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[HeWhoWalks]

I didn't insinuate otherwise, nor did I even mention it.

Wow the rush to "but sales!" is really strong in la familia huh

What was your need to come a thread about sales to give your opinion on what your favorite piece of plastic does better than its closest competitor? What relevance does it have?

 

[Xbox 360 slim]

What was your need to come a thread about sales to give your opinion on what your favorite piece of plastic does better than its closest competitor? What relevance does it have?

I guess the same reason you've been defending your favorite piece of plastic for 11 years.

 

[Little Chicken]

YES, you. You're a cringy dipshit everyone makes fun of.

Don't know/care

 

[Little Chicken]

What was your need to come a thread about sales to give your opinion on what your favorite piece of plastic does better than its closest competitor? What relevance does it have?

My initial post was that the Series X is just a better console regardless of sales.

 

[HeWhoWalks]

I guess the same reason you've been defending your favorite piece of plastic for 11 years.

Coming from a guy who named himself after his favorite piece of plastic, that’s pretty funny.

Still waiting on those supposed NVIDIA fanboys who wanted AMD to die, btw.

 

[GHG]

Little Chicken really went to the streets and called for backup.

 

[Xbox 360 slim]

Coming from a guy who named himself after his favorite piece of plastic, that’s pretty funny.

Still waiting on those supposed NVIDIA fanboys who wanted AND to die, btw.

Ok, I named myself after my favorite console, you've been shilling for a japanese conglomerate for a decade. I guess we all have our flaws.

 

[HeWhoWalks]

My initial post was that the Series X is just a better console regardless of sales.

I get that, but why did your opinion of it matter in the face of a 5:1 unit discrepancy? You presented things that were arguable in the face of a fact. That was the point.

 

[Danknugz]

it's all been downhill since they axed killer instinct... coincidence?

 

[HeWhoWalks]

Ok, I named myself after my favorite console, you've been shilling for a japanese conglomerate for a decade. I guess we all have our flaws.

Thus, your flaws are 1:1 with others’ flaws?

I get that your feelings were hurt because you were questioned (and continue to ignore said question), but admitting to being a hypocrite while doing so remains the perfect comedic cue.

 

[Xbox 360 slim]

Thus, your flaws are 1:1 with others’ flaws?

I get that your feelings were hurt because you were questioned (and continue to ignore said question), but admitting to being a hypocrite while doing so continues to be the perfect comedic cue.

Don't forget to put your PS logo snapback on, before you head out, pimp. And no, I'm not digging through r/nvidia posts to show you.

I named myself after my favorite CONSOLE. Not my favorite company. Unlike you, not 1:1 at all.

 

[Little Chicken]

I get that, but why did your opinion of it matter in the face of a 5:1 unit discrepancy? You presented things that were arguable in the face of a fact. That was the point.

It was in response to this diabolical comment:

The reality is they should have offered a better product for the last 20 years.

And I guess that snowballed into me being correct

 

[Xbox 360 slim]

It was in response to this diabolical comment:



And I guess that snowballed into me being correct

The toyota corola is a better vehicle than the cadillac escalade, sales charts, bro.

 

[HeWhoWalks]

Don't forget to put your PS logo snapback on, before you head out, pimp.

Outside of this thread, I have no clue who you are. But obviously, your feelings are hurt. So, keep this up! It offers entertainment while boredom persists at work.

Any answers on the fanboys, or was that just a carefully curated lie?

 

[Little Chicken]

Little Chicken really went to the streets and called for backup.

 

[yurinka]

Let's discuss that qoute

PlayStation Facing No Threat Of Users Switching To PC, Says Sony

PlayStation does not see PC gaming as a current threat to its console sales despite releasing first-party offerings on the platform.

tech4gamers.com

No current threat of switching to pc. Where did they say that pc is not a competition. Also the same article mentions. That they are trying to entice pc players to consoles. Why do you think the concern was raised by shareholders? Why do you think they are trying to entice another platforms users?. Because pc and ps are competitors who are fighting over the same userbase. That qoute only proved my point.

Nishino, Hermen and Totoki mentioned that PC isn't causing cannibalization, but instead is helping them to grow and see it as a growth opportunity. The shareholder or journalist who asked about it pretty likely wasn't aware of the related metrics that explain it:

Having record PS MAU proves their userbase is growing, so they aren't losing users. They also shown that over 40% of PS5 purchasers are new to PS.

