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It's fine. Wouldn't this work in SkillUp's favor in this case? Because he doesn't use a score system, there's zero incentive to lower or heighten a value based on publisher pressure, which they have done in the past. He simply lays out the good and the bad, with gameplay clips to show each point, and then says if he feels who it's for and if it's even worth someone's time. He tries to approach things from as neutral of a point as possible for the average consumer, and I think that's why some of his content has resonated with me and why his viewership and support has been on a steady increase (though I also agree with people that his podcast is boring).

Also, haven't most publishers moved on from sponsoring traditional media to those same hobby-reviewers/gamers that you're mentioning? I think at a certain point it's up to the viewer/listener/reader to decide which voices they feel seem the most unbiased when it comes to these impressions and reviews, or as others have said here, check out a multitude of different sources to make sure if you might like to purchase a game or not.

There are so many different sources today, sponsored and non-sponsored, that it can become easy to figure out whether a game is great, good, decent, or bad at this point for most people unless they blindly follow a person who hates nearly everything or a person who likes nearly everything. However those two polar opposites are easy to spot.
Could be that his point-less (😋) system can work for him here. But it wouldn't take more then a negative paragraph/conclusion/clip from him going viral to ending up in publishers bullseye. There's been many accusations of publishers being vindictive, but there hasn't been many who has actually brought receipts. So even if there has been many articles about how broken the publisher-media relationship is, we can't say with 100% certainty how widespread this is. Just another case of how this industry's hate for transparency sullies the trust with the consumers.

Just to clarify, when I talk about hobbyist reviewers I'm talking about people without large audiences. That don't need or want to earn money from it. But yeah, publishers has been targeting more mid sized reviewers/streamers over the years. I also don't necessarily hate sponsored content, as long as the reviewer/outlet/streamer refrain from reviewing said game.

100% agree, the best way to judge if a game is for you is to listen to a multitude of voices. Even professional written reviews might go into depth on a topic that interest you. So, as with all things in life, there is nuance. And when it comes to trusting a single source, I dont't think many of us enthusiasts does that no. Unless it's for some platform/brand warring. 😅

I just wished we lived in a world where we could trust the industry we love.
 
Could be that his point-less (😋) system can work for him here. But it wouldn't take more then a negative paragraph/conclusion/clip from him going viral to ending up in publishers bullseye. There's been many accusations of publishers being vindictive, but there hasn't been many who has actually brought receipts. So even if there has been many articles about how broken the publisher-media relationship is, we can't say with 100% certainty how widespread this is. Just another case of how this industry's hate for transparency sullies the trust with the consumers.

Just to clarify, when I talk about hobbyist reviewers I'm talking about people without large audiences. That don't need or want to earn money from it. But yeah, publishers has been targeting more mid sized reviewers/streamers over the years. I also don't necessarily hate sponsored content, as long as the reviewer/outlet/streamer refrain from reviewing said game.

100% agree, the best way to judge if a game is for you is to listen to a multitude of voices. Even professional written reviews might go into depth on a topic that interest you. So, as with all things in life, there is nuance. And when it comes to trusting a single source, I dont't think many of us enthusiasts does that no. Unless it's for some platform/brand warring. 😅

I just wished we lived in a world where we could trust the industry we love.
But that's the thing, this industry isn't about trust, it's about enjoyment.

Same thing with movies, music, books, etc. Either the people gravitate towards something, or they don't. Either you yourself enjoy the product or you don't, that's how it is at the end of the day.

A lot of what you're stating in your post was the worry 15+ years ago back when journalists were the gatekeepers of whether or not a person should check out content. The minute we entered the streaming era of twitch, tiktok, youtube, etc. where everyone had a voice, that all slowly faded away until only a few of them are left. That's why I understood the initial gamergate movement idea before things went out of control. However, the streaming generation took a big hammer to all of this and smashed it into a million pieces. That's why we don't need that trust. There's no one specific entity (or handful) that we have to answer to anymore.

