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[Lambhalf]

In regards to some of the threads on people banning games from Steam, I had a thought.
Are you people insane?

A game cannot hurt you. It has no feelings. Should we ban Gears of War now?

I keep seeing these puritan anti-artistic viewpoints all over now. WTF happened to game choice? I don't care what the content is as long its legal.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

 

[laynelane]

We are not banning games. We're simply discussing a game being taken off Steam - that was apparently removed by the developer. Also, how did you go from a game like No Mercy to Gears of War?

 

[BlackTron]

We are not banning games. We're simply discussing a game being taken off Steam - that was apparently removed by the developer. Also, how did you go from a game like No Mercy to Gears of War?

My first take when I hear No Mercy is still to picture a N64 cartridge

 

[San Dan Glokta]

I'm actually not against banning video games or censorship when needed.

My problem is with fucking hypocrites with agendas and virtue-signalling shallow ulterior motives that galvanize pearl-clutching zombies against things they have no business in because they have no life. Fucking fake outrage by fake fucks.

If the entity requesting a ban/censorship is reasonable in its request then acquiescing absolutely should be on the table. The videogame No Mercy was NOT one of those instances.

 

[TheUnicornGuy]

Apart from no mercy, which other games have been banned?

 

[Schmendrick]

People getting riled up over the removal of a fucking rape simulator have more than just one screw loose.

 

[MHubert]

A lot of people spend so much of their lives through a screen that they cannot distinguish between fantasy and reality. The best you can do is laugh at them.

 

[RagnarokIV]

My first take when I hear No Mercy is still to picture a N64 cartridge

Loved the old WWF games.

 

[PeteBull]

Nowadays feminism/wokeism is crazy strong around the world, so yup, we better steel our resolve coz tons of ppl will have crazy views and bad takes, i mean they cant even answer simple question- what is a woman? U think those ppl have any bit of logics/sanity in them?
Especially tons of westerners, especially younger ppl below 35yo got hard indoctrinated by living exposed to all that bullshit, dunno if even those changes are reversable in society or we gonna go to some nasty end sooner rather than later, my only hope is- those ppl will simply have so few children that as long as they dont recruit new kids/teens into their woke agenda- give it 50years and most will simply die out.

 

[Loomy]

Steam isn't some indie underground arthouse game distributor. It is the largest game distribution platform out there. So it's not a surprise that this game was removed. This isn't the first 18+ visual novel to be banned on Steam. There were some that were banned a few years ago because they had disturbingly young looking character models. The public exposure barely registered and most people laughed about it and forgot.

This was the most public one though, and I wouldn't be surprised if people are currently sifting through the adult 18+ catalogue for other games they can try and get removed. Valve either has to make a firm public stance on why those games belong on the platform or they're going to start heavily restricting them.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I don't support banning games but frankly i don't care enough about it to defend a rape simulator either. Plenty of other platforms that host that content if you want it

 

[Shubh_C63]

What new wave are we talking about. This was literally one game. One game about rape. I think Steam and people are allowed to be little riled up or unreasonable.

 

[simpatico]

In regards to some of the threads on people banning games from Steam, I had a thought.
Are you people insane?

A game cannot hurt you. It has no feelings. Should we ban Gears of War now?

I keep seeing these puritan anti-artistic viewpoints all over now. WTF happened to game choice? I don't care what the content is as long its legal.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

I’m pro censorship for things that create antisocial behavior. 1000%. The logic pretzels we all learned to tie ourselves into at the turn of the century have not served us whatsoever. We tried. Still trying to recover from it tbh. You’re gonna have to find a different country man. The little pendulum swing you’re feeling now is just the teeny tiny tip of what’s coming.

 

[kat_on_the_roof]

Nowadays feminism/wokeism is crazy strong around the world, so yup, we better steel our resolve coz tons of ppl will have crazy views and bad takes, i mean they cant even answer simple question- what is a woman?

I don’t think it is a question of wokeism or feminism for crying out loud.
The game banned was a porn game about rape and incest. That is a question of morals. I don’t know about other people but I don’t think rape and incest should be glorified, monetized or sexualized in a porn game on steam, but maybe that is just me.

 

[PeteBull]

I don’t think it is a question of wokeism or feminism for crying out loud.
The game banned was a porn game about rape and incest. That is a question of morals. I don’t know about other people but I don’t think rape and incest should be glorified, monetized or sexualized in a porn game on steam, but maybe that is just me.

We banning feminism that clearly has terrible short term and longterm consequences for society? U for it bro? Or u defending a ban for few k copies sold game no1 knew about?

 

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[deriks]

I'm actually not against banning video games or censorship when needed.

My problem is with fucking hypocrites with agendas and virtue-signalling shallow ulterior motives that galvanize pearl-clutching zombies against things they have no business in because they have no life. Fucking fake outrage by fake fucks.

