Can't wait.
In honour of PAC, the moves that he will be using less than half of in WWE. But he'll still be great.
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Can't wait.
In honour of PAC, the moves that he will be using less than half of in WWE. But he'll still be great.
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Deleted member 47027
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But you are more.
See? More!Also, I'm sure this has been mentioned before, but Brian Cage is a f'n machine;
Yeah this needs to be on the new page. Goddamn.
Perspicacity
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I really hope he fails Gut Check. No one should have the albatross that is a TNA contract hung around their neck.
It would be nice if they let him use the frankensteiner as his finish and keep it as an "out of nowhere" move that he can hit from any situation and any angle.
Lambda Pie
Banned
man, can you imagine if Steve Austin ever had the chance to wrestle the Great Muta? imagine no more.
match of the day:
"Stunning" Steve Austin (c) vs Great Muta - Spring Stampede '94
http://youtu.be/72dPBt5cDng
match of the day:
"Stunning" Steve Austin (c) vs Great Muta - Spring Stampede '94
http://youtu.be/72dPBt5cDng
avengers23
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Why was I not told that Low-Ki dressed up as Agent 47 at Wrestle Kingdom 7?
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Dunno man, we all had a good chuckle at it. Surprised how long he kept that coat on.
I remember this - Austin is a step above a by-the-numbers dude at this point but is very solid, and WCW was doing its good deeds bringing over international talent. Great stuff. I suppose I should watch it again!
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WCW Monday Nitro 7/10/2000
At BATB, Russo SHOT on Hogan, which led to Hulk and Eric Bischoff leaving the company. Booker T was then placed in the main event against Jeff Jarrett, where he won his first WCW Championship.
The first few minutes of the show had a recap of Booker's career in WCW and talking about his title win. Booker comes to the ring. He wants to thank everyone. He only has one regret, which is that his mother didn't get to see him win the title. Don't hate the playa, hate the game. He talks about Goldberg and calls him a mark for himself and the business. He brings his wife, Levestia T, into the ring. Stevie Ray comes out. He is proud of his baby brother. Midajah comes out with a mic. She takes issue with Booker's wife. Scott Steiner is the only real man in the WCW. The WCW. The WCW. The WCW. Steiner attacks from behind with a bat on Harlem Heat.
TO THE BACK. Booker tells Stevie to take Levestia away, because he's going to handle this shit tonight. Paula Poundstone is with Jeff Jarrett. He wants his rematch tonight. Too late, Cat already booked Booker against Steiner. Speaking of Steiner, he ambushes Jeff and knocks over the interview set.
Shane Douglas vs Crowbar
Pre match promo. Torrie implies that Kidman has a tiny dick. Well, he is a kid, man. Jeez. This was a match. Torrie got involved a lot. Shane wins with the Franchiser, which is Disco's special move from WCW/NWO Revenge. Buff runs in after the match. What a sore loser.
TO THE BACK. Paula Poundstone talks to Kidman. Skanks like Torrie are a dime a dozen. Jeff shoves Kidman out of the way. Then they brawl. A LIMO has arrived. SMOOTH has a gold record that he gives to Tank Abbott, who is wearing a tux with basketball shorts and loafers. Jeff bursts into Cat's office, hangs up his phone, and demands his title match. Cat books him against Kidman instead.
3 Count and Tank come out.
Tank makes Evan climb a ladder to hang the gold record. The Jung Dragons come out and attack. Tank waits for his spot to fuck them up when THE GREAT MUTA shows up to spray him with the mist! Huge Muta chants start up and the Dragons steal the gold record. Muta!
TO THE BACK. DDK calls Paula Poundstone "bro". He's mad that he pinned Booker before he won the title and he's going to make Cat feel the bang. Goldberg has arrived.
Jeff Jarrett vs Kidman.
Kidman gets hip tossed to the floor with a splat. Signature bumps are weird to me, especially when they're stupid and big bumps. Torrie comes out and distracts Billy. They argue a bit until Shane attacks. Kidman fights him off, Torrie low blows him, and Shane DDTs him on the floor. Kidman barely kicked out. Really weird looking can't powerbomb Kidman spot. It was like...slow motion and awkward. Jeff reverses the tornado bulldog into the Stroke for the win. I feel like this is his first clean win since October, even if there was interference. It at least didn't lead to the finish.
