iOS 5 & iCloud |OT|

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Ok, this whole iCloud calendar thing is really messy and kind of silly. At first when I set things up I had an iCloud calendar and the stuff from my mac, and the iCloud one wasn't updating. To fix that I had to add my account on my mac, so my mac has 2 calendars now for some reason. That makes some sort of weird sense to me, I suppose. But after I synced and woke up this morning now my mac has transferred its two accounts (one of which is iCloud, mind you) to my iPhone. So, I have a regular calendar from my mac, an iCloud calendar from my mac, and an iCloud calendar. What the fuck!? I get that I can delete my normal calendars on my mac now, but why the fuck is the iCloud one syncing from my mac, too? So I have to stop syncing the calendars from my iTunes, too? Weird.

I mean, I can figure all this stuff out, but isn't this a little bit obtuse for an Apple product and for a non computer geek to figure out?
 
I posted this in the iOS gaming thread:

Something I've been wondering; does anyone know how iCloud save game data is gonna work? For games that support it, will the save game data be a separate file stored on a particular iCloud account or will the game just have the saved data on it whenever you redownload it from the app store?
 
RDreamer said:
Ok, this whole iCloud calendar thing is really messy and kind of silly. At first when I set things up I had an iCloud calendar and the stuff from my mac, and the iCloud one wasn't updating. To fix that I had to add my account on my mac, so my mac has 2 calendars now for some reason. That makes some sort of weird sense to me, I suppose. But after I synced and woke up this morning now my mac has transferred its two accounts (one of which is iCloud, mind you) to my iPhone. So, I have a regular calendar from my mac, an iCloud calendar from my mac, and an iCloud calendar. What the fuck!? I get that I can delete my normal calendars on my mac now, but why the fuck is the iCloud one syncing from my mac, too?
Remove the calendar from syncing in iTunes.
 
giga said:
Remove the calendar from syncing in iTunes.

Figured that out just a second ago. This whole iCloud thing is really just very obtuse. I was able to figure it out after a while, but it's certainly a far cry from the ease of use Apple normally likes to have. I could see a lot of non computer geeks getting frustrated as hell with it.

Another question: Why does my calendar in the notification center only show today and tomorrow. I have it set to show 10 items, but it only shows two. Or is that setting only for notifications and not for the widget thing? Again... very obtuse.
 
Buckethead said:
Anyone download Cards?

Impressions?
It's free so you should check it out yourself, but I played around with it yesterday and it seems pretty awesome. I have to find the right photo to use but I'm totally gonna send my mom a card with it. It's obviously not a useful app for everyone but it has it's place and its very well designed.
 
WordAssassin said:
It's free so you should check it out yourself, but I played around with it yesterday and it seems pretty awesome. I have to find the right photo to use but I'm totally gonna send my mom a card with it. It's obviously not a useful app for everyone but it has it's place and its very well designed.

Very strange decision not to make it universal.
 
Shearie said:
I posted this in the iOS gaming thread:

Something I've been wondering; does anyone know how iCloud save game data is gonna work? For games that support it, will the save game data be a separate file stored on a particular iCloud account or will the game just have the saved data on it whenever you redownload it from the app store?
Saves are stored in your iCloud backup/any devices synced to your iCloud account from what I can tell.
 
RDreamer said:
Figured that out just a second ago. This whole iCloud thing is really just very obtuse. I was able to figure it out after a while, but it's certainly a far cry from the ease of use Apple normally likes to have. I could see a lot of non computer geeks getting frustrated as hell with it.

Another question: Why does my calendar in the notification center only show today and tomorrow. I have it set to show 10 items, but it only shows two. Or is that setting only for notifications and not for the widget thing? Again... very obtuse.
Notification Center will only show events for today and tomorrow. The 10 items settings will allow it to show up to 10 events for today and tomorrow.
 
Sentry said:
Just discovered some new changes that I didn't know about, thought i'd share;

-When using the camera app, you can swipe to the right to go straight to your camera roll, so basically your camera app acts as the newest photo and you can swipe right to see shots you took.

-This might be common knowledge but you can now lock the exposure/focus by holding tapping and holding for a second; really useful.

-When writing an email you can now drag and drop the contact into whatever field you want.

-Song and album information now scrolls so you can FINALLY see the whole album/song title where before it just ended with a '...'

-You can now delete your recent calls one by one instead of all of them, great news for cheating husbands.

-Multiple apps can be downloaded/installed at once, instead of one-by-one

And some other stuff that may be more common knowledge for some, but new to others;

-Custom keyboard shortcuts can be made in the settings, so when you type gaf it automatically makes it GAF or NeoGAF through correction. sm=Spider-Man, etc.

-Custom vibration from incoming calls as well as ability to set the LED flash to go off with incoming calls.

-Custom tones from everything to calendar events to voicemail.

-Define option when selecting text, no more need for a dictionary app.

-You can totally disable in-app purchasing across all apps, great news for people with kids using scammy apps.

