Iran: Attacking us is idiocy

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http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24010045-5005961,00.html
IRAN has dismissed speculation that it risked being attacked by the United States over its contested nuclear drive, saying that a military strike would be "craziness".

"Any aggression or military action against Iran is an idiocy whose repercussions would hurt all," Iranian government spokesman Gholam Hossein Elham said.

"I don't think that such craziness and nonsense will prevail or is do-able militarily," he added.

Tensions over the nuclear standoff have surged again in the past days after Iran test-fired a broadside of missiles - including one it says brings Israel within range - in war games that provoked international concern.

Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki warned that if the United States or its regional ally Israel attacked Iran "then our response to them will be harsh and devastating".

"Of course, the Zionist regime and the United States do not have the capability to involve themselves in another crisis," he said in a speech Friday reported by the official IRNA news agency on Saturday.

Iran rejects Western accusations it is seeking atomic weapons and insists its nuclear program is aimed solely at generating energy for a growing population whose fossil fuel reserves will eventually run out.
Weee, more shit being thrown around.

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Its sort of pathetic Iran may be the only logical one in this whole affair.

The US has an economic deathwish if it wants to play with oil right now.

We're so fucked.
 
Mii said:
Its sort of pathetic Iran may be the only logical one in this whole affair.

The US has an economic deathwish if it wants to play with oil right now.

We're so fucked.

I wouldn't quite call Iran logical...
 
We all know that if they wage war against the U.S. that they're gonna get bukkaked to death with missiles and shit.
 
Verano said:
We all know that if they wage war against the U.S. that they're gonna get bukkaked to death with missiles and shit.

And then we'll have China and Russia up our ass.

Seriously, if we're wanting to avoid ending up like Argentina a few years ago, we need to stay the fuck back and repair our economy, rather than piss a lot of countries off and start an actual war.
 
Sklorenz said:
And then we'll have China and Russia up our ass.

Seriously, if we're wanting to avoid ending up like Argentina a few years ago, we need to stay the fuck back and repair our economy, rather than piss a lot of countries off and start an actual war.

Because China cares enough about Iran to risk total annihilation.:lol
 
Only a matter of time before Iran will be attacked.

Agreed. It's unavoidable... the powers that be have made that pretty well clear. It's also been stated that a draft would be needed multiple times too. :(

Ugh, no thanks.
 
Xeke said:
Us? If there is another World War it will be a Nuclear War, I see no other outcome.

In that case, what you're saying is that if China gets involved, then the entire world will be destroyed, because there's no way anyone will get away with nuking China:P
 
Sklorenz said:
And then we'll have China and Russia up our ass.

Seriously, if we're wanting to avoid ending up like Argentina a few years ago, we need to stay the fuck back and repair our economy, rather than piss a lot of countries off and start an actual war.

Like China and Russia would go to war with America and its allies for Iran.

But I do think we shouldn't go to war with them. Iran is all talk and to attack them first would be a great way to use a nuke and claim it was in defense. They wouldn't dare use one otherwise.
 
Tamanon said:
In that case, what you're saying is that if China gets involved, then the entire world will be destroyed, because there's no way anyone will get away with nuking China:P

What I'm saying is that if Vietnam and the Korean War didn't bring China in formally against us and the Bay of Pigs didn't cause a World War, there is ZERO chance of China and Russia fighting against us.

This war would be insignificant compared to its Cold War counterparts and while it would be terrible I think you're all worrying about the consequences a little too much.
 
Darklord said:
Like China and Russia would go to war with America and its allies for Iran.

You may be right, I'm not saying I can predict the future or anything. But given the threats that have been issued, it is by all means a good possibility.
 
Sklorenz said:
You may be right, I'm not saying I can predict the future or anything. But given the threats that have been issued, it is by all means a good possibility.

No, it isn't. Our economy and China's economy are so entangled that there is no real scenerio for war between us, it makes no sense at all for either country.
 
Phoenix said:
You have apparently been smoking with your avatar.

You honestly think we could get into a war with China or Russia and somehow not use Nuclear Weapons? What are you smoking?:lol

Nobody wants that so that war will never happen.
 
We've been involved in wars with nuclear capable nations in the past with no nukes being used. Hell, we're still the only country ever to use one. I mean look at the proxy war in Afghanistan against the Soviets back in the day. That's what this would amount to, a proxy war in Iran.
 
