In Defense of Hufflepuff (The Atlantic)
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Albus Dumbledore was a Gryffindor and Tom Riddle was a Slytherin. Being the best at magic of your peers doesn't make you a Ravenclaw. And she certainly wasn't anywhere near those two anyway. The only character in the series even close was Snape.
entremet
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I think the statute of limitations on this spoiler on this is over lol.
Especially since Snape kills you know who is a worse one and basically part of pop culture.
Yes, funny how that works out isn't it? All the major names in their history just happen to funnel into Gryffindor and Slytherin regardless of what the houses "stand for".
Can you name a prominent Ravenclaw that wasn't Rowena? You had Quirrel, who was a jobber. Lockheart, who was a jobber. A whole bunch of other jobbers too. At least Fliwick was kind of cool. This is supposed to be the house of Hawkings and Wozniaks, but they have not produced a single character of note along these lines.
Hermione who is oh-so-smart and never fails to get up all in your shit about it STILL goes into Gryffindor, because reasons. If that's not Ravenclaw then what is? What does Cho Chang or Luna Lovegood have to offer to Ravenclaw that Hermione is lacking?
Gryffindor is the jock house, but also gets the geniuses as well. Ravenclaw, aka, Honors, can't even compete in terms of academic achievement.
I thought Hufflepuff was for modest wizards. You can be just as brave/smart/ambitious as someone from the other houses but a Hufflepuff wouldn't crow about it.
It's not like sorting is an accurate process either. You can argue with the hat about where you should be sorted and the sorting only reflects your personality when you are 10 years old.
It's not like sorting is an accurate process either. You can argue with the hat about where you should be sorted and the sorting only reflects your personality when you are 10 years old.
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If Yamcha were a wizard, he would be in Hufflepuff. No doubt. Such a waste of a house.
Most hilarious HP video ever!!!
But really, Hufflepuffs are kind and who wouldn't want that?
DrForester
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The house of sparkly vampires? Screw that...
Gryffindor 4 Lyfe
Gryffindor 4 Lyfe
entremet
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I lol'ed.
DrForester
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I think the strangest house placement had to be Peter Petigrew. How the hell would he ever be sorted into Gryffindor? Nevil had potential, and could be brave when it came down to it. Peter never could.
Ganzlinger
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Ravenclaw is the best house.
entremet
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Well Snape ended up being the biggest hero in the series and he was Slytherin.
I think you misspelled Neville
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DrForester
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He wasn't a hero. He was an insufferable asshole who felt guilty because the one person he loved died. He made a point of tormenting that one person's son whenever possible.
entremet
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Triple agents have way more on the line than defined alliance characters.
No one's perfect. ;P
Yamcha wouldn't even get into Hogwarts.
NipplesAndToes23
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Yep that's what I was saying earlier.
Yeah Slytherins also share the trait of being selfish. Him, Slughorn, and Riddle are selfish. Also anyone who threatens to drug a 12 year should be kicked out from the education system.
I just finished a re-read, but I don't recall Quirrel or Lockheart's houses being mentioned and as grimy as Lockheart is I would think he'd be a Slytherin.
Imagine if Harry was in Gryff, Ron was Huffle, Herm was Ravenclaw, and somehow Draco as a Slytherin becoming the fourth in the group through some sort of redemption arc that worked in parallel with Harry's journey... Imagine they managed to transcend all the factional divides that was the initial reason for the founding of the houses, into some sort of better balance.
Oops, sorry. I've been rewatching Avatar.
Teddy Lupin was sorted into Hufflepuff and he became Head Boy.
I'm like 99% sure this was the original setup.
And then Rowling threw all the protags into Gryffindor.
SomeRandomWeirdGuy
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Why do that when you can make all the heroes Gryffindors and make Slytherins innately evil?
This was in post-books material like Pottermore. Ravenclaw as a brand name is even more anemic in the original story.
DrForester
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Rowling has revealed a lot more on Pottermore and interviews regarding who was in what houses.
SporeCrawler
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Hufflepuff is like the House Stark of Winterfell.
NipplesAndToes23
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Oh cool. I'll go look up which house all the adults belonged to whose house weren't mentioned in the book.
