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Phawx said:
There seems to be one change that enabled turboth from the get go

That's about it.

I found a change!

The A button is yellow and not green.
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Any noticeable difference in build quality? I remember someone saying the new batch were better but didn't really say how.
 
Phawx said:
There seems to be one change that enabled turboth from the get go

That's about it.

I found a change!

The A button is yellow and not green.
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Yellow? Nooooo! That's what Y should be!!
 
Ooooooo shit. Yo guys

Looks like the 8700 might be better than the 8750.

I gotta do some more testing.

Metrold Prime is 50FPS out of the box.

Edit: well I changed the battery saver in gpu settings in windows
 
Phawx said:
Ooooooo shit. Yo guys

Looks like the 8700 might be better than the 8750.

I gotta do some more testing.

Metrold Prime is 50FPS out of the box.

Edit: well I changed the battery saver in gpu settings in windows
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Damn, GPD wasn't lying about the issues? Interested to hear more.
 
Phawx said:
Ooooooo shit. Yo guys

Looks like the 8700 might be better than the 8750.

I gotta do some more testing.

Metrold Prime is 50FPS out of the box.

Edit: well I changed the battery saver in gpu settings in windows
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Oh woooow, those GPDWIN GAMER videos weren't flukes after all?? Crazy

I was really close to paying a ridic amount for 8750 too.

GPD had been getting bad press lately, but good on them if the SoC change wasn't purely supply related with "stability" as window dressing.
 
Latest beta seems to have stabled it out I think...

I'm going to 3dmark test and then I'm going to open it up in the bios
 
What an interesting turn of events if the 8700 is the better model.
 
GhostTrick said:
So... In the light of this... Which one will you keep Phawx ? :p
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Both natch :)

But I'm going to use the silver shim on the 8700. I think I'll use a copper shim on the 8750.

Sorry doing this from my phone, could someone post the vid on indiegogo? Might make people a bit happier to have the 8700
 
Phawx said:
Both natch :)

But I'm going to use the silver shim on the 8700. I think I'll use a copper shim on the 8750.

Sorry doing this from my phone, could someone post the vid on indiegogo? Might make people a bit happier to have the 8700
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.........wow. That's crazy. I would have never imagined a 20 fps difference. Thanks for the showcase!

Now I'm hoping I don't get an 8750 by some fluke.
 
Music to my ears. I wouldn't mind seeing a test comparing BSNES being run on both.

DinoDirect still hasn't shipped out preorders :(
 
CO_Andy said:
Music to my ears. I wouldn't mind seeing a test comparing BSNES being run on both.

DinoDirect still hasn't shipped out preorders :(
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I don't think you're going to see an increase in BSNES. The performance improvements on the 8700 seem to be entirely from the GPU. CPU benchmarks clearly have the 8750 win by 7%.
 
Well this is an interesting turn of events. Can't wait to try PCSX2 again on this and see if there are any improvements there.

Did 3DMark give any significant results?
 
brainpann said:
Well this is an interesting turn of events. Can't wait to try PCSX2 again on this and see if there are any improvements there.

Did 3DMark give any significant results?
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So far 3dmark scores are lower even when I tamper with BIOS settings. It seems to perform far better when energy efficiency is enabled. If I enable settings to use more power it throttles faster.

8750 is still winning in 3Dmark tests.

Almost done with my clean install of the 8700 and putting in group policy edits, registry tweaks and services optimization. And then I can start testing again.
 
Lonely1 said:
CPU or GPU socres, Pawg?
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Doing everything from my phone right now. I'll get the results from the two for you soon.

Sorry for the delay on stuff, just want to get my system where I like it before installing stuff.


Here is my best 8750 score: http://www.3dmark.com/cg/3831699

Here is my best 8700 score: http://www.3dmark.com/cg/3821948

Funfact: It took raising the throttle crazy high on the 8750 to get that score. That 8700 score is with default latest bios (2 changes I did GPU Turbo enable plus setting memory timings to fast) and all battery options enabled. If I raise the throttle limit, scores on the 8700 plummet.
 
Phawx said:
Doing everything from my phone right now. I'll get the results from the two for you soon.

Sorry for the delay on stuff, just want to get my system where I like it before installing stuff.


Here is my best 8750 score: http://www.3dmark.com/cg/3831699

Here is my best 8700 score: http://www.3dmark.com/cg/3831699

Funfact: It took raising the throttle crazy high on the 8750 to get that score. That 8700 score is with default latest bios (2 changes I did GPU Turbo enable plus setting memory timings to fast) and all battery options enabled. If I raise the throttle limit, scores on the 8700 plummet.
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Hey man, those are the same links.
 