Tamanon said:
We've been involved in wars with nuclear capable nations in the past with no nukes being used. Hell, we're still the only country ever to use one. I mean look at the proxy war in Afghanistan against the Soviets back in the day. That's what this would amount to, a proxy war in Iran.

That's not what people in this thread were saying though. WWIII could never be a proxy war and it's been mentioned several times already as a possibility.

And then we'll have China and Russia up our ass.

I don't read proxy war from that. Not to mention that this isn't the Cold War anymore and if you think a proxy war could be fought in the same way that they were in the cold war then I think you are mistaken.

That's what this would amount to, a proxy war in Iran.

That's like comparing Iran to Haiti.
 
Xeke said:
You honestly think we could get into a war with China or Russia and somehow not use Nuclear Weapons? What are you smoking?:lol

Nobody wants that so that war will never happen.

For one, we won't be at war with China nor Russia. It will be the same cold war proxy conflict that happened before. No shots officially fired, no nations officially shooting at one another. If you think its going to be something else you've been play videogames for far too long... or something.
 
Although hopefully we'll be better at picking proxies this time instead of helping the Taliban early on seize power.
 
Phoenix said:
For one, we won't be at war with China nor Russia. It will be the same cold war proxy conflict that happened before. No shots officially fired, no nations officially shooting at one another. If you think its going to be something else you've been play videogames for far too long... or something.

Well I don't believe that a proxy war can be carried out like they were under the cold war because we are no longer in the cold war.

Regardless of that there are people posting shit about WW3 and the draft and preemptive nuclear strikes. While I believe none of those outcomes, none of them are indicators of a proxy war.
 
Xeke said:
What I'm saying is that if Vietnam and the Korean War didn't bring China in formally against us and the Bay of Pigs didn't cause a World War, there is ZERO chance of China and Russia fighting against us.

This war would be insignificant compared to its Cold War counterparts and while it would be terrible I think you're all worrying about the consequences a little too much.

Didn't OPEC, last week, promise 'unlimited' oil prices if anyone was stupid enough to attack Iran?

There are always consequences, it could further cripple our economy.
 
Sho_Nuff82 said:
Didn't OPEC, last week, promise 'unlimited' oil prices if anyone was stupid enough to attack Iran?

There are always consequences, it could further cripple our economy.

Word for word.
 
I hiiiiiiighly doubt there'll be a war against Iran, but there is a very slim possibility.

If the US and Israel declared war on Iran though, you can more or less get ready to bare witness to one of the bloodiest none-world wars in modern times. It wouldn't be a guerrilla war, it'd be a war of standing armies - that means infantry and tanks.

However it's hard to imagine everyone involved not to quickly replace infantry with powerful missiles and bombs, who knows maybe even a nucl...
 
Yixian said:
I hiiiiiiighly doubt there'll be a war against Iran, but there is a very slim possibility.

If the US and Israel declared war on Iran though, you can more or less get ready to bare witness to one of the bloodiest none-world wars in modern times. It wouldn't be a guerrilla war, it'd be a war of standing armies - that means infantry and tanks.

However it's hard to imagine everyone involved not to quickly replace infantry with powerful missiles and bombs, who knows maybe even a nucl...

Ha, you think it would be a fight of standing armies? We would have air superiority in a matter of hours.
 
We would have air superiority in a matter of hours


Yup as long as we didn't put boots on the ground it would be great. You forget we have assets in Iraq and Afganistan. The question for you is would these troops be able to make it there, or would we be able to bomb them all. Look at the size of Iran and military size. Look at what happened in the first gulf war with the highway of death.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_of_Death

They will react harshly towards this move. Russians have gave them some neat toys over the years too
 
China definitely won't go to war with us over Iran. That's even crazier than the idea of attacking Iran.

First off, China only cares about securing energy supplies for themselves. That's why they have no problem supporting places like Sudan. But the reason they want to secure energy supplies is so they can continue expanding their capacity to sell the US crap.

China has stalled efforts to isolate Iran because the staus quo benefits them greatly. They want the world to continue to try to isolate Iran so that China can increasingly become the only outlet for them.

But you shouldn't take that to read as China joining Iran in a war against the US.

China will do what's in their best interests economically, and that does not include getting into an armed conflict with the US. That would cause huge economic strife all around, and that in itself could potentially topple the Chinese government from within.
 
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