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[Vieo]

If you woke up tomorrow only to find out that the world was being attacked by zombies, who do you think would win?

Keep these rules in mind:
-The zombies work just like in the movies. You have to destroy the brain to kill them.
-Animals can become zombies too.
-Just like in the movies, if you get bit, you'll eventually turn into one.
-The zombies are slow when they walk, but they can't feel pain.

As for how many of them there are to start with? One for every grave on the planet.

EDIT: Ok, no fast zombies.

 

[ConfusingJazz]

-The ones that have been brought back from the dead are slow, but newly zombified humans are as fast as they were when they were alive.

Unless you change this stupid rule, I refuse to be a part of this discussion. The fast zombie idea sucks and wish it to burn in hell.

 

[ArcadeStickMonk]

Unless you change this stupid rule, I refuse to be a part of this discussion. The fast zombie idea sucks and wish it to burn in hell.

Somebody got owned by crimson heads in REmake

 

[Suerte]

WINNAR.

 

[ConfusingJazz]

Somebody got owned by crimson heads in REmake

Nah, just a zombie purist. The rules of zombiehood were firmly established by 1970, and one of the prime rules is that zombies are slow and go 'UHHHHHHHHH' a lot.

 

[AntoneM]

The living would beat the the living hell out of the undead. We've got all the weapons!

 

[White Man]

As for how many of them there are to start with? One for every grave on the planet. O_

Well, the world would be flooded by zombies then. If there's one zombie for every corpse on earth, there'd be more dead folks walking than there would be living. Zombies +1

 

[Suerte]

If it's a virus though then only the living get infected so no already dead people should come back to life, but it all depends on which film you're basing it on really.

 

[Ecrofirt]

Nuclear weapons + underground bunker = win

 

[Suerte]

Waaaah I can't wait for George Romero's Land of the Dead now, HE SHALL LET US KNOW WHO WINS!

Also, the thing with a nuclear bomb, isn't the majority of its effect in poisoning people with radiation? That wouldn't be directly destroying the brain would it?

 

[Baron Aloha]

Well, the world would be flooded by zombies then. If there's one zombie for every corpse on earth, there'd be more dead folks walking than there would be living. Zombies +1

Incorrect. There are more people alive today than people who have ever lived in the past. So even if every dead person came back they would still be out numbered by the living. Then of course theres the issue of decomposure. The vast majority of the dead couldn't come back because they would be so decomposed that they wouldn't have any brains left.

To the first poster:

1. Animals can't become zombies.

2. If its slow zombies the human beings would win. Any fool could outrun them. And if you are stupid enough to get caught by them you deserve to get bit/die IMO.

3. If its fast zombies the humans beings are fucked. It would spread too fast. Maybe if it was just a single outbreak you could stop it but it'd still be tough.

 

[ConfusingJazz]

Waaaah I can't wait for George Romero's Land of the Dead now, HE SHALL LET US KNOW WHO WINS!

Or just blow a whole bunch of money on unnecessary shit, get divorced from his 18 year old hungarian wife, and produce an utter piece of crap of a zombie game.

 

[White Man]

2. There are more people alive today than people who have ever lived in the past. So even if every dead person came back they would still be out numbered by the living. Then of course theres the issue of decomposure. The vast majority of the dead couldn't come back because they would be so decomposed that they wouldn't have any brains left.

You, my friend, are incorrect.

http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/dead.htm

(Only link I could find. . .for more information, just check just about any book on historical anthropology, particularly Jared Diamond's Gun, Germs and Steel.)

 

[DarthWoo]

Here's a question I like to ask sometimes:

Would you rather be stuck in a Racoon City-esque (lots of zombies) situation in your nearest city, or in more of a Silent Hill scenario? (not so many zombies, but much freaky stuff meant to screw with your mind)

 

[Baron Aloha]

You, my friend, are incorrect.

http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/dead.htm

(Only link I could find. . .for more information, just check just about any book on historical anthropology, particularly Jared Diamend's Gun, Germs and Steel.)

Well I'll be damned then. But those estimates do seem rather high. 60 billion? That seems a bit much considering how low the world's population was before the industrial revolution. Then again people used to die faster so it might be correct.

