I'm new to dieting/weight loss and I'm kind of overwhelmed. (wall-o-text warning)

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Wait 2000 is to lose weight? You sure? I could've sworn it was 1600?

1300 - 1600 if you are sedentary, women or man, respectively. (this is a generalization, btw... you should really calculate your BMR to establish a calorie goal)

You can have 2000 and create the deficit through exercise. I would argue that 2000 and exercise far exceeds the benefits of any prolonged 1500 "fasting" diet.

The exercise is the key, really... to weight loss and healthy living.
 
The biggest hurdle/challenge for most people with dieting is realizing that you have to make it a life change.

In other words, if you're a heavy soda/sugary drinker then it's gotta be water from now on.

Once folks get over that then it's smooth sailing and you realize that you can do anything.
 
Sorry to hear about your mom. Glad you're determined to take steps in the right direction. I dropped from 6'3 300 lbs to 175 lbs (bulking now at 185), so I've been there.

So let's get right down to business.

The most important thing, especially considering your liver condition, is to stay the fucking hell away from sugar. Do not drink soda, fruit juice, energy drinks, or alcohol. Whole fruit is okay in moderation, like berries.

You do not need to eliminate carbs from your diet, and it's very difficult anyway since you often have to prepare all of your own meals if you want to go keto. It is *not* necessary to do this, and it is not for everyone. I've done it in one month stints and I've lost significant weight in the process, but I've also had complications from it when I haven't been strict about my fiber intake. Even one day of missing my fiber quota when I forgot to buy some leafy greens to go with my dinner and I had really bad stuff happen to my bowels. If you can manage it, it can be a useful tool since it brings your appetite down to zero without catabolizing your muscles, but don't dwell on it if you can't.

That said, you want to aim for a diet that satisfies you without being high in calorie. That means high protein and fiber. Meat, leafy greens and other healthy veggies, and whole fruit (in moderation) are at the core of this. You do not need to cut carbs out; by all means, have a taco. But make the taco yourself and don't go to Taco Bell where the "meat" is 40% beef and 60% grain filler, cooked in rancid vegetable oil. An option for that taco, too, is to make it with a low carb tortilla that has a bunch of fiber in it. That was one of my go-tos.

Don't drink anything with calories in it. Do not eat any junk food (french fries are junk food). When you're hungry, eat real food, preferably prepared yourself so that you can track calories and know what's going into your mouth.

Set a caloric limit for yourself. Not something where you're starving. I did 2000 kcal/day, which is pretty reasonable. Then I exercised a bunch over the course of the day; anything I could do at first, which wasn't much (stationary bike and so on), but as the weight came down and my fitness level improved a little I was able to do more and incorporate more variety of exercise. That exercise will increase your caloric expenditure and speed along your weight loss progress without you having to drop down to more like 1500 calories/day which can be unpleasant.

In summary:

-stay high in protein and fiber, and low in sugar. Super low carb is an option but don't feel that you have to.

-Track exactly what's going into your mouth and set a caloric limit that is livable for you but low enough that you'll make good progress.

-Exercise daily in any way you're able. Low impact (elliptical, biking, swimming) cardio is best if you're morbidly obese, since your joints won't hold up to high impact. One hour per day at a minimum will speed you along, and low impact cardio can be done just about as much as you have willpower for. Keep your heart rate up.

-Also do weightlifting 2-3x per week to preserve your muscle mass as you drop in weight. See Fitness-GAF for more information on weightlifting.

Damn, this post just nails it. Good job.
 
When you guys are talking about calorie limits per day, are you talking NET calories, or just the amount you intake from food?
 
The biggest hurdle/challenge for most people with dieting is realizing that you have to make it a life change.

In other words, if you're a heavy soda/sugary drinker then it's gotta be water from now on.

Once folks get over that then it's smooth sailing and you realize that you can do anything.

And you can actually start tasting things again, which is a nice bonus...
 
