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iPhone 7, 2.4GHz A10 Chip, IPX7, Dual cameras, Piano Black

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What I found out with a few iPods and iPhones over the years is that leaving them to charge overnight seems to fuck up the battery calibration. It will be at 20%, you plug it in and quickly jump to like 45% or say it's at 15% then just shut down a minute later etc..

With my new iPhone SE I am not charging overnight any more but I am just charging at regular intervals, not always fully. 5 weeks in and the battery calibration is still perfect.

Will see how it advances.
 

DOWN

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Of course they say that, it's the most expensive option. They're there to take your money, after all.

The SE is the perfect size. Without multitasking the big screen on the + is 100% pointless. I went from 6+ (way too big, couldn't get rid of it fast enough) to the 6S (still too big for one handed use, kept dropping it) to the SE (Steve Jobs invented smartphones, so I think he was on to something with screen size.)

So far it's been about 6 months and I haven't experienced "oh I wish my screen was bigger" one time. Go buy an iPad if you want a huge screen for movies.
Actually I already noticed most people working there had Plus but he said overall the regular sells more but among employees the Plus sells more
 

Ambient80

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I mean, he pioneered modern smartphones how we know them. The Mobile-PC products that existed before share almost nothing in common with 2016 smartphones.

Even the Note lineup includes a stylus and functionality with a pen, the 5.5 inch iPhone is still based around your finger and thumb as a pointing device, which is straight up terrible on larger screens.

If the + iPhones offered a shred of functionality over the others I would say go for it, but since theres no multitasking, virtually no landscape app/homescreen support, no proper stylus support, and virtually the same cameras (Talking about the SE/6S and 6S+ here, maybe the 7+ will have a way better camera than the 7, in which case the + would be the better call .. if you don't have a S already) there's really no point in sacrificing one handed usability of the phone. I mean, unless you're one of those Apple fanboys that just needs the most expensive iPhone every year. Personally, I'd rather spend the $1000 on cooler gadgets. (Boosted Board, Vive, Gaming PC, Drone, PSneo, XboneS)

Peak smartphone was hit 3 years ago. Shoving another camera in it and painting in black doesn't make it innovative. A few years ago there weren't cooler toys around. Now there is. Shit, I'd rather buy a MacBook or iPad before dropping a grand on a slightly better iPhone.

If they put Multitasking in the + though, then it would be worth it.

What are you talking about? People like the larger screen for a variety of reasons, none of which are even remotely related to being an Apple fanboy. Also for some people one-handed usability isn't sacrificed because they can use the + with one hand just fine, like me.

Jesus, this PHONE WARZ crap is ridiculous. Live and let live, ffs.
 

reKon

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what do people '1 hand' use a phone for these days besides calling folks or illegal texting while driving?

If you're in a city where you take public transit it's very desirable to be able to use one hand when you're holding on to something on the bus or train. Bonus points for having a one handed mode where you shrink down the screen size to be able to reach.
 

Jeffrey

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Skateboarding? Carrying groceries? Being able to put on headphones without putting the phone away?

what? I can do that with a giant phone or even a giant ipad pro. I have 2 hands.


If you're in a city where you take public transit it's very desirable to be able to use one hand when you're holding on to something on the bus or train. Bonus points for having a one handed mode where you shrink down the screen size to be able to reach.

ah makes sense. haven't ridden public transportation in 2 years since my new job requires driving. Still was fine with my 6+ though, although I was mostly just watching videos and browsing the web which doesn't really require much thumb gymnastics on a giant phone anyways.
 

Owari

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what? I can do that with a giant phone or even a giant ipad pro. I have 2 hands.

You must have mastered the ability to put on over ear headphones with one hand then. My point is, things that require two hands can be done with the SE in hand as well, since it doesn't require much to hold it. Where a 6 or + would fall.
 
What I found out with a few iPods and iPhones over the years is that leaving them to charge overnight seems to fuck up the battery calibration. It will be at 20%, you plug it in and quickly jump to like 45% or say it's at 15% then just shut down a minute later etc..

With my new iPhone SE I am not charging overnight any more but I am just charging at regular intervals, not always fully. 5 weeks in and the battery calibration is still perfect.