We'd still outnumber the zombies though.

 

[White Man]

Enough sources have stated it that I'll believe. If anyone were brave enough to do the math with, say Matlhus' (flawed) theorem of exponential population growth with a time frame of roughly 40-60k years, we'd have a close enough answer for our zombie discussion. Use the numbers 6.25-7 billion as a starting point for total world population.

Anyay, even if we go by the argument lack of brain == no zombies, we're ignoring any and all mummified corpses. The mummified may be a minority in the zombie demographic, but surely they'd have some sort of numeric representation. Also, how long does it take for brain matter to decompose? How much brain matter must remain for a zombie to rise?

 

[GDGF]

Slow moving zombies suck. I'd dance around them nekkid while slicing their heads off with a Civil War era officer's sabre.

Gimmie fast moving 28 Days Later virus born hyper zombies for any kind of challenge.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

The living. People have already given the best reasons: advantage of numbers to begin with, smarts, weaponry. And most of the potential non-rotten zombies we don't have to worry about, unless these slow fools can dig out from under several feet of soil.

If the zombies get the advantage of surprise, they might have a good start on "converting" people. However, soon it'll be blasted all across the news channels, millions of people with guns will be able to defend themselves and start weeding them out. Even if the zombies manage to get a huge advantage, there will still be enough people in amazingly fortified areas to wait it out, and I doubt they'll all be so poorly prepared as in Day of the Dead.

Or just blow a whole bunch of money on unnecessary shit, get divorced from his 18 year old hungarian wife, and produce an utter piece of crap of a zombie game.

Wrong Romero (though I think you realize this).

 

[yoshifumi]

if zombies were to attack tomorrow, while everyone else was out fighting zombies, i'd be out looting. and when the humans emerged victorious, everyone's life would be in ruins, and i'd be rich.

 

[Matlock]

Just give me two shotguns, two machetes, and a chainsaw.

 

[shuri]

Nuclear weapons + underground bunker = win

We all know what happened to the people who thought that would be a good idea in Day of the Dead.

The world wouldnt stand a chance of survival if we were infected by fast moving zombies. We would be overrun in matters of weeks. Let's not forget that the zombies in 28 Days Later could get tired and lose their breath, and also they would eventually die of the lack of real food and water. Let's not forget that the zombies owned the soldiers at the end of 28DL, and they were well armed and prepared. Civilians woulndt stand a chance, especially since the transformation time was really quick, aka about a minute or so.

A single, small bite in 28DL would turn you into a zombie in less than a minute.

While the slow moving zombies of Night, Dawn 1979 and Day never died from thirst or lack of food, but the transformation took at least a day for a regular bite. Of course Flyboy gets turned zombie pretty fast, but he did get gangraped in the elevator

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

We all know what happened to the people who thought that would be a good idea in Day of the Dead.

Yeah, but this time we'd exclude military men who would also be avid fans of The Guy Game.

The world wouldnt stand a chance of survival if we were infected by fast moving zombies. We would be overrun in matters of weeks.

Agreed... well, again except for a few extremely isolated places which could be made safe.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

While the slow moving zombies of Night, Dawn 1979 and Day never died from thirst or lack of food, but the transformation took at least a day for a regular bite. Of course Flyboy gets turned zombie pretty fast, but he did get gangraped in the elevator

Spoiler

Spoiler for a nearly 30 year old movie, yeah, but I prefer caution. Well, yeah, the guy in the elevator started getting eaten up and died right quick, making him prime for undying. One bite alone takes a while to kill a person, though.

 

[Son of Godzilla]

Whiteman: He says graves. Hallowbethyname only.

Also, can anyone answer this. How do zombies know where humans are? Do they have blood seeking radar or something? What's to stop people from living on top of a building?

Anyways, slow zombies = scary, fast zombies = funny.

 

[Kuroyume]

Americans shouldn't have any problems because we have so many weapons, but Europe would probably be screwed.

 

[White Man]

Whiteman: He says graves. Hollow ground only.