TO THE BACK. Scott Steiner attacks Kanyon. Mike Awesome hits on another fat chick. Cat stops by to give him the US Championship. Mike Awesome turns it down. He wants to earn the belt, not have it handed to him. Since when? Booker heads to the ring.
Mike Awesome vs Booker T WCW Championship
Wait. Cat said Booker vs Steiner was the main event tonight. Why is this happening? Tony says that Booker got the first shot at the title at the Bash. It wasn't even his first title shot that month. I guess he forgot calling Jeff vs Booker for the title on Thunder. You know, the show right before the BATB. Awesome actually broke a chair on Booker's back. But it was a pretty weak shot, so I don't know how the seat just broke. Maybe it was a Japanese chair. Why does Japan have chairs that pop apart, but make unbreakable tables? Mike almost wins the title with a big splash. I'm not sure if going from ECW Champion to WCW Champion was an upgrade or downgrade in 2000. Booker gets out of an Awesome Bomb and knocks Mike off the apron through a table. Tony keeps talking about how this could be the shortest reign ever. Does he not remember the multiple one hour title reigns just in the past year? Awesome gets out of all of Booker's moves until he hits a Book End for the win. Booker is successful in his first defense. Scott Steiner attacks and puts Booker in the Recliner. Mike Awesome saves Booker. Scott bails.
TO THE BACK. Cat is HOT and heads to the ring.
Cat comes out and says he's tired of Steiner interfering and putting people in the Steiner Recliner. He calls out Scotty. Scott comes out and says he'll shove a mic up Cat's ass. Cat calls him a stupid bitch and says he's going to kick his ass himself. He tried, but Steiner had him down on the mat choking. Booker comes out for the save when Kanyon attacks Booker. Then Jeff Jarrett comes out. Scott attacks Kanyon, Jeff and Kanyon attack Scott, and Booker ends up the only man in the ring. Cat books Steiner vs Kanyon vs Jarrett with the winner getting a title shot at New Blood Rising. Then Goldberg comes out. In sweats, a tank, and a fanny pack. Goldberg wants in. 4 way dance for the main event!
TO THE BACK. Goldberg is focused.
EARLIER TODAY. Norman was trying to train Ralphus by making him run stairs, do squats, and a pushup.
Big Vito vs Norman Smiley/Ralphus WCW Hardcore Championship
I swear Ralphus gains 5 pounds every show. Madden wonders how someone can let themselves get so out of shape. Oh, you. They head backstage so they can actually start the match. Ralphus stayed in the ring hiding under a table. Vito see's Ralphus and his giant ass sticking out and hits it with a crutch. Tony calls a "traffic cone enema move" when Vito hit a cone that placed pointing into Ralphus' phallus. Vito hits the big splash through a table again, but doesn't pin Ralphus. Norman comes back in and hits Vito with a chair, which causes him to fall on Ralphus for the pin. Norman was too busy wiggling to notice. Vito retains.
TO THE BACK. Cat is in the back with the Dragons attack. Paisley needs his shirt ironed. She asks Kiwi to do it. YOU DO NOTTA TALK TO THE KIWI LIKEA THAT. I forgot that Kiwi was a straight up rip off of Mango. A shot of the crowd shows Lenny Lane with a giant "USE ME" sign. Mark Madden says Lenny never gets used because of the fat cats that only show up once a month. The moral of the story is to not be a friend of Mark Madden. Apparently Lane had some words for Russo on the internet.
Lance Storm comes to the ring with a mic. USA chants. Wait, Lance came in as a face. He doesn't dance, he doesn't sing. He just wrestles. Canadian national anthem plays. A handful of people are actually standing and saluting. It actually plays all the way through.
Lance Storm vs The Artist.
I can't tell if Kiwi ironed Prince's puffy shirt. Paisley is on color. Kiwi maybe could be her purple passion fruit someday. "What's wrong with Lance Storm?" "He's a power ranger reject!" Lance never really struck me as a power ranger, but okay. This is super boring. Prince is such an uninteresting wrestler. Lance wins with the rolling crab.
TO THE BACK. Vampiro arrives in a hearse.