A bunch of small features like this, but most are easy to spot out over time.
Thanks man. I had no knowledge of a lot of that. Does anyone know a site that lists every new feature in iOS5 like this?
 
timnich said:
Go to Friends, click the box shaped icon in the top right. You'll see the option to sync contacts.

Just tried it on my iPad 2 and my contacts stayed the same.. Any advice?

Edit: seems it only adds info to contacts you already have.. My mistake!
 
CougRon said:
I Upgraded both my iPod touch 4th gen and ipad2 to iOS 5 with no problems last night but today I discovered several huge problems For me with playlists and podcasts:
  • smartplaylists are not creatable or editable in any way on my devices, which kind makes it hard to be "PC free" if you want to use them.
  • on the touch, playlists are sorted by the first alphanumeric character in the name (with numbers after letters). Any other leading characters is ignored, which is frustrating because I use dashes and stars to force playlists to the top of the lists so I can quickly find and access them (particularly when connected to my car stereo where I'm too busy driving to be hunting for my playlist to play podcasts). The iPad does not have this particular problem.
  • on the iPad, the playlists are forced into a grid format that you can't reorder or resize. The first 10 or so playlists are some sort of 'genius' lists that are auto-generated and push all of my playlists off the top of the screen. I can delete one or more of them, but they come back the next time i synch. On the touch these lists are on a separate genius button where they can be easily ignored.
  • playlist contents do not change to the order I set to play them in. I have a smart playlist that I use for new podcasts that I need to play. Each podcast is added to the end of the list as they are downloaded and I'll usually connect my ipod for an initial synch with the new podcasts and then drag them around in iTunes into the order I will be listening to them. But after i've rearranged the play order the ipod/ipad do not reflect the changes when i run e synch again--the changes in the play order are not reflected. I have not yet tried rearranging a music playlist to see if its just podcasts that have the problem.
  • if I move playlists into or out of folders, the change is not reflected on the iPod or iPad. They stay in whatever folder location they were initially synced too. If I move the playlists out of a folder and then delete that folder the playlists that were in that folder no longer appear. I've had to work around this by creating a new playlist in the location I want it to be in and hand replicating all the settings. Note: if I expand the iPod in the devices lists the folder and playlist contents are displayed correctly, it is just the music app where they are incorrect.
  • thankfully, you can now have podcasts in top level playlists on the iPad. But now video podcastss no longer appear at all. Previously, videos would show up in a playlist but the iPad would switch over to the video app to actually play it--and only that one video, you would have to then switch back to the Music app to go to the next video or song in the playlist. Videos now seem to be totally removed from the ipad music app and won't appear. But the ipad Video app has no playlist functionality and you have to manually find and select videos to play. The iPod touch version of the Music App shows videos in playlists just fine though I haven't tried to play any on it yet to see if it now has the 'switchover' problem.

Still looking to see if I can find work arounds to these problems but it looks like any I find are likely to be difficult or annoying.

Edit: to fix the play list order problem on the iPod, I'm renaming my playlists to start with an A1, A2, etc. This makes it slightly more difficult to read the names, but at least my favorite and most frequent lists can now appear first.

Smart playlists are going to be a problem. They would need to expose a lot more metadata to the User and allow metadata editing, and I don't see either of those happening anytime soon.

My only unfulfilled audio need(other than podcast subscriptions) is the ability to search for playlists in Spotlight. If Siri can search for them, Spotlight should be able to.
 
While I love the new functionality of the redone notifications, am I the only one that finds them a little ugly?

They work perfectly but the style does not really fit with the rest of iOS.
 
Ughhh had enough of this iCloud shit now

I deleted the iCloud account from my iPhone and deleted the contacts. I then readded it and no contacts. I log onto iCloud.com and all my contacts are there again, but not on my iPhone

Again I still have a mobile me and iCloud account on my iPhone...meh. This is a total mess!

Hope it's gone ok for everyone else
 
updated my iphone 4. no problems.
not sure what to do with icloud yet.. i don't want all my photo's on the iphone and i don't want every photo i take with my iphone to be synced wit my iphoto on my mac..
i also don't ant all my mail on my phone. it's good for calender and downloads to sync i guess.

edit: i thought they were going to put the camera at the login/unlock screen.... for faster acces.
 
Trying desperately to sort out all of my apps, I have far, far too many. Can anyone please recommend:

1. The best camera app (or default app?)
2. The best calendar app (as above?)
3. The best picture editing app
4. The best note-taking app (again, or default notes?)
5. Best things near me app (UK?)
6. Best recipe app

I'm thinking I could create an OT where we could try and reach a consensus for each category if anyone was interested.
 
Does anyone here do frequent full backups to not I only their computer but iCloud as well?

Like having it set to auto-backup with iCloud but manually backing up to the computer?

Can anyone see anything wrong with that?
 
With the new unintrusive way notifications are being handled, I find myself searching for a news app that pushes fresh news to my phone.

I have the major ones, cnn, ap, fluent news..etc but I find they only send a notification on MAJOR breaking news. Is there a news app where the user can customize the amount of notification they get? I'd prefer to almost have a constant stream of news coming into my phone.