Will see how it advances.

If we're going off of anecdotes, I've been an iPhone user since the OG iPhone and have upgraded at every new release.

Always leave my phone plugged in overnight, the battery calibration has always gotten better with time and on the rare chance there was any degradation, it was minimal enough to not be noticeable.

Plus user who has no issue using the plus with one hand, easily, btw. So glad I don't have Trump hands.
 

Jeffrey

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If we're going off of anecdotes, I've been an iPhone user since the OG iPhone and have upgraded at every new release.

Always leave my phone plugged in overnight, the battery calibration has always gotten better with time and on the rare chance there was any degradation, it was minimal enough to not be noticeable.

Plus user who has no issue using the plus with one hand, easily, btw. So glad I don't have Trump hands.

if you upgrade phones annually, you shouldn't be noticing much battery degradation.

The battery and other problems tend to arrive after the 1 year mark, right around when your warranty expires!
 
You do not have anywhere near the one handed functionality as SE owners do, but by all means keep up the delusion you do.

That's obvious, but it's nowhere near a hinderance. I can reach the opposite side of the top of the screen with my thumb from the bottom corner.

How much more use ability would I really need? At a certain point the increase in functionality is a non factor, other than as a bullet point to be used in weirdo screen size wars on GAF.
 
if you upgrade phones annually, you shouldn't be noticing much battery degradation.

The battery and other problems tend to arrive after the 1 year mark, right around when your warranty expires!

The prior years phones are usually passed off to family members, anecdotal again but they charge their phones the same and never complain about battery life depleting rapidly / degrading.

I've never asked but if it's not mentioned, I can only assume it's not happening.

Battery degradation is a reality I just don't think it's as big an issue as some people make it out to be unless you're running the same phone for 4-5+ years.
 

Owari

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That's obvious, but it's nowhere near a hinderance. I can reach the opposite side of the top of the screen with my thumb from the bottom corner.

How much more use ability would I really need? At a certain point the increase in functionality is a non factor, other than as a bullet point to be used in weirdo screen size wars on GAF.
Unless you've used the + and gone back to the smaller size, you'll probably never know how much of a pain in the ass it is, unfortunately.

No, but you still get used to it and can work with the phone just fine. Why do you keep posting so bitterly?

This dude says SE users have Trump hands when presented with logical evidence the + offers zero functionality over the smaller sizes. I think bitter responses are just fine.

Besides, I'm interested in a + sized phone, I just want it to actually do stuff that uses that giant screen.
 

mrklaw

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I just threw my 6S+ out of the window. I hadn't realised just how bad a phone it was until jaxapollo opened my eyes.
 

mrkgoo

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I don't really like the 6 design all that much so why am I suddenly so interested in the 7? I'm also really used to using headphones. I'd need an adaptor. I also use my headphones while charging a lot (Netflix in bed at night).

WHY
 

VertPin

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Watch Jaxapollo upgrade to the 7.

I went from the 6S Plus to the 5S and absolutely cannot wait to go back to the Plus design.
 

Owari

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I just threw my 6S+ out of the window. I hadn't realised just how bad a phone it was until jaxapollo opened my eyes.

Yeah, me too. I can't even put my earphone with one hand. What a useless phone.

Not a useless phone, just kind of a waste of money is all. Until the + sized phones offer extended functionality over the SE and regular there's just no point. There are tons of people in this very thread that say they wouldn't want to minimize their FaceTime call or YouTube video to fire off a text or two or check the map .. I just don't get it. The only way for Apple to know the phone should do more for it's size, as it was originally advertised to do, is to vote with your wallets.

Watch Jaxapollo upgrade to the 7.

I went from the 6S Plus to the 5S and absolutely cannot wait to go back to the Plus design.
If the 7+ has multitasking I'll be the first in line.
 

reKon

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I just threw my 6S+ out of the window. I hadn't realised just how bad a phone it was until jaxapollo opened my eyes.

To be fair Apple is really wasting that space and not really taking advantage of that extra. If regular sized one had the same battery life and camera people would love that.
 

burgerdog

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Why can't you just google this? Lol...