Kronik vs MIA WCW Tag Team Championships
Rey/Juvi/Tygress come out before the match. I hope all 3 are on color. At least Konnan isn't out here. Juvi and Rey were about to get involved when Jindrak and O'Haire show up to intercept them. They brawl in the crowd. Hard Cock hits the moonsault, but Crush breaks up the pin. High Times on Lash is saved by Hugh. Kronik then botches the fuck out of their new powerbomb doomsday device finish. Crush somehow couldn't hold Lash up in the powerbomb, so he fell backwards as Wrath jumped off the ropes. It was lol. Perfect Event attack Kronik after the match and are run of by MIA.
TO THE BACK. Vampiro is rubbing the casket.
Vampiro says he's a black lotus and can survive anything in the dark. The Demon comes out of the casket. Vampiro says Demon's soul now belongs to him. Asya tries to get a hold of Demon. Vamp then tells DALE to attack Asya, which he does. The lights go out, even though they were pretty much already in the dark anyway. Sting's music hits and a figure is in the ring with what looks to be some kind of mask. But since the whole fucking thing is in the dark, you can't see any of it anyway. Oh shit, it's Aces and 8s! So Vampiro and Demon are now on the same side? What the fuck? The night after they literally tried to murder each other in a fucking graveyard? For reals? And Sting, who suffered 3rd degree burns on 90% of his body can come back in a month to do Stinger splashes and death drops? What. This is the WORST. Fuck. Fuck this shit. This whole thing is one of the worst non-shit related angles I've ever seen.
Jeff Jarrett vs Scott Steiner vs Kanyon vs Goldberg Number One Contender Match
One of these is not like the other. Steiner and Kanyon start it out. An all heel fatal four way main event. Sounds like WCW. Remember when they had a 4 way ladder match with I think Goldberg, Hall, Sid, and Bret for the US Championship? I don't think it even lasted 5 minutes. This match will kind of be like that. Goldberg breaks up any and all pins, though he hasn't been in the ring at all officially. KANYON CUTTER on Jeff. But Goldberg had made a blind tag and crushes Kanyon with a spear.
Jackhammer, but Steiner makes the save. Oh fuck. Goldberg and Steiner get into it. BOMBS ON YOUR MOMS!!! Jarrett pins Kanyon and wins. But he wasn't the legal man. Goldberg was. This was about 5 minutes. I wish Goldberg would grow his Jewfro back out. That shit was glorious. I miss Goldberg.
WCW Monday Nitro 7/10/2000
At BATB, Russo SHOT on Hogan, which led to Hulk and Eric Bischoff leaving the company. Booker T was then placed in the main event against Jeff Jarrett, where he won his first WCW Championship.
The first few minutes of the show had a recap of Booker's career in WCW and talking about his title win. Booker comes to the ring. He wants to thank everyone. He only has one regret, which is that his mother didn't get to see him win the title. Don't hate the playa, hate the game. He talks about Goldberg and calls him a mark for himself and the business. He brings his wife, Levestia T, into the ring. Stevie Ray comes out. He is proud of his baby brother. Midajah comes out with a mic. She takes issue with Booker's wife. Scott Steiner is the only real man in the WCW. The WCW. The WCW. The WCW. Steiner attacks from behind with a bat on Harlem Heat.
TO THE BACK. Booker tells Stevie to take Levestia away, because he's going to handle this shit tonight. Paula Poundstone is with Jeff Jarrett. He wants his rematch tonight. Too late, Cat already booked Booker against Steiner. Speaking of Steiner, he ambushes Jeff and knocks over the interview set.
Shane Douglas vs Crowbar
Pre match promo. Torrie implies that Kidman has a tiny dick. Well, he is a kid, man. Jeez. This was a match. Torrie got involved a lot. Shane wins with the Franchiser, which is Disco's special move from WCW/NWO Revenge. Buff runs in after the match. What a sore loser.
TO THE BACK. Paula Poundstone talks to Kidman. Skanks like Torrie are a dime a dozen. Jeff shoves Kidman out of the way. Then they brawl. A LIMO has arrived. SMOOTH has a gold record that he gives to Tank Abbott, who is wearing a tux with basketball shorts and loafers. Jeff bursts into Cat's office, hangs up his phone, and demands his title match. Cat books him against Kidman instead.