There is no more gatekeeping with magazine articles, websites, Cable TV, and pictures, because the streaming era killed all of them.

That's why today my worries lie with destructive content over constructive content. To elaborate, I don't mind people who have a harsher view of the industry (mainly the AAA side), as many here and elsewhere tend to. The issue I see is that if someone is going to spend time pointing out all of the bad aspects of everything, they should at least recommend something else in exchange. Even the harshest of reviewers in history will still have their own top recommendations of the year or past years.

However, there's a new phenomenon where people simply aren't doing this, leaving the audience with...well, nothing. Or even worse, leaving them with an added dose of misery, distrust, or overall hatred. For an entertainment hobby with such a vast amount of different experiences, past and present, it is very saddening to see.
 
But that's the thing, this industry isn't about trust, it's about enjoyment.

Same thing with movies, music, books, etc. Either the people gravitate towards something, or they don't. Either you yourself enjoy the product or you don't, that's how it is at the end of the day.

A lot of what you're stating in your post was the worry 15+ years ago back when journalists were the gatekeepers of whether or not a person should check out content. The minute we entered the streaming era of twitch, tiktok, youtube, etc. where everyone had a voice, that all slowly faded away until only a few of them are left. That's why I understood the initial gamergate movement idea before things went out of control. However, the streaming generation took a big hammer to all of this and smashed it into a million pieces. That's why we don't need that trust. There's no one specific entity (or handful) that we have to answer to anymore.

There is no more gatekeeping with magazine articles, websites, Cable TV, and pictures, because the streaming era killed all of them.

That's why today my worries lie with destructive content over constructive content. To elaborate, I don't mind people who have a harsher view of the industry (mainly the AAA side), as many here and elsewhere tend to. The issue I see is that if someone is going to spend time pointing out all of the bad aspects of everything, they should at least recommend something else in exchange. Even the harshest of reviewers in history will still have their own top recommendations of the year or past years.

However, there's a new phenomenon where people simply aren't doing this, leaving the audience with...well, nothing. Or even worse, leaving them with an added dose of misery, distrust, or overall hatred. For an entertainment hobby with such a vast amount of different experiences, past and present, it is very saddening to see.
I think that's where our basic requirements for buying games diverge, as in my eyes games are products, entertainment or not. And I can't stand being promised something and then get a lesser product in exchange for my hard earned cash. I get where you're coming from and I fully support you having this conviction. A balance of both viewpoints is healthy IMO.

It would (and might've been) much worse if this happened a couple of decades ago as we only had printed magazines to judge the quality of a game. But I don't agree about access media being gone/gotten less in the slightest. Content creators/streamers/reviewers NEEDS press/early access to games to get revenue from releasing a review/impressions as early as possible -> Publishers decides who get access. In my eyes, this is a lopsided symbiotic relationship.

But as you say, the moment the game has had it's general release it's extremly easy to either fund voices you agree with or just watching some raw gameplay.

We live in an age where everything is extreme, on that we agree. People are either soul-less shills or hateful grifters. Wish normalacy could have a comeback. But as long as click-bait works on the masses there's not much we can do sadly. If only the big platforms would reward quality over quantity/popularity...but I don't see it happening anytime soon.
 
It would (and might've been) much worse if this happened a couple of decades ago as we only had printed magazines to judge the quality of a game. But I don't agree about access media being gone/gotten less in the slightest. Content creators/streamers/reviewers NEEDS press/early access to games to get revenue from releasing a review/impressions as early as possible -> Publishers decides who get access. In my eyes, this is a lopsided symbiotic relationship.
I agree with your points, but I think we will agree to disagree on this specific one. I see what has been happening lately and it has been personality-based content winning over the public, which includes gamers as well.

In that regard, I truly don't think the personality-based guys need publishers, not like they used to when streaming first started hitting big. Now it's publishers asking if the biggest streamers and youtubers to cover their game, having to speak with their agents or reps, because those streamers and youtubers have younger audiences that the publishers really want. Of course there will always be exceptions, but that lopsidedness you speak of has experienced a bit of a table flip.

