Is PSN really this bad?
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DonMigs85
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KICK-ASS was like that too. I installed it, then it prompted for a patch as big as the original game itself. I sad F it and just deleted the game entirely.
It was a gameshared title so I didn't lose too much money at the time.
Speedymanic
Banned
Yeah, but why not just release a smaller patch? It makes no sense to force people to download the entire beta again as a patch.
Hell, if they can't release a smaller patch, replace the beta that's on the store with the most up to date version. Goddamn, what an absolutely idiotic approach to betas.
Yup. I haven't played a PS3 beta before and I'm glad I didn't if they keep forcing you download the entire game as a patch whenever they make changes.
Sounds about right to me. I remember it took me 3 hours to download a 500 meg patch for Gran Turismo 5, and it takes me literally 3 minutes to do the same on Steam.
90TilInfinity
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I've even forgotten I've had downloads on in the background, turned off my PS3, turned it back on and they resume as normal.
Download speeds are solid too. Nothing special but no worse than when I'm downloading albums or w/e off of iTunes.
Download speeds are solid too. Nothing special but no worse than when I'm downloading albums or w/e off of iTunes.
Aretak
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PSN downloads are horrifically slow most of the time, but nothing compared to how slow the patch servers are. I probably get around 500kB/s on average downloading from the store, but around 100kB/s on average with patches. Downloading the 1GB patch for Spess Mehren was fun at that speed.
No idea why it's all so slow now. A few years ago it always maxed out my connection.
No idea why it's all so slow now. A few years ago it always maxed out my connection.
Katana_Strikes
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I get the exact same speed on PSN as I do on my PC. Never had any problems with PSN. Works great overall. The fact it can automatically turn off your PS3 after its downloaded your game, should have been enough reason for you to background download anyways. It's a lesson you'll know for next time though 
AbandonedTrolley
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Pretty certain that if I'm downloading something in Windows from IE and my internet drops i'm fucked too. The storefront is not a download client, if you want that push it to the XMB and download in the background.
This is the OP's problem in not understanding, not Sonys.
AbandonedTrolley
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I really don't get the hate, is your life that jam packed that you can't wait for a download? Accept the fact that it's slow and stop comparing to other systems.
I don't moan that my car isn't as fast as sports cars, because it's not a sports car. PSN is NOT Live or Steam, it's PSN!
I've never had issues with download speeds on there with BT, always pretty much maxing out my connection speed. Just Cause 2 downloaded in about 40 minutes the other day. That's quick enough for me.
I don't moan that my car isn't as fast as sports cars, because it's not a sports car. PSN is NOT Live or Steam, it's PSN!
I've never had issues with download speeds on there with BT, always pretty much maxing out my connection speed. Just Cause 2 downloaded in about 40 minutes the other day. That's quick enough for me.
I'm allowed to complain that a service is barely using my connection speed
I don't have this problem with anything else, psn is just pretty damn terrible in regards to downloads
cjtiger300
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Wired connection here using google DNS servers and my d/l speeds are always really good. Try changing your DNS servers. I think some isp's throttle stuff like psn, hulu and Netflix
AbandonedTrolley
Member
So you feel you have the right to COMPLAIN about something you aren't paying for? Awesome! You could be disgruntled or frustrated by it, but you have no right to complain about it.
he paid for his PS3..?
I upgraded my PS3 hard disc last weekend; after doing so, I thought I'd download all the full games my PSPlus subscription offers.
It took me a full *two days* to complete the downloads. Total size would have been 50+GB, I think, but I'd have to count to make sure.
If I could pay for it to not suck, I would, but I can't, so I get to complain.
They're faster for me than on XBL. Xbox Live gets me about 1.5 MB/s and that's nowehre close to maxing out my connection. DMZ, wired, of course.
Speed depends on a lot of factors so its hard to say if it's PSN, your connection, how your PS3 is connected to your wifi, etc.
But... unfortunately there is an issue with not downloading big files in the background - dropped connections can give trouble in my experience while if you download in the background its normally fine to restart automatically.
Generally anything more than a few seconds to download I chose background download.
But... I do think Sony should have this better sorted out better : either make sure both methods have parity in re-start ability, or provide a small txt warning recommending background for larger files or (my preference) allow you to set a flag so that any files over a certain size automatically get set to download in the background.
Personally my PSN is fast enough to download, although a little slower than my 360 on the same WiFi. If the speed is slow for you I'd check out options for making sure you have your PS3/WiFi talking to each other optimally - no doubt google could provide some suggestions.
But... unfortunately there is an issue with not downloading big files in the background - dropped connections can give trouble in my experience while if you download in the background its normally fine to restart automatically.
Generally anything more than a few seconds to download I chose background download.
But... I do think Sony should have this better sorted out better : either make sure both methods have parity in re-start ability, or provide a small txt warning recommending background for larger files or (my preference) allow you to set a flag so that any files over a certain size automatically get set to download in the background.
Personally my PSN is fast enough to download, although a little slower than my 360 on the same WiFi. If the speed is slow for you I'd check out options for making sure you have your PS3/WiFi talking to each other optimally - no doubt google could provide some suggestions.
I have a shitty connection, but I manage to download at 1MB/s on PS3 and only 0.5MB/s on PC (even with torrents etc). It is more than enough for my standards, lol
Never had a problem with Store contents, but I always downloaded things in background so I always stopped and restart download without much troubles.