3 Count and Tank come out.
Tank makes Evan climb a ladder to hang the gold record. The Jung Dragons come out and attack. Tank waits for his spot to fuck them up when THE GREAT MUTA shows up to spray him with the mist! Huge Muta chants start up and the Dragons steal the gold record. Muta!
TO THE BACK. DDK calls Paula Poundstone "bro". He's mad that he pinned Booker before he won the title and he's going to make Cat feel the bang. Goldberg has arrived.
Jeff Jarrett vs Kidman.
Kidman gets hip tossed to the floor with a splat. Signature bumps are weird to me, especially when they're stupid and big bumps. Torrie comes out and distracts Billy. They argue a bit until Shane attacks. Kidman fights him off, Torrie low blows him, and Shane DDTs him on the floor. Kidman barely kicked out. Really weird looking can't powerbomb Kidman spot. It was like...slow motion and awkward. Jeff reverses the tornado bulldog into the Stroke for the win. I feel like this is his first clean win since October, even if there was interference. It at least didn't lead to the finish.
TO THE BACK. Scott Steiner attacks Kanyon. Mike Awesome hits on another fat chick. Cat stops by to give him the US Championship. Mike Awesome turns it down. He wants to earn the belt, not have it handed to him. Since when? Booker heads to the ring.
Mike Awesome vs Booker T WCW Championship
Wait. Cat said Booker vs Steiner was the main event tonight. Why is this happening? Tony says that Booker got the first shot at the title at the Bash. It wasn't even his first title shot that month. I guess he forgot calling Jeff vs Booker for the title on Thunder. You know, the show right before the BATB. Awesome actually broke a chair on Booker's back. But it was a pretty weak shot, so I don't know how the seat just broke. Maybe it was a Japanese chair. Why does Japan have chairs that pop apart, but make unbreakable tables? Mike almost wins the title with a big splash. I'm not sure if going from ECW Champion to WCW Champion was an upgrade or downgrade in 2000. Booker gets out of an Awesome Bomb and knocks Mike off the apron through a table. Tony keeps talking about how this could be the shortest reign ever. Does he not remember the multiple one hour title reigns just in the past year? Awesome gets out of all of Booker's moves until he hits a Book End for the win. Booker is successful in his first defense. Scott Steiner attacks and puts Booker in the Recliner. Mike Awesome saves Booker. Scott bails.
TO THE BACK. Cat is HOT and heads to the ring.
Cat comes out and says he's tired of Steiner interfering and putting people in the Steiner Recliner. He calls out Scotty. Scott comes out and says he'll shove a mic up Cat's ass. Cat calls him a stupid bitch and says he's going to kick his ass himself. He tried, but Steiner had him down on the mat choking. Booker comes out for the save when Kanyon attacks Booker. Then Jeff Jarrett comes out. Scott attacks Kanyon, Jeff and Kanyon attack Scott, and Booker ends up the only man in the ring. Cat books Steiner vs Kanyon vs Jarrett with the winner getting a title shot at New Blood Rising. Then Goldberg comes out. In sweats, a tank, and a fanny pack. Goldberg wants in. 4 way dance for the main event!
TO THE BACK. Goldberg is focused.
EARLIER TODAY. Norman was trying to train Ralphus by making him run stairs, do squats, and a pushup.
Big Vito vs Norman Smiley/Ralphus WCW Hardcore Championship
I swear Ralphus gains 5 pounds every show. Madden wonders how someone can let themselves get so out of shape. Oh, you. They head backstage so they can actually start the match. Ralphus stayed in the ring hiding under a table. Vito see's Ralphus and his giant ass sticking out and hits it with a crutch. Tony calls a "traffic cone enema move" when Vito hit a cone that placed pointing into Ralphus' phallus. Vito hits the big splash through a table again, but doesn't pin Ralphus. Norman comes back in and hits Vito with a chair, which causes him to fall on Ralphus for the pin. Norman was too busy wiggling to notice. Vito retains.
TO THE BACK. Cat is in the back with the Dragons attack. Paisley needs his shirt ironed. She asks Kiwi to do it. YOU DO NOTTA TALK TO THE KIWI LIKEA THAT. I forgot that Kiwi was a straight up rip off of Mango. A shot of the crowd shows Lenny Lane with a giant "USE ME" sign. Mark Madden says Lenny never gets used because of the fat cats that only show up once a month. The moral of the story is to not be a friend of Mark Madden. Apparently Lane had some words for Russo on the internet.
