What about porn or alcohol abuse?

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

Too late, I already did:

 

[Fbh]

Honestly I don't see why Sony/MS/NIntendo would agree to pay the fee. It would also set a terrible precedent for other engines to start doing the same.

But if they do, yeah it will be passed on to the consumer.

 

[El Muerto]

Not at first, but Japanese gaming companies are greedy and will most likely start charging shortly after. Sony will probably be first, then Nintendo. And when the customers get upset over the fees Microsoft will weigh their options to either start charging too or just buy Unity.

 

[Topher]

Too late, I already did:

Turn controversy into a promo....

 

[Magic Carpet]

Will the Subscription serivces like Gamepass use it as a negotiating item? Put you game on Gamepass exclusive and we will pay the Unity costs.

 

[Clear]

Honestly I don't see why Sony/MS/NIntendo would agree to pay the fee. It would also set a terrible precedent for other engines to start doing the same.

But if they do, yeah it will be passed on to the consumer.

More likely it'll be deducted at source as part of the procurement costs and royalty payments. Why would any distributor pay twice for the same product?

 

[poppabk]

They won't pass the cost onto the consumer, are you crazy?

They will pass more than the cost to the consumer. If it costs them an extra dollar for each sub per month, then they will increase prices two dollars per month and Unity will take all the flack.

 

[Topher]

We should all abandon the hobby and find some other coping mechanism. What about porn or alcohol abuse?

Both are overrated. I mean.....so I've heard.

 

[Gojiira]

Simple facts, Unity is charging platform holders, shit rolls down hill, so platform holders will charge us.
So expect Unity games to cost slightly more on average.

 

[alstrike]

All them Unity games are not going to last on PS+

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

Platform holders are not going to pay. They just aren't. I don't think you realize how incensed they are about this.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

What in the history of Sony/MS/Nintendo makes you think they wouldn't pass the cost to consumers?

 

[TommyCronin6969]

Sony just raised the price of ps+ by 20-30% out of nowhere with no changes in its subscription for the player. What do you think they'll do if this goes through?

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

wrong post

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

Turn controversy into a promo....

Jokes on me, it does not sell

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Thread. Imagine a scenario where if the console makers agree to pay the new runtime fee to Unity, do you think they will absorb the fee, or pass the cost to the players by increasing the game price or charge a small sum of money for additional install?

Here OP. This just came in from the PlayStation Twitter account.

 

[SaucyJack]

Sony just raised the price of ps+ by 20-30% out of nowhere with no changes in its subscription for the player. What do you think they'll do if this goes through?

it wasn't out of nowhere. It followed shortly after Gamepass changes.

In an amazing coincidence, after bath sets of increases, the PlayStation plus prices look remarkably similar to Gamepass.

 

[cireza]

Only if you buy a Unity game.

 

[SaucyJack]

Here OP. This just came in from the PlayStation Twitter account.

Oh do fuck off.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Oh do fuck off.

Should I add an /s to make it more obvious?

 

[SaucyJack]

Should I add an /s to make it more obvious?

Nah, just refrain from posting un amusing shite.

It wasn't amusing the first time you posted it.

And to be clear, it was you rather than Jim Ryan that the fuck off was aimed at.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Nah, just refrain from posting un amusing shite.

It wasn't amusing the first time you posted it.

And to be clear, it was you rather than Jim Ryan that the fuck off was aimed at.

 

[Cert.in.Death]

Definitely not. They're stopgapping the transition because they recognize that subscription options are contrary to the revenue model the engine makers deployed. But eventually they'll stop paying.

 

[tmlDan]

Sony would rather ban all Unity games lol

 

[mitch1971]

What about porn or alcohol abuse?

 

[CoreyFlawless]

Think ppl just need to go ahead and shut down and delete any game they have that run unity. Cause last thing I need to start being charge, to redownload a game I already bought or something.