If the entity requesting a ban/censorship is reasonable in its request then acquiescing absolutely should be on the table. The videogame No Mercy was NOT one of those instances.

Still, censorship can't be a thing. You can boycott, or just let the majority decides if people consumes or not.

In similar situation, I talk for everyone that Hatred sucks because "it's killing just for the sake of it". The message is just hollow hate. Doesn't have a motivation or whatever. Still want to get it? Don't care. It's a fucking videogame after all

That's democracy

 

[kpopSuperstar]

I hope they start to adress some of the horror games on steam as well, many of those should get banned.

 

[NuclearDiarrhea]

Im okay with a rape simulator getting banned. They should also ban GAAS games for raping your wallet.

 

[MikeM]

This should be a fun thread.

 

[YCoCg]

Still, censorship can't be a thing. You can boycott, or just let the majority decides if people consumes or not.

So if someone wanted to put a Pedophile Simulator up on Steam where the goal is to kidnap children and make movies using them then that should be allowed? Using the logic of some people in the other thread "well it's not killing them and they're only pixels, just a fantasy".

 

[Little Chicken]

The only No Mercy that matters

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

Bro those weren't games

 

[Mr Reasonable]

If I owned a shop I wouldn't feel obligated to sell things I think are awful, even if they are breaking no law.

I think that's basically that's what we've got here?

I think this is probably the wrong cause to attach a freedom of speech conversation to.

 

[Baemono]

Still, censorship can't be a thing.

It definitly can. If they make a game about pedophiles and children, I hope it can be censored/banned.

The reseller/platform owner should have a clear line of what kind of content you can sell.

I mean who the whell spend weeks and months to design a game about rape ?

 

[Punished Miku]

 

[rofif]

ban and remove all the shovelware shit.
It already ruined psn store because it is way harder to look through than steam

 

[Danjin44]

All I know is I don’t want to meet the people who made the game and people who actually willing to play it.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

A game cannot hurt you. It has no feelings. Should we ban Gears of War now?

Stop pretending this is about hurting someone. We all know this comes down to taste, morals and culturally derived values. Every country on gods earth has set red lines that aren't allowed to be crossed, for the mere reason of a people saying "we think this is disgusting, we simply don't want to see it, fuck your personal freedom the nation and social cohesion are more important than your fetishes and perversions". So quit being an actor playing a dense version of a mild autist and touch some grass. Welcome to the world of politics. This is not a mathematical equation.

 

[Ceadeus]

You're totally right OP. We should...ok...OK GUYS LETS DO A PETITION TO BRING BACK NO MERCY ON STEAM.. LET'S GO GUYS FUCK YEAH

 

[Lambhalf]

Stop pretending this is about hurting someone. We all know this comes down to taste, morals and culturally derived values. Every country on gods earth has set red lines that aren't allowed to be crossed, for the mere reason of a people saying "we think this is disgusting, we simply don't want to see it, fuck your personal freedom the nation and social cohesion are more important than your fetishes and perversions". So quit being an actor playing a dense version of a mild autist and touch some grass. Welcome to the world of politics. This is not a mathematical equation.

I'm going to ignore the mild insult.
I come from a nation that prioritizes freedom of speech and in that upholds the light of artistic freedom.
If you think that a game can harm a nation or social cohesion, then we're right back at the 90s Mortal Kombat Karens.

 

[Sabejita]

New?

List of banned video games by country - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Guilty_AI]

Yeah, banning videogames is hardly a new trend

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

If you think that a game can harm a nation or social cohesion, then we're right back at the 90s Mortal Kombat Karens.

Here's my hot take for the day: Maybe some of what the 90s Mortal Kombat Karens said wasn't wrong! Shocking, i know.

 

[IDKFA]

In regards to some of the threads on people banning games from Steam, I had a thought.
Are you people insane?

Are we talking about that rape simulator on Steam?

I'm not for censorship to a certain extent. For example, I hated when the James Bond and Roald Dahl books were changed to suit modern audiences.

However, I do have a line.

For example, if somebody made a pedophile simulator, would you cry censorship if people wanted it removed from Steam, or would that be a step too far?

 

[Killjoy-NL]

People getting riled up over the removal of a fucking rape simulator have more than just one screw loose.

Would it bother you if GTA got cancelled over being able to drive over a prostitute to get your $20 back?

 

[Lambhalf]

Here's my hot take for the day: Maybe some of what the 90s Mortal Kombat Karens said wasn't wrong! Shocking, i know.

And that my friend is how freedom dies.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

Would it bother you if GTA got cancelled over being able to drive over a prostitute to get your $20 back?

