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Information blowout on Marvel's 'Venomverse' event
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LordRaptor
Member
Yeah, can't remember the issue number but its them versus the vampire avengers IIRC
Duane Cunningham
Member
The Flash Venom status quo was a rare thing in superhero comics: actual character progression.
Eddie was a repentant civilian, working at a homeless shelter. The symbiote had been long ago confiscated by Shield. That's a pretty good, logical conclusion for the classic Venom.
Flash Thompson, the bully jock from the old days, joined the Army after high school, grew up a lot, and became far more nuanced a character, especially after he got both of his legs blown off in Iraq. That too is a pretty good progression for a classic, one dimensional character.
Then Flash as a war hero vet was asked by the government to take the symbiote for a spin. He got his legs back (while wearing the symbiote), went on missions, got to be one of the NY Supers that he always idolized.
Then he wound up in space on a mission, met Quill and the gang, and decided to quit his job, keep the symbiote, and stay in space. Chill on Knowhere for a while, meet exotic civilizations and learn more about the symbiote's species. Have space adventures with some Cosmic Marvel deep cuts.
All of it was a long, interesting story, and one that organically progressed. It was the opposite of what usually happens with most Marvel & DC characters, which is that they have to be corporate logos who never progress or change for decades, or when they do, have to be reset to what most people remember.
Eddie putting the suit back on and becoming Venom again after all this is dumb. It's that reset button that always has to be pressed sooner or later.
Adult Cyclops and Adult Jean Grey will come back to life someday, and they'll live in the mansion with Xavier. Peter Parker will be broke again. Logan will come back to life and Laura will disappear. Every time, the lazy creator who does it will do interview and say "we're getting him/her back to his/her roots where he/she SHOULD BE!!". And we'll get a bunch of dumb, repetitious derivative stories, just like we're about to get with Eddie and the Symbiote.
Eddie was a repentant civilian, working at a homeless shelter. The symbiote had been long ago confiscated by Shield. That's a pretty good, logical conclusion for the classic Venom.
Flash Thompson, the bully jock from the old days, joined the Army after high school, grew up a lot, and became far more nuanced a character, especially after he got both of his legs blown off in Iraq. That too is a pretty good progression for a classic, one dimensional character.
Then Flash as a war hero vet was asked by the government to take the symbiote for a spin. He got his legs back (while wearing the symbiote), went on missions, got to be one of the NY Supers that he always idolized.
Then he wound up in space on a mission, met Quill and the gang, and decided to quit his job, keep the symbiote, and stay in space. Chill on Knowhere for a while, meet exotic civilizations and learn more about the symbiote's species. Have space adventures with some Cosmic Marvel deep cuts.
All of it was a long, interesting story, and one that organically progressed. It was the opposite of what usually happens with most Marvel & DC characters, which is that they have to be corporate logos who never progress or change for decades, or when they do, have to be reset to what most people remember.
Eddie putting the suit back on and becoming Venom again after all this is dumb. It's that reset button that always has to be pressed sooner or later.
Adult Cyclops and Adult Jean Grey will come back to life someday, and they'll live in the mansion with Xavier. Peter Parker will be broke again. Logan will come back to life and Laura will disappear. Every time, the lazy creator who does it will do interview and say "we're getting him/her back to his/her roots where he/she SHOULD BE!!". And we'll get a bunch of dumb, repetitious derivative stories, just like we're about to get with Eddie and the Symbiote.
christiankid7
Member
MAYHEM IS BACK!!!!!
Hopefully Mayhem and Earth X Mayday get time to interact
AntiVenom is alive! He is alive in the people he helped!
quite literally, I believe.
That's the one.
If they're going thorough, I'd also like to see the Web of Shadows symbiotes.
I would also like to see the blue MvC Venom.
I'd love to see a Black Cat I can like again, and a MVC Venom page would be cool, like MVC Spider-man had in Spider-Verse.
There's one going on right now called Lazarus Contract and just before that there was Night of the Monster Men.
You don't seem to understand what a crossover event is.
PaulExcellent
Member
I fucking haaaaaaaate Eddie Brock as Venom again. Dude was making actual progress in the comics. Fuck it, give him Anti Venom again or keep him as a supporting role in ASM, but don't ruin the best character change you've done in years.
Literally the worst way to bring him back to being an "anti-hero/villain/whatever sells merchandise".
Literally the worst way to bring him back to being an "anti-hero/villain/whatever sells merchandise".
This opinion was really well put and I agree with you 100%. I am not 6 years old anymore, and the edgelord original venom isn't going to keep me reading.
Imperial Bishop
Banned
Please God no.
yanipheonu
Member
Yep, that's sure a comic event.
Frostinferno
Member
I've always loved the ridiculousness of symbiote designs. Down for more craziness anytime. Robbie Reyes in particular:
Who is the red/black chick and the big armored voidwalker thing?
Who is the red/black chick and the big armored voidwalker thing?
Nightwing. Nightwing has somehow endured.
... though I miss his time as Batman.
Ready to broker another movie deal, I'm sure.
christiankid7
Member
Me too
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
And web sling like Spider-Man.
Permanently A
Junior Member
People like Brock's Venom over Flash? I really dug Remender's Flash run
The Broken Ska Record
Member
It looks like there's a Web of Shadows version of All-New Wolverine on the covers. It's a female form and only has two claws.That's the one.
If they're going thorough, I'd also like to see the Web of Shadows symbiotes.
I would also like to see the blue MvC Venom.
JSoup
Banned
BoogieWoogie
Banned
No Costa's just a hack who went for the cheap and easy option after he decided to take the symbiote off an actual likeable well realized character and gave it to his OC Sasuke.
Hands down worst Venom. This guy sucked.
I hope Eddie finally bites it.
IrishNinja
Member
hype! i was a fan of flash's run, but this could be cool, and the current (?) guy having the suit is just about the worst one yet
thank you
thank you
don't worry, Costa doesn't know when to quit so Sasuke is replacing Flash as the protagonist of the backup stories in Venom soon.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Kelley Jones fan? My man!
I mean, Eddie's actually had character development for the past decade, but I guess if we want to make his one obsession in life to get revenge against Spiderman again and reverse all that development, sure, we can go back to him.
yeah just throw his character development down the toilet in a single issue.
Huh, I didn't know he worked for Marvel. I was introduced to him through Secret Six and really dig him. Seems like he's not done much since Megalopolis with Simone though.
InsaneTiger
Member
People have to stop buying this stuff, but it won't happen. Events are the new thang, kind of like Games as a Service is the new thang in games.
Labolas
Member
Hype for the event. It sounds like it's going to be big dumb fun. With that said man I miss Flash as Venom. The best written Venom and the one with the most character depth. It makes sense for Eddie to be the best one suited for type of situation but I hope that Flash is a major character as well.