That's because Wii Sports exist, pretty much shot up the Wii as one of the highest selling consoles of all time. I doubt a similar IP will be put on Cafe, and I doubt Skyward Sword will be delayed for over a whole year even though it's pretty much close to being finished.TekkenMaster said:
IGN Posts Up More Project Cafe Hardware Power Rumors
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TekkenMaster said:
Thats because it was released nearly a month prior at the Wii's launch. In this case SS will release on the Wii half a year in advance of the Cafe, therefore most of the sales will be on that platform. Unless your saying Nintendo would delay SS until around the launch time of the Cafe?
Again I dont think the HD upgrade is out of the question, but I dont see it being a launch title.
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Big One said:
Delay would be only half a year if Cafe comes out in May/June 2012.
AceBandage
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Unless Nintendo has something just as big for their holiday title on the Wii, it isn't happening.
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Amir0x said:
Byakuya769 said:
Shit like this.
Hiro said:
Though far less crazy, this too.
Mr_Brit said:
Every single Wii 2 rumor thread has the same people talking about how this is going to be so weak compared to the PS4/720 because MS and Sony are going to do things that aren't possible/feasible. I mean shit have you read any of the posts by Hiro in this thread or any of the others? People aren't referencing Nano technologies in reply to him for no reason.
When you have folks who know much more about this stuff, dispelling them in thread after thread, it becomes like Baghdad Bob. That in face of the facts are still convinced that next gen consoles from MS/Sony are going to have 580's, 4 gigs of ram, and be running Samaritan.
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From The Dust said:
Who's to say that that's not exactly what they have been doing for the last year or so?
And why would them showing a new trailer for the version we know about for the console we own, mean that they couldn't be working on a version for a previously unannounced console that they plan to show us @ E3?
Does Link's Crossbow Training mean nothing to you?
AceBandage
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Shin Johnpv said:
To be fair... Hiro is a joke character.
That's doubtful but you could continue holding onto your hopes if you wish. Whether Skyward Sword comes onto Cafe eventually is debatable, but it's still going to be released on the Wii this year. There is absolutely no reason to dual-release it to Cafe from a sales-standpoint or from a standpoint of pleasing gamers who have been waiting for a console Zelda for around 5 years now. The game is pretty much close to being finished, also. There is also going to be a series of games released every month from NoJ from Nintendo to finish off the Wii starting with Pandora's Tower this year and Skyward Sword is a part of this.TekkenMaster said:
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antonz said:
The Xbox 1, PS3 and 360 all used current gen gpus available when the console came out.
The PS4 isn't expected to come out until 2014. Using something based on a 7XXX series in 2014 isn't unreasonable.
Guys, guys, guys...Can we stop talking about stuff that will never happen like SS being a Cafe launch game and return to the complete, and utterly useless speculation about the power of the Cafe, its system features, Nintendo-Steam partnership, and how the Cafe will still lose to Microsoft and Sony because that's how Nintendo rolls, please?
AceBandage
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artwalknoon said:
So...
You'll be able access Mii Plaza on the controller and interact with friends as your Mii at any time, even during gameplay.
Thoughts?
Instro said:
It really isn't, though.
This isn't even close to the TP situation, where it was easily portable.
SS would need to be completely reworked for Cafe. Not just graphically, but the entire game would have to be redone for dual analog controls.
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ReyVGM said:
It still blows my mind how Nintendo was able to do this in the early 90's.
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It was pretty bad at first, but it's calmed down quite a bit since then and the discussion has definitely moved to a better place. It's a lot easier to avoid all of that nonsense if the other manufacturers are just not mentioned in this thread.Shin Johnpv said:
Techinically it could still work off the Wii Controller. It's still easily portable, just not showing off the Cafe's capabilities beyond HD.AceBandage said:
I don't think it would be a major Wii release, just another option and purely just an upgrade to HD hopefully for the same price. Typing that made me realize the games are likely going to be 60 bucks which is depressing.
