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Indiana Jones and the Great Circle was successful enough that Disney reportedly "picked up the phone and wants more"

Three

Gold Member
I do think Disney noticed. Harrison Ford was at the Game Awards. He's too old to do literally anything else. They can see its a miracle what Troy Baker, Machine Games and Todd Howard pulled off.
Disney don't own Harrison Ford. He was there much like how Keanu Reeves was. Paid and promoting a game. Not because Disney noticed senpai or because anything was a 'miracle'.

The way the bootlickers can't handle this game and try to control the narrative is hilarious. Indy really is the game that keeps on giving. Thank you MS you beautiful bastards.

Lol at the "bootlickers" comment when talking about a Jez Corden article of all things. I think you've got the wrong end of the stick there.
 
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ikbalCO

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What does it mean Disney wants more? Isn't Disney just selling the license? Of course they want to sell more.
insomniac leak showed that they do not sell the license in the general sense. they kinda partner with the studio and take handsome cut off the profits. they are also super invested with the quality of the end result since it represents how healthy the franchise is. so it is only reasonable that Disney is super happy with how the game is received and the critical acclaimed.
 

willothedog

Member
but its already burnt. xbox is already gone. MS is a 3rd party publisher now, I doubt there will be future xbox home consoles. so why bother with such a futile vitriol? game is great, possibly one of the best games Bethesda ever made, why not just play it or wait for the already announced ps release before being so salty?
PlayStation is a 3rd party publisher too, what is your point :lollipop_confused:

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Cakeboxer

Member
Yeah it’s like playing the best Indiana Jones movie since Last Crusade. There are some truly great Indy moment, cool story, traps, mysteries, some humor, lots of locations, and the villain is just perfect. Really shows that the dev love the old movies.

Unfortunately I think Indiana Jones is kinda over for movies. They went digital with the last one but idk if that’s a good way forward. They would need to somehow replace Harrison Ford, new actor like they’ve done with James Bond. Is it possible? Don’t know. Maybe they could do another attempt at young Indiana Jones with a new actor that grows into something new and iconic?
Perhaps you could ai him younger for 1 more movie, on the other hand he is already 82..... I wouldn't mind replacing him with someone that looks like him but is in his 30s/40s.

But then again it's Disney, perhaps they hire a bald Latino chick to replace him.
 

ikbalCO

Member
PlayStation is a 3rd party publisher too, what is your point :lollipop_confused:

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you know what I mean is exactly. PS as a physical console is still Sony's biggest money maker we all know they will be investing a lot of money in the future of PS business while MS also is investing a lot but they are stepping concretely away from the console space. you do not have to be an analyst to see that. it is just obvious.
 

The Cockatrice

I'm retarded?
On steam its doing poorly but I doubt it had a big budget and gamepass prolly helped. If they can make the puzzles better and have more bombastic scenes and not just 3 of them, then sure it'll be great.
 

TheKratos

Member
insomniac leak showed that they do not sell the license in the general sense. they kinda partner with the studio and take handsome cut off the profits. they are also super invested with the quality of the end result since it represents how healthy the franchise is. so it is only reasonable that Disney is super happy with how the game is received and the critical acclaimed.
That makes more sense then, thanks.
 

Humdinger

Gold Member
Of course Disney wants more. They own the license, so they get paid when Microsoft uses it. Naturally, they want MS to use it again, because they get more money.

It may have something to do with the reception of the game, too - the critical/gamer reception I mean, not sales reception necessarily. They see that MS (unlike Disney themselves) honored the franchise, and so they're okay with another round.
 

Topher

Identifies as young
You have to ask?

The people who can’t accept it’s good, and even worse can’t accept even any hint existing that it’s successful aren’t game fans, they’re Sony fans and Microsoft haters. It’s sad, but not unexpected.

Ignore it. Game’s great. Best of the year.

Ignore what? Trying to find the Indy "hate" here, but all I see is folks looking sideways at Jez Corden.
 

mdkirby

Gold Member
I mean I hope we get more as it sounds like a great game. That in no way means it’s a commercial success tho, Disney throw good money after bad all the time, so I don’t think them wanting more really says anything much. They also view it as brand extension, so it holds value for them beyond sales, as it maintains interest in the IP.
 

Buggy Loop

Member
YES! More Indiana! More!

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I still find it cute all this concern on steam CCU when it doesn’t mean Jack shit for single player games, especially one that had early access and on gamepass. I’ve said this time and time again. Even for Sony games when Sony ponies are happy a port performs with low CCU on PC and they hope Sony goes back exclusive to their plastic box.