The only thing I hate is not being able to download patches in background.
In this regard, Vita handles PSN in a better way - the OS starts the background download automatically, even with patches, and installing takes less than a minute.
Data transfer speed (between PC/Vita) is slow, but I don't know if it's related to memory card tech or some kind of encryption system.
I'm downloading Deus Ex right now. Multi5 version, hooray! ;_;
The only thing I hate is not being able to download patches in background.
In this regard, Vita handles PSN in a better way - the OS starts the background download automatically, even with patches, and installing takes less than a minute.
Data transfer speed (between PC/Vita) is slow, but I don't know if it's related to memory card tech or some kind of encryption system.
Says who? you?
Get the fuck out of here. I bought the system, I can complain all I want about its shortcomings
CambriaRising
Member
Personally nothing has ever taken me that long to download on PSN. Forward dem ports, bud.
JetSetRadio
Banned
I have a steady 2-3 MB /sec for years now.
Can't really complain.
Also very few disconnects or lag.
Installing on the other hand, wtf.
Can't really complain.
Also very few disconnects or lag.
Installing on the other hand, wtf.
I was in a similar situation as the OP. I did not know storefront downloads weren't resume-able. My connection dropped midway and realized I couldn't continue where I left off. It wasn't too bad though. The filesize of the game was just around 1GB-ish.
However, it's still a pretty bad design. How hard is it for Sony to push downloads automatically to the XMB background downloader client.
However, it's still a pretty bad design. How hard is it for Sony to push downloads automatically to the XMB background downloader client.
Aretak
Member
Not really. My PS3 is connected via a wired connection, using the same router as every other device in my house, all of which have no download speed problems. I even have all my PS3 ports nicely forwarded to make my NAT nice and open. I've also tried different DNS solutions, including Google, OpenDNS and my ISP's defaults.
There's nothing more I could possibly be doing on my end to make it faster, and yet it still only uses 20% of my connection speed at most. So I'm going to say it's pretty easy to lay the blame on PSN itself in my case.
I'm in Europe and I have had some of these troubles too. For instance, PSN doesn't seem to calculate the space needed before it starts to download, resulting in a crash as soon as your HDD is filled up. Speeds for me are ok, but not optimal. And yes, it slows down to a crawl as long as you play games.
That said, PSN+ is a fantastic deal and I'd recommend it to anyone.
That said, PSN+ is a fantastic deal and I'd recommend it to anyone.
It's just hard not to bitch about my ps3 when I've also got an xbox that has nowhere near the same problems when they're both using the same wireless. I absolutely do not want to start a console war; I'm just saying that when one works better by default, the first thing that comes to mind is NOT: "I must be doing something wrong!"
Haunted
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c'mon Speevy.
Nah, PSN is just that bad.
You get what you pay for but Steam is blazingly fast?
Nah, PSN is just that bad.
MikeE21286
Member
Never tons of problems. Normally these type of issues have more to do with your own personal connection in my experience.
DukeTogo1300
Member
This is so unnecessary. People like discussing and comparing things, the shush squad doesn't need to show up every time criticism occurs.
Does download speed of games and patches actually improve with PS+?
Also, PS3 has no games.
Nope, I have PS+ and I still download at a snails pace
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
but they do not notice them, when they queue them up, and let them downloand and install while they are away form their PS3.
-Amon-
Member
In Italy too it's real fast. And considering that our network infrastructure is shit...
However, wired + background downloading makes the trick.
Fudgepuppy
Banned
I've just given up on PSN, like every time I'm going to watch a Blu-ray, I'm logged out. After I log in I have to update and that takes like hours for some reason.
It's odd... Where the Xbox might be too dependant on internet, PS3 is the exact opposite.
It's odd... Where the Xbox might be too dependant on internet, PS3 is the exact opposite.
Macho Madness
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I can't remember what this says exactly, but doesn't the download screen tell you you can pause and resume background downloads from Download Management under network?
What's the small text here?
No, that just tells you where you can find your background downloads. That's it.
No, but then again .. I queue overnight or go to make a sandwich and it's there. DL speeds are pretty good for me (approx 2-3 MB/s). The only time it's slower is during peek times and when PSN has a store update.
Patches are overnight.
Boombloxer
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Ratchet is 14 gigs. Took around 20 minutes.
A lot of times if it's just slow dl speed, that can be your router and connection too (had this with Time Warner). There are times when it gets hammered, like any other dl service.
Same thing with updating, hey--if you don't turn your PS3/360 on for months, there's probably an update waiting for you. That's not the network's fault, its yours.
Not speed, it just downloads patches, syncs data, etc. Convenience stuff. Honestly, that's not the type of thing you should pay for anyway--speed should be consistent regardless of content pricing. As should online.
I've never had most of these problems through 3 PS3's (dead 60, live Slims).
Well played.
Mithos
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Download speed on PSN is so random, 99% of the time though I get crazy slow speed, and every now and then the download speed is just as good as when I download from the PC.
inFamous 2 (15GB) took me around 3-3.5hrs to download. that's ~5GB/hr, this is PC download speed, BUT normally on PSN its 1GB/hr for download speed.
inFamous 2 (15GB) took me around 3-3.5hrs to download. that's ~5GB/hr, this is PC download speed, BUT normally on PSN its 1GB/hr for download speed.