Jim Ryan mentioned when talking about their GaaS push (which includes PC as an important part of it) that they expected that it was going to help them double their first party revenue from March 2021 to March 2026. They apparently are achieving that a year before scheduled, even if some of these dozen GaaS will be released later than originally planned and some of them will be released after March 2026, the original deadline they had for them.

They also mentioned that are expanding to PC (and in the future mobile too) mainly to reach a way bigger market where there are a ton of players who never would buy a console (specially in strategical countries like China or Korea), so they plan to monetize these players there. Their main goal with expanding to PC or mobile isn't to convert all these players to consoles even if a small part of them do. Their strategy is to make more money by reaching more players.

 

[Xbox 360 slim]

Outside of this thread, I have no clue who you are. But obviously, your feelings are hurt. So, keep this up! It offers entertainment while boredom persists at work.

Any answers on the fanboys, or was that just a carefully curated lie?

Do you have 'spergers?

 

[HeWhoWalks]

It was in response to this diabolical comment:



And I guess that snowballed into me being correct

What makes you correct?

 

[HeWhoWalks]

Little Chicken really went to the streets and called for backup.

Particularly funny when said backup continues to deny it!

Ah, I see now. Just “joined” a little over 6 months ago. Probably just someone’s drunk alt.

 

[Synastry]

Particularly funny when said backup continues to deny it!

Ah, I see now. Just “joined” a little over 6 months ago. Probably just someone’s drunk alt.

Remember the DM I send you.

 

[HeWhoWalks]

Remember the DM I send you.

Yup! All coming full circle!

I knew something looked familiar, particularly a certain “style”.

 

[Xbox 360 slim]

Yup! All coming full circle!

We're part of the Xbox illuminati. Now, get in the PC or else!

 

[TrippleA345]

 

[Little Chicken]

What makes you correct?

I'm the most impartial user on NeoGAF.

 

[HeWhoWalks]

I'm the most impartial user on NeoGAF.

Alright Chicken, I’ll give you this one!

 

[XXL]

Nowhere in my post did I mention sales.

Ok so why (in your opinion) is the PS5 literally obliterating the Series consoles in console sales?

 

[RetroGamingUK]

The console brand you first played as a kid in 1995, "won".

You got ridiculed for this, and I agree for the most part.

However you’re onto something, to an extent.

We are going through a HUGE 90s nostalgia boom at the moment as millennials hit a mid-life crisis and have disposable incomez

Just look at how many remakes we’re seeing of PS1 games right now, 90s boy bands are reforming and we’ve got new movies based on 90s franchises too.

Xbox will never see nostalgia bumps of this magnitude, PlayStation will have many more to come over the decades.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Nvidia has no comp, they're basically a monopoly on high end GPU's, And it's a disaster. But sony fanboys still cheer for this same thing, to happen in the console space. Hey, who cares if you're paying 800-900 dollars for a console? The console brand you first played as a kid in 1995, "won".

The better product line/s won.

 

[FrankWza]

Xbox Series X is better than the PS5 in specs, connectivity, functionality, services, software, etc..

The fact that you're comparing xbox pro console to Playstations lower end says it all.

 

[Felessan]

My whole point is saying fanboys who want the other "side" to die off, are idiots.

Me wants MS console business to die, it creates more harm than good, and MS long overstayed in this business
People who only know how to sprout "competiotion this, competition that" are idiots. Who don't know how discern healthy competition from unhealthy one (and MS is notorious in trying to push unhealthy one any time it enters the market). What is long term consequences of price wars even though it so lucrative for consumers "right now" etc. There is no free lunch - high competition has it pros, in the same time it has it's own cons.

 

[Schmendrick]

What do you suggest?

Everyone needs to run out and buy an Xbox because they feel bad for them?

Its like you're trying to shame people into supporting them.

This is so pathetic...it's not even fucking funny.

The reality is they should have offered a better product for the last 20 years.

They didn't.

When you quote stuff you should write something that has anything to do with what you quoted instead of some insanely stupid rambling about imaginary things

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Me wants MS console business to die, it creates more harm than good, and MS long overstayed in this business
People who only know how to sprout "competiotion this, competition that" are idiots. Who don't know how discern healthy competition from unhealthy one (and MS is notorious in trying to push unhealthy one any time it enters the market). What is long term consequences of price wars even though it so lucrative for consumers "right now" etc. There is no free lunch - high competition has it pros, in the same time it has it's own cons.

