Glass Rebel
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You have some very unique views, OP.
I'd be lying if I said that I respect them but I sure as hell enjoy them.
I'd be lying if I said that I respect them but I sure as hell enjoy them.
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Is it time to accept Revenge of the Sith as "one of the good" SW films? SPOILERS
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SerAardvark
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The novelization is much better, both in general and with handling Anakin's final descent to the dark side.
The movie is okay, but I'd put it below the original trilogy and behind TFA.
The movie is okay, but I'd put it below the original trilogy and behind TFA.
Skellig Gra
Member
It's shit. Only saving grace is Sheev hamming it up.
BrainZEROX
Member
No. It was bad a decade ago. It is still bad now and still will be a decade from now. This is not wine, movies don't get better as they get older.
DeadManWalking
Member
When have RT ever been wrong right?
Just like midget in grocery store,you are all reaching.
Just like midget in grocery store,you are all reaching.
Carl2291
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I think Palpatine telling Anakin about The Tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise is one of the highlights of the entire franchise.
Ian McDiarmid is a treasure.
Ian McDiarmid is a treasure.
Chie Satonaka
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Revenge of the Sith is fine.
Yeah, there's a ton of bad writing in it. Just like all the other movies in the franchise. As bad as some of Revenge of the Sith is, it still had more heart to me than TFA, so whatever.
Yeah, there's a ton of bad writing in it. Just like all the other movies in the franchise. As bad as some of Revenge of the Sith is, it still had more heart to me than TFA, so whatever.
lightskintwin
Banned
This.
I believed ROTS was the best one for years and decided to rewatch the prequels again earlier this year, and to my surprise The Phantom Menace is the best out of the bunch. It's still a bad film but there's an earnest adventure that's not bogged down by boring politics, horrible unbelievable romance with no chemistry, or a last act that hamfists so many characters and events to conveniently fit in order to set up another trilogy of films
Pamplemousse
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God, fucking NO! The writing is atrocious. Cool imagery does not make up for poor writing.
Love has blinded OP, apparently.
The Elite
BOSS
Done. What a terrible scene.
And no, what happened in Attack of the Clones didn't setup this scene at all.
Samuraicop
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Thank you for you for this, you also could have just put the whole script
No, it's a fucking awful mess of a movie that makes no sense at all. I honestly think Phantom Menace was better. It gets unwarranted praise because it's 'dark' and has the emperor and order 66 in it, but objectively it's a terrible film with cheap, bad techniques and a plot / character arc that makes absolututely no sense.
Mr. Poolman
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Nope.
Its still a terrible movie.
The less awful prequel, but choosing among them is like choosing which venereal disease you want.
Its still a terrible movie.
The less awful prequel, but choosing among them is like choosing which venereal disease you want.
Rodney McKay
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I was bored the whole way through when I saw this in theaters.
General Grevious was a good idea of a villain, but was introduced in this movie terribly. I know he was introduced in the cartoon or something, and it really felt like he was meant to be a bigger bad guy, but the fact he wasn't in any of the previous movies and got killed off so quickly made him forgettable. I honestly thought they should have just build Darth Maul into a bigger part of the trilogy, make him a sort of prototype Darth Vader that get progressively fucked up until he's basically what Grevious is. Instead, they kill him off in the first one, introduce Dooku with his horrible name in the second one, and immediately kill him in the third.
And Anakin's switch to the dark side (pretty much the main point of the prequels) was so sudden and weak that it made my eyes roll. I get that he wanted to save Padme, but after she was dead, why did he remain loyal to the Emperor? The whole point of his switchover was to save her life. Did he remain his servant in the HIGHLY UNLIKELY even that the Emperor would eventually figure out how to bring people back from the dead?
General Grevious was a good idea of a villain, but was introduced in this movie terribly. I know he was introduced in the cartoon or something, and it really felt like he was meant to be a bigger bad guy, but the fact he wasn't in any of the previous movies and got killed off so quickly made him forgettable. I honestly thought they should have just build Darth Maul into a bigger part of the trilogy, make him a sort of prototype Darth Vader that get progressively fucked up until he's basically what Grevious is. Instead, they kill him off in the first one, introduce Dooku with his horrible name in the second one, and immediately kill him in the third.
And Anakin's switch to the dark side (pretty much the main point of the prequels) was so sudden and weak that it made my eyes roll. I get that he wanted to save Padme, but after she was dead, why did he remain loyal to the Emperor? The whole point of his switchover was to save her life. Did he remain his servant in the HIGHLY UNLIKELY even that the Emperor would eventually figure out how to bring people back from the dead?
My main issues with 3 are just how terrible everything involving Padme and Anakin was and in particular how quick and nonsensical Anakin's turn to the dark side is.
