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I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
What's the customer service going to be like?
Or the returns?
Or, delayed by weather?
Or the returns?
Or, delayed by weather?
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Introducing Amazon Go and the worlds most advanced shopping technology
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Excellent assessment
It is clear people are not ready to actually vote for that until they are hit by the effects.
You need access to mail and a telephone to get a job, so a smartphone would be one of the cheapest options to get into that. It is why homeless people often have cheap smartphones.
You left out the part where they drink and smoke themselves to death or do drugs or get fatter and lazier than we already are and get in trouble.
Only a minority will have the intellect or self control to take advantage of this future you describe. Not to mention how much more ignorant of a society we become due to education not really being a pathway to economic freedom.
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As for stopping shoplifting I'm sure your credentials (Amazon account) has to be activated as you walk in and you are maybe given a visual cue to identify that you are approved to shop. People will note your credentials (payment guarantee) as you enter rather than now which is done when you leave.
Fried Food
Banned
So much yes. Future is looking better every day.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Everyone is so worried about jobs that can't even pay a living wage.
Anyway, this is pretty neat.
Anyway, this is pretty neat.
Cant wait to not be able to buy shit because my iPhone broke or my battery died.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
There's probably a cell phone store right next to the Amazon go, bro
Can't wait until Amazon is smart enough to offer a cheap smartphone into which users can login while shopping.
Yeah, I love to pay to be able to just buy stuff.
And all these great opporturnities for hacker to get on my creditcard informations.
RastaMentality
Banned
Well that's the same as losing a credit card or a wallet, isn't it?
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Less a phone and a tab like device connected to their wifi
TheSecondSpitter
Member
Just wait, this will one of the arguments in favor of getting subdermal RFID implants.
I am pretty sure my iPhone battery runs out more often then people lose their wallet or creditcard.
Yeah! I'm not surprised at this bullshit though. Have you seen their online store? You need a fucking INTERNET CONNECTION to be able to shop online. And some sort of personal computing device too.
I just love having to pay for all that just to be able to shop online.
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You mean you've never shopped online? Used your card in any store every? Hmm.
tearsofash
Member
Okay, but how will they take food stamps? Also how will they stop people from stealing?
Because a Onlineshop and a groccery shop where you actually go to are the same now?
You should pay attention when you phone runs as often out of battery as you loose your wallet.
At least I rarely use devices that get handed out public to everyone who enters a store to order stuff from a online shop.
Lol it's the same situation though, you're worried about hackers taking your information.
That can happen ANYWHERE.
I dont see how this is any more dangerous than contactless cards / atm machines / card readers at supermarkets.
Good, then there is no problem make this stuff way more easier then it should be.
Does everyone who enters a supermarket have access to these devices and can install apps/try to break the secruity measurements? Yes, of course happens a lot of times, too, but I imagine having a generic phone in your hand while wandering around makes manipulating way more easier.
And: I dont use this either.
Not shopping at this store sounds like the best plan for you to be honest.
Interested in how they claim it adds your items to a virtual basket when you pick it up, how proximity issues are resolved and such.
As for the worried people, that's just their nature they can't help it and be reasonable and understanding. I've had someone ask me not to scan their contactless card and to instead use it normally because someone might take the money.
Like who? The shop you're buying stuff from? OH NO.
As for the worried people, that's just their nature they can't help it and be reasonable and understanding. I've had someone ask me not to scan their contactless card and to instead use it normally because someone might take the money.
Like who? The shop you're buying stuff from? OH NO.
Yeah, thats why I hope that they fail with that shit until we get solutions to help the millions of people who would get even less money in the first place. Cause lets face it, when America gets apeshit over healthcare they wont give free money to live to people who need it.
Laughable inconveniants like a shop that depends on the batteries of their customers instead of hard cash that not suddenly disappears after a few hours are even a secondary concern.
navii
My fantasy is that my girlfriend was actually a young high school girl.