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12k ccu on steam. Tiny bit less than forspoken but forspoken also had full prices sales on ps5. more than steam probably.



Forspoken had no such thing

And this is not gamepass, so I mean..

Steam CCU means nada except to know which GAAS is the most popular at a given night.

Then... indiana had GP but gp is not exactly sales.

That’s for Microsoft to punch numbers in at the end of the day. We shouldn’t care. It’s like trying to evaluate if companies make money out of streaming services for movies. For every person that just subscribe a month and then plays 50 movies and cancels (not profitable), there’s probably a thousands who just have the account on auto monthly payment and shows up once a month (very profitable). I guess it’s like that for gamepass. In fact early on, I subscribed 2 years to game pass because of a deal before prices went higher… ended up using it maybe 6 months?
 

DForce

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I still find it cute all this concern on steam CCU when it doesn’t mean Jack shit for single player games, especially one that had early access and on gamepass. I’ve said this time and time again. Even for Sony games when Sony ponies are happy a port performs with low CCU on PC and they hope Sony goes back exclusive to their plastic box.

It's not just the low CCU, it's how the game is tracking overall.

It's not in the Top 50 Paid Games on Xbox.

It was in the top 40 for one week in the UK sales chart. It's not in the top 90 on Top Paid Games list on Xbox UK.
 
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rofif

Can’t Git Gud
YES! More Indiana! More!

I Love You Flirting GIF by Sky


I still find it cute all this concern on steam CCU when it doesn’t mean Jack shit for single player games, especially one that had early access and on gamepass. I’ve said this time and time again. Even for Sony games when Sony ponies are happy a port performs with low CCU on PC and they hope Sony goes back exclusive to their plastic box.






Forspoken had no such thing

And this is not gamepass, so I mean..

Steam CCU means nada except to know which GAAS is the most popular at a given night.



That’s for Microsoft to punch numbers in at the end of the day. We shouldn’t care. It’s like trying to evaluate if companies make money out of streaming services for movies. For every person that just subscribe a month and then plays 50 movies and cancels (not profitable), there’s probably a thousands who just have the account on auto monthly payment and shows up once a month (very profitable). I guess it’s like that for gamepass. In fact early on, I subscribed 2 years to game pass because of a deal before prices went higher… ended up using it maybe 6 months?
Steam ccu means a lot. It shows the release engagement. The game is 30 hours long so so it's not like people will miss each other for ccu.\
And as for sales... you mean xbox physical sales?! No way
And forspoken had same ccu on steam + it sold digitally and physically on ps5 adn we don't know these numbers.
Also, it is rumored to have costed 100mil which is not that bad all things considered. indiana was probably more.

I can only find articles that forspoken was lackluster but also some posts that it sold at nr1 in france or something and 3rd in japan(but that's not a lot)
 

Ironbunny

Member
Liked the game even though I still feel the first person choice was cancer. Also puzzles were too easy but I'm also glad you didnt need to travel forward and back to solve them. The game itself is much better than the two last movies. Also learned same Kara-TE!...lol. The game is well worth a sequel.

Played it on gamepass
Stealth..

Uninstalled

Muah, I always went guns blazing. No stealth needed.
 
Ignore what? Trying to find the Indy "hate" here, but all I see is folks looking sideways at Jez Corden.
I said what I think already. Wanting it to fail is what I was referring too as hate (I didn’t use that word).

And similarly, if Corden says something negative about Xbox he’s a good source, if it’s positive he’s ’looked at sideways’. Tiresome, but expected.

For the record, I ignore everything he says as he’s proven himself to be unreliable over and over.
 

Fess

Member
Source - Jez Corden from Windowscentral.

Take with a handful of salt. If anything they probably already had a multi game deal with Microsoft.

Trust them to spin it saying the first game was such a huge success that Disney wants more.
I’ve only played the Steam version but there isn’t actually a single Microsoft logo to be found in this game. As far as I can see this is Bethesda publishing, Machinegames developing and collaborating with Lucasfilm and Disney.
I guess Satya is holding the wallet but I don’t know how much control Microsoft actually have here.
 

Topher

Identifies as young
I said what I think already. Wanting it to fail is what I was referring too as hate (I didn’t use that word).

And similarly, if Corden says something negative about Xbox he’s a good source, if it’s positive he’s ’looked at sideways’. Tiresome, but expected.

For the record, I ignore everything he says as he’s proven himself to be unreliable over and over.