I'm guessing that Fudge, Trawlney, and Stan Shunpike were Hufflepuffs
Hagrid and Minister Scrimgeour were Gryffindors
Umbridge and Mundungus Slytherins
I think Rowling put Peter in Gryffindor just because him, Sirius, James, and Lupin were all in Gryff. It's like a group of friends all have to be in the same house and you can't have one from another.
liliththepale
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*Trelawney
The Patil sisters hang out a fair amount despite being in different houses. Luna also spends an awful lot of time outside of Ravenclaw, in particular having befriended Ginevra early on. But yeah, being in the same house is definitely conducive to friendship.
Snape didn't kill you know who, Harry did.
NipplesAndToes23
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After searching Pottermore, most of the characters I was thinking about didn't have their house mentioned, but I did guess Umbridge and Hagrid right. Sybill Trelawney being in Ravenclaw is weird to me because she doesn't come across intelligent, even in her own subject.
Littlefang
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Yeah the other houses all get shafted for Gryffindor but Hufflepuff gets it the worst. I wish the other houses had gotten more development. It would've been cool if they all switched houses at the end of the year or something. My own opinion is that a lot of Hogwarts was wasted by keeping us in Gryffindor all the time. I understand it though cause those books would have been never ending if Rowling took the time to explore everything.
IdreamofHIME
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Harry was smarter and braver. Oops.
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liliththepale
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Padma Patil and Cho Chang aren't insane though. Lockheart wasn't insane until his memory charm backfired.
I know, was just messing with you.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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Hufflepuffs are the farm workers of the Wizarding world. Thats ok, they play a valuable role.
I think has something to do with what the sortee values the most in themselves, even if they don't know it at the time of the sorting ceremony. The Sorting Hat probably ranks the houses each sortee would excell in from best to worst and then places them in the house they most deeply resonate with.
Harry was a good fit for all but was sorted into Gryffindor, I think, because The Sorting Hat knew he valued courage and actions associated with courage (doing the right, i.e. heroic thing) the most so he accepted his pre-determined preference for the house.
Hermoine was super smart, but she was brave and deep down valued that the most (I'm pretty sure she actually said that at some point, though that might have been just in the movies), though she would have probably been a good Hufflepuff (hardworking and loyal) or Slytherin (ambitious, albeit to a lessor extent) too.
Ron, who might have been the most obvious example of hidden courage given how easily frightened he was especially in the first two books, wasn't that clever or ambitious so he was propably an immediate shoe-in for Gryffindor, but I'm sure he could've gotten into Hufflepuff on the merits of his loyalty as well. I'd say if Hermoine could've just as easily been a Ravenclaw, then Ron could have just as easily been a Hufflepuff. That's not to say he was more loyal than her - the books show Hermione was the most loyal of the two based on their actions - but those were his two strongest traits: bravery and loyalty.
Luna was sorted in Ravenclaw probably because, aside from actually being smart, she was also extremely openminded and valued that quite a lot if her conversations with Hermione in Order of the Phoenix were any indication. She probably valued that the most when she arrived at Hogwarts as an eccentric loner, but if she had an alternate house pick it would have to be either Gryffindor or Hufflepuff.
When Dumbledore mused whether or not they sorted too early, he seemed to imply Snape could've been a Gryffindor because he was so brave - a sentiment echoed by Harry in epilogue when he told Albus (ugh) that Snape was the bravest man he had ever known.
Come to think of it, in retrospect I don't understand how Snape landed in Slytherin to begin with. He was never that ambitious from what I can tell and seemed to have gotten over that blood purity shit when he fell in love with Lily when they were kids.
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Hellwarden
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Fuck the Hufflepuff.
Ravenclaw for life.
Ravenclaw for life.
Aaron Strife
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Cedric was in Hufflepuff because he was a nice guy.
e.g. giving Harry a hint on the second task.
Although I guess that's still a little dickish since Harry outright told him the first task was they'd have to fight a dragon whereas Cedric had to be cryptic about it.
e.g. giving Harry a hint on the second task.
Although I guess that's still a little dickish since Harry outright told him the first task was they'd have to fight a dragon whereas Cedric had to be cryptic about it.
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That sounds very cool actually.
Monocle
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This explains everything.
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