Zombie James
Banned
This is happening in this thread.
IGN: Splatoon's lack of voice chat is "cheap and lazy"
- Thread starter Oddduck
- Start date
This is happening in this thread.
No, one says that you're too inept a company to include a voice chat option in your game in 2015 so you're going to force people to use a phone or their fucking computers if they wish to actually communicate with human beings.
Have you read nothing in this whole thread about voice chat being actually important for communicating in a competitive, team environment? Holy shit.
Night Angel
Member
What always kills me about these comparisons is that PC games are on a platform with many options for chatting while the Wii-U has no means of communication if the game doesn't offer one. You have to use an entirely different device to chat.
Stop making stupid comparisons.
Solid Samus
Banned
Do you not understand context, or implications? You know that when people point out that it's a standard feature the intent is to illustrate that there are good reasons it's a standard feature? That people actually desire the feature, hence its standardization, hence the argument in here? It's about more than just 'checking boxes' even if you want to boil it down to that in order to have something easy peasy to argue against.
Do you even know what we have 38 pages full of? Because you've effortlessly handwaved away pages worth of arguments dealing with your train of thought.
or any of the posts that have noted (or... any use of common sense which should dictate) that people tend to use voice chat, with friends, for the main purpose of socialization, which unquestionably has the potential to enhance any multiplayer experience, for that matter.
In this post alone you've proven some things to me.
#1 - Even when a game is designed around offering players visual indicators, it's all reactionary. As in, you can't prepare, or make plans, or communicate with another player on any level except reacting to something they've already done. Hence the desire for voice-chat in the teamwork-based context. It allows for more, period. You've proven to me that you don't understand what voice chat can even offer any game in this particular context.
#2 - Most people in this day and age use voice chat on game systems as a way to communicate with their friends (or randoms whom they've friended and like playing with, but whom they might not be comfortable sharing their phone numbers or Skype accounts with) in capacities totally separate from 'teamwork' contexts. You've proven to me that you don't know why people generally desire console-level voice chat at all, to begin with.
#3 - You've boiled down all opposing arguments into a bogeyman that's easier for you to deal with. You've reasoned away any and all arguments for voice chat as being invalid arbitrarily by changing the arguments intrinsically in your own head. You're acting like the very fact that people are complaining about a lack of voice chat means that they must believe it's far and away the most important element of any game, that they only want included because other games have it and for literally no other reason than that. You've proven to me that you're incapable of engaging in reasonable discussion in this thread.
No, it's not, and it's utterly ridiculous that you're framing a desire for VOICE CHAT of all things as being indicative of a lack of creativity and forward thinking on the part of gamers.
Absolutely fucking utterly ridiculous.
also, 'voice chat just for bullshitting is useless'? someone had better tell Nintendo their entire local multiplayer philosophy, emphasizing socialization, was 'pretty much just useless' because if people aren't strategizing playing 3D World they might as well not even talk
Gucci Messiah
Banned
It's pretty obvious that when people post that they're saying it's unacceptable to not have that feature in this day and age when it is widely utilized by most games in the same genre. Not sure if you're being obtuse or really having trouble reading between the lines but it seemed clear to me.
Thats... One hell of an analogy...
Overside, I normally like some of your posts but I think you might be going a bit overboard, man.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
What the fuck are you talking about? I want chat in my online games because I play with friends and like to bullshit with them while I play.
Screw your shitty attitude where you think that a game shouldn't have an optional feature that you never have to use just so the game can be "different" even though that "difference" doesn't benefit the game in any way, shape, or form. You could still have your silent Splatoon game, just like you can have a silent Halo game or COD game. The game having voice chat wouldn't change this. Just like it's never changed it for any other online game.
It's not about checking boxes or whatever other bullshit you come up with. People want it because it's a proven an useful feature that people enjoy and arbitrarily taking out the OPTION to use it doesn't benefit anyone.
It's about as dumb as saying "What do you mean you want to be able to play in parties with your friends? Fuck your check boxes where you expect to have basic features that every other game in the genre has."
HF2014
Member
Not too worried about the 5 years old saying bad words ( well depend on how they were raised), its the older one who over-react over competition, even if the game is fun and supposed to be more relaxing than cod games like. They is no indication that in a competitive game, people will act normaly or act a bit more violent.Hey, Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze is a kid game, it still want me sometime to thown the controller at the screen because of its difficulty, but you see, thats me. I can control it, not everyone can control their emotion from competition.Nintendo are just protecting kids and their familiy brands from bad outsiders. You would love that let say your 10 years old kids get into a conversation with an adult and something bad happen???
We dont live in a perfect world and we all know it, and the best thing we can at least do is to protect our kids, and Nintendo imo are doing a wonderful job doing that. No, im not crying that voice chat isnt included.Nintendo probably tough about it, and they took the best decision.Simple as that.
I too am disappointed that there is no voice chat, but not because I would actually use it. I just think the option should be there for people that want it and turned off by default for everyone that hates whiny pre-teen voices like me.
Hopefully it doesn't put off too many people and this game reaches critical mass because I thought it was amazing otherwise.
Hopefully it doesn't put off too many people and this game reaches critical mass because I thought it was amazing otherwise.
I'm convinced that some people in this thread are some of those peeps that would wear sunglasses while going to parties in the middle of the night.
Do you really think the two are mutually exclusive?
Why?
I am genuinely intersted in your response, honestly, because I can not even try to put myself in the same bizarre headspace your posts occupy.
no it's perfectly clear, just annoying
That's one hell of a meltdown. 6.5/10
Newtype-001
Member
????
I dont understand your point at all.
So you're saying because no VC was decided by its "authors" its for some reason free of any criticism?
Just because a games designer thought it would be better without VC doesnt mean they thought right.
