Maiden Voyage
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50k tweets from 300 accounts in 48 hours is exactly why Twitter is a bad platform. 98% of it is utter garbage.
You're being marketed to, and it's working.Because there's people who think that because Elon saying "free speech from now on" means "oh yes! We get to say every racial slur, every ethnic slur, every religious slur, every -ism/-ist slur and we can't get cancelled for it!"
Usage of slurs on Twitter went up by a lot once Elon took over.
If advertisers don't want to be associated with a platform that allows all that... That's what happens. They leave. That's why most don't advertise on platforms like Gab or Parler ... They don't want to LOOK like the bad guy BECAUSE those sites and others allow those kinds of words and phrases. If you're an absolutist, own it and let everything run wild!
The Curation algorithm is what needs to improve. When you see accounts spamming tweets automatically lower them in the que. Or be like gaf and limit tweeting to every 30 seconds.50k tweets from 300 accounts in 48 hours is exactly why Twitter is a bad platform. 98% of it is utter garbage.
Twitter doesn't automatically block out words like xxxxxx I'm running out of possible slurs. I figure this site must block out at least some of these works, especially the n-word, so can't twitter do the same thing? Heck, I'm on other forums that block out Jesus! Not to mention the words fuck, shit, etc.Because there's people who think that because Elon saying "free speech from now on" means "oh yes! We get to say every racial slur, every ethnic slur, every religious slur, every -ism/-ist slur and we can't get cancelled for it!"
Usage of slurs on Twitter went up by a lot once Elon took over.
If advertisers don't want to be associated with a platform that allows all that... That's what happens. They leave. That's why most don't advertise on platforms like Gab or Parler ... They don't want to LOOK like the bad guy BECAUSE those sites and others allow those kinds of words and phrases. If you're an absolutist, own it and let everything run wild!
They otherwise influenced for free, mind as well make some money off of them.So freedom to speak, but pay for special treatment.
Kinda rigged in favor of people who would pay to influence to masses.
50k tweets from 300 accounts in 48 hours is exactly why Twitter is a bad platform. 98% of it is utter garbage.
Adwords galore!$8. Rigged in favor of people who would pay $8.
Wait until you find out how Google search results work!
It's crazy that Facebook is still so high up. Pretty much every person I know personally have moved off of FB.
Hmmm. Maybe it's not a bad idea.They otherwise influenced for free, mind as well make some money off of them.
True then, still true now.Twitter users complaining on Twitter how bad Twitter is.
Musk is an engineer, his brain has good memory and pattern recognition, but he's not as smart in every topic as he think he is. And that's where much of the controversy and problems occurs. He has a compulsive need to involve himself and meddle in ALL things going on in the world even if he doesn't know jack shit about it. He would be better fit for shitposting in gaming forums.Im starting to think Elon isn’t the brightest person. It’s more who he gets to work for him. They do all the hard work and he takes the praise. Oh so basically every CEO ever.
I think bill gates is one of the smartest people though.
...with a healthy side order of hypocrisy when that free speech takes the piss out of you.
Usage of slurs on Twitter went up by a lot once Elon took over.
Thankfully that's exactly what already happened.Yep. A small bunch of piss babies ruining it for the vast majority. But this tends to be the case with most things. What Musk and Twitter should do is spend their time and money clamping down VERY HARD on the small minority that post the rancid shit. They're the ones who hear 'more free speech' and decide to fuck everything up with their nasty bullshit. But I guess that probably take too much effort, and he'll get accused of clamping down on free speech instead.
I've been watching fairly closely, and I haven't seen Twitter limiting anyone's speech yet since he took over, other than removing slurs and such.
People were banned for impersonation, but that is not a matter of free speech, and it's exactly what would have happened a year ago if the same people did the same thing. What idea, opinion, value, belief, worldview, etc were they not able to express?
The number I saw reported in the press was 500% more uses of a particular slur. Five times means either it went up from 1 to 5, or 20 to 100, or 200 to 1000. But any way you consider the data, it means that Twitter had plenty of slur uses before he took over, and the media couldn't have cared less.
Thankfully that's exactly what already happened.
