I agree, PC gaming is still far more expensive for equal and greater specs.If you think console gaming is expensive it might be time to get into firestick gaming.
Almost all digital Nintendo games also have 30% off sales on a somewhat regular basis.I'm personally not at all offended by $500 hardware, especially considering the costs versus building a PC.
The recent price hike announcements on games, however, are definitely ridiculous. That being said, they're only expensive if you're a slave to your own FOMO. All games, except Nintendo first party games, go on sale, sometimes massive sales around $30 off MSRP, as early as 6 to 8 weeks after release. Just fucking wait and then buy. I simply do not understand why so many gamers have such poor fucking impulse control.
Hold up all you need to run games on a PC is a gfx card now? No motherboard, power supply, CPU, keyboard and mouse, decent monitor to put the visuals? Not to mention case, ram and software lol all that shit is doubled the cost of a PS5 pro and that's if you get the bare minimum parts that 4070 needs to function.A Ps5 Pro costs 800 euro where I live.
A Geforce 4070, which is far from mid, costs 669 euro where I live.
If you bought five games a year, that is £400.If you can't afford to buy an £80 game then u failed at life.
I think if you don't then you're making it harder to be profitable.Only if you still want to release on every platform under the sun.
Lower game prices + no penalty fee for online gaming x ~6 yearsHold up all you need to run games on a PC is a gfx card now? No motherboard, power supply, CPU, keyboard and mouse, decent monitor to put the visuals? Not to mention case, ram and software lol all that shit is doubled the cost of a PS5 pro and that's if you get the bare minimum parts that 4070 needs to function.
Why are you just responding to that? Also you are the one bringing PC in there dude.You get games cheaply on console too. Physical etc. I don't pay for online because I don't play online. But yeah. It's bs you have to pay for that.
And I don't care you can do more on pc. E are talking about games
Being able to afford something and seeing the value in it are very different things.If you can't afford to buy an £80 game then u failed at life.
If you play F2P games or don't play online at all, then you don't have to pay for online on any console.Lower game prices + no penalty fee for online gaming x ~6 years
Yeah, every company should ignore their own rising costs and give you products for free just because cost of life is rising. Yeah, it sure does this work in reality.The idea that companies have been doing us a favour for the past twenty years by keeping games at USD$60.00 is downright Stockholm syndrome.
You mean f2p online stuff, the main games on PC and mobile "those will stay"As it should be. PC gamers aren't gonna loose access to the newest games
PC gaming is much cheaper in the long run, and it's not even close. And most people dont care that much about graphics because the majority of PC gaming takes place on laptops. And many have laptops already so there's a lot of people for whom switching to PC doesn't even come with additional cost of buying hardware because they already have it, they just didnt use it for that.Console gaming too expensive?
Stupid ps5 or ps5 pro is cheaper than mid graphics cards... alone....
I feel it's quite affordable. people just are used to 60$ which .... let's look at OBLVION.
2006, 50$... that would be 100$ today. yet games are not 100$. They are 70-80 and way way way longer.
Also, console games look essentially the same as pc games nowadays. There are not 2 hugely separate completely different versions. It's the same game running on pc and console. And consoles are 4k, 60fps, have screenshots and so on. Just like pc.
It used to be that you showed ps2 game and pc version and the difference was clear. not anymore.
Everything got 2-3x more expensive in last 5 years alone. Look at gpu prices or food... OR WHATEVER.
Console is cheaper than mid smartphone ffs.
It depends on if you play non-F2P online.I agree, PC gaming is still far more expensive for equal and greater specs.
Games dont exist in a vacuum in our lives. Many people need PCs for a variety of tasks, and when you take that into account, a gaming PC often comes cheaper than a console + PC combo.You get games cheaply on console too. Physical etc. I don't pay for online because I don't play online. But yeah. It's bs you have to pay for that.
And I don't care you can do more on pc. E are talking about games
they have addressed both. Just 2 quick Google searches:I don't know what is most weird.
Microsoft upping their prices in a market where they are already behind, or IGN being silent while Nintendo and Sony ups their prices, and only barks when Microsoft joins in on the price increase.
Glad to hear that. Although who does and doesn't offer sales wasn't really my point. My point was gamers can very easily control how expensive this hobby is by simply controlling when they actually buy games.Almost all digital Nintendo games also have 30% off sales on a somewhat regular basis.
Yeah and if you don't turn your console on you don't even have to pay for the electricity.If you play F2P games or don't play online at all, then you don't have to pay for online on any console.
If you are going to cite a major cost then cite it correctly.Yeah and if you don't turn your console on you don't even have to pay for the electricity.
We are here in an enthusiasts forum and i think most here buy several games per year and/or play online.
This is so fucking naive. These companies have an advantage over consumers. People won't stop buying them, they will make sacrifices if they can't easily afford one. 80 dollar games are 1/7th more expensive. Do you think anywhere near 1/7 fewer people will buy them? Of course not. The vote with your wallet meme is nonsense because most will grin and bear it.Stop buying shit you think is "too expensive".
The industry will correct itself if needed. And if not then there's already tens of thousands of games out there already for you to experience.
Learn to read.Hold up all you need to run games on a PC is a gfx card now? No motherboard, power supply, CPU, keyboard and mouse, decent monitor to put the visuals? Not to mention case, ram and software lol all that shit is doubled the cost of a PS5 pro and that's if you get the bare minimum parts that 4070 needs to function.
Ok? The statement made was that the average American spends $1000 a year at Starbucks, in the context of using that figure to prove that Americans are so awash with disposable income that the game price rises are trivial in comparison. But the real figure is more like $100 than $1000, which rather undermines the point being made.My co-worker buys 1 iced caffe americano a day MINIMUM.