Any news apps do this?
 
Question: Do you have to set your iPhone contact to iPHONE in order for the iMessage to be sent over for free. Otherwise would it send it as a normal SMS text?
 
so I've now updated my wife's 4 and our ipad, both this time on her MBP. I am not at all thrilled with the upgrade process.. in particular where it says "Restoring your apps/music/videos" and it actually IS restoring them but gives no indication on the phone whatsoever...... this is what destroyed my 3GS upgrade on my windows box to begin with...

overall iOS5 is really great. "so far" I haven't come across a single downside. Notifications are finally perfect (IMHO). Reminders seem cool, though without fences on my 3GS, and the fact that they don't sink to Gmail tasks yet...

imessage is kind of neat, though I don't see it reducing AT&T's preposterous messaging plan (which likely became structured like it is BECAUSE of iMessage)
 
I've been having an annoying problem with the maps app, before I'd drop a pin and the address would come up but now it just says "Rio de Janeiro, Brazil" everywhere in my area. I want to use locations in the reminders app but it's been wonky because of that too. It's even worse if I click an address in my contacts, it opens the map and throws me in the middle of nowhere in the country. I don't know how widespread the issue is (I found other people having this problem in South Africa) but I hope it's fixed in the next update.

Also, for now the Last.fm scrobbler doesn't seem to be picking up play counts over wi-fi syncing. Hopefully they'll update it soon too.

Digging everything else about iOS 5, no qualms here and all of the additions have been useful to me already one way or another. I'm happy that I was lucky enough to not lose any of my data (although I did backup all my videos, pictures and comics beforehand just in case).
 
borghe said:
so I've now updated my wife's 4 and our ipad, both this time on her MBP. I am not at all thrilled with the upgrade process.. in particular where it says "Restoring your apps/music/videos" and it actually IS restoring them but gives no indication on the phone whatsoever...... this is what destroyed my 3GS upgrade on my windows box to begin with...

Yeah it does, in "Settings > General > iTunes Wi-Fi Sync" It'll show the same progress bar there as it does in iTunes while syncing is going on.
 
Sentry said:
Just discovered some new changes that I didn't know about, thought i'd share;

-Define option when selecting text, no more need for a dictionary app.
Didn't knew that. Great!
 
planar1280 said:
How can i tell if the message has been sent or received as an imessage or text
Blue sender bubble = iMessage, green = text. It will also say "Text" or "iMessage" in small letters just above the current message if it happens to differ from the previous one in the conversation history (e.g. if you send 1 text, then 1 iMessage it will say so).
 
I have to say, iOS5 made a world of difference on the iPad. All of the new swipe gestures are just fantastic and feel great to use. Multitasking feels so much nicer and more natural as a result. Love it!
 
Tunesmith said:
Yeah it does, in "Settings > General > iTunes Wi-Fi Sync" It'll show the same progress bar there as it does in iTunes while syncing is going on.
when it's syncing, you are correct. but at that first "restoring" after the upgrade the sync wheel IS NOT there. because it wasn't there on my 3gs my restore went........ poorly....... but I also didn't have a window there on windows I don't think. On Lion there was a window there saying restoring and again, no sync wheel. but I left my wife's phone alone (not risking her wrath) and the only annoyance in her upgrade was that her screens/organization were slightly jacked.
 
What's with iCloud messing with basic features? Stuff like calendar, contacts etc. I've enabled them now so they're not longer gimped, but what's the reason for this?
 
33-Hit-Combo said:
What's with iCloud messing with basic features? Stuff like calendar, contacts etc. I've enabled them now so they're not longer gimped, but what's the reason for this?
well, if you think about it, if you were already using calendar and/or contacts in the cloud (i.e. exchange, gmail, etc), you had to rely on syncing with itunes across multiple devices (think ipad and iphone). or even just contacts between two phones, etc.

this allows calendars and contacts to be synced across multiple devices regardless on if both are connected to that particular cloud service or not.

It's minor, but I'm sure there are cases out there where people who weren't already using cloud services are now happy they finally can.
 
Facebook app not giving notifications at all? It worked the day I upgraded, but I've missed them all, today. Everything else works as expected.
 
Sofo said:
Facebook app not giving notifications at all? It worked the day I upgraded, but I've missed them all, today. Everything else works as expected.
it does.. recheck settings or reinstall. I've gotten all of my notifications from facebook today.
 
borghe said:
well, if you think about it, if you were already using calendar and/or contacts in the cloud (i.e. exchange, gmail, etc), you had to rely on syncing with itunes across multiple devices (think ipad and iphone). or even just contacts between two phones, etc.

this allows calendars and contacts to be synced across multiple devices regardless on if both are connected to that particular cloud service or not.

It's minor, but I'm sure there are cases out there where people who weren't already using cloud services are now happy they finally can.

The problem for me was that I only sync for apps/music, I have stuff on my phone that's on it exclusively (not smart I know but it's not extremely sensitive/important info). So I thought my OS had glitched when I could no longer add/edit contacts and events...
 
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