Who are these people?Wierd to see some of the same folks here whove made it a point to openly despise Twitter and pray for its downfall who are all of a sudden ecstatic about its increased numbers now that Elon is in charge. Really shows where their convictions lie lol
You mean that their convictions line up with what Elon has stated his ideas for the platform, compared to the previous people in charge of twitter showed they wanted?Wierd to see some of the same folks here whove made it a point to openly despise Twitter and pray for its downfall who are all of a sudden ecstatic about its increased numbers now that Elon is in charge. Really shows where their convictions lie lol
This is not the strawman you're looking for.Wierd to see some of the same folks here whove made it a point to openly despise Twitter and pray for its downfall who are all of a sudden ecstatic about its increased numbers now that Elon is in charge. Really shows where their convictions lie lol
Not really if Twitter fundamentally changes it becomes a usable and enjoyable product. Look at imgur I used to visit daily. It used to be mostly wholesome memes then it became endless leftist propaganda and now I only use it for uploading images to use up thier bandwidth.Wierd to see some of the same folks here whove made it a point to openly despise Twitter and pray for its downfall who are all of a sudden ecstatic about its increased numbers now that Elon is in charge. Really shows where their convictions lie lol
My convictions are they the internet was fucking amazing and provided unlimited amounts of fun from 1996 to 2007, which is when normal people started using it and it went to shit.Wierd to see some of the same folks here whove made it a point to openly despise Twitter and pray for its downfall who are all of a sudden ecstatic about its increased numbers now that Elon is in charge. Really shows where their convictions lie lol
This right here is the heart of the scam. It was very obvious when they took the "you" out of YouTube.It's the dumbest thing ever for anyone to associate advertisements to user generated content. I believe this is a Bullshit excuse inorder for Advertisers to force their views and control the platform.
If you looked like that, you wouldn't need porn.Pictured: me - only on twitter for the expertly curated porn feed that it's become through years of intense cultivation:
If you had his money you wouldn’t need porn.If you looked like that, you wouldn't need porn.
You mean that their convictions line up with what Elon has stated his ideas for the platform, compared to the previous people in charge of twitter showed they wanted?
My convictions are they the internet was fucking amazing and provided unlimited amounts of fun from 1996 to 2007, which is when normal people started using it and it went to shit.
Elon says he wants to make Twitter fun. That’s good enough for me.
Not really if Twitter fundamentally changes it becomes a usable and enjoyable product. Look at imgur I used to visit daily. It used to be mostly wholesome memes then it became endless leftist propaganda and now I only use it for uploading images to use up thier bandwidth.
This is not the strawman you're looking for.
This right here is the heart of the scam. It was very obvious when they took the "you" out of YouTube.
"OMG I SAW A GILETTE AD ON A LOUDER WITH CROWDER VIDEO WE NEED TO BOYCOTT"-- okay, why were you watching that? Just watch what you like moron.
You’re trying way too hard.But its not a strawman at all lol, and your following paragraph confirms that.
You cant call something a strawman and then describe exactly how that "strawman" is accurate.
Pictured: me - only on twitter for the expertly curated porn feed that it's become through years of intense cultivation:
Not when their convictions were initially "twitter should die" lol
Different countries gather in different social apps. For example Saudi prefer Snapchat, Egyptians prefer Facebook.It's crazy that Facebook is still so high up. Pretty much every person I know personally have moved off of FB.
I don't understand this perspective. Is it the building they're suppose to hate? Is it the name of the company? Is it the employees? Because it seems that a lot of the ones making the decisions that caused people to want the failure of twitter in the first place are no longer working there.Wierd to see some of the same folks here whove made it a point to openly despise Twitter and pray for its downfall who are all of a sudden ecstatic about its increased numbers now that Elon is in charge. Really shows where their convictions lie lol
You’re trying way too hard.
Why were their convictions that way? Because the people running twitter were running it in a way they disliked. Now Elon is saying he is going to run it a different way. A position can change and should change when presented with new information.
I don't understand this perspective. Is it the building they're suppose to hate? Is it the name of the company? Is it the employees? Because it seems that a lot of the ones making the decisions that caused people to want the failure of twitter in the first place are no longer working there.
The argument would be: we wanted twitter to fail because of X, but now that X isn't a factor, twitter is no longer the same company we wanted to fail. Is there any sort of Ship of Theseus level change that could happen at twitter where you would no longer feel people were violating their convictions by not wanting the platform to fail anymore?
Where have they moved on to? Pretty sure nothing offers the same functionality as FB.It's crazy that Facebook is still so high up. Pretty much every person I know personally have moved off of FB.
No, many wanted it to die because it was moderated to be a ideological bubble.I mean I thought it was because Twitter was a place that encouraged negative engagement, dumb hot takes and flame wars on the internet.
Where have they moved on to? Pretty sure nothing offers the same functionality as FB.
No half measures XD
Companies use Advertising funds to push agendas all the time. If you don't fall in line then no marketing dollars for you. That's why some companies will advertise on conservative networks and some refuse.Advertisers don't have "views" that they enforce. They are on whichever "side" they think will make them the most money and get them the most clicks.
They do not enforce views, they monetize them. This is a fundamental misunderstanding of these companies and what they want out of business relationships like these lol.