What the hell are you trying to say? You think this is a smart argument? You can easily construct hypothetical scenarios in which everyone will say "yes, this is clearly going too far, this shouldn't be censored". The point is that these red lines are necessarily always contingent, it's in their very nature by definition. Just because they're contingent doesn't mean that they're invalid, though. I say it again: this is not a mathematical equation. If you think you can spin it to make it one, you're not smart. You're just trying to look like it. But we're not buying, you're basically talking to your own autist bubble of 2000s atheist movement survivors.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

What the hell are you trying to say? You think this is a smart argument? You can easily construct hypothetical scenarios in which everyone will say "yes, this is clearly going too far, this shouldn't be censored". The point is that these red lines are necessarily always contingent, it's in their very nature by definition. Just because they're contingent doesn't mean that they're invalid, though. I say it again: this is not a mathematical equation. If you think you can spin it to make it one, you're not smart. You're just trying to look like it. But we're not buying, you're basically talking to your own autist bubble of 2000s atheist movement survivors.

Overreacting much?
It was just a hypothetical.

I don't care either way. This is too nerdy to really get worked up over.

Besides, if people want to fantasize about raping their mom in a game, let em. Nobody in rl gives af.

 

[Danjin44]

I personally call this quality control rather than “censorship”. No one should let any crap be in their store front.

People are free to make what they want but companies also free to reject putting this shit on their store.

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

It’s about time someone brought banning Gears. Lame ass squat running.

 

[rofif]

It’s about time someone brought banning Gears. Lame ass squat running.

amazing game. no taste in games detected

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

Overreacting much?
It was just a hypothetical.

I don't care either way. This is too nerdy to really get worked up over.

Besides, if people want to fantasize about raping their mom in a game, let em. Nobody in rl gives af.

Agreed with everything except the overreacting part, as i am totally calm here (i am aware of the fact that my post might not seem like it).
I don't like censorship in general, too (like the vast majority here on GAF). I also find Lambhalfs argument totally valid and reasonable to say little steps like that might set a precedent that can ultimately lead into totalitarian and illiberal policies. On the other hand, we can clearly see that a radical hands-off approach with regards to new, radical ideologies that have an impact on content such as this (i.e. marxist-leninist schools of thought from which the whole word salad movement spawned) is not ideal, either. A society has to go the painful and difficult path of constantly reevaluating what is and what isn't acceptable, and these standards of course naturally change over time as all cultures develop indefinitely and so their moral values.

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

Are we talking about that rape simulator on Steam?

I'm not for censorship to a certain extent. For example, I hated when the James Bond and Roald Dahl books were changed to suit modern audiences.

However, I do have a line.

For example, if somebody made a pedophile simulator, would you cry censorship if people wanted it removed from Steam, or would that be a step too far?

Exactly. It's like freedom of speech doesn't let someone do whatever, I can't walk into a restaurant and start insulting fatties and claim free speech. There's a common sense line that has to be, a rape simulator is simply that type of line

 

[FewRope]

Another legendary thread I can be a part of

 

[Lambhalf]

Exactly. It's like freedom of speech doesn't let someone do whatever, I can't walk into a restaurant and start insulting fatties and claim free speech. There's a common sense line that has to be, a rape simulator is simply that type of line

But no one is coming up to your face forcibly pushing this game on you. It can't force you to play it. It's a video game. A piece of art.

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

amazing game. no taste in games detected

No sense of humor detected.

 

[reinking]

In regards to some of the threads on people banning games from Steam, I had a thought.
Are you people insane?

A game cannot hurt you. It has no feelings. Should we ban Gears of War now?

I keep seeing these puritan anti-artistic viewpoints all over now. WTF happened to game choice? I don't care what the content is as long its legal.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

The game was not banned. The dev removed it due to consequences of the type of game he made. Your argument is flawed from the start. Even if it had been banned, a storefront can determine what product they want to associate with. The devs right to make a game like this is no more important than their right to refuse it.

 

[MiguelItUp]

This feels a bit overdramatic. I mean, it's subjective, but Gears of War or anything similar =/= some asset flipped shit perv game, lol.

I personally call this quality control rather than “censorship”. No one should let any crap be in their store front.

People are free to make what they want but companies also free to reject putting this shit on their store.

Couldn't agree more. I think it's awesome Steam does what it does, but man when they opened those floodgates did the shit start flowing. So many "games" are just brainless and hardly functioning cash grabs.

The game was not banned. The dev removed it due to consequences of the type of game he made. Your argument is flawed from the start. Even if it had been banned, a storefront can determine what product they want to associate with. The devs right to make a game like this is no more important than their right to refuse it.

Exactly. 100%. Ultimately it's up to Steam to add or remove, and their decisions shouldn't be questioned as they have that power on their platform.

 

[YCoCg]

And that my friend is how freedom dies.

You're on a forum where you can't say certain things, would you call that censorship? Or is that different? Like go over to Off Topic and post a Rape Fantasy thread, let's see how far you get.