Why on Earth would you think that Cafe would ever arrive at Scenario 5? Absolutely nothing we've read in any seemingly credible rumor source has even hinted at such a thing. The best we've seen anyone say (IGN in this case) is that it would be "significantly" more powerful than the PS360. Now, my interpretation of "significantly" may be different than yours, but I never took that to mean an entire generational leap from the PS360. After the Wii, my expectations may be pitifully low, so the fact that some are saying that Cafe would be even 3-4 times more powerful than the PS360 absolutely blows my mind.
The only way that I could except scenario 5 happening is that it won't be the result of Nintendo going the extra mile, but rather Sony and MS going back one. I have no clue what MS is doing (even rumor-wise), but at least for Sony, I don't see them taking a more conservative approach after coming out with the NGP.
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Question: Why would IGN use a video card with 1GB VRAM in addition to two gigs of system RAM? Doesn't that bring the total for their system up to 3 GB? Seems a bit high if they are reporting that 1 GB is the likely total amount even taking to account Windows 7...
I personally hope for 1.5 gigs GDDR5 along with 20 MB eDRAM. I'm sure devs are pushing for more RAM, so maybe around E3, Nintendo will finally cave ala MS with the 360.
I personally hope for 1.5 gigs GDDR5 along with 20 MB eDRAM. I'm sure devs are pushing for more RAM, so maybe around E3, Nintendo will finally cave ala MS with the 360.
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Fourth Storm said:
I doubt IGN has much insight into the actual components of the Cafe. They were being given rough estimates from developers.
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Compared to Wii, getting "non-default" PS3 type sales for the big multiplatform games would generally be a pretty good improvement.seady said:
bgassassin said:
Wind Waker was about 1.5. Skyward Sword might be about the same, unless we count that single piece of artwork from 2009 as its announcement.bgassassin said:
Bisnic said:
Not quite. The 4 NES Mario games were available on Virtual Console. The SNES remake containing all of them wasn't, and that's what they released on a Wii disc.Krawlman said:
Sammy Samusu
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All I know is I want Mario Kart Cafe to support 16 players locally.
Anything less won't please me.
Anything less won't please me.
bgassassin
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Sneaky Gato said:
Nintendo almost "invented the Internet" in the 80s.
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Sammy Samusu said:
On a single system? Not gonna happen. Bluetooth just doesn't have that capability.
bgassassin said:
Al Gore worked for Nintendo?
:O
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Oblivion said:
I agree the cafe almost certainly won't be scenario 5 but the GAF consensus RE: NGP is that it is quite conservative.
Only the screen is bleeding edge.
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Just goes to show that you can never rely on technology, a mess.AceBandage said:
But what would be the maximum? Eight?
AceBandage
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Sammy Samusu said:
Technically, Bluetooth can support up to 8, though 7 is more stable, I believe.
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AceBandage said:
What if there were two Bluetooth receivers in the console? Or is that some sort of fatal misunderstanding of how Bluetooth works?
AceBandage
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Actually, I'm not sure about that.
I think there would be some bad interference though.
I think there would be some bad interference though.
Sohter.Nura
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I really hope this doesn't turn out to be another "Dreamcast", where when the next Sony and Microsoft consoles come around, they trump to Cafe all together.
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I'm just trying to imagine: what if Ninty had plugged all leaks for like an extra 2 months and announced and shown and demoed the Wii 2, cold, by total surprise... That will never happen at an E3, will it?
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AceBandage said:
He had to have been there. And now they've gone from doing that to having the worst online setup of the three, if from nothing more than being overprotective through friend codes.
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GAF A60-Rim A said:
Not anymore.
Sohter.Nura said:
I dont think it would be that bad of a situation, considering how well Nintendo did with the Wii. At the very least they would have good year or 2 as the top dog console.
Anyway on the subject of bluetooth, wasnt it mentioned on here that bluetooth might not be fast enough to handle streaming games to the controller or something? Is that TransferJet tech a better option if available?
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I'm starting to believe that split memory pools might be better. I wish I knew how much GDDR5 and DDR3 wholesaled for. I get the impression that that for the cost of a gig of GDDR5, they could get 768mb of GDDR5 and a gig of DDR3 for the system memory, but in truth I really have no idea.AceBandage said:
shadyspace
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If Cafe is Nintendo's Dreamcast it won't end up like the real Dreamcast. They're a competent company.
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