Starfish Hero
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Someone please think of the Devil.
Funny how black women can look completely different from one another.
All that needs to be said really
Someone please think of the Devil.
Funny how black women can look completely different from one another.
rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/Submit
noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
So if I don't find a specific race to have ladies (or dudes) that I would want to date I think my race is superior and fulfilling the definition of a racist? I don't understand how this whole thread is people saying yes when the definition of racism is a bit broader than not finding a race date material. You could not find your own race superior, shit you might not even want to date any of your own race and just a different one but be ok with all races as friends or family by this definition.
Maybe people of a certain race don't appeal to them. How is this labeled if the person won't date tall people or obese people? I really have a hard time seeing how this is racism. The heart, brain, genitals want what they want and that would feel like it's impossible to change.
i hope everyone has their dictionaries out by their computers/phones
The human race was a mistake.
Ask him if he'd date Beyonce, Nicki Minaj, Rihanna, Hillary (Fresh Prince), Christina Millian etc..if he says no to any then he's a racist.
They have the symmetry and child bearing characteristics that would make any man weak in the knees (and other places)
Don't you have a preference for Asian guys? Did you change your mind about the topic? Or am I misremembering/misinterpreting your stance on this?
Why would you date someone you aren't attracted to?
The heart, brain, genitals want what they want and that would feel like it's impossible to change.
Because defining someone's beauty by their racial characteristics is pretty fucking gross?Why would you date someone you aren't attracted to?
Same.
But what does that have to do with race?
What point are you trying to make? This post is trash.
They have the symmetry and child bearing characteristics that would make any man weak in the knees (and other places)
It's weird to me that even people (justifiably) painting OPs friend as racist are happy to excuse a "preference" for one skin colour over another.
Like, that's the definition of racism.
"Because people's brains, hearts, and genitals have never held wrong or bigoted views before, let's just let them do what will."
It's weird to me that even people (justifiably) painting OPs friend as racist are happy to excuse a "preference" for one skin colour over another.
Like, that's the definition of racism.
Who what?Who?
Why would you date someone you aren't attracted to?
The problem here is that is impossible to actually find someone unattractive becsuse of their race. Race doesn't really exist. We lump people together based on some vaguely similar external characteristics, languages, cultures, and regions.
If someone doesn't find dark skin attractive, well, not all black people have the same skin tone. If someone doesn't find kinked hair attractive, well, not all black people have the same hair type. If someone doesn't find wider noses attractive, well, not all black people have wider noses. There is no biological reason to look at Alicia Keys and Lupita Nyongo and Nicki Minaj and say they're all "black" scientifically, only because of their histories. And looking at the three of them and going "Yeah I find all black women unattractive" is crazy.
Maybe, but I'm not sure that it harms anyone.
Lol can't argue with you there. I think my point is it's a trash post for a trash thread. We all know how this is going to wind up.
(Probably me banned)
Sure, but is it really worth getting upset about? It's 100% his opinion and his preference, which is what attraction is. Nor would I think anyone would want to date someone they find unattractive and for someone to find them unattractive.
It's still racism, but it's racism of the systemic variety more than the active discriminatory one. I have no doubt people are being honest that they actually feel that way, but I also have no doubt they feel that way because of social reasons. Turns out that when we live in a very racialized world and generally very racialized cultures, we're going to end up being racist.
If you like another race/ethnicity too much that is bad and if you don't like them its bad.
This is the wrong question to ask imo. The fact is, everyone is biased on way or other. We all have personal preferences when it comes to how we interact with the world and other people. There is idealism and there is reality. Recognizing that is very important rather than living in a fantasy where everything is very clearly GOOD or BAD. Once we recognize that, we can start to get over any bias we have that influences how we make social or professional decisions. We should not let those weaknesses make the world a worse place. But relationships are very personal and ultimately you don't answer to anyone but your heart.
People can say "I will never date someone who is xxxxxxxxxxxxx", because of certain preconceptions, but if they ever meet someone who really clicks with them who also meets that criteria, I think many people can actually get over that and gain a new perspective. But if that doesn't happen, it doesn't. You can't force love.
Having preferences is one thing, outright refusing to date anyone of a certain race is another thing entirely.
And that thing is racist.
Maybe, but I'm not sure that it harms anyone.
So if I don't find a specific race to have ladies (or dudes) that I would want to date I think my race is superior and fulfilling the definition of a racist?
come on man, that's not the same as refusing to date entire races
I love this thread. If you like another race/ethnicity too much that is bad and if you don't like them its bad.
So you can call out the Asian girl in your anime club that never dates white guys as a racist?
Also is dating someone from a different nationality/ethnicity considered cultural appropriation? You are taking something from them probably without understanding where they really came from. Some minority male or female is trying to get with someone that truly understands them but you took them away without understanding the true meaning of their culture's components.
Yup, so we call attention to it in the hopes that people reframe their preferences to be less inherently biased.
I don't think there's a tangible distinction to be made from "systemic" racism and "active discriminatory" racism, because they can be both one and the same.
Ita been 2 pages. When will the pictures of hot black women coming?Yes.
We have this thread a few times a year.
People get defensive and say having a preference isn't racist. People respond that institutionalized racism informs preferences. People get more defensive. 2 pages in people start posting pictures of hot black women. Thread closes.
I love this thread. If you like another race/ethnicity too much that is bad and if you don't like them its bad.
So you can call out the Asian girl in your anime club that never dates white guys as a racist?
Also is dating someone from a different nationality/ethnicity considered cultural appropriation? You are taking something from them probably without understanding where they really came from. Some minority male or female is trying to get with someone that truly understands them but you took them away without understanding the true meaning of their culture's components.
I'd say "preferences" in a racial context in actual practice means someone would never date someone of said race, so it isn't really just a preference.
Sure, but is it really worth getting upset about? It's 100% his opinion and his preference, which is what attraction is. Nor would I think anyone would want to date someone they find unattractive and for someone to find them unattractive.
Yes.
We have this thread a few times a year.
People get defensive and say having a preference isn't racist. People respond that institutionalized racism informs preferences. People get more defensive. 2 pages in people start posting pictures of hot black women. Thread closes.
Of course it isn't. We're all dealing with a spectrum of emotions here. The quote I was referencing, though, was "I'm not attracted to x", which is another way of specifying one's race based preference.
I think we can all agree that "I refuse to date X", "I'm not attracted to X", and "I prefer X" are different, but still involve a similar topic of race based bias, albeit in varying magnitudes. She herself questioned at what point in the spectrum that sort of sentiment crosses over from "not racist" to "racist", and I'm wondering if the difference in thought matters when there is hardly any difference in application.
The first page of replies was too sensible so that threw off my calculations.Ita been 2 pages. When will the pictures of hot black women coming?
The question was whether it is racist or not.
I love this thread. If you like another race/ethnicity too much that is bad and if you don't like them its bad.
So you can call out the Asian girl in your anime club that never dates white guys as a racist?
Also is dating someone from a different nationality/ethnicity considered cultural appropriation? You are taking something from them probably without understanding where they really came from. Some minority male or female is trying to get with someone that truly understands them but you took them away without understanding the true meaning of their culture's components.