I'd take a whole movie of jar jar scenes over the terrible Anakin Padme love story that consumes so much of episodes 2 and 3.
DrForester
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I think we can all agree that Ep. 2 is the worst of them. But all three are still bad.
EatinOlives
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Nope.
Murdering children for the sake of "yoinks! Grownup filmz!!"
"From my point of view the Jedi are evil" or whatever that cringe quote was. So many terribly written and delivered one-liners.
Padme dying from a broken heart
Switch to the dark side happening in about 5 minutes from one conversation.
It was the one with the clearest plot that actually went somewhere, mostly because it HAD to tie into A New Hope and AOTC was such a fucking mess that went nowhere that Lucas ended up having a ton of ground to cover still for Sith. In other words, his bumbling incompetence for the first two episodes forced him to actually write a plot for ROTS. That doesn't mean it's a good film by any stretch, however. It's terribly written, has very sloppy editing, and is completely without tension despite it having the most action scenes in any one SW film.
Murdering children for the sake of "yoinks! Grownup filmz!!"
"From my point of view the Jedi are evil" or whatever that cringe quote was. So many terribly written and delivered one-liners.
Padme dying from a broken heart
Switch to the dark side happening in about 5 minutes from one conversation.
It was the one with the clearest plot that actually went somewhere, mostly because it HAD to tie into A New Hope and AOTC was such a fucking mess that went nowhere that Lucas ended up having a ton of ground to cover still for Sith. In other words, his bumbling incompetence for the first two episodes forced him to actually write a plot for ROTS. That doesn't mean it's a good film by any stretch, however. It's terribly written, has very sloppy editing, and is completely without tension despite it having the most action scenes in any one SW film.
HiredN00bs
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FUCK NO
Haloid1177
Banned
Grievous vs. Obi sucked what in the world are you praising that shit for.
"I have the high ground."
I don't know what youre talking about, those lines are dope
makes me like the film even more
Killer Queen
Banned
But then you forget that:
-This film has no reason to exist and is a waste of time
-no one cares about kid Anakin
-Darth Maul isn't even a character
-fuck podracing
-Fuck JarJar Binx
-why are we spending an entire movie on Darth Vader's childhood
-fuck podracing
-all of these performances suck
-nothing interesting, important or substantial has happened
-its not funny
-fuck podracing
At least they have some redeeming features unlike TPM.
jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
Phantom Menace has aged waaaay better than the other two prequels.
Darth Pinche
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You're breaking my heart op.
This made my black heart chuckle. Perfect.
Samuraicop
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The movie is one of the biggest messes ever and stains the Star Wars name. The only reason someone ever would have to like this is because its better than EPI&II. The whole prequel trilogy is deserves no praise
So is this going to be a yearly thing?
The Prequels are Ok
TFA is a disappointing yet entertaining rehash
The Clone Wars and Rebels are great series and I'm happy to see them referenced in the movies
C3PO is Jar Jar tier in episode V, and Jar Jar isn't even that bad.
There, all my Star Wars opinions for the rest of the month just imagine my posts in the next thread
The Prequels are Ok
TFA is a disappointing yet entertaining rehash
The Clone Wars and Rebels are great series and I'm happy to see them referenced in the movies
C3PO is Jar Jar tier in episode V, and Jar Jar isn't even that bad.
There, all my Star Wars opinions for the rest of the month just imagine my posts in the next thread
It's really epic in scope. Sometimes it really works and sometimes it doesn't. The opening is really great and the atmosphere of all the words are well done. That scene between Palpatine and Anakin at the Opera is the one of the greatest in the series. As a whole, I'd put it somewhere right next to Return of the Jedi. Either before, equal, or after.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Nah. It's incredibly watchable, for sure, and it has its moments, but its got flaws the size of mountains flying out the wazoo. I wouldn't rank it as a "good" movie, Star Wars or otherwise.
no. it's dreadful and insufferable. phantom menace is fine though and is unfairly used a lightning rod for prequel disappointment as a whole. taken as a detached spinoff like rogue one and the han solo film, which it feels easy to do now we have a new star wars every year, it's a solid enough blockbuster. darth maul is a good villain, the pod-racing is good fun spectacle as is the final fight, the locations/costumes/designs etc are nice, the star wars universe it presents feels like a nice contrast from that of the original trilogy. i honestly enjoy watching it.
lightskintwin
Banned
This man knows what's up. It definitely has aged waaaay better, and this is coming from somebody that watched Phantom Menace at the theater and it left such a terrible taste in my mouth, I never watched it again until this year and was surprised at how much it stacked up better than the other prequels.
HellforLeather
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I keep seeing this sentiment and I dont understand it at all. What is so great about this scene? McDiarmid is clearly enjoying the move to being the more obviously evil emperor but beyond that I dont see anything special here.
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