HowardRoark said:
Fascinating. Could it be that GPD was actually telling the truth about the 8750?
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How could a better processor result in worse performance? Must be a driver issue or some other tweaks.
 
Bboy AJ said:
How could a better processor result in worse performance? Must be a driver issue or some other tweaks.
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Yea, Intel did something with the GPU that clearly wrecked performance. I'm only guessing that it's the fix they did for transparency textures. Because otherwise, the GPU are exactly the same. Same amount of EU. Same Frequency. Same generation.

Truly vexxing.

Someone on Dingoonity is saying their 8750 version is playing Metroid Prime faster than mine. So maybe it's just mine?
 
Phawx said:
Yea, Intel did something with the GPU that clearly wrecked performance. I'm only guessing that it's the fix they did for transparency textures. Because otherwise, the GPU are exactly the same. Same amount of EU. Same Frequency. Same generation.

Truly vexxing.

Someone on Dingoonity is saying their 8750 version is playing Metroid Prime faster than mine. So maybe it's just mine?
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Hey phawx could you try running warframe on it I am very curious how it preforms with low settings. Also do you have a link showing how to do the heatsink mod you've been talking about doing.
 
8bitForLife said:
Hey phawx could you try running warframe on it I am very curious how it preforms with low settings. Also do you have a link showing how to do the heatsink mod you've been talking about doing.
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I haven't done the mod yet. The 8700 being better than my 8750 has put the brakes on. I'm not sure what I should be doing at this point.
 
Phawx said:
I haven't done the mod yet. The 8700 being better than my 8750 has put the brakes on. I'm not sure what I should be doing at this point.
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the 8750 probably just had a really bad yeld. my 4700k i7 had a bad yeld for cooling and I was a lucky enough to get one from the good batch and cooling is fine on it.

Ya but I ask about warframe because it seems to run very well on low spec pc's.
 
Phawx said:
I haven't done the mod yet. The 8700 being better than my 8750 has put the brakes on. I'm not sure what I should be doing at this point.
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Looking at the follow up video another 8750 posted and it would seem that your performance is a QC issue?

The fps difference between the working metroid prime 8750 and 8700 seems to be between 1-3fps depending on the scene.
 
megabadd said:
Looking at the follow up video another 8750 posted and it would seem that your performance is a QC issue?

The fps difference between the working metroid prime 8750 and 8700 seems to be between 1-3fps depending on the scene.
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Yea, haha, looks like I may have got a bum 8750. Or the heatsink wasn't properly done. They taped up the entire heatsink.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWJ75EvAxs0

I'm not going to wait for my silver shim because I don't even know if this is going to work. But I'll give it a go.
 
GhostTrick said:
Looking at another Metroid Prime video on 8750, the guy seems to get similar performances as your. I think it really may be related to 8750.
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Yea it's just my specific 8750. I'm trying to fix the heatsink now. I've literally done everything. Tons of different drivers, tons of different BIOS, tons of different Dolphin configs.
 
Phawx said:
Yea it's just my specific 8750. I'm trying to fix the heatsink now. I've literally done everything. Tons of different drivers, tons of different BIOS, tons of different Dolphin configs.
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if you correct about that freaking tape phawx maybe you should report it to gpd and see what they say. maybe theyll switch back to the 8750 if they can fix the tape issue.
 
8bitForLife said:
if you correct about that freaking tape phawx maybe you should report it to gpd and see what they say. maybe theyll switch back to the 8750 if they can fix the tape issue.
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Seeing as two people already did the Metroid prime test and are pulling 47 FPS whereas I pull 30 FPS in that area, I think it's just mine.

This 8750 has a 9/9/16 sticker on the inside. This was literally one of the first 8750's to be made. It might have been returned from a JD.com person and they just shipped it back out. Who knows. If the shim doesn't work, I'll see if I can go about getting it exchanged.

I already applied the copper shim to the heatsink and removed a square from the tape. Here's hoping that this fixes the problem.
 
Phawx said:
Seeing as two people already did the Metroid prime test and are pulling 47 FPS whereas I pull 30 FPS in that area, I think it's just mine.

This 8750 has a 9/9/16 sticker on the inside. This was literally one of the first 8750's to be made. It might have been returned from a JD.com person and they just shipped it back out. Who knows. If the shim doesn't work, I'll see if I can go about getting it exchanged.

I already applied the copper shim to the heatsink and removed a square from the tape. Here's hoping that this fixes the problem.
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the peoples whos 8750 work might have gotten a later off the production line version and they might not have the tape on it. well have to see if your fix helps.
 
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