Absolutely! Food is so much more flavorful when your taste buds aren't being subjected to heaps of carbonation and sugar.

Every thing Evilore said 10x!
 
When you guys are talking about calorie limits per day, are you talking NET calories, or just the amount you intake from food?

Most people are talking net.

But overweight people are typically going to be above 2000 calories in maintenance anyway, so aiming for that with food intake alone will yield some results.
 
Most people are talking net.

But overweight people are typically going to be above 2000 calories in maintenance anyway, so aiming for that with food intake alone will yield some results.

Yes, if you are morbidly obese (this sounds mean, but it's just the term that's used) then your BMR is probably really high... the amount of calories it likely requires to maintain that weight is much greater than 1500 - 2000.

So going down to 2000 is already creating a deficit. Then by adding exercise...
 
http://www.thefreshdiet.com/

A little pricey, but you're in it to win it right?

After a month or two you will learn what you should be eating and portion sizes. You may get to a point where you are comfortable enough to leave the program and do it on your own.

Or, if not, keep going.

The food was great! Not crappy at all.

The important thing is to only eat what is provided -- no sneaking side snacks or divergence.

If you also exercise, you will lose even more weight.
 
tl;dr: I need to lose weight and keep it off permanently and I’m overwhelmed by all of the weight loss strategies online and need something long-term sustainable so help me, GAF.

1-2 pounds a week

Really bad idea to use weight as your gauge of weight loss.

Water/salt and muscle vs fat play huge roles as does time of day.
 
I read that you will lose a pound a week if you consume just 500 less calories a day than you normally do. You can do that by switching from soda to water or unsweetened tea. It won't make you skinny or in shape, but it's a small change that's easy to maintain.

I'm sure someone here will correct me though.
 
I read that you will lose a pound a week if you consume just 500 less calories a day than you normally do. You can do that by switching from soda to water or unsweetened tea. It won't make you skinny or in shape, but it's a small change that's easy to maintain.

I'm sure someone here will correct me though.
It's... a lot more complicated than that. I linked a model earlier that will do it more accurately, but the model only really works if you're really strict about counting calories. For most people I think 500 is probably a good guideline, at least for short term weight loss. It's kind of like Weight Watchers--it might not be totally accurate but the important thing is that you eat less and the rest will follow.
 
Well, one of the key points of the OP is that he doesn't really have control over the food he's given. At this time he would be more successful with portion control until he can really provide and cook for himself.

I just read the whole OP, and I get that now.

My honest opinion to the OP? You're going to have to battle your family a bit. They'll ridicule you a bit, sure...But when they notice you losing weight and looking and feeling healthier, I can't imagine they'd completely brush you off still. Or would they? I don't know, but there are proven methods of weight loss that involve lowering sugar/carb intake.
 
I read that you will lose a pound a week if you consume just 500 less calories a day than you normally do. You can do that by switching from soda to water or unsweetened tea. It won't make you skinny or in shape, but it's a small change that's easy to maintain.

I'm sure someone here will correct me though.

Eh... kind of. That's a very basic use of the calorie deficit. And it's not taking into account a baseline BMR, so you're off from the start.

But yeah... 3500 is equal to one lb of fat.

-500 * 7 = -3500

That's the math. Pretty simple and generally true. But it's a bit more complicated irl. And you really have to establish a sedentary BMR as a baseline.
 
Eh... kind of. That's a very basic use of the calorie deficit. And it's not taking into account a baseline BMR, so you're off from the start.

But yeah... 3500 is equal to one lb of fat.