If I type: why you shouldn't leave your phone charging overnight in google I get this:

http://www.androidauthority.com/leave-phone-plugged-overnight-703078/

http://mashable.com/2014/06/18/phone-charging-myths/

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/expert-advice-on-how-to-avoid-destroying-your-phones-battery/

All have the same consistent answer: our batteries are smart enough to discharge itself a bit before becoming fully charged, but constantly leaving it charged to fully over night would be slowly detrimental to the overall battery lifespan.

I leave my phone charging over night every single day of the year and I've never had a problem. Battery lasts just as long as the day that I got the phone. Too much paranoia these days.
 

reKon

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I leave my phone charging over night every single day of the year and I've never had a problem. Battery lasts just as long as the day that I got the phone. Too much paranoia these days.

I think that you're likely see an impact if you let your phone fully discharge everyday and kept it in warmer environments
 

cjp

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what do people '1 hand' use a phone for these days besides calling folks or illegal texting while driving?

I never use my phone with two hands...

In fact I'm led in bed, on my side, holding it with one hand right now.
 

lupinko

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I'm still on my iPhone 5 and it does exactly what I need. I don't feel any necessity for upgrade.

Laziness aside, after getting a new battery, my iPhone 5 feels like a new phone.

I still want a new phone though but lack of audio jack is very annoying.

I don't know if I should just settle for a 6S+ instead.

The new memory sizes are very appealing still.
 

Ashhong

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You should never leave your phone charging overnight

What the hell, why not? I've done it for 10 years with no problems

Edit: just read replies. Yea, I'm going to keep charging it overnight thanks. Besides, that doesn't change the initial problem of charging the earpods in my first post
 

reKon

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Laziness aside, after getting a new battery, my iPhone 5 feels like a new phone.

I still want a new phone though but lack of audio jack is very annoying.

I don't know if I should just settle for a 6S+ instead.

The new memory sizes are very appealing still.

The biggest iPhone upgrade that will be definitely be worth it is when they decide to significant up the battery capacity. iPhone's are plenty fast now a days and the newer ones generally have good cameras.
 
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What the hell, why not? I've done it for 10 years with no problems

Edit: just read replies. Yea, I'm going to keep charging it overnight thanks. Besides, that doesn't change the initial problem of charging the earpods in my first post

I think the general theory is a really slick nice pocketable carrying case that the earbuds magnetically attach to. Plot twist: the cute little carrying case is an inductive charger that you can just unplug and pocket or throw in your bag on impulse.
 

Blackhead

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Nah. Its great.

When even fanboys like Gruber
There is one thing I’ve seen where animation on the iPhone 6 Plus sometimes gets jittery: the animation in Safari when you hit the Show Tabs button, and all open tabs glide into a scrollable 3D view. Sometimes, but not usually, this animation has jittered slightly on the 6 Plus.
and Snell
I also noticed—and Myke confirmed—that the iPhone 6 Plus’s camera appears to be buggy. I would frequently notice that the entire touchscreen became unresponsive while I was taking pictures, though I could still take them by depressing the volume-up button. And sometimes the camera preview would include strange interference patterns, briefly.

have admitted that they noticed some unresponsiveness I have to wonder where you got your "perfectly" responsive iPhone from
 

mrkgoo

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Laziness aside, after getting a new battery, my iPhone 5 feels like a new phone.

I still want a new phone though but lack of audio jack is very annoying.

I don't know if I should just settle for a 6S+ instead.

The new memory sizes are very appealing still.

The iPhone 5 is such a fantastic phone, if you don't really feel the need for the little fluffy gimmicks such as touch ID, force touch, etc.

Touch ID is increasingly important, no doubt, but it's not like my phone is useless without it.

But at some point I will need to upgrade. I'm wondering if I can push to next year's model.
 
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My phone is fine, you can quit worrying about it. Everyday I'm like damn this phone is just as satisfying as the day I bought it. I'm sure the graphs it produces are lower that the latest but my life is completely fine and my phone works really great. Really. I would not make this up. Thank you for your interest!
 

Blackhead

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My phone is fine, you can quit worrying about it. Everyday I'm like damn this phone is just as satisfying as the day I bought it. I'm sure the graphs it produces are lower that the latest but my life is completely fine and my phone works really great. Really. I would not make this up. Thank you for your interest!