Hate or "haters". Same difference, but easy to just dismiss any sales/performance discussion as such if that is the case. As far as Corden, if he says something negative about Xbox then it is much more believable than if he says something positive because of the fact he is a massive Xbox fan. Then again, he engages heavily in self-promotion with all this stuff and that should be taken into account as well.
 

Muddy

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I’ve only played the Steam version but there isn’t actually a single Microsoft logo to be found in this game. As far as I can see this is Bethesda publishing, Machinegames developing and collaborating with Lucasfilm and Disney.
I guess Satya is holding the wallet but I don’t know how much control Microsoft actually have here.

Microsoft own Bethesda. They are in full control regardless of when a deal was made.
 
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In terms of revenue generated, the game is not doing well in the slightest from what i've heard.

Also, Disney never picks up the phone and does something like this. In fact, just as a general rule of thumb, if you ever hear anyone ascribe a personality to a mega corp, you can likely toss whatever they're saying in the garbage can.

From experience, working with Disney and on a licensed property, these days, is really not all that complicated. As long as the pitch is good and you're willing to work within the creative outlines they want you to agree to, the only thing the folks at Disney actually want is for you to pay the licensing costs. So in this situation, the scenario I could believe is that Booty called up his 3rd party managers at Disney and asked to start hashing out terms for a new potential Indy game.
 

Fess

Member
Microsoft own Bethesda. They are in full control regardless of when a deal was made.
Okay well I just find it odd that there is no Microsoft info within the game if it’s their product/deal. Didn’t even spot anything in the end credits where they seemed to list everybody’s dog and grandma too. But, didn’t read every single line, the text was looooooooong
 
Hate or "haters". Same difference, but easy to just dismiss any sales/performance discussion as such if that is the case. As far as Corden, if he says something negative about Xbox then it is much more believable than if he says something positive because of the fact he is a massive Xbox fan. Then again, he engages heavily in self-promotion with all this stuff and that should be taken into account as well.
If everyone was as reasoned in their thinking it would be better. But sadly, they are not.

Personally, don’t care about sales - a good game is a good game, a bad one is a bad one. What we’ve seen with Indiana Jones is that, once it became clear it was well liked/reviewed there was a noticeable and immediate pivot to speculating about sales from many to make themselves feel better. Which, to me at least, clearly demonstrates they are more interested in it failing than whether it’s any good or not, and that’s just weird to me.

As the average age of gamers increases it seems the mental age doesn’t keep pace
 

Hookshot

Member
Does Indy kill anyone who isn't a Nazi in this one? If he's allowed to kill natives then it could be promising, if he's only allowed to kill fellow white men then maybe some Soviets could show up like in Crystal skull.
 

Topher

Identifies as young
If everyone was as reasoned in their thinking it would be better. But sadly, they are not.

Personally, don’t care about sales - a good game is a good game, a bad one is a bad one. What we’ve seen with Indiana Jones is that, once it became clear it was well liked/reviewed there was a noticeable and immediate pivot to speculating about sales from many to make themselves feel better. Which, to me at least, clearly demonstrates they are more interested in it failing than whether it’s any good or not, and that’s just weird to me.

As the average age of gamers increases it seems the mental age doesn’t keep pace

Eh.....there is always a console warrior aspect to any first party game. Astro Bot was on the receiving end of that not too long ago. I care about sales because if a game I like does well then the chances that I'll get another increases.

Does Indy kill anyone who isn't a Nazi in this one? If he's allowed to kill natives then it could be promising, if he's only allowed to kill fellow white men then maybe some Soviets could show up like in Crystal skull.

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Buggy Loop

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You were using a much higher CCU and sales for HFW to suggest this was a trend of PC gamers not wanting these type of games that Sony makes. What are you talking about regarding "concern with CCU" now?

This post?

I mean, that's my personal tastes, where am I saying that CCU matters. I'm stating the obvious, what do PC gamers want. For sure a Bloodborne would be atomic bomb levels compared to Horizon, the fanbase of Souls on PC has accumulated to ridiculous levels and the blue balling of the rumours of Bloodborne is just edging a whole community. There's no edging for Horizon.

I'll help you since you seem to do a half job of even looking up.

ratchet, Returnal

In fact, more than ever we have proof CCU means fuck all, even PRE HellDivers 2

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Sony went from $35M → $80M → $250M → $450M from 2020 to 2023 from these abysmal CCUs

Nobody has any comparative to Steam CCUs because all other platform holders don't have the balls to show them. So again, CCUs for single player games, worth fuck all.
 
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