-500 * 7 = -3500

That's the math. Pretty simple and generally true. But it's a bit more complicated irl. And you really have to establish a sedentary BMR as a baseline.
It's a lot more complicated. Just one aspect of it... 3500 calories is roughly equal to one pound of fat, but you never lose just fat when you are losing weight. For most people, it will end up taking quite a bit less than that to lose a pound in general, and quite a bit more to actually burn a pound of fat. For example, for me it's taken about 4850 calories to burn each pound of fat, and only 2740 to lose each pound overall. And the rate changes as your composition changes, not to mention your metabolism. Again... there are models (well, a model) out there that will get you the exact numbers but it's dependent on the individual's body composition, initial dietary habits, sodium and carbohydrate intake, and so on and so forth. That's why I'd hesitate to hand out exact numerical requirements. Again... if you like obsessive modelling (like I do) and want to be super zealous about your caloric intake, you should use an advanced scientific model. If you just want to lose weight, it's probably best to focus on how to eat less rather than target a specific number like that.
 
It's a lot more complicated. Just one aspect of it... 3500 calories is roughly equal to one pound of fat, but you never lose just fat when you are losing weight. For most people, it will end up taking quite a bit less than that to lose a pound in general, and quite a bit more to actually burn a pound of fat. For example, for me it's taken about 4850 calories to burn each pound of fat, and only 2740 to lose each pound overall. And the rate changes as your composition changes, not to mention your metabolism. Again... there are models (well, a model) out there that will get you the exact numbers but it's dependent on the individual's body composition, initial dietary habits, sodium and carbohydrate intake, and so on and so forth. That's why I'd hesitate to hand out exact numerical requirements. Again... if you like obsessive modelling (like I do) and want to be super zealous about your caloric intake, you should use an advanced scientific model. If you just want to lose weight, it's probably best to focus on how to eat less rather than target a specific number like that.

No... of course you are right.

I was just throwing out the general numbers... where that 500/day number originated. And it is generally true, as a baseline, to illustrate how calorie deficit leads to weightloss.

But it is more complicated, as we both said.
 
I'm short and used to weigh 200+ lbs. two years ago.

Now, I'm still short but weigh 145 lbs. Lowest was about 140.

I did it without dieting or much exercise. Didn't count calories or any of that stuff.

Pretty much, it consisted of this.

- Had a late breakfast, around 11. Had two waffles (big fan of them, considering my username) with syrup and a glass of milk.

- That'd hold me over until dinner, which was around 6:30. If I felt hungry before, I'd have something little to hold me over. Would mostly turn to a banana or something easy.

- Have a normal, home cooked dinner. Eat until you're full.

My rule was absolutely no sugar. I don't drink soda, only water and milk, and don't have that many sweets so it wasn't that hard. I mean, having a cookie or cake every once in a while won't kill you but every day isn't good. If I really wanted something sweet late at night, I had a glass of chocolate milk. It's not good to have before bed but it never affected my weight loss so it was something I had a good amount of the time.

Also, if you have to have fast food, have as little of it as possible. My family always gets pizza every Friday night. I'd only have a slice. Did its job to fill me up and that was it.

Exercise wise, I'm not a gym person. Instead, I used my house. If I ate too much at dinner, I'd run up and down my staircase as many times as I could. Most was five or six times at first but 8-10 is the norm now. There's two steps, a landing, then 10 steps to the second floor. So 24 steps up and down. It really wore me out and kinda made that full feeling disappear. If I get that feeling now, I do 100 jumping jacks. Same results, really.

This method is unconventional but worked for me.
 
I just want to thank everyone for the amazing variety of great responses that I’ve received. After reading and re-reading everything, I think I finally have some semblance of a way forward. To those saying that I need to make sustainable lifelong chances instead of simply adhering to a “diet”, you’re absolutely right—this is a lifelong thing for me by necessity anyway, but I fully accept that instituting overall lifestyle changes are going to effect the most meaningful and permanent change.