It's why you see giants like Ubisoft scrambling for some type of audience and sometimes throwing out panic sponsorships left and right, because they know that the millennial and older audiences cannot sustain them long-term.
 
I agree with your points, but I think we will agree to disagree on this specific one. I see what has been happening lately and it has been personality-based content winning over the public, which includes gamers as well.

In that regard, I truly don't think the personality-based guys need publishers, not like they used to when streaming first started hitting big. Now it's publishers asking if the biggest streamers and youtubers to cover their game, having to speak with their agents or reps, because those streamers and youtubers have younger audiences that the publishers really want. Of course there will always be exceptions, but that lopsidedness you speak of has experienced a bit of a table flip.

It's why you see giants like Ubisoft scrambling for some type of audience and sometimes throwing out panic sponsorships left and right, because they know that the millennial and older audiences cannot sustain them long-term.
That's a great point, hadn't really thought about that. When it comes to throwing bones to variety streamers/influencers that aren't dependent on purely gaming content, the ball is very much in their court. And they do reach a lot of people especially the younger audience. Their streamed/entertaining experience with a game might not get added to the metacritic score, but they sure add to sales. Good argument.

Yeah, nothing wrong about having different views about stuff. Im the end I think we both want a thriving industry that can deliver fun experiences.
 
I like the initiative, deciding to go out of the normal way and be free to publish whatever we like, we constantly argue about how big "gaming journalist" just suck it up to whoever is paying, or too afraid to speak because it can be censored/downplayed.

And people complaining because there is a pay wall... just sad. People usually requires money to live, and they get it through work, I dont think it is a bad thing charge for the work they are doing on the website. The quality of it is jet to be seen, hopefully this not another Kotaku or Polygon full with more activists than gamers, time will tell.
 
Skill up is trash, never watch their content anymore ever since they don't recommend Lost Judgment, its pretty clear they have a completely different game preference than me

that's why I'm not gonna waste my time watching their crap anymore
 
Oh I'm aight with this.

I can't remember how long it's been that I actively check gaming websites, but I'll keep it in my tabs and check it out from time to time. Ain't paying for shit though, hell nah.

Skill up is trash, never watch their content anymore ever since they don't recommend Lost Judgment, its pretty clear they have a completely different game preference than me

that's why I'm not gonna waste my time watching their crap anymore

Their, they? Da fuck? You mean to tell me he's basically a Jim Sterling?

Googled it, nah. Why you saying their/they?
 
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While its good it has no ads, i'm not paying to read game news, the days of buying mags has long gone, news sites did this a while ago and it's just another paywall which some will do, but not many and you can get the same content free from anywhere on the net.
 
I like this idea on concept, especially if the writing team will actually produce journalistic articles on state of the industry, issues, etc… and not just reviews.

Heck, a large portion of the site is free so why not check it out. SkillUp YouTube channel isn't bad, somewhat shallow in places but better vs many other YouTubers.

Would I pay $10/month to support the site? Need to see what sort of content they are producing first. I don't think it's outrageous to pay for news content but it has a level of true old school newspaper to be worth it, and I have some doubt on this front.
 
This was probably funnier in your head.

I cannot believe the chimp outs over suggesting that it's dumb to only want to hear from people you agree with. It's kind of funny to watch.
Great clap back - I took at least 10 psychic damage.

You made a broad generalisation that had limited relevance in the context of consumer reviews. This was explained to you. You stuck to your guns and ended up looking silly. It's on you.
 
Great clap back - I took at least 10 psychic damage.

You made a broad generalisation that had limited relevance in the context of consumer reviews. This was explained to you. You stuck to your guns and ended up looking silly. It's on you.
Not at all. Your reply was stupid, unfunny, and a massive overreach to a fairly simple proposition. I don't care what the NeoGAF brains trust 'explained' to me - there is nothing remotely controversial about my original post, and if you think there is, you are suffering from brain worms, and need to step away from the internet for a while.

It's on you.
 