Out of curiosity, where is this covered in zombie mythology? And do you mean 'hallowed' ground, as in blessed? I was unaware that pandemic zombie-raising disorders, afflictions, and situations paid attention to religious burial rites.

 

[Son of Godzilla]

I meant hollow. Holey.

Actually I'm not sure. I was just following the original poster, but I'm more than certain a few zombies have come from Indian Burial Grounds (IBG for short).

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Also, can anyone answer this. How do zombies know where humans are? Do they have blood seeking radar or something? What's to stop people from living on top of a building?

Same way anything else knows there's a human around, I guess. See them nearby, hear activity in a building. But other than that, sure it should be possible to find a decent safe spot if you can lose one. The only problem with living on top of a building (or better a hard-to-access upper floor) would be really the eventual need to resupply.

 

[bjork]

:casts Life on zombies:

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

I meant hollow. Holey.

That's actually pretty funny. Hollow and holey could be seen as meaning about the same thing... as can hallow and holy, which is what it sounds like you mean by context.

 

[shuri]

Whiteman: He says graves. Hallowbethyname only.

Also, can anyone answer this. How do zombies know where humans are? Do they have blood seeking radar or something?

Well according to the decapitated talking female zombie in Return of the living dead, , zombies crave flesh because it seems that its the only thing that can calm the pain of being .. you know, decapitated, missing limbs, and so on , for a few moments, and then its on with the hunt for more human flesh again. They can smell the living

As for going to the top of the building, the zombies would eventually climb up there, and you risk running out of food and water pretty quickly.

But as we learned from every zombie movies, and I think that's the general message, is that humans shouldnt be afraid of zombies, but rather be sacred of the human nature, since a scared, hungry, stressed out guy with a gun and a serious case of paranoia is much more dangerous than a horde of zombies, fast or slow

 

[ThirstyFly]

http://freespace.virgin.net/yuki.eiri/shaun1.jpg

I demand a desktop sized version of this image!

 

[GDGF]

Shit. I just realized there would be both pirates and ninjas amongst those zombies. We're screwed.

 

[BuddyC]

Romero's Land of the Living Dead will take an interesting direction though,

Spoiler

namely zombies evolving and getting smarter.

So I don't know if that really answers the question or just sidesteps it.

 

[explodet]

If the zombies attacked tomorrow, humanity would eventually prevail.

I personally, however, would most likely become zombie chow.

 

[Matlock]

Romero's Land of the Living Dead will take an interesting direction though,

Spoiler

namely zombies evolving and getting smarter.

So I don't know if that really answers the question or just sidesteps it.

Spoiler

That was in Day of the Dead, with Bub.

 

[Phoenix]

Humans - easily. Zombies can't swim - ballistic missle submarines would own. Then the few surviving humans on earth would kill themselves off over the last loaf of wheat bread. Shortly thereafter, the crew from the space station would repopulate the earth (which is why I continue to lobby for at least 2 fine women and one known fertile man at all times on the space station)

 

[UltimateMarioMan]

Things would go crazy at first but once their weakness became know it wouldn't take long before the military overcame the zombie hordes. Now if it was a Raccoon City scenario fast zombie dogs and various animal mutations enter the picture making it much harder to turn things around.

 

[Guzim]

Zombies can't swim

But they do fight sharks!

 

[Cimarron]

Humans - easily. Zombies can't swim - ballistic missle submarines would own. Then the few surviving humans on earth would kill themselves off over the last loaf of wheat bread. Shortly thereafter, the crew from the space station would repopulate the earth (which is why I continue to lobby for at least 2 fine women and one known fertile man at all times on the space station)

^^ IAWTP

Of course humanity would eventually prevail. We haven't always been on top of the food chain you know. Take mice. Just about everything loves to eat mice (including some humans) Yet they still survive even thrive. I would like to think that our species have better survival skills as a whole than rodents.

 

[way more]

Humans - easily. Zombies can't swim - ballistic missle submarines would own. Then the few surviving humans on earth would kill themselves off over the last loaf of wheat bread. Shortly thereafter, the crew from the space station would repopulate the earth (which is why I continue to lobby for at least 2 fine women and one known fertile man at all times on the space station)

I think the ratio should be 1 man to 10 women. I also think humans would kick-ass against the undead, I just hope it happens in my lifetime.