Hey, you volunteered the information. If you're happy with a buggy unresponsive phone (or you don't notice/encounter the performance problems) then more power to you...
 
Not a useless phone, just kind of a waste of money is all. Until the + sized phones offer extended functionality over the SE and regular there's just no point. There are tons of people in this very thread that say they wouldn't want to minimize their FaceTime call or YouTube video to fire off a text or two or check the map .. I just don't get it. The only way for Apple to know the phone should do more for it's size, as it was originally advertised to do, is to vote with your wallets.


If the 7+ has multitasking I'll be the first in line.

They do offer extended functionality? Larger screen, better battery life, better camera.
 
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If your own personal iPhone6+ has been a buggy mess for two years I'd love to discuss our usage-case differences.
 

Nori Chan

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Surprised to see 9to5mac give me 205 for my 64 iPhone 6

Hopefully I can buy the 7 day one so I don't have to worry about the price being changed
 

Blackhead

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If your own personal iPhone6+ has been a buggy mess for two years I'd love to discuss our usage-case differences.

No thanks, there weren't enough advantages of the iPhone 6+ (even now Apple still hasn't provided landscape modes for all their iPhone apps, wtf?!) for me to stick with it. What's your use case? You don't use Safari or the Camera at all? Again, if you're happy with the performance then that's great but if you consider the phone to be "perfectly" responsive I have to wonder about your ability to notice issues at all
 
Hey, you volunteered the information. If you're happy with a buggy unresponsive phone (or you don't notice/encounter the performance problems) then more power to you...

Okay, now who's being hyperbolic?

Sure there can be very rare animation hitches on my 6+, but it's nowhere near buggy and unresponsive.
 

Owari

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They do offer extended functionality? Larger screen, better battery life, better camera.

A larger screen is useless without anything to take up the extra screen real estate. The larger screen doesn't enable the phone to do anything the SE or 6S can't do, in fact in many use cases the larger screen actually slows the phone down a ton.. hardly "functional". Battery life isn't better than the SE, and the camera is hardly even a noticeable improvement, for how much it juts out of the back of the device.

The current + options have been the slowest & clunkiest iPhones of all time. Before the Plus line, iPhones never had issues like animation judder and lag. A lot of the issues the 6+ had weren't even fixed with the 6S+
 

Svafnir

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My phone is plugged in all day while I am at home. Only unplug it when I leave. I have had my S4 for a few years now... Never have a single issue with the battery. Leave for the entire day, sure it's close to dead at the end of the day, but that's it.

Anyway, I am getting an iPhone 7.
 

Jeffrey

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6+ wasn't 'buggy unresponsive' for me, but its definitely one of the worst running ios devices of the year it was out.

Apple definitely wasn't ready for the huge jump in resolution, otherwise why would they have doubled the ram a year later after being stubborn for ages?
 

toohectic

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A larger screen is useless without anything to take up the extra screen real estate. The larger screen doesn't enable the phone to do anything the SE or 6S can't do.

I totally agree. That's why I still have a 24 inch TV. I simply don't understand why people get 60 inch TVs when they have the same functionality as a 24in. Large size TVs are useless.
 

mrkgoo

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A larger screen is useless without anything to take up the extra screen real estate. The larger screen doesn't enable the phone to do anything the SE or 6S can't do, in fact in many use cases the larger screen actually slows the phone down a ton.. hardly "functional". Battery life isn't better than the SE, and the camera is hardly even a noticeable improvement, for how much it juts out of the back of the device.

The current + options have been the slowest & clunkiest iPhones of all time. Before the Plus line, iPhones never had issues like animation judder and lag. A lot of the issues the 6+ had weren't even fixed with the 6S+

I'm not a fan of the plus-sized phones, but I think it's unfair to say that a larger screen is useless. Not for you? Sure, but some people do appreciate the larger screen size for thing like media viewing and so forth. You also get either increased screen real-estate, or larger elements, which can be useful to some.
 

Jeffrey

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I wish you can disable the 6+ 'exclusive' landscape mode for the stock apps.

split screen email seems great on paper, but on the 'tiny' 5.5" screen, its pretty much unusable. And wtf is up with the clock app? Terrible.
 
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