Who should take their place?

Is there actually a place at all?

 

[bitbydeath]

We're part of the Xbox illuminati. Now, get in the PC or else!

Are you that person that keeps creating alts and being banned over and over again?
You sound a lot like him.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

Who should take their place?

Is there actually a place at all?

Yes. Xbox failed because they suck, stop making excuses for their failures. And this includes the false narrative that no one else could do better.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Yes. Xbox failed because they suck, stop making excuses for their failures. And this includes the false narrative that no one else could do better.

Oh I’m not, they’ve shat the bed so many times and it’s now on them.

However to compete with Sony and Nintendo there needs to be a company that does 3 things…

1. Mass produce, distribute and support tens of millions of units of hardware

2. Have an established ecosystem for game distribution

3. Be a games publisher with a decent level of quality and quantity

I can’t think of a single company that meets all 3 or could transition into one

Is it PlayStation, Switch, PC and mobile from here on out for gaming?

If you split gaming into home and portable, then into open and closed platforms, all 4 categories are met by the above.

 

[T-0800]

Is it PlayStation, Switch, PC and mobile from here on out for gaming?

 

[Felessan]

Who should take their place?

It's not about should. It's about can. And would.
Sacred place is never empty. If you are too complacent and rigid, someone else will get your spot. Starting from small and then simply outgrow you.
Who would thought 20 years ago that top spot in gaming would be Chinese company and Nintendo would be only 6th

Is it PlayStation, Switch, PC and mobile from here on out for gaming?

There is always uncertainty part of future - unpredictable, that you can't even think of, and it's big, whole ~30% (it's not always lead to negative effect, but the risk is always there)
Nokia thought it has it in it's pocket, until paradigm shift wiped them out

(funny thing that windows mobile was a thing years before Apple made it actually work, pushing winmobile to oblivion, huge loss of MS to Apple and Google). Contrary to popular belief it's not those who ~invent~ things that usually wins. It's those who can put it to practice in a way people would like.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

It's not about should. It's about can. And would.
Sacred place is never empty. If you are too complacent and rigid, someone else will get your spot. Starting from small and then simply outgrow you.
Who would thought 20 years ago that top spot in gaming would be Chinese company and Nintendo would be only 6th


There is always uncertainty part of future - unpredictable, that you can't even think of, and it's big, whole ~30% (it's not always lead to negative effect, but the risk is always there)
Nokia thought it has it in it's pocket, until paradigm shift wiped them out

(funny thing that windows mobile was a thing years before Apple made it actually work, pushing winmobile to oblivion, huge loss of MS to Apple and Google). Contrary to popular belief it's not those who ~invent~ things that usually wins. It's those who can put it to practice in a way people would like.

Some great points there.

Apple didn’t invent laptops, smartphones and tablets, but they were the first ones to actually make them usable when no other company was even getting close. Imagine how awkward smartphones would be today without Apple. I think the problem for Nokia and BlackBerry was that people hadn’t really invested in them, there were no platforms or libraries tying people to them.

I’d also say that gaming is more mature than mobile phones were when Apple entered the fray. Sony and Microsoft have already seen off the onslaught by bigger corporations like Microsoft and Google.

 

[Woopah]

Its very hard to see the next Xbox console doing any better. Not with declining brand popularity and a lack of exclusive content.

Wii did not have a great attach rate. Switch is pushing Software. Not sure how to compare a single system to 2 regardless.

Okay but how did it do compared to DS which, if you're only going to compare it to one of those, is the most appropriate comparison.

DS had an attach rate of 6.12. Wii had an attach rate of 8.29 (not including Wii Sports outside Japan).

It's a common misconception that Wii didn't sell software very well.

The strength of Switch is that it has the hardware sales of a handheld but the software sales of a home console.

 

[mayham2199]

Kids are heading to PC or mobile. Or cheap handhelds like the switch. Even Japan, who started console gaming, is mostly mobile nowadays and PC is growing at a fast pace.

Kids aren’t heading anywhere they are broke with no money. Kids are heading where ever their parents with the money let them go. Mobile and pc is much easier to justify a parent spending money on for a child which is why it’s grown so much. No one knows what those kids will do once they have their own money. I went back to console gaming after being forced to pc because my dad wouldn’t buy annythjng else.