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Iranians still don't have internet, and the amount of bodies will never be known. This is just sad and weak.

I think it's safe to say help isn't coming at this point.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

I did hope for there to be a plan in place for a bolder and more clever operation, after the successful surgical one in Venezuela, but wasn't expecting the same effect, certainly not immediately.

The problem is that the idea was to strike to break the balance between the protesters and the IRGC. At one point there was a stalemate and the thought process was to strike IRGC and weaken them in order to allow the protesters to push more as long term the state will always win.

However it came to a screeching halt when the army and the police did not join revealing that nobody wanted Pahlavi to gain power back as the local elites decided not to take sides. Then some other countries came to the conclusion that IRGC might decide to go for a suicide bombing and they decided to intervene as the conclusive result would not be achieved and creating chaos was also not an option.

And every country in the Middle East hosting terrorists will be emboldened by such a chicken shit message.

That's just your opinion. Every other group - and a country - in the region knows why the attack was not done.

 

[Madonis]

The problem is that the idea was to strike to break the balance between the protesters and the IRGC. At one point there was a stalemate and the thought process was to strike IRGC and weaken them in order to allow the protesters to push more as long term the state will always win.

However it came to a screeching halt when the army and the police did not join revealing that nobody wanted Pahlavi to gain power back as the local elites decided not to take sides. Then some other countries came to the conclusion that IRGC might decide to go for a suicide bombing and they decided to intervene as the conclusive result would not be achieved and creating chaos was also not an option.


That's just your opinion. Every other group - and a country - in the region knows why the attack was not done.

That's one possible rationalization of events, but not the only one.

You could turn it around and say that if the U.S. had provided help during those days, in line with the public promise of a response made by the president himself, then a strong enough attack (and/or combined with other forms of intervention, for that matter, not all of which needed to be exclusively military) might have caused a number of people to defect from the army and police or otherwise desert from their posts. If you don't do any of that, then you're not giving them much of an incentive to put their necks on the line or question their current loyalties.

Yes, I've agreed with you that there doesn't seem to have been much of a plan from the opposition. That said, without a catalyst, we'll never know exactly how those who didn't move would have reacted under a hypothetical intervention.

I suppose you could say that "chaos" was prevented, ostensibly, but so far it's also proven to the people of Iran that Trump, in this case, isn't as different from previous U.S. presidents as he would like to believe.