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[HeisenbergFX4]

Wait until you get on the r/GamingLeaksandRumours leaker tier list.

 

[Sooner]

I absolutely love mine. I use it daily.

 

[Xtib81]

Secret for what? Portal has now Equal to compare it to & the closest thing is Logitech G Cloud. It's been the number one accessory by revenue for the past year.

I don't know. I would like to know how many portals have been sold to this day before I can call it a success. Why don't they communicate about it?

 

[onQ123]

I don't know. I would like to know how many portals have been sold to this day before I can call it a success. Why don't they communicate about it?

It's an accessory that's being sold at profit while also getting more people to subscribe to PlayStation Plus & play their PS5 games more.

It's an success. Since release it's been the number one accessory by revenue.

LIke I said before it has no equal so how would you even be able assess it's qualifications for "Success" ?

You're gonna come up with a random number of units it needs to sale to be successful when you don't even have a reference point lol

 

[Kenneth Haight]

Love mine. Games of Balatro on boring ass conference calls in work are a god send.

 

[Giallo Corsa]

I'd like to get one again but, my main concern is those friggin analogue sticks - my almost 2 years old black Dualsense has drift on the right stick and I'd hate to encounter that on a 200€ console.

Does anyone know how many years of warranty this thing have in Europe ? Is it considered a controller (1year warranty) or a console (2 years) ?

 

[BlackTron]

It's the device I didn't know I wanted. None of the current portables are really portable these days, but at least this one is the most comfortable to hold. Holding a switch gives me cramps after a few minutes.

I don't like the stock config of either but one of them lets me change the controllers out to anything else I want and the other doesn't.

But yes, this is a Portal celebration thread. Well done Sony.

 

[Astray]

You're famous now my friend lol.

 

[Baemono]

I'd like to get one again but, my main concern is those friggin analogue sticks - my almost 2 years old black Dualsense has drift on the right stick and I'd hate to encounter that on a 200€ console.

Does anyone know how many years of warranty this thing have in Europe ? Is it considered a controller (1year warranty) or a console (2 years) ?

Everything in Europe is 2 years warranty, if the manufacturer only gives warranty for the first year, the second year is taken care of by the seller

 

[Baemono]

I don't know. I would like to know how many portals have been sold to this day before I can call it a success. Why don't they communicate about it?

I would guess that's because with no comparison point, people would take raw data they would provide and spin it as they want I guess.

Like "You said it was a success but you only sold 3 million units while there are 77 million PS5 shipped, so is it rather a flop instead ?"

 

[GoldenEye98]

Even if they put out dedicated handheld...I hope they continue with the Portal.

The cost/weight/battery advantage plus the fact that you are streaming a game running on a much more powerful piece of hardware than a dedicated handheld makes it the preferred option for some....

I'd take an updated portal with an OLED/120fps display streaming from an actual PS6 over a dedicated handheld that's barely doing PS5 games at 2-3X the cost(not to mention the storage factor). IMO that would be a superior experience at a lower cost outside of maybe travel scenarios.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

I'd like to get one again but, my main concern is those friggin analogue sticks - my almost 2 years old black Dualsense has drift on the right stick and I'd hate to encounter that on a 200€ console.

Does anyone know how many years of warranty this thing have in Europe ? Is it considered a controller (1year warranty) or a console (2 years) ?

My PS Portal came with a 2 year warranty (I'm from the EU). I have 200+ hours on it and so far so good. Hopefully it stays that way.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

You're famous now my friend lol.

 

[Giallo Corsa]

Everything in Europe is 2 years warranty, if the manufacturer only gives warranty for the first year, the second year is taken care of by the seller

Wait, what ?
Went to Sony's site, says that product is out of warranty, you mean to tell.me that if I take it back to GameStop they'll exchange it for a new one ?

 

[Baemono]

Wait, what ?
Went to Sony's site, says that product is out of warranty, you mean to tell.me that if I take it back to GameStop they'll exchange it for a new one ?

Yes. But first, they will gaslight you pretending it's not the case, not real, and only the manufacturer's warranty matters. And if you point out to the law that says so, they will say no, not applicable, you misunderstood, please go. Or to "offer you" to repair it but in exchange of money. They are trained to avoid admiting this. And to suggest you could've avoid this situation by subscribing to their warranty extension.

