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Barristan Selmy said:
This forum has become too tense and high strung.
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My first instinct was to yell, "n00b!" but it has been an inordinately long console lifecycle and you really would have had to have been here almost a decade to know this is just part of the circle of life on gaming forums.
 
Barristan Selmy said:
I've said it a few times already. I don't care about him being banned. I'm saying that we shouldn't dismiss what he said just because he was banned, because a lot of it is true. He could've went about it another way, sure. He was impolite to say the least. Doesn't make him wrong though.
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Every console gets its share of licks. Xbox (specifically Tomb Raider) is the hot topic at the moment, thus, the increase in "negative" threads/posts.
 
Kade said:
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The butterfly effect
 
N.Domixis said:
No one puts this much effort into defending a box unless paid. Shill confirmed. I'll be keeping my eyes open.
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I don't see what's so bad about the OP.

It has valid points. The hate is over the top for the Xbox One.

Are people making LTTP threads or other "review" threads for game related things shills? They put just as much effort as OP did.
 
Dr.Acula said:
From the ToS:



PR and Industry folk are invited to comment on threads, but it gets a lot more grey when they're directing the discussion by creating threads.

If you are affiliated with the industry you cannot create OTs for example.
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Understandable, but again, we don't know this guy does PR in the industry. He could have been representing a dry-cleaning company, for all we know, and he just happens to have strong opinions about how he'd like people to talk here. If he's just posting here casually, it might not occur to him to say, "I do PR for a dry-cleaning company." And really, in the event of an actual PR plant, how would you trust them to disclose their affiliations truthfully, anyways?

Again, I really think this person could be innocent. But what's done is done, I suppose.
 
BTails said:
Lanny works in my building in downtown Calgary, I've rode the elevator with him a couple times.

...HE STILL HAS THE MUSTACHE. It's white now though.
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Uncle works supply chain for an oil and gas company, Lanny sent him over a signed jersey after they had lunch just cause. Seems like he's a really nice guy.

Also, you work a block north of me. Crazy.
 
Barristan Selmy said:
I've said it a few times already. I don't care about him being banned. I'm saying that we shouldn't dismiss what he said just because he was banned, because a lot of it is true. He could've went about it another way, sure. He was impolite to say the least. Doesn't make him wrong though.
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Threads like this are garbage. Throwing around haphazard accusations, insulting others while pleading for peace, Sony Too(tm), list wars, leave Microsoft alone, etc.

It's stupid to make a thread an attempt to attack some group of members. If you have issues with people in specific threads, PM a mod to deal with it. Or strike up a conversation in that thread. We don't need this crap. Can you imagine what it would be like if everyone who felt slighted by some members of this forum, started making threads to defend their viewpoint?

That said, I feel for the XBox members who have to trudge through some of these XBox threads. The drivebys do get ridiculous sometimes, but my advice is to not take it personally and let a mod know.
 
Neiteio said:
Understandable, but again, we don't know this guy does PR in the industry. He could have been representing a dry-cleaning company, for all we know, and he just happens to have strong opinions about how he'd like people to talk here. If he's just posting here casually, it might not occur to him to say, "I do PR for a dry-cleaning company." And really, in the event of an actual PR plant, how would you trust them to disclose their affiliations truthfully, anyways?

Again, I really think this person could be innocent. But what's done is done, I suppose.
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Did you PM BoshiptI though
 
are people seriously defending this behaviour ? it was a PR thread in every sense what is a bannable offence regardless of his employment.
 
Points at the heart of the OP were all pretty reasonable. If that is what being a paid shill sounds like, I would trade them in for each and every one of the unpaid shills running around here.
 
Barristan Selmy said:
I agree except on one point. If I were to say, IMO Ryse is the most beautiful console game I've ever seen. I'd get 20 people telling me how KZ looks better, or how SS looks better and is open world, and then the resolution gets brought up and it spirals down from there.
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That's just how forums go, subjective opinions will meet other subjective opinions.
 
Grakl said:
Did you PM BoshiptI though
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Yes, I did PM Bish, and he can vouch for that. He was very polite and accommodating. I'm now here talking with everyone else about the concept of PR plants vs. people who happen to be in PR, and how we as a forum feel about the best way to handle them.
 
Could someone clear up that cliffyb tweet for me. In another thread someone told me he was just joking. True or not? I need to know if I'm supposed to be laughing at him or with him.
 
lyrick said:
Not a PR Company.

A company that offers inputs for PR and Marketing Firms.
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Okay, I was watching the MGSV stream so I missed this thread. The "PR company" writes software for PR companies to use. So they're not industry, they're middle-ware, I get it now.
 
ElectricBlanketFire said:
We're pulling back into the station and you're still getting your seat restraint checked by the Cedar Point park employee.
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HEY, NOT COOL! I've had friends killed in trainwrecks at my local Six Flags! The things I've seen, my god. I wouldn't wish them upon my greatest foe. They weren't even talkin' gaming when it happened. 100% Innocent victims.
 
Neiteio said:
Yes, I did PM Bish, and he can vouch for that. He was very polite and accommodating. I'm now here talking with everyone else about the concept of PR plants vs. people who happen to be in PR, and how we as a forum feel about the best way to handle them.
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No, not Bish -- BoshiptI
 
I'm more interested in that original Cliffy B quote, honestly. Good lord.
 
Barristan Selmy said:
I agree except on one point. If I were to say, IMO Ryse is the most beautiful console game I've ever seen. I'd get 20 people telling me how KZ looks better, or how SS looks better and is open world, and then the resolution gets brought up and it spirals down from there.

edit: just for clarity, when I say it all spirals down from there I mean, consoles get brought into it, then sales, then the console companies, then personal attacks etc etc.
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Around this point are when the bans occur.

Everything else is fair game according to the ToS.

You can't expect everyone to hold the same opinions.
 
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