Wait you guys check review scores? I thought everyone plays games that look fun or get recommended by irl friends?

I guess Steam reviews are useful as well because most of them tell me how it performs/runs.

The only fun I have is guessing the review score here and reading out the funny, desperate or hopeless comments from console fans.
 
Not at all. Your reply was stupid, unfunny, and a massive overreach to a fairly simple proposition. I don't care what the NeoGAF brains trust 'explained' to me - there is nothing remotely controversial about my original post, and if you think there is, you are suffering from brain worms, and need to step away from the internet for a while.

It's on you.
To start this argument by be labouring the importance of differing.viewpoints and end it by telling everyone who disagrees with you how wrong/stupid/addled with brain worms they are is a delicious, delicious irony.

Who wants to step away from the internet when it's this entertaining?
 
To start this argument by be labouring the importance of differing.viewpoints and end it by telling everyone who disagrees with you how wrong/stupid/addled with brain worms they are is a delicious, delicious irony.

Who wants to step away from the internet when it's this entertaining?
I never said anything about you not being permitted to have a differing viewpoint. I pointed out that your viewpoint is stupid.

Again, you have brain worms from too much internet. Stop the crying and go for a walk in the sun.
 
Oh I'm aight with this.

I can't remember how long it's been that I actively check gaming websites, but I'll keep it in my tabs and check it out from time to time. Ain't paying for shit though, hell nah.



Their, they? Da fuck? You mean to tell me he's basically a Jim Sterling?

Googled it, nah. Why you saying their/they?
Is skill up just a one man project? I don't know I can't be bothered to search for it. I assume its a group with host, video editor, etc the usual stuff
 
Is skill up just a one man project? I don't know I can't be bothered to search for it. I assume its a group with host, video editor, etc the usual stuff

I was under the impression it was just that one dude. The videos I've checked it's always just him. Guess I always assumed it was one person, just like some other YouTubers.
 
Kind of fallen off the Skill Up bandwagon myself. I still occasionally check out his YT vids, just for a quick overview on a new game but otherwise he's another normie AAA-slop lover, which is fine but no longer for me.

Same goes with Gmanlives. Another Aussie youtuber with a big focus on Boomer Shooters and old-school content. Used to really enjoy his stuff but he's completely insufferable on twitter with constant "ackchually" replies on others. He's full on autistic on there lol and a lot of that bleeds into his videos as of late.

So many of these guys think they're the authority on the medium as soon as they get a following, when all they really do is turn glorified forum posts into videos and call it content. It's just like... your opinion, man.
 
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I was under the impression it was just that one dude. The videos I've checked it's always just him. Guess I always assumed it was one person, just like some other YouTubers.
He has minimum one other staffer who did the review for Eternal Strands I think. Almost all these people have editors, social media managers, etc. 2-3 staff isn't unusual.
 
I honestly can't stand the bloke for whatever reason + I rarely like to watch any reviewers cause I'm more of a reader. The only one I love to watch is my dog Karak Karak best in the business. No fuckery, no "taking sides"
 
I know I'm not. Go for a walk.
hall of fame game missed the point GIF
 
Dude. Are you for real? You made a big show of posting replies, deleting replies, going through my post history, and acting like an absolute jackass because I held an opinion about media that you don't like. You are being pathetic. Fuck off and touch some grass.
 
Dude. Are you for real? You made a big show of posting replies, deleting replies, going through my post history, and acting like an absolute jackass because I held an opinion about media that you don't like. You are being pathetic. Fuck off and touch some grass.
The irony of somebody who tells random strangers online to 'go fuck themselves with an unlubricated cactus while your mother watches on in tears' telling other people to touch some grass....

Honestly, I just hope you're working out all your anger issues on forum posters and not people IRL.
 
The irony of somebody who tells random strangers online to 'go fuck themselves with an unlubricated cactus while your mother watches on in tears' telling other people to touch some grass....

Honestly, I just hope you're working out all your anger issues on forum posters and not people IRL.
You were going to stop replying to me five messages ago. Yet, here you still are.