Lance Storm comes to the ring with a mic. USA chants. Wait, Lance came in as a face. He doesn't dance, he doesn't sing. He just wrestles. Canadian national anthem plays. A handful of people are actually standing and saluting. It actually plays all the way through.
Lance Storm vs The Artist.
I can't tell if Kiwi ironed Prince's puffy shirt. Paisley is on color. Kiwi maybe could be her purple passion fruit someday. "What's wrong with Lance Storm?" "He's a power ranger reject!" Lance never really struck me as a power ranger, but okay. This is super boring. Prince is such an uninteresting wrestler. Lance wins with the rolling crab.
TO THE BACK. Vampiro arrives in a hearse.
Kronik vs MIA WCW Tag Team Championships
Rey/Juvi/Tygress come out before the match. I hope all 3 are on color. At least Konnan isn't out here. Juvi and Rey were about to get involved when Jindrak and O'Haire show up to intercept them. They brawl in the crowd. Hard Cock hits the moonsault, but Crush breaks up the pin. High Times on Lash is saved by Hugh. Kronik then botches the fuck out of their new powerbomb doomsday device finish. Crush somehow couldn't hold Lash up in the powerbomb, so he fell backwards as Wrath jumped off the ropes. It was lol. Perfect Event attack Kronik after the match and are run of by MIA.
TO THE BACK. Vampiro is rubbing the casket.
Vampiro says he's a black lotus and can survive anything in the dark. The Demon comes out of the casket. Vampiro says Demon's soul now belongs to him. Asya tries to get a hold of Demon. Vamp then tells DALE to attack Asya, which he does. The lights go out, even though they were pretty much already in the dark anyway. Sting's music hits and a figure is in the ring with what looks to be some kind of mask. But since the whole fucking thing is in the dark, you can't see any of it anyway. Oh shit, it's Aces and 8s! So Vampiro and Demon are now on the same side? What the fuck? The night after they literally tried to murder each other in a fucking graveyard? For reals? And Sting, who suffered 3rd degree burns on 90% of his body can come back in a month to do Stinger splashes and death drops? What. This is the WORST. Fuck. Fuck this shit. This whole thing is one of the worst non-shit related angles I've ever seen.
Jeff Jarrett vs Scott Steiner vs Kanyon vs Goldberg Number One Contender Match
One of these is not like the other. Steiner and Kanyon start it out. An all heel fatal four way main event. Sounds like WCW. Remember when they had a 4 way ladder match with I think Goldberg, Hall, Sid, and Bret for the US Championship? I don't think it even lasted 5 minutes. This match will kind of be like that. Goldberg breaks up any and all pins, though he hasn't been in the ring at all officially. KANYON CUTTER on Jeff. But Goldberg had made a blind tag and crushes Kanyon with a spear.
Jackhammer, but Steiner makes the save. Oh fuck. Goldberg and Steiner get into it. BOMBS ON YOUR MOMS!!! Jarrett pins Kanyon and wins. But he wasn't the legal man. Goldberg was. This was about 5 minutes. I wish Goldberg would grow his Jewfro back out. That shit was glorious. I miss Goldberg.
I really need to start watching more indie wrestling.
That guy is doing moves my created characters do..
edit - What the fuck, tags in a Fatal Four Way? Why would anyone tag in someone else? Man WCW was atrocious, good thing I only watched for DDP and the cruiserweights
I don't know, WCW usually did tags in multi man matches that weren't cruiser or hardcore matches. Just like they almost always had pins/submissions only in their cage matches. In fact, having a cage match where you could exit to win was considered a different gimmick match. It had it's own special name, but I don't remember it off hand.
Mr. Enigma
Member
I remember Allan Funk doing the Kiwi gimmick. They IMMEDIATELY got hit with a cease and desist from Saturday Night Live because it was a straight up rip-off of Chris Kattan's Mango character. The next week, he was renamed to "Kwee-Wee" to avoid the fruit name connection.
Probably acting like an immature baby again.
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Kwee-Wee was an absolutely horrible thing in all directions. So bad.