In the end many people in this thread believe VC would better the player experience... and as many other games have proven it is very simple for you not to be involved with VC.
Instead of settling for some middleground it was all or nothing from nintendo,being COD or battlefield has nothing to do with it.
TL
R no i wont live with it. Ill buy the game enjoy it, but critique its missteps like any sane person should.Zen_Arcade
Banned
Why is it annoying? Because you don't like people pointing out how behind the times and backwards Nintendo can be?
How is this thread still going, are people really arguing that much over this?
Splatoon is a good game. It should also have options for voice chat. I hope nintendo allows the option for voice chat in this, or other online games in the future. The lack of voice chat isn't a KILLING BLOW TO THE SPLATOON COMMUNITY, but it sucks.
Splatoon is a good game. It should also have options for voice chat. I hope nintendo allows the option for voice chat in this, or other online games in the future. The lack of voice chat isn't a KILLING BLOW TO THE SPLATOON COMMUNITY, but it sucks.
They wouldn't go to parties because they can already party at home and don't need 12 year olds yelling at them. Honestly does anyone like parties? It's just a bunch of people yelling at each other. I've been partying for ten years and I've never enjoyed listening to other people at parties. If you want to party, you should just skype with the people you want to party with. Nintendo's doing a great job protecting children from partying.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
I think the point was; its 2015, why aren't you using the communication method that's better quality, cross platform, has its own dedicated CPU, memory and bandwidth footprint, and can reach anyone in the world anywhere in the world regardless of what they're doing or what electronics they have turned on as your primary communications method in the first place?
If its clear why people are upset then why did your initial post pretend it was as out of Nintendo's control as the date?
This thread has my head spinning. The amount of brazen anti-consumer sentiment mixed with ingrained corporate loyalty is baffling.
You honestly equated people being upset with no voice chat to people blaming Nintendo for it being May 10th. That's not something I made up.
uncredited male
Member
It is sad to see all these Wii U owners at each other.
This thread is something else.
shouamabane
Member
If a lack of voice chat makes the game work better on slower internet services, I'm all for it.
has nothing to do with Nintendo, it's annoying in any situation
and if you read my first post that you already quoted I think you'll understand my point better
lol, I don't think you quite grasp the relative insignificance of my personal gripe and attempt at humor ;p
krypt0nian
Banned
No matter how many words you type, it should be a system level feature.
It never ceases to amaze me the mental gymnastics people will go through to defend Nintendo's (lack of) online features. You would think these people are preparing themselves for the mental gymnastics Olympics.
How can you even defend this? I know Nintendo fans are used to settling for less, but this is ridiculous.
How can you even defend this? I know Nintendo fans are used to settling for less, but this is ridiculous.
Mr Fahrenheit
Member
Because downloading Skype is hard :'(
Quadraphonic
Member
The sarcasm and hyperbole in this thread is so hilarious. I don't know if half the posts are joking about serious rewiring your house to get a laptop with Skype, or to buy a headset for your phone just because one single game on one single console is over a decade behind the times.
Because I'm not going to use an entirely different platform to communicate in a Wii U game. And, also guess what, I hate using Skype on my phone and my friends don't all have PC's so I can use TeamSpeak with them to play a Wii U game.
Night Angel
Member
Are you fucking kidding?
Voice chat is hardly sapping huge amount of bandwidth in games. Its been something in many games for years and years, way before we had crazy superfast Broadband.
Ulysses 31
Gold Member
Those lazy ninty devs!
I'm not against the option btw.
I actually hear the argument of "it's X year" all the time for many things standard and non-standard, about many big and little things about you name it. It really is the most annoying and weakest argument to use on any subject. It always gives little context in a discussion or do anything to fill people in on your woes.
I think we all have those things that we care/don't care about that someone else does. Which is why options is such an important thing. So those that don't care can ignore it and those that do can use it.
I think there is a big problem with blaming the consumer on finding a way instead of the company. Especially when other companies have no problem with the feature.
krypt0nian
Banned
And this post right here is why I cannot take you seriously in ANY Nintendo thread.
JESUS.
bender
What time is it?
Ease of use.
BigBadShamoo
Banned
Majority of consoles gamers aren't going to rely nor utilize something that isn't on there console for ingame voice chat no matter how good it is.
Also I tweeted this thread link to @SplatoonNA. Since it clearly involves them lol.
Also I tweeted this thread link to @SplatoonNA. Since it clearly involves them lol.
Quadraphonic
Member
Skype is a fucking nightmare to use. Skype accounts vs Microsoft accounts. Logging in makes a huge-ass noise. Messages get dropped all the time. They update it more than fucking PS3 firmware stability.
And on the phone it's even worse. There's no exiting and auto-login on start anymore. It FUCKING BEGS YOU (No joke, has a man bending over) for you not to sign out and PROMISES it won't waste your battery. That's a bald-faced lie.
Plus, needing to coordinate joining in the game AND on the console is a waste of time AND bandwidth. Everyone needs to not only make sure they have their game ready, and time set aside, but also charging their phone and joining the right chat? What if someone else joins the party? Or leaves it? Now you need to use your phone to add/remove people? The game should do that automatically. Like every fucking other squad-based shooter released in the last 10 years.
Congratulations, you have hurt me on a mental level.
Because my PC is in a different room and utilizes a different audio setup compared to my Wii U. Unless you're suggesting I setup Skype on my laptop or phone in which case I think that's completely unreasonable of an expectation.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
I don't. I don't even think you do considering your next post was about how you understood exactly what people meant by it and just said you were annoyed by it.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
All the reasons that make WiiU video chat a pointless OS level feature are the same reasons any game not having voice chat built in on any platform no big deal.
Or am I wrong and WiiU video chat is more relevant than I believe?
Night Angel
Member
That post is "I'm an expert" levels of stupid.