Yup thats the most important FAQ that I would like an A to. What happens when shit goes wrong?
I used my credit card to pay for parking ticket, the thing crashed and did not print out the ticket, so I tried it out again and it worked, then I check my statement and 2 charges. I'm not gonna waste my time on the phone explaining this situation to someone who doesnt give a shit over $8... ill stop ranting now.
From now on before I use anything to do with money I'm going to find out how easy it is to get issues solved before I spend.
I see this stuff in every amazon thread. I have worked at amazon for 5+ years, started as a temp warehouse employee and have moved my way up. I have moved around the country with them, been to multiple Amazon Fulfillment and Sort Centers, they do not treat their employees bad at all and have a safety first mentality that is sometimes so over the top its annoying. Full time employees get healthcare/401k match/yearly stocks. There are hour limitations for the floor workers, nobody is working 24/7 at these places. A lot sites have an annual public tour if you live by one you can see whats actually going on in there. Amazon has treated me very well.
Anyways store looks really cool hope one comes to the Milwaukee area.
Who says anything about paying? I don't need to pay to use the self checkout system at my supermarket. As for hackers, they also target card terminals so that is a moot point.
Stuff like a gas pump puts a reserve amount on your account. Amazon might do the same, charging you only for real when you leave. And of course, that assumes you don't pay with a credit card where that is completely your problem.
A generic phone in your hand that Amazon can completely control. That shit will be locked down heavily.
Let's build you some windmills you can fight against.
The industrial revolution was turbulent and a lot of people got fucked over in the process. But in the end we are better off after than we were before, i'm sure you will agree.
This is no different. There are difficult times ahead, for sure. But automation will happen regardless, and we will all be better off in the end because we will all be able to provide for ourselves without having to work for a living and be able to pursuit other goals than a corporate career.
Or alternatively, we will all live in district 9 while the rich elite who own all the means of production lives in gated communities. But deciding that is a political process, not a technological.
Secondary opporturnity sounds more likely right now.
And hey, I honestly dont care if the people in 100 years are better of but I have to suffer and starve for a couple of decades because economy breaks down because of mass unemployment. This a way different then for example doing my part to save the planet for future generations.
SolarMystic
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Or how about the government works on real issues like making sure people don't have to be at the mercy of crappy jobs to live comfortably.
Or we can just whine at technological progress and bring back horse drawn carriages. What about all those lost jobs!
What? You mean sales tax or are you talking a convenience tax?
CadetMahoney
Member
You just go into the red with your bank / credit card. You get nice little fee in addition to high interest/charges accrued per every day you stay past your authorized overdraft.
That's how the system works. The banks wins and Amazon still gets their money. It's impossible to not get into debt, the bank is very happy to let you go past zero.
If you reach a point where the bank "hard blocks" the card a little alarm will ring in the shop alerting the many security guards and your location they can see via their google glasses.
NullPointer
Member
I bet you we'll see people get used to this only to end up accidentally stealing things from other non-auto-checkout stores out of habit.
I take a lot of cabs, and use apps to do the hailing and paying, but when I flag them down off the street I've had a few drivers have to bug me as I was walking out of the cab to remind me that I still needed to pay. D'oh!
Thebeardofknowledge
Banned
This is kinda of cool
But this will fail hard
But this will fail hard
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Why?
There are self checkout stores all over my city and they work just fine, this is just the next step after that.
NullPointer
Member
I don't think so. I'd bet that, short of severe technical difficulties this will take off and spread very quickly, starting with tech hub cities and out from there.
Kaneda Shotaro
Member
Yes please. Fuck retail jobs. I've been waiting for this for a long time.
Thebeardofknowledge
Banned
Firstly, it looks like nothing more than an upscale convenient store to me. Second amazon fails at almost everything they currently do and have just gotten worse over the last 5 years.
Ultimately I think this will work about just about as good as fresh & easy did.
just like mickey D automation. machines taking ppls jobs.
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