Mr. Enigma
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slightconfuse
Banned
according to Brandon Stroud, Eve is not renewing her contract and leaving. So Kaitlyn has a shot tonight.!!
Don't get my hopes up
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Deleted member 47027
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No shit. Bet she wants to take her MMA career in new directions.
slightconfuse
Banned
grain of salt but he seems pretty sure she wont be around for long.
wouldnt be suprise if her and her husband open a gym or if goes the WMMA route
sunflower said:
wouldnt be suprise if her and her husband open a gym or if goes the WMMA route
Eve isn't a model type, if she's leaving it's to go into MMA.
Now all we need is the same thing for AJ.
This record's getting old.
sf2fanatic
Member
True dat.
E: question. Does Wrestling in Japan still have the 20 count for ringout? only reason I say that is when I was watching the old mysterio/dragon match the ref was counting up to 20. Just curious
She wasn't even a wrestler for the first two years of her career. Sure, she turned out to be not all that bad in the ring in the end, but by no means was she ever a career wrestler.
slightconfuse
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following in the great steps of Dave "brass body" Batista!
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Need I remind you all that he is also UNDEFEATED
slightconfuse
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But Brock was UFC champ!!
Dolph ziggler ethering Trent
Dolph ziggler ethering Trent
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but Batista has a future. BRASS BODIE > Father Time
Nocturnowl
Member
If Eve left i'll admit to missing her unusually catchy entrance theme.
sf2fanatic
Member
Perspicacity
Banned
They already run a gym and she teaches women's MMA/self defense courses. It's a shame, I finally started to respect her and now she's leaving.
Nocturnowl
Member
My man, though considering how WWE handle women's themes they'll probably just give it to someone else, like how we couldn't escape Tiffany's awful theme as they gave it to Layla if I recall.
Never, I just appreciate appropiate theme music.
slightconfuse
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i dont have a problem with that. give it to paige!. its a really good theme
funkystudent
Member
So does this mean the Divas division will soon be 2 people?
But to be quite honest I already expected Kaitlyn to win the title. They love doing title changes on these kinds of shows.
Wouldn't at all be suprised if we saw Big Show vs. Del Rio rematch tonight with Ziggler cashing in tonight either.
Besides, I need that Kaitlyn vs. AJ feud already. Long overdue.
Wouldn't at all be suprised if we saw Big Show vs. Del Rio rematch tonight with Ziggler cashing in tonight either.
Besides, I need that Kaitlyn vs. AJ feud already. Long overdue.
Am I being a shameless misogynist, or just speaking the truth, if I admit that the entire concept of women's wrestling in the WWE is an utter waste of time? No one cares and I find so few of them to be talented performers.
Other than PR appearances and marketing, the fuck is the point of having it?
Other than PR appearances and marketing, the fuck is the point of having it?
Dave Meltzer
Banned
Kaitlyn vs AJ at WM will be a match for the ages.
WWE should just release all women who can't work as managers seeing as women's wrestling hasn't drawn in years and years.
WWE should just release all women who can't work as managers seeing as women's wrestling hasn't drawn in years and years.
Lambda Pie
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haha, Kanyon always took the Spear like a champ:
http://youtu.be/i6JwNcSYigs?t=1m41s
http://youtu.be/uY75L4Uv_5Q?t=8m15s
Mr. Luchador
Member
It's Adrian Neville week!
Damn he's beefed up!
Nocturnowl
Member
A wise choice.
Well the diva division tends to function with 4 divas total, 2 to fight each other over the divas titles and another 2 waiting in the wings as a possible next challenger but in the meantime are tag match fodder.
Any other female is just a valet for like the Great Khali or something regardless of in ring ability.
They might be able to get away with 2 if they trim that game plan a little.
To answer Cagey, The concept of women's wrestling is fine, it can be great fun, it's just the WWE have no desire to let the divas put on actual wrestling matches so for them it really is pretty pointless, actually not quite pointless, toilet breaks are important enough.
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ziggler on fire today.
WWE stopped gcare about the womens divison once trish and lita left. also didnt help they signed a buch of models. if they were able to keep karma and put her in a rotation with beth and nattie things would have looked up.
But Corprate H seems to be giving them the proper time with a slow build.