Some thoughts since I began the thread:

It’s sounding like carbohydrates are okay in moderation as long as they come from unprocessed sources, but I should absolutely avoid sugar at all costs for now. That’s going to be painful because I’ve always been a fiend for candy and it also means an end (at least for now) to ketchup, pasta sauce, barbecue, milk, flavored oats, and several other things that I basically live off of, but I can deal. I’ve actually always drank diet soda (I have at least that much preservation instinct), but I’m also a sweet tea addict and typically drink a gallon of milk a week by myself, so that’s gotta end. I think I can survive giving up greasy low-quality fast food even if I almost universally love it all, and if I have to eat somewhere, there’s always grilled chicken on the menu everywhere. I’m also a big baby and still have taste and texture issues with some vegetables, but it’s time for me to get over that.

I can handle portion control and counting calories. It just requires a little restraint and mindfulness until it becomes routine, and given my current motivation to get healthy, that’s no problem for me right now. I don’t quite have a stock of high protein foods yet (I'm thinking of getting a dehydrator and making my own jerky) so I’m definitely feeling the effects of reduced caloric intake + exercise, but I’ll require less food to feel satisfied as I lose weight, right? Either way, I’m going to continue pressuring the family to let me make my own nutritional choices for all three meals of the day and become acquainted with the nutritional content of common foodstuffs we keep around the home.

It’s good to hear that I’m generally on the right track when it comes to exercise. I’m going to try to acquire more equipment in the coming months (especially anything that can allow me to exercise my upper body without putting any strain on my knees), but I’ll concentrate on cycling and a little bit of weightlifting (are dumbbells okay?) until I feel fit enough to tackle something more intense. I’ll see what I can do about floor exercises, but this home is a narrow crowded death trap. I just need to get hired so I can rent somewhere, but I’m having shit luck with that.

Health issues have generally been so far beyond my interests that I wasn’t even aware of a dedicated weight loss thread on GAF. I’ll peek in there when I have any further questions or have milestones/problems that I want to discuss with other people going through the same thing that I am. Fitness-GAF is probably the next level, so farther down the line. I just want to thank you all again for your really helpful responses in spite of my interminable rambling and total lack of basic health and fitness knowledge. This community really came through for me when I needed you. Here goes nothing!


How tall are you?
Male/Female?
How overweight are you currently? (How much do you weigh?)

Ah, right, I forgot to mention this. I'm male, 6'2, 240 down from 260 in November (although I suspect that most of it is water weight, so if I want to lose 10% of my body weight I'm going to need to get down to at least 215, and I'm going to try for lower.)
 
I just want to put some tips to regarding weight loss (I'm no expert).

I used to be around 50 pounds heavier than I am right now. I was somewhat leaning towards Obese and I was gaining weight fast. Luckily, I got a scholarship to France (as an exchange student), and that's where I changed my eating habits.

You don't have to cut off all the sweets, and processed junk foods right away. You should pace yourself. The first few months there, I still ate some junk food, but not as much. As I did this, I walked around towns. At first, I did not venture off too far from the house (and I would use the bus to get to the town center). Later on, I would not use the bus anymore in going back to the house from the town center.

As months pass along, and you walk more and more, try limiting your junk food intake. In the first month, you should see some small changes. Yes, it's small, but it helped me get a lot of confidence and trust, and I felt more motivated because of it. Even little changes can give you HUGE motivations.

So, I suggest, at first you WALK around. Walking in a rural area is actually kinda cool (I lived in the suburbs, and when I moved to France back then, I was also in a rural area). If you feel as if you're knees are giving in, taking a rest somewhere, or call it a day, but you still have to walk.

I literally do not eat junk food now, but I do allow myself a cheat day (usually a weekend). I did not start going to the gym like about 2 weeks ago (I was too intimidated by my body weight and I really had no clue on what to do, plus timing never worked out for me). If you feel intimidated with going to the gym, grab a buddy who goes to gym and have him help you.

So basically, there's my tip based on what I went through. Weight loss is also about pacing. You don't have to push yourself. I have seen people push themselves in to dieting - and yes they succeed, but they also gain weight fast.
 
Eliminating carbs isn't necessary, but eliminating them will resolve your NAFLD as quickly as possible, which is something I would want to do.
 
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