Legal warranty in Europe

Warranty rights are valid throughout the whole EU thanks to the Consumer Sales Directive. The application of this Directive has been updated and extended in all Member States as of January 01, 2022. In some points, the Directive only provides for minimum standards. However, the Member States are allowed to provide a higher level of protection for consumers.

Understanding these national differences is important when it comes to cross-border trade as, in general, sellers will tend to apply the legislation of their own country. Sometimes, it may also be the case that an explicit choice of law is made or that the law of the consumer's home country is applicable.

The main differences between the Member States (including Iceland and Norway) concern:

• The duration of the legal warranty
  The Directive offers a 2-year legal warranty, counted from the date when the product was delivered to the consumer. All EU countries have legally implemented a 2-year warranty. Some of them even apply a longer duration or refer to the expected lifespan of the product. In several Member States, the time limit is reduced for second-hand products but not less than 1 year.
• The deadline for the consumer to notify the seller of a defect or non-conformity
  The Directive permits Member States to impose a notification deadline, but it must not be shorter than 2 months. Many countries had decided not to adopt the firm time limit of 2 months, but the consumer should act within a reasonable time frame noticing the lack of conformity.
• The duration of the legal warranty after repair or replacement
  Some of the countries decided that during repair or replacement, the 2-year period is suspended and resumes as soon as the consumer receives the repaired or replaced product. In many countries, however, this rule does not apply.
• The burden of proof concerning the existence of a defect
  In principle, in any legal dispute, the party who is making a claim must provide evidence. Exceptionally, this burden of proof can be reversed. All Member States introduced this burden of proof reversal into their national laws in favour of consumers. Many Member States extended the 6-months duration and went beyond this (1 or 2 years). During this period, one assumes that the defect was already present from the beginning, which makes it easier for the buyer to make a complaint.
• The possibility for the seller to claim compensation
  Quite often a defect does not occur right away but only after the consumer has used the item for some time. If the item is replaced, the consumer receives a new item, which is to their advantage. Even though the Directive provides for the remedy to be free of charge, the seller may consider that this entitles them to a compensation. This issue is not covered by the Directive and Member States are therefore free to impose national rules. In some countries, the seller is allowed to ask for compensation for the time the consumer had use of an item that later turned out to be defective.

And this specifically what I am saying above:

In many cases, the seller redirects the consumer to the producer for the application of the legal warranty. However, consumers should be aware of the fact that it is the seller who is responsible for the application of the legal warranty.

What is the difference between legal warranty and commercial guarantee?

The legal warranty is your right to ask the trader to exchange or to repair a defective article you have purchased. The commercial guarantee is a voluntary service provided by the trader or the manufacturer of goods. Learn more now.

www.evz.de

 

[TheThreadsThatBindUs]

Sure about that? I don't think you can play purchased games without streaming directly from the console.

If they are available on the PSN+ streaming service you can. If they are not, I'm not sure. I haven't tried it, tbh

 

[manzo]

Great piece of equipment. Mostly used when the missus wants to watch shit from Netflix and I want to play, without having to kick her out of the living room.

 

[Kvally]

I would buy one if I could natively install games on it. It's a pretty sick device.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

You're famous now my friend lol.

 

[Boss Man]

I think price was a big factor. Low enough for many people to give it a try.

One thing I don't like about some of these mock ups, while they do look cool, is that one of the best aspects of PS Portal is its form factor. Simply being a screen taped to a regular controller makes it great to hold.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

More confirmation on the Sony handheld

 

[Kadve]

You're famous now my friend lol.

Honestly from what i understand the Portal is basically a low end Android tablet. You can probably get it to run stuff of its own if one wants to.

 

[Astray]

More confirmation on the Sony handheld

I think this thing will surprise some by how much traction it will get.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I think this thing will surprise some by how much traction it will get.

To me seems like they are prepping sooner rather than later vs a timeline some have heard, plus the fact the title of the video says PS5 handheld

 

[Astray]

To me seems like they are prepping sooner rather than later vs a timeline some have heard, plus the fact the title of the video says PS5 handheld

Yep, now that Xbox is largely dealt with as a console brand they want to shift their attention to handheld again.