250 business days x £4.35 = £1087
500$ per console
100$ per game
100$ per acssessories
200$ year for online feature.
And some here ll say that PC game is expensive
I agree, PC gaming is still far more expensive for equal and greater specs.
If u are hardcore gamer its way more than 80 for a game u spending yearly, many of us buy 20-30games/year(ofc not all of them are full price but still cost adds up), ad to that paying online and cost of console hardware or in pc case even higher cost and it can be few k usd/euro/year, ofc u can game in survival mode aka old games/focus on backlog, or series s+gamepass then its much cheaper, but u dont get that full fat experience some1 gets for buying games at launch/playing on better hardware, be it ps5pr0 or high end pc.If you can't afford to buy an £80 game then u failed at life.
I'm more on about software and console games have always cost 10 to 20 quid more than the same game on the PC, and if you account for inflation, us Mega Drive and SNES fans were paying £80 to £100 in the 90'sThe upfront cost of a gaming PC can be steep, but the long-term value is hard to beat. The same games are often cheaper than on consoles. Over time, that adds up to a much larger library for a fraction of the price.
You're saying it like it's a bad thing.Everyone forgets that the Series S exists.
Not at all. I'm saying affordable gaming still exists for those who can't stomach the price of a Series X/PS5.You're saying it like it's a bad thing.
Haha you got me there, but book prices have not been immune to increases either.Reading?
And you do? "the N64 sold over 32 million units globally", "Nintendo Switch Achieves 150 Million Sales". Game market grew x5.
I'm too lazy to look it up but I'll take your word for it. Still, back to topic, gaming was expensive back in the days too.Yeah, it's obviously not x5, I think it's around x2 if we look at the top games sales numbers by decade.
Not true. IGN ripped the PS5 Pro. Called it a waste of money, and that you're better off building a PC. IGN Xbox "journalists" Like Ryan Mccaffrey and Destin Legarie both ripped the price. Only for Ryan to buy it a couple of days ago.I don't know what is most weird.
Microsoft upping their prices in a market where they are already behind, or IGN being silent while Nintendo and Sony ups their prices, and only barks when Microsoft joins in on the price increase.
Exactly. IGN and the media were ripping the PS5 Pro left and right.they have addressed both. Just 2 quick Google searches:
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Switch 2 Around the World: High Game Price Is a Universal Pain - IGN
IGN editors from across the world discuss the global reaction to Switch 2, from hardware improvements to high game prices.www.ign.com
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Why $70 PS5 and Xbox Series X Games Make Sense...but the Timing Couldn't Be Worse - IGN
OPINION: Production values have all gone up, so it’s understandable if prices do too. But it’s not that simple.www.ign.com
So, I don't know what you and your fellow rats liking your post are on about. Get a grip.
Uh. Idk about that. The Xbox One X version of RDR2 was the best version on console.An IGN personality unaware of the fact that Rockstar's never optimized a game for a Pro console?
This is so fucking naive. These companies have an advantage over consumers. People won't stop buying them, they will make sacrifices if they can't easily afford one. 80 dollar games are 1/7th more expensive. Do you think anywhere near 1/7 fewer people will buy them? Of course not. The vote with your wallet meme is nonsense because most will grin and bear it.
Staying at the "same" price point in the past had to do with larger audience. Many more people these days buy games. That outperformed inflation for a while do much with hat games actually got cheaper and than slowly more expensive.Console gaming too expensive?
Stupid ps5 or ps5 pro is cheaper than mid graphics cards... alone....
I feel it's quite affordable. people just are used to 60$ which .... let's look at OBLVION.
2006, 50$... that would be 100$ today. yet games are not 100$. They are 70-80 and way way way longer.
Also, console games look essentially the same as pc games nowadays. There are not 2 hugely separate completely different versions. It's the same game running on pc and console. And consoles are 4k, 60fps, have screenshots and so on. Just like pc.
It used to be that you showed ps2 game and pc version and the difference was clear. not anymore.
Everything got 2-3x more expensive in last 5 years alone. Look at gpu prices or food... OR WHATEVER.
Console is cheaper than mid smartphone ffs.
There are settings that you simple do not get on console next gen patch or not. And i know its just an example. Its always an just an example.your example is comparing last gen game with it's years late release on pc running on modern hardware.
That game did not got current gen patch.
BUT STILL - It's not worlds apart. It used to be that the models, levels and everything was different.
You take any modern game that's current gen and you would not be able to say which is which.
I have lg c1 48" oled on my desk. ps5 pro and pc connected to it.
Now that pssr exists, stuff looks about the same as dlss games.
REsolution and framerate. Both things that change from console to pc... and both of these things are good enough already on consoles.
Not to mention no stutter and shader compilation on consoles.
More gamers = more sales = more money.I'm not sure what you game market comment is supposed to mean.
Don't you think it's one of the reasons why the game industry has grown?We're lucky they haven't been increasing like everything else for the past 25 years.
So it's unprofitable right now?AAA game development cost has increased ~100x since the N64 era.
An estimated 30-50% of all gamers wait for games to drop in price.
Giving users a powerful incentive not to buy games right away is a massive mistake.
But the difference is still usually marginal. Even in pt games.There are settings that you simple do not get on console next gen patch or not. And i know its just an example. Its always a just an example.
More gamers = more sales = more money.
Don't you think it's one of the reasons why the game industry has grown?
So it's unprofitable right now?
Indeed. I can get behind console price increases. I mean look at today's consoles (PS5, PS5 Pro and Xbox Series), and all the tech they pack in. PS2 had a DVD player (a huge value back when it launched), but then it had the same PSone wired controller, no internal memory at all, you had to spend money on memory cards. No Wifi either.Consoles are still cheap all things considered. $500 for a PS5 that is also a 4K blu ray player is an insane value. PC is a joke in comparison.