 

[Ecrofirt]

I asked my friend, and he had some very good ideas:

Friend: depends.
Friend: if it was an isolated case with a small number of zombies, and was put down within a good amount of time without a chance for the infection to spread, we may be able to put it down
Friend: otherwise, zombies win.
Me: why?
Friend: if the zombies are allowed to spread the infection and their numbers are allowed to grow out of control, there's no way there'd be enough manpower to to quell their swelling force. also keep in mind that in the apocalyptic zombie scenario, most of the world would basically shut down; no more factories producing goods, which means things like guns and ammunition become a commodity, and are inevitably going to be lost during battles with the undead menace
Friend: in the end, there won't be enough humans left to pose a significant threat to the zombies, let alone stay alive and keep themselves safe

 

[MrPing1000]

all u need is a suit of armour, the fuckers can't bite u go medieval on their asses with a big sword

 

[UltimateMarioMan]

I asked my friend, and he had some very good ideas:

Friend: depends.
Friend: if it was an isolated case with a small number of zombies, and was put down within a good amount of time without a chance for the infection to spread, we may be able to put it down
Friend: otherwise, zombies win.
Me: why?
Friend: if the zombies are allowed to spread the infection and their numbers are allowed to grow out of control, there's no way there'd be enough manpower to to quell their swelling force. also keep in mind that in the apocalyptic zombie scenario, most of the world would basically shut down; no more factories producing goods, which means things like guns and ammunition become a commodity, and are inevitably going to be lost during battles with the undead menace
Friend: in the end, there won't be enough humans left to pose a significant threat to the zombies, let alone stay alive and keep themselves safe

I'm sure the governments of the world have enough conventional weapons and ammo stored to kill everyone on earth 10 times over.

 

[White Man]

I'm sure the governments of the world have enough conventional weapons and ammo stored to kill everyone on earth 10 times over.

Nobody is taking into account the folks making up the good ol' lunatic fringe (which I probably would lead). In the event of a zombie apocalypse, I'd be up for exploiting other scared folks for my own personal gain. As somebody above said, one of the prime factors in the classic zombie flicks is how people turn against each other. Nobody is taking that into account. The zombies are practically a macguffin.

 

[J2 Cool]

it would become a war played on whatever field the virus originates at. If we beat the nazi's meanwhile we could beat zombies. They're best weapon is their friggin teeth. It'd be chaos at first like any declaration of war but once we become organized it's a zombie's bite vs. US artillery and specially trained soldiers. We could even just find higher ground and laugh at the zombies try to open doors and climb. No contest. pick a head off at a time. And if you could target the exact area they're at just constantly bomb it. Again, no contest

 

[J2 Cool]

if zombies were to attack tomorrow, while everyone else was out fighting zombies, i'd be out looting. and when the humans emerged victorious, everyone's life would be in ruins, and i'd be rich.

Batman would stop you

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

it would become a war played on whatever field the virus originates at.

Hmm, that's a good point. I was presuming it would be an all-of-a-sudden worldwide phenomenon... but if it were to, say, start out in a more primitive or tribal area of the world, the zombies could get a good head start and surprise an urban area with more than just a few.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

I thought I read over the whole thread... but I guess I missed where it talked about animal zombies. In that case, I really think we'd be screwed. I mean, human zombies are fairly easy to see, and thus avoid or kill. But if we're talking all the other life on the planet, that increases the number of zombies by a few... millionfold, billionfold? I don't even know. Who's going to be able to stop themselves from getting infected by a zombie mosquito or mouse or bird in the long run?

 

[Outdoor Miner]

all u need is a suit of armour, the fuckers can't bite u go medieval on their asses with a big sword

Damn. A real life MMO. Except we level on zombs instead of rats/rabbits/boars.


Sweet.


Edit- Ooops, didn't realize we'd be fighting animals as well. Holy holy a REAL MMO then. Dibs on the OMG_WTFPWN_U namesake.