You can even see this from their SoP, no one brings back Lumines for the home console crowd, that game is made for handheld above all else!

 

[Mibu no ookami]

More confirmation on the Sony handheld

I thought this was something new, wasn't there a whole thread on this?

 

[MicTyson]

I always thought this thing was ghey. Make a real handheld.

 

[Jesb]

A handheld makes too much sense. Everyone wants in on it now. I could honestly see that take over my gaming now. I actually just ordered a steamdeck and it's all I will need until the next one.

 

[Kokoloko85]

Sold mine after 2 months. Absolute Garbage for traveling, which is the main point for portables. Not to play it at home….

Out of the 10+ hotels Ive stayed at in those 2 months, only 2 were able to play it and most of them had good internet.
Give me an offline PS portable any day

If Sony dont put out or announce an offline PSP in the next couple of years then Ill be buying a Steamdeck 2 or equivilent.
Laptop and Switch 2 will do for now on travels I guess

 

[MicTyson]

A handheld makes too much sense. Everyone wants in on it now. I could honestly see that take over my gaming now. I actually just ordered a steamdeck and it's all I will need until the next one.

Ya, if Sony makes a handheld that plays dumbed down PS6 games, I would probably buy one as long as it's reasonably priced.

The coolest thing Sony could do to make their handheld stand apart from the rest is have it play PS6 games and also make an exclusive game here and there for the handheld. I know that won't happen but it would be cool if it got some exclusive games.

If the handheld isn't for PS6 and plays PS5 and lower, it's a hard pass for me. I can already play everything PlayStation has to offer on my Steam Deck up until the PS5 and even some of those games are playable.

 

[Mozza]

They will definitely be making a ps5 or ps6 portable.

Or another portal.

 

[ProtoByte]

A handheld makes too much sense. Everyone wants in on it now. I could honestly see that take over my gaming now. I actually just ordered a steamdeck and it's all I will need until the next one.

Yeah, 5 million people is everyone bro. Totally. Totally worth kneecapping the next 10 years of gaming for you to play vidya under the sheets.

 

[TheThreadsThatBindUs]

Yeah, 5 million people is everyone bro. Totally. Totally worth kneecapping the next 10 years of gaming for you to play vidya on the crapper.

FTFY

 

[Paasei]

Hopefully this means a real handheld will return from Sony. You know, one that plays games on its own.

 

[Boss Mog]

I just like the crazy concept. Gamers HATE cloud gaming.. so Sony creates a device that makes you cloud in cloud gaming.

I wouldn't exactly call it cloud gaming. Most people use this in their home on the same home network as their PS5, there's almost zero latency. I don't have one but the people I know who do, mostly use it at home because there's competition to use the TV the PS5 is hooked up to.

Using it far from home via the internet is often more miss than hit. These aren't super fast cloud servers, it's still just your PS5.

 

[Jesb]

Yeah, 5 million people is everyone bro. Totally. Totally worth kneecapping the next 10 years of gaming for you to play vidya under the sheets.

I was more talking about how everyone wants in on it meaning Nintendo, Microsoft, Sony and Steam. Sony isn't just gonna ignore it.

 

[Jesb]

Ya, if Sony makes a handheld that plays dumbed down PS6 games, I would probably buy one as long as it's reasonably priced.

The coolest thing Sony could do to make their handheld stand apart from the rest is have it play PS6 games and also make an exclusive game here and there for the handheld. I know that won't happen but it would be cool if it got some exclusive games.

If the handheld isn't for PS6 and plays PS5 and lower, it's a hard pass for me. I can already play everything PlayStation has to offer on my Steam Deck up until the PS5 and even some of those games are playable.

I don't see that happening without sacrificing the power of PS6. I don't see them doing what Nintendo does. It'll be PS5 level power with remote play and cloud functionality to play PS6 games. I don't know how they're going to market both in tandem if they are two separate devices which it's looking to be the case though. I think their best bet would be to release the handheld next year and PS6 2028. That would give the handheld two years of head room. I think if they release both too close it could go really bad for them.

 

[Sharius]

i bought ps vita and playstation TV day 1 and i have no desire to buy this piece of junk, you literally pay money for something that your PC and phone did for years