As I said. Get a life. Go and touch grass. I get that you're too fragile for the bantz, and that's fine. Go for a walk in the sun.
 
You were going to stop replying to me five messages ago. Yet, here you still are.

As I said. Get a life. Go and touch grass. I get that you're too fragile for the bantz, and that's fine. Go for a walk in the sun.
Get happy man, all this pent up anger and insecurity isn't good.
 
I just wished we lived in a world where we could trust the industry we love.
Back in the mid/late 90s here in poland we had thriving pc/console paper magazines, ofc there was official playstation magazine like in many other countries which was biased af, but the rest was made by true enthusiasts(aka teenage/early 20s guys 95% of journos, games werent given by pubs so they actually had a chance to be judged properly, ofc u still had reviewers who loved racing games reviewing ridge racer/sega rally/gran turismo/nfs games series and other guy who loved jrpg/turn based strategies reviewing those, but u could assume if reviewer gave the game genuine 8 or up it was really amazing game, and 9s/10s were reserved for juggernauts like ff7/tekken 3 and such (again not talking about OPM, that gave 10s left and right for obvious reason :)
 
Get happy man, all this pent up anger and insecurity isn't good.
I think it's great that you obviously decided to ignore your own declaration that you weren't going to keep talking to me, AND that you haven't started deleting your own posts. I'm proud of you.
 
Dude. Are you for real? You made a big show of posting replies, deleting replies, going through my post history, and acting like an absolute jackass because I held an opinion about media that you don't like. You are being pathetic. Fuck off and touch some grass.
Simmer down, retard.
 
I think it's great that you obviously decided to ignore your own declaration that you weren't going to keep talking to me, AND that you haven't started deleting your own posts. I'm proud of you.
I said I wasn't going to feed your invective, that's all. That's why I keep pointing out your anger issues. You keep saying 'go for a walk', but you're the one letting off all the steam in here. Not just in this thread but all over the forum - the mods have even had to caution you about it, so you're already aware it's a problem. Heck, two posts above this, someone else is telling you to simmer down. Ask yourself who's overreacting here: the guy saying 'get happy, the anger isn't good for you' or the guy saying 'fuck off and touch some grass'.
 
I said I wasn't going to feed your invective, that's all. That's why I keep pointing out your anger issues. You keep saying 'go for a walk', but you're the one letting off all the steam in here. Not just in this thread but all over the forum - the mods have even had to caution you about it, so you're already aware it's a problem. Heck, two posts above this, someone else is telling you to simmer down. Ask yourself who's overreacting here: the guy saying 'get happy, the anger isn't good for you' or the guy saying 'fuck off and touch some grass'.
You really should fuck off and touch some grass though. You are taking an internet forum way too seriously.
 
I am bored with this. Consequently, should you choose to reply to me again, I am only going to talk to you using lyrics from David Bowie's 1979 album 'Lodger'. This is not a joke, and I will not be changing my mind.
Sometimes I feel the need to move on, so I pack a bag and move on, move on...
 
Back in the mid/late 90s here in poland we had thriving pc/console paper magazines, ofc there was official playstation magazine like in many other countries which was biased af, but the rest was made by true enthusiasts(aka teenage/early 20s guys 95% of journos, games werent given by pubs so they actually had a chance to be judged properly, ofc u still had reviewers who loved racing games reviewing ridge racer/sega rally/gran turismo/nfs games series and other guy who loved jrpg/turn based strategies reviewing those, but u could assume if reviewer gave the game genuine 8 or up it was really amazing game, and 9s/10s were reserved for juggernauts like ff7/tekken 3 and such (again not talking about OPM, that gave 10s left and right for obvious reason :)
Americans only like reviews by people with sticks up their arses who not only act like they are a serious part of the gaming industry but like they are the savior of the gaming industry whose basic white bread opinions are going to revolutionize the world. "oh no this game has tank controls what if it offends a mentally disabled person." Or some shit.
 
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