Exactly, which is why it's good that Amazon is working to automate and eliminate jobs so people don't have to suffer.
I mean, I see your complaints but I'm not sure what raising it in this thread will do.
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Exactly, which is why it's good that Amazon is working to automate and eliminate jobs so people don't have to suffer.
I mean, I see your complaints but I'm not sure what raising it in this thread will do.
This is what I was wondering myself. I just don't see the big deal for me as a consumer. I'd prefer a service that allowed me to order food and have it delivered immediately...something that already mostly exists. I guess it would be better if I could order broccoli and raw chicken and have that delivered but even that isn't so far off from something that already exists.
This. The sooner we get folks off jobs and able to live their lives as they want without having to do 40 hour work weeks, the better.
Slay, Amazon, slay.
Some folks want to head out and grab what they need. Some would rather wait to have it delivered. It's really an option. Maybe Amazon will have "Delivery Guys" like Pizza places have if they build enough of these "Go" stores around the nation in Urban areas while folks that aren't Urban will have to go to the "Go" store physically to get their stuff instantly.
Even Tesco has the scan as you shop things in some places now.
But yeah, this is fucking amazing. Hope it comes near me I want to try it out.
It's not really solving a problem per se, but it's introducing a huge convenience. Given the option to wait five minutes in line to buy a drink vs just going in and taking it, why would I do the former?
Stumpokapow
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I don't how "computer vision" would play a role in this--your phone is in your pocket, which I guess would mean they have a camera in the shelf assembly that detects the item and uses your face to know you're the one that took it?
AlexMeloche
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What happens if your cellphone die while in-store, or if you don't have a data plan/your wifi turns off?
RFID, I'd take it. I dunno if phones have RFID tech built in, but it would be possible to have RFID chips put into the UPC area where the phone's wifi picks it up and registers it in the software. Similar to how Libraries or some retail stores check-out things now a days but on your phone.
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I guess that's why it's called a "beta/test run," XD?
Dr. Black Jack
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A great idea until the software inevitably fucks up, over/under charges you and you don't have a face-to-face human being to fix it. Or you need to find something in the store/need advice/etc. The theft will be insane.
The main selling point of brick-and-mortar is live customer service, and until there are androids that move past the uncanny valley there will be human beings providing it.
Tunnel scanning is cool though.
The main selling point of brick-and-mortar is live customer service, and until there are androids that move past the uncanny valley there will be human beings providing it.
Tunnel scanning is cool though.
i disagree if there isn't a cost benefit to consumers. If prices on items are going to be the same as they are without automation why should we support a company that is getting rid of jobs and pocketing the difference? Obviously we need to work on transitioning people into jobs that won't be automated but I don't really see a reason to support automation if the only benefit we receive is minor connivence.
Considering what is shown in the video, they must be using some sort of tracking tech. It'd be nice if they provided some technical info, but from that short marketing video the phone doesn't seem to provide any more utility than say, a membership card with a QR code on it
It's already tied to your Amazon account, so you get charged I assume. The video doesn't show anyone tapping out, only tapping in.
Then you can't shop there I guess
A shop that can track every single customer and item for sale can detect when someone who hasn't signed in is taking items off a shelf. It's probably considerably harder to shoplift than in a traditional store where you can just shove something in your pocket and walk out past the checkout/buy a single low value item while stealing other things.
Are you trying to prove nothing is perfect?
Anyway, have loaner phones in the store?
This is why universal income is needed. If this leads to more efficient lives, then I am for it.
A company shouldn't stifle its innovative capabilities for the sake of things you have mentioned. I feel like this will allow for the discussion of universal income to be opened up more now that jobs are on the line.
That's what it seems like. The initial scan probably associates your face/body to an Amazon account and it just visually tracks you while you're in the store.
They have this now and it's called shoplifting
Wait - are you saying that the 2 minutes you spend in the checkout line is the thing keeping you from loneliness right now?
I was initially thinking that going through some kind of gateway and that every item has an RFID type sticker. Then it would tie your account to the items you took... but this looks much more involved than that.
I went to my local library branch recently and they now had self-check out machines which have some pretty magical technology. You can place a full stack of books on the tray and it will check them all out at once.
So in this image above, all 7 books would be checked out at once and essentially instantaneously after you scan your card. I was frankly absolutely floored.
So in this image above, all 7 books would be checked out at once and essentially instantaneously after you scan your card. I was frankly absolutely floored.
Phoenix RISING
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Yeah we currently Outsource the software from a German company.
We ain't ready here in America
Saint Gregory
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I agree with this 100% but I read a couple months ago that a teenager developed a perfectly functioning Lawyer AI Bot. So... we're all kind of fucked.
Really? The worst part of grocery shopping is the check out since you gotta deal with all the mistakes every customer in front of you inevitably makes to slow you down
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
There used to be a commercial in Canada probably a decade ago that predicted this kind of thing in the future. I showed a guy stuffing items in his jacket like he was shoplifting and he got stopped on the way out by an employee like he was busted but it was just because he didn't take a receipt.
Can't remember what the ad was for, maybe Interac.
EDIT: I found it, it was for IBM and I was right, looks like it was 10 years ago lol - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eob532iEpqk
Can't remember what the ad was for, maybe Interac.
EDIT: I found it, it was for IBM and I was right, looks like it was 10 years ago lol - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eob532iEpqk
Phoenix RISING
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I try to go to the traditional check out as much as possible when I go shopping to justify having an employee there. That's not going to stop more self checkouts from appearing.
Change is inevitable. I don't know what "support" has to do with automation.
Ether_Snake
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Stop saying automation should be stopped.
Put pressure on your governments to make it easier for people to learn new trades quickly at no cost, and to limit excessive wealth accumulation.
Put pressure on your governments to make it easier for people to learn new trades quickly at no cost, and to limit excessive wealth accumulation.
Cosmic Bus
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Two blocks from my job, huh -- on the most recent mega-campus in the city, unsurprisingly. Will be fun to give this a swing when it's open to the public.
This already happens. Like, How are you enjoying your advantage card? Cameras in stores mapping foot traffic? If anything, this makes the job of tracking data easier, but it isn't new.
Support has everything to do with automation. This store only works if people go to it. If I've got the option of getting something here or at Target where they still have employees I can go to Target instead. I'm not saying that long term that will stop automation but support for this is totally relevant in the short term. I doubt any sort of boycott is actually going to work but I certainly don't see the reason to support a company that is cutting jobs just to pad their own profit margins.
TheChocoboCadet
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I'm imagining someone accidentally knocking over a stack of canned goods and having 30 cans of green beans added to their cart.
They didn't magically bring this into existence out of thin air, how many computer scientists and engineers did they hire to create this store? Would you rather we save the jobs of cashiers and not create any technological innovation?
That would teach them to be less clumsy.
Of course rudimentary tracking has been happening via auxiliary methods for decades, but I'm saying this is likely the entire point of the store - and not only what you buy, but literally how you do it.
The T&C's on the Go app will make for very interesting reading...
Couchaddict
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I wonder how many cameras are involved